Contexts in which the word vote was used in the Senate during the 1970s
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The Australian Democratic Labor Party realises that we have no alternative but to vote for the Bill. [More…]
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As I see the situation, there will be a vote. [More…]
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If the Government resists the motion and wins the vote Senator Keeffe will be entitled to say: That is that. [More…]
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On the other hand, if the Government loses the vote the papers will be incorporated. [More…]
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J therefore think that a vote is a simple and quick way to get a result. [More…]
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I think the simple solution is to request that a vote be taken. [More…]
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My Party would not be able to vote for the amendment as it stands. [More…]
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We will discuss them together, and at the end of the discussion we will vote upon them in a reasonable way in order to determine what is the view of the Senate upon the various proposals that might be made. [More…]
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I suggest that the question be now put to a vote. [More…]
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I think that a vote should be taken and that that will resolve the question. [More…]
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We suggest that the logical thing for the Committee to do is to vote on the amendments. [More…]
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I think that the best way to deal with this is to put it to the vote now. [More…]
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Otherwise whatever is to be done might more sensibly be done by putting the matter to a vote, so long as we can proceed slowly and carefully to be sure of what we are doing in this procedure. [More…]
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When a vote was taken on this matter the required majority was not obtained and so the Minister did not proceed with a renewal of the stabilisation scheme.I will seek further detailed information and let the honourable senator have it at a later date. [More…]
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that the committee elect as chairman one of the members appointed by the Leader of the Government in the Senate; that the chairman of the committee may, from time to time, appoint another member of the committee to be the deputy-chairma’n of the committee, and that the member so appointed act as chairman of the committee at any time when the chairman is not present at a meeting of the committee; that in the event of an equality of voting the chairman, or the deputy-chairman when acting as chairman, have a casting vote; [More…]
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The Commonwealth Parliament is invoked in this respect simply because we make a vote of $27m available over a triennium for library assistance to the high schools, and that is supposed to involve the Commonwealth Minister in responsibility for this internal difference apparently between Mr Smith and, perhaps, Miss Smith - I did not catch her name. [More…]
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I suggest that we have a cognate debate on all the Bills, which are inter-related and one vote at the second reading stage. [More…]
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I ask that the Senate vote against the amendment. [More…]
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If the amendment is carried then I think we should vote for the motion as amended. [More…]
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If the amendment is not carried I ask that the Senate vote for the motion. [More…]
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1 was undecided as to which way to vote but after listening to that most hypocritical speech by Senator Davidson I have decided that there is only one way a man can vote. [More…]
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I will not go into the legal details and so on, but when we are informed that 2 members of the Committee who are both absent today are adamant that this regulation should be disallowed then ] will vote with the people who say that. [More…]
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The Australian Labor Party always votes with the Government against my Party. [More…]
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We often vote for you against the Government. [More…]
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We have moved the amendment and I suggest that the matter should now go to a vote. [More…]
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1 know how I intend to vote and as it is a matter for a free vote I believe that everyone in this chamber knows already how he intends to vote. [More…]
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What is the point of continuing to argue about a matter when honourable senators already know how they intend to vote? [More…]
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1 intend to vote No’ on notice of motion No. [More…]
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It is my privilege to vote as I choose, and it is the Minister’s privilege to vote as he chooses. [More…]
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There is supposed to be a free vote, so everyone in this chamber knows already how he will vote. [More…]
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So why not let us just sit down and vote on it? [More…]
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That will have the effect of bringing on tonight under General Business discussion of times of speaking etcetera in relation to which, by common consent, there is to be a free debate and a free vote by honourable senators. [More…]
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That the Chairman or the Deputy Chairman presiding at a meeting have a deliberative vote and, in the event of an equality of voting, also have a casting vote. [More…]
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He says that people who have this proposition in their platform ought to vote for it when it comes up on an occasion such as this. [More…]
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Why was it that when the proposition came up here a few minutes ago the Democratic Labor Party voted against it? [More…]
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Members of the DLP voted against that amendment because it was not a simple proposal for a joint select commitee. [More…]
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Members of the DLP voted against it not because it was a proposal for a joint select commitee but because they supported the Bill. [More…]
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They had to vote against the proposal because, in the case of Senator Willesee’s amendment, it was tacked on to a proposal to defeat the Bill. [More…]
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Whatever happens in regard to it, they still have their opportunities to speak against obnoxious sections of the Bill and to vote against them in the Committee stage. [More…]
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They could vote against the third reading if it came to the point. [More…]
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My friend asks: What is the use of the vote?’ [More…]
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If they vote as it has been suggested they will, they will be turning their backs on their own policy over a mere point which in itself has nothing in it. [More…]
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Mr Deputy President, is it competent for an honourable senator who has shares in an airline, whether it be a domestic or international airline, to vote on this motion unless he declares his holding? [More…]
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I think it would be preferable in the interests of the Senate if it were dealt with without the necessity for a further vote. [More…]
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2 and a vote on Order of the Day No. [More…]
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11 being taken immediately following the taking of a vote ofl Order of the Day No. [More…]
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That the House of Representatives be requested to amend the Second Schedule by reducing the vote - Division 310, Department of Housing, 56,314,000- by St - until a national inquiry is initiated to ascertain the nation’s housing needs in the future; to identify the shortcomings of the building industry so that they may be quickly removed; to establish beyond doubt the priorities which should be observed in the provision of funds for housing; to overcome interest and deposit problems; and to provide land and housing at low cost by means of appropriate agreement between the Commonwealth, the States and local government authorities. [More…]
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A motion is before the Chair at present seeking a reduction in the vote. [More…]
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I simply want to say that, in accordance with what we indicated earlier, we propose to vote against the third reading of this Appropriation Bill as an indication of our complete and utter rejection of the Budget. [More…]
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In the light of all the circumstances and in view of what has been said about the clause, and in particular because the amendment moved by the Opposition was rejected, the Opposition proposes to vote against this clause but will not divide the Committee. [More…]
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That will be the first vote to be taken. [More…]
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We will know our minds when we come to the vote. [More…]
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To be consistentI believe that two isthe adequate number and, therefore, I at any rate will vote against Senator Murphy’s amendment. [More…]
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The attitude of the Democratic Labor Party has been made quite clear and it will vote against the additional committee and vote forthe 2 committees. [More…]
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I ask the Leader of the Government in the Senate: Now that a new Government has been installed in the Parliament of the Commonwealth of Australia, will it consider the view originally expressed by vote of the majority of members of this Parliament and place the proposed new Parliament House on a site other than on Camp Hill? [More…]
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The total membership, the income, the amount of the political fund, the percentage of members who voted and the scrutiny of the vote are matters upon which I would wish the honourable senator to have accurate information. [More…]
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In view of the time factor I shall have to leave that matter and ask that a vote be taken on my proposal. [More…]
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Although the then Prime Minister said only last February that there would be a cut back in recruitment we have not had a cut back in the vote to which I am referring. [More…]
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I suggest that we put the matter to a vote. [More…]
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My colleagues and I will vote accordingly. [More…]
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At the end of the debate I suggest that the votes be taken separately on the Bills and any amendments that may be moved, and that after disposal of the Bills a simple vote be taken on the notice of motion. [More…]
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I did not ask for a vote to be taken. [More…]
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In other words there is a free vote by all Opposition senators on the various items. [More…]
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If the Attorney-General would care to modify his proposition to provide for 28th February I think we all would accept it without a vote. [More…]
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Senator Turnbull said that he would change his vote if it could be shown that an injustice would occur if the matter was not proceeded with. [More…]
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If we do not want to have a vote on this issue I suggest that we leave it until the March period when we are certain of no embarrassment in relation to the commencing date of the next session. [More…]
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that the inadequate defence vote reveals the Government’s failure to appreciate the deterioration in Australia’s strategic situation caused by recent world events including failure to provide the necessary supply and logistic support programme; [More…]
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Neither Senator Cant who moved the amendment nor Senator Willesee who seconded it voted to leave the words out 1 think this is important. [More…]
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I propose to vote against the amendment. [More…]
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Senator Sir KENNETH ANDERSONYes, a vote was taken and an assurance was given by Senator Wright, who was leading for the Government, that notwithstanding the vote that had been taken there was an obligation on the Committee to have another look at the matter on which the vote was taken. [More…]
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Chairman, before the debate proceeds any further could we reach agreement on whether to deal with the 3 propositions separately and put them to a vote separately? [More…]
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The second recommendation, which relates to cutting down the time limit for the supporting or other than introductory speakers to 10 minutes, should be put to a vote separately. [More…]
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This is a most interesting debate, and interest is heightened when one speculates on what the result would be if Senator Murphy’s motion was ever put to a vote. [More…]
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I felt that the debate was a good one and I had hoped that the vote on the second reading or third reading of the Bill would have been taken. [More…]
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I would suggest that the matter be put to a vote. [More…]
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I merely repeat what I said at the beginning: My party will vote for the clauses as they stand. [More…]
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We could deal with that separately by vote. [More…]
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I indicate that the members of the Democratic Labor Party will vote for the Bill as it stands. [More…]
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There being no requests, I declare the vote passed. [More…]
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There being no requests, I declare the vote passed. [More…]
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I am quite happy to accept the explanation given by the Minister for Civil Aviation (Senator Cotton) provided that I am not told when I come to the estimates for the Department of Air that the vote has already been passed under the Department of the Interior. [More…]
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In particular, what is proposed to be done about those 18-year-olds who are already entitled to vote in the elections which take place in South Australia and Western Australia? [More…]
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the Government did everything he could to carry out the understandings he came to with me but if the attitude of those inthe Government Party is not to bring this measure to a vote I regardtheir conduct as dishonourable. [More…]
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However, a vote can be taken separately on each Bill. [More…]
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in reply - Since there is no opposition to the Bill, I suggest we vote on it. [More…]
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-I thank the Senate for the attention it has paid to this matter which has been thoroughly debated.I suggest, Mr Deputy President, that the matter now proceed to a vote. [More…]
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Does the Minister agree that all citizens of the Commonwealth over the age of 21 years should be afforded a vote in the Federal elections? [More…]
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In fact, it seems distinctly odd to me that, in a partnership which may consist of a husband, wife and 2 or 3 children running a farm which has 200 hives of bees on it, each of those partners would be entitled to a vote. [More…]
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In effect, the owner of 40 or 50 hives in that partnership would have a vote, yet an individual owner of 40 or 50 hives does not have a vote. [More…]
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I wonder whether the Minister could explain to me the various classes of people who may be given a vote where 200 hives are held on one property. [More…]
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Where 200 hives are owned by a company, by a private individual or a partnership will the Minister instance who receives a vote? [More…]
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If a company holds 200 or more hives, it is entitled to one vote; the shareholders in that company do not receive votes. [More…]
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If the hives are held by a partnership, each partner in that partnership is deemed to have a vote because each partner is deemed to be the owner of those hives. [More…]
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The leaflets list some 30 overseas places at which assistant returning officers are located, to whom an application for a postal vote may be made. [More…]
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Is the AttorneyGeneral aware that members of the Queensland Police Union are now conducting a ballot to decide whether they will proceed with a vote of no confidence in the Queensland Country Party-Liberal coalition Government and also in the Police Commissioner in relation to their attitudes towards demonstrations? [More…]
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Does not the vote indicate criticism of the Queensland Government in this matter? [More…]
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First of all, as far as the Opposition is concerned the vote on this matter will be a free vote, not a vote on party lines. [More…]
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We will vote against the motion. [More…]
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In those circumstances, unless it is the wish of the Committee to put the matter to a vote now, I think I should move that the question be put. [More…]
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Therefore I ask them to vote accordingly. [More…]
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We think that this is a valuable suggestion and for that reason we shall vote for the amendment. [More…]
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The total expenditure for aircraft purchases in the Air vote for 1972-73 is estimated at $62.8m. [More…]
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If the Government refuses to have such an inquiry and if some honourable senators vote against such an inquiry, this will mean that the Government is not willing to respond to the complaints made by the Government of Yugoslavia. [More…]
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ls it the wish of the Senate to have a cognate debate on these Bills but to vote separately on them? [More…]
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I support this Bill because I believe that sooner or later the Parliament will be placed in the position where it will have to legislate for 18-year-olds to be given the right to vote. [More…]
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Not only would I like to see a vote for the 18-year-olds, I would like to see also a vote tonight on this measure I feel that a lot has already been said in support of the Bill and nothing substantive has been said against it. [More…]
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I would like to see the Bill proceed to a vote as soon as possible. [More…]
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Senator 0’Byrne has indicated that he would like to see a vote this evening. [More…]
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In view of the latter remarks by Senator Withers, but in any event because of the importance of bringing this matter to a determination, the Opposition proposes to oppose the adjournment motion in order that the debate may proceed to a vote and that the Senate may proceed to the disposition of this matter. [More…]
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We think that we are entitled to a vote on this matter. [More…]
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There is a feeling that there are endeavours in certain quarters to prevent the matter coming to a vote. [More…]
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As I understand the position, there is not a great deal more debate to take place on the matter and we could almost certainly get to a vote this evening within a reasonable time. [More…]
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In fairness to Senator Negus I indicated the Government’s point of view which is that we could not support the amendments and that in all the circumstances he might prefer the amendments not to go to a vote. [More…]
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There being no requests, I declare the vote passed. [More…]
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In order to reinforce our opposition to the inclusion in the Schedule of any excise on wine, even though limited, we will vote against the motion on the voices only. [More…]
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We are dealing with Document A and Document B, but we will have to take a separate vote on Document B afterwards. [More…]
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If they do not, I would simply ask that the question be put to the vote. [More…]
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The Australian Labor Party has no heartaches or no fears about how the vote will go in this chamber. [More…]
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As I recall the situation, there was a motion before the conference which resulted in a tied vote. [More…]
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I think under our rules that if there is a tied vote the question is resolved in the negative. [More…]
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Honourable senators on this side will not vote for the amendment. [More…]
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It appears that this afternoon and this evening a filibuster has been developing on the part of Government senators to prevent this debate coming to a vote this evening. [More…]
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They know we want to get to a vote and therefore I suggest, Mr Acting Deputy President, that you put the question to a vote. [More…]
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I would not expect that a vote would be taken on the Bill tonight because many honourable senators have very strong views for and against Senator Kane’s Bill which seeks to repeal the Estate Duty (Assessment) Act. [More…]
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So, I will vote so that Government Business will be proceeded with. [More…]
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I voted against the gag at that time because of the situation that had arisen. [More…]
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Accordingly, with the hope that Government supporters will not require a division on this, but that we will all get down to the simple issue and vote upon it, I move: [More…]
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As it is now some months since the Minister announced that there would be a referendum of wool growers to determine the question of the merino ram embargo, will he inform the Senate what steps have been taken to conduct the referendum and who will be eligible to vote? [More…]
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That so much of the Standing Orders be suspended as would prevent the moving of a motion forthwith for (a) the rescission of the vote of the Senate on Thursday, 10th May 1973, negativing the question for the appointment of a select committee on civil rights of migrant Australians and such motion of rescission being carried by a simple majority of the senators voting; and (b) the order of the day for the consideration of the proposed select committee being restored to the notice paper and the question for the appointment of the select committee, as finally put by the President on 10th May, being again put immediately to the Senate by the President and voted upon without further debate. [More…]
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I merely indicate that we will vote against the rescission because obviously we know what the rescission is all about. [More…]
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So, Mr Deputy President, the Government will vote against the rescission. [More…]
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It is quite clear that no argument will prevail to change honourable senators’ minds on this subject, so the sooner the vote is taken the better. [More…]
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the vote of the Senate of Thursday, 1 0th May 1973, negativing the question for the appointment of a Select Committee on Civil Rights of Migrant Australians be rescinded and [More…]
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The reason for seeking the rescission of the Senate’s vote of last Thursday negativing the question for the appointment of a select committee on civil rights of migrants in Australia is that we believe the vote recorded last week did not accurately reflect the Senate’s will. [More…]
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Any vote taken in this chamber must truly reflect the voting intentions of honourable senators in this chamber. [More…]
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The vote recorded must mirror the Senate’s opinion. [More…]
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No decision which would mirror the Senate’s intentions should be circumvented by an action which contravenes a custom of the Senate and which enables a vote to be recorded which does not truly reflect the Senate’s intentions. [More…]
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-It must seem very peculiar to people overseas that in Australia one Party can receive more votes than another Party and yet obtain fewer seats. [More…]
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For a long time the Australian Labor Party has said that each person should have one vote and that each vote should have the same value, but the Opposition parties in this place resist the introduction of such a voting system. [More…]
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In view of the ludicrous situation that has been exposed again by the results of the Victorian State elections, where the Victorian Liberal Government had 46 members elected to the State Parliament by 42 per cent of the vote, whereas 42 per cent of voters supporting the Australian Labor Party enabled that Party to obtain only 18 or 19 seats, will the Minister consider having a White Paper issued by the Commonwealth Electoral Office to point out the grave inequity of the Victorian Electoral distribution and so inform the people of Victoria and the rest of Australia of facts that the Australian Press has suppressed of a cynical, opportunistic, perversion of democratic electoral justice? [More…]
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I suggest that we proceed to a vote at the Committee stage. [More…]
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Some 75 per cent of the wool brokers, merchants, commission agents, export agents, woolclassing organisations and sellers of wool by tender who were contacted have provided data to prepare a Roll of persons, in excess of 110,000 eligible to vote in the Referendum. [More…]
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Yes; the date of the poll depends importantly on the response to requests for data to construct an accurate and complete Roll of persons eligible to vote. [More…]
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>(3) A statement has been prepared by the Department, explaining the questions to be decided at the Poll, the principal substantive issues raised by those who support opposing views on the questions, and the eligibility of persons to vote. [More…]
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The Opposition does not intend to vote against the Bill. [More…]
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In view of the decision resulting from the last vote, which indicated the lack of wisdom of the majority of the Committee- [More…]
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I suggest that the matter be put to the vote. [More…]
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The subject of voting rights may not have anything to do with this Bill, but I think the public of Australia, particularly the British people in Australia who hitherto have had certain privileges, ought to be alerted to the fact that if this Bill ever becomes law, unless someone makes very strong action against the present anti-British Government, British people in Australia will not have the right to vote for at least 3 years. [More…]
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Whilst appreciating the point which Senator Murphy has made, the contrast becomes so much the greater when it is realised that a person may not become an Australian citizen, even though he be a British subject, until 3 years of residence in Australia have elapsed, yet he may vote after being in Australia for 6 months. [More…]
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The result of this measure will be that a British subject cannot become an Australian citizen until the lapse of 3 years but he may, as a British subject, enrol and vote in this country after 6 months. [More…]
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We vote on a question of principle, not on personal issues. [More…]
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In view of the automatic result of the vote the Committee insists on its original amendment standing. [More…]
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Senator DOUGLAS McCLELLANDBecause the Government regards the matter as one of urgency, because it does not wish to have to wait at least another 3 weeks to have a vote on the Bill and because all honourable senators are in their places at present, we believe that standing order 242 should be suspended. [More…]
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It has been indicated already that the Australian Democratic Labor Party will vote against any proposal in this legislation to increase postal charges. [More…]
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But, if something has been arrived at which has eliminated what was serious confusion in regard to this legislation, surely people such as myself who are so rarely involved in deals- I repeat ‘without an adjective’- should be told exactly what the situation is before we are called on to vote on the motion for the second reading of these Bills. [More…]
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I want to take up one minute and say that because of the anti-rural bias contained in this measure, of which I am convinced, I propose to vote against this Bill. [More…]
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I refused to vote for the adjournment of the debate when I realised that the proponents resisted it. [More…]
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I believe that members of both Houses have a free vote on this question. [More…]
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The ACTING DEPUTY PRESIDENT- The question is that so much of the Standing Orders be suspended as would allow a vote to be taken on this matter. [More…]
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I think that the Senate could now proceed to vote on the second reading of these Bills. [More…]
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I ask the Minister for Aboriginal Affairs whether many Aborigines entitled to vote have not enrolled for the National Aboriginal Consultative Committee elections. [More…]
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I suggest that the vote be taken on the voices. [More…]
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The House of Representatives transmits to the Senate a Bill intituled ‘A Bill for an Act to facilitate alterations to the Constitution and to allow Electors in Territories, as well as Electors in the States, to vote at Referendums on Proposed Laws to alter the Constitution’, in which it desires the concurrence of the Senate. [More…]
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For that reason we will vote against the second reading of the Bill. [More…]
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I suggest that we proceed to a vote. [More…]
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I would respectfully suggest that if no one else wants to intervene we put the matter to a vote. [More…]
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There being no requests, I declare the vote passed. [More…]
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The long title will read, if the amendment is carried, ‘to allow Electors in Territories, as well as Electors in the States, to vote at Referendums on Proposed Laws to alter the Constitution.’ [More…]
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To facilitate alterations to the Constitution and to allow Electors in Territories, as well as Electors in the States, to vote at Referendums on Proposed Laws to alter the Constitution. [More…]
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It can go to a vote. [More…]
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I suggest that the question be now put to a vote. [More…]
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It induced the people of Australia on what, according to the opinion polls, is regarded by most people as the most important single issue, to vote by what has now turned out to be a falsehood. [More…]
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There being no objection, the bills will be debated together and a separate vote taken. [More…]
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In those circumstances, I hope that the people of Australia will treat those (questions in the correct way and vote No, No. [More…]
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I suggest that if there is to be a vote on this matter it is a simple amendment and ought to be dealt with by way of such amendment and not by the absurd process of moving to leave out some words and to insert other words. [More…]
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Once that is out of the way, the vote on that can be taken, and the individual amendments which Senator Douglas McClelland now proposes can be dealt with. [More…]
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To save the time of the Senate we will allow the vote to be taken on the voices with it being clearly understood that what is being proposed by Senator Byrne is against the wishes of the Government. [More…]
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The Government has pointed out that a timetable has to be observed if the people of Australia are to be allowed to vote on this measure and that this and the other relevant Bills will need to be passed this week. [More…]
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This is the Bill we are discussing and will vote on, is it not? [More…]
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The right of every Australian citizen to vote at a National Referendum or Senate or Federal Elections for the retention of our present Australian Flag and equally of our national anthem, ‘God Save The Queen’, before any government or other body can attempt to substitute either a new flag or anthem, and a similar voting right for the choice of any official National Song to play on international occasions. [More…]
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If carried, it will give effect to the proposition which I was arguing at the second reading stage, namely, that a proposal would be submitted to the people to allow the people of the Australian Capital Territory and the Northern Territory to vote in referenda. [More…]
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It would not submit the question in respect of voting majorities, to reduce the number of States required for an affirmative vote from four to three. [More…]
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I therefore ask the Senate to put the measure to the vote. [More…]
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I indicate that before the 2 hours are up we would want a vote upon the question. [More…]
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Therefore your Petitioners most humbly pray that the Senate, in Parliament assembled, will take the most urgent steps to ensure the right of every Australian elector to have a vote at a National Referendum, Senate of Federal Elections for the retention of the present National Anthem ‘God Save The Queen ‘, before the Commonwealth Government attempts to substitute a new Anthem. [More…]
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I will not vote to help keep the Government in power at a time when it is not necessary to have a redistribution. [More…]
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Therefore, I will vote against the Bill. [More…]
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The Senate then adjourned debate by vote on division until after 1 August 1973. [More…]
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I can only make this protest and say that, whilst I am not indicating that there will be any vote against this motion, if the ordinary proprieties of the Senate are to be oberved there ought to be communication between the parties on occasions such as this. [More…]
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I do not think that this chamber has ever got into such a state of excitement that when a report came down at 8 o’clock one night we wished to rush in to have a vote at 10 a.m. on the next day. [More…]
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I know that they do odd things in the other place, but this chamber has always operated on the basis that senators ought to have an opportunity to study thoroughly the reports presented to them, to consult their colleagues and to come to a proper decision when they vote. [More…]
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I do not want to speak for long but as we have to vote on this motion I thought I might express a point of view. [More…]
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I propose to move an amendment so that on Tuesdays we will commence at 1 1 a.m., instead of 10.30 a.m. We are not opposed to the suggested sitting times for Wednesday and Thursday, but we will vote against sitting on Friday. [More…]
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In that case I suggest that we deal with Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday in one motion and then deal separately with the proposed sitting time for Friday because we will vote against sitting on Friday. [More…]
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We will vote against sitting on Friday. [More…]
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I believe the clause should stand as printed and that we should proceed to vote on it. [More…]
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The Joint Sitting will now proceed to deliberate and vote upon each of the 6 proposed laws named in the Proclamation by His Excellency the Governor-General, dated 30 July 1974, which has been read by the Clerk. [More…]
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Now therefore I, Sir John Robert Kerr, the GovernorGeneral of Australia, do by this my Proclamation convene a joint sitting of the members of the Senate and of the House of Representatives, to commence in the House of Representatives Chamber at Parliament House, Canberra at 10.30 o’clock in the morning on 6 August 1974, at which they may deliberate and shall vote together upon each of the said proposed laws as last proposed by the House of Representatives. [More…]
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So that that final paragraph might penetrate the intellect of the honourable member for Mackellar let me repeat it slowly: at which they may deliberate and shall vote together upon each of the said proposed laws as last proposed by the House of Representatives. [More…]
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For the motion to be successful, should there be a division 31 senators would have to vote for the suspension of Standing Orders. [More…]
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1 ) Are Australian citizens on the Cocos (Keeling) Islands entitled to vote at Federal elections: if not, why not. [More…]
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If the answers to (1 ) and (2) are in the negative, what steps are being taken to rectify this matter so that all Australian citizens in all Australian territories are able to vote at Federal elections. [More…]
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I had not declared the result of the vote. [More…]
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They do not have a vote. [More…]
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When you have put the question, Mr Chairman, if you declare that the vote is against the Government we will not call for a division on it. [More…]
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It seems to me that the whole argument hinges on whether a senator who has attracted 0.94 per cent of the vote ought to be recognised and given a position on the delegation to this Convention. [More…]
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I hope that when we come to debate the Bills- I take it he is not opposed to them, as we are not opposed to them- he will not engage in narrow, miserable, party political propaganda for a party which could not obtain 0.9 per cent of the vote in the whole of Australia. [More…]
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That is the essence of what has been said and I suggest we put it to the vote. [More…]
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I suggest that a vote on this amendment would be consequential upon the determination of those amendments, as proposed by Senator Guilfoyle. [More…]
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I think it should be made clear in the minds of honourable senators before they vote that this amendment would substitute Camp Hill for Capital Hill. [More…]
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A forged petition was put up by the white man’s vote in order to let the Townsville City Council take over at that time. [More…]
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I ) Did Australia vote in favour, vote against or abstain on the passing by the General Assembly of the United [More…]
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) What was the reason for the vote cast by Australia. [More…]
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In view of recent Press statements, would you consider the possibility of installing a bed of hot coals on the Opposition side of the chamber to enable Opposition senators to reaffirm their loyalty to their Leader, Mr Snedden, on each occasion they enter the chamber to vote on a division? [More…]
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Your petitioners most humbly pray that the Senate in Parliament assembled should vote against the Bill in its present form, allow public consideration of amendments and then vote to so amend the Bill asto strengthen and support marriage and the family in a manner acceptable to the people of Australia. [More…]
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I have done my best to put them in a form in which they can be considered, debated and voted on by the Senate. [More…]
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I am aware that there have been subtle, and not so subtle efforts to prevent this Bill from being voted on by the Parliament this year. [More…]
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As there is so little time available, I think that I should ask the Senate to vote upon Senator Sir Kenneth Anderson’s proposal and upon the motion for the second reading of the Bill. [More…]
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In considering the amendment here I think that it may unnecessarily stultify us, and I propose to vote against it. [More…]
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With respect to the proposition that Senator Baume has put- he has indicated that he would regard this as the precursor- I suggest that we should vote on the matter as soon as we can. [More…]
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In view of what is so often said about the present electoral system one thing which continually seems to be overlooked is that our present system has returned to government the party or parties which have obtained a majority of the vote at any election. [More…]
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What this table shows is that between 1949 and 1974 the party which obtained the majority of the primary votes, except for one year, 1954, obtained the majority of seats. [More…]
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As there is no opposition to and no criticism of the legislation, I think that it should now be put to the vote. [More…]
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-I will add briefly to what Senator Cavanagh had to say because I had a similar experience brought to my notice during the recent Federal election campaign when the Premier of Queensland sent a telegram to the chairman of the various councils on the islands in Torres Strait directing them how to vote in the Federal election.’ [More…]
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It is apparently the position of the Opposition now that there is some uncertainty as to how the Opposition will vote at the Committee stage on both the Government’s amendments and Senator Missen ‘s amendment. [More…]
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I think that the proper course for us to adopt would be to take a vote on the second reading, move to the Committee stage and then we can determine what action we should take at that stage. [More…]
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-I believe I owe it to the Senate and certainly to those of my colleagues on this side to indicate that on the occasion of the first vote I was in my office throughout. [More…]
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I can recall on past occasions since I came to this place similar circumstances and an opportunity was given then for a further vote. [More…]
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We, as the then Opposition, accorded to Senator Davidson an acceptance of the explanation which he made to the House and again submitted the measure to the vote. [More…]
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I ask leave of the Senate to make a personal explanation in relation to the original vote. [More…]
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We would prefer the amendment not to be passed and we shall vote against it. [More…]
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Therefore we shall vote against the motion that has been moved by the Leader of the Government Senate, Senator Murphy. [More…]
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I suggest that we put this matter to the vote. [More…]
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We will take the vote on them together. [More…]
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Is the Minister for Agriculture aware that the vote of the Australian commissioner at the 1974 International Whaling Commission meeting is recorded as ‘yes’ on a vote to set the Antarctic Sei/Bryde’s whales quota at 4500 with 3 area divisions and that the vote was lost in favour of one to set the said quota at 4000 for which the Australian commissioner also voted ‘yes’? [More…]
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That vote will be so recorded. [More…]
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I ask the Senate to proceed to the vote and to carry this motion. [More…]
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The Opposition has now decided to vote against both subclause (b) and sub-clause (c) so that the deposits for nomination would remain as they are at present. [More…]
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The Opposition eventually may ask for this clause to be divided so that it can vote against the definition of ‘Political party’. [More…]
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by inserting in sub-section ( 1 ), after the words ‘each postal vote certificate’, the words ‘, other than a certificate referred to in sub-section ( 1a),’; and [More…]
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by inserting after sub-section (1) the following subsection: (lA) The Divisional Returning Officer shall mark each postal vote certificate issued under section 88a in the manner prescribed. [More…]
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The Opposition amendment proposes that instead of the form of application for a postal vote to be used at an election being in accordance with a form issued under the authority of the Chief Electoral Officer and specified by him by notice in the Gazette, there should be a form of a colour specified by him by notice in the Gazette. [More…]
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In support of that I say that there has been a lot of talk about encouraging people to vote. [More…]
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The Opposition’s amendment numbered 43 on the list proposes to leave out of the proposed Senate ballot paper, Form E, the directions to the voter which are appropriate to optional preferential voting for a Senate election and to reinsert directions for full preferential marking. [More…]
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The Government will vote to have it retained but will not divide the Committee. [More…]
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Mark your vote on this ballot-paper by placing the numbers ( here insert 1, 2, and so on, as the case requires) in the squares immediately to the left of the names . [More…]
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Mark your vote on this ballot paper by placing the numbers … in the squares respectively opposite the names of the candidates. [More…]
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That has been classed as a formal vote. [More…]
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So I think there will be a few more informal votes if this amendment is insisted upon in those words. [More…]
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In respect of people who may be in hospital, it should be borne in mind that if they are taken out for the day they can vote at any time up to 8 o’clock somewhere else, but if they are in hospital on polling day under this clause they may vote only up to 6 p.m. [More…]
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He said that if the Government’s amendment were carried it would cause confusion in the States and that in the States a vote has to be cast for every candidate on the ballot paper. [More…]
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Under that system a vote is cast for the number of candidates required. [More…]
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A person may vote for all candidates if he wishes but to cast a formal vote it is only necessary to vote for the number required. [More…]
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The Government’s intention was to have the words your vote must be made by placing consecutive numbers’, whereas I have just lifted the words mark your vote on this ballot paper’ out of the principal Act. [More…]
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I should like to draw to the attention of Senator Greenwood that if clauses 28 and 29, against which the Opposition proposes to vote, are deleted, as would appear probable, he should look at whether clause 27 at least in its present form should survive in the Bill. [More…]
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I am impressed by Senator Everett’s explanation and will vote accordingly. [More…]
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In view of those circumstances, and to maintain the equity which I think should be applied, I intend to vote for the amendment. [More…]
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I suggest that we proceed to a vote forthwith. [More…]
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-by leave-Mr President, by arrangement between the Whips in the Senate, Senator Rae will not vote in divisions this day to compensate for the vacancy caused by the death of Senator Milliner. [More…]
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-by leave-Mr President, by arrangement between the Whips in the Senate, Senator Rae will not vote in divisions this day to compensate for the vacancy caused by the death of Senator Milliner. [More…]
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-by leave-By arrangement between the Whips in the Senate, Senator Webster will not vote in divisions this day to compensate for the vacancy caused by the death of Senator Milliner. [More…]
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I have not asked the Government to recommit the vote on the Bill for a fresh division, as has been done on similar occasions in the past, as the result was not affected by Senator Rae’s absence for the division. [More…]
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By arrangement between the Whips of the Senate, Senator Laucke did not vote in the division this day, to compensate for the vacancy caused by the death of Senator Milliner. [More…]
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In the circumstances, the Government does not propose to vote against the proposition that the regulation be disallowed. [More…]
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His colleagues in another place, and most of his colleagues here, while lamenting these additions to the charges of the Authority are prepared to vote for them. [More…]
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Of course, he is entitled to exert his ultimate right and vote against the Bill. [More…]
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I suggest to Senator Withers that we have a cognate second reading debate on the Electoral Re-distribution Bills and that we vote separately on each of the Bills at the end of the second reading debate. [More…]
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They must be voted on separately. [More…]
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The only way of escaping this procedure is by special vote of the Senate. [More…]
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Separate records must be kept of each vote. [More…]
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Further, for the purpose of getting the vote on record by bringing about a division, in the final analysis I do not think that it makes any difference who calls for a division. [More…]
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Is not the Prime Minister’s statement a complete revelation of his undemocratic defiance of any vote of the people? [More…]
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Is it not important for the future of democracy in this country that a clear vote of the people should be secured to see - [More…]
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The basic and fundamental issue which we in the Opposition are asserting and will continue to assert is whether the people of Australia, in a democracy, shall have the right to vote. [More…]
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In the event of an equality of voting, the Chairman, or the Deputy-Chairman when acting as Chairman, shall have a casting vote. [More…]
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The shareholding of the Group is held 5 1 per cent by the Dairy Farm Group m Hong Kong and 49 per cent by the Lavery family which holds a casting vote on the directorate. [More…]
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They are going to vote against it. [More…]
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, (3) and (4) The invitation was originally extended by the previous Government and in accordance with the practice of successive Governments, the cost of the visit within Australia for the Vice-President, his wife and members of the official party will be met from the Government Hospitality Vote. [More…]
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The Opposition opposes this clause and will vote against it. [More…]
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The first is to encourage greater participation in elections in registered organisations by giving members a real opportunity to vote and by making it as easy as possible for members to vote. [More…]
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The second aim is to remove any deterrent to voting that might result from suspicion that elections conducted by the organisation are not, in fact, secret and that a vote against incumbent officials could result in victimisation. [More…]
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The answer to the question that I am about to ask the Minister will influence not only my vote but also, I believe, the attitude of a great many people outside this chamber, including a large number of members of trade union organisations. [More…]
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The Opposition will vote on these matters as I have indicated. [More…]
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I suggest that the matter now go to the vote. [More…]
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-As time does not permit me to discuss this Bill adequately in Committee I propose to vote against the whole of the Bill to register my objection to clause 97 to which I earlier referred. [More…]
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All discussions of motions of urgency which have been dealt with in this Senate since I have been here have been concluded by being brought to a vote in the only way possible, that is, by moving that the question be put. [More…]
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It is certainly my understanding of that conversation that I made it clear that the Government would be seeking to bring the matter to a vote and that of course could be done only by moving the gag. [More…]
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All the organisational work has been done in the Department of Health and by Medibank in anticipation of the vote in this place. [More…]
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Those are some of the reasons why I feel obliged to vote with the Opposition on these Bills. [More…]
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-by leave-By arrangement between the Whips in the Senate Senator James McClelland will not vote in divisions during the 3 sitting days this week to compensate for the vacancy caused by the death of Senator Greenwood. [More…]
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I say to honourable senators again that three of the last four speakers have spoken on a vote that is not included in this Division. [More…]
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Let us put the matter to a vote and see what the Liberal Party senators think about this question. [More…]
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If they are so undemocratic as to refuse Senator Mulvihill leave to incorporate his table in Hansard, let them express that in a vote. [More…]
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It is proposed that the Conciliation and Arbitration Act and Regulations be amended to enable, among other things, a speedy method of amalgamation of unions subject to its endorsement by a majority of members who vote in a plebiscite. [More…]
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Under the collegiate electoral system of voting do all officers of the college have to be elected by direct vote of the rank and file? [More…]
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-by leave- By agreement between the Whips in the Senate, Senator Coleman will not vote in divisions on sitting days this week to compensate for the vacancy caused by the death of Senator Greenwood. [More…]
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On that occasion I had reason to point out in this chamber that in some States many voters- this applies mainly to my own State- are deprived of any representation in local government because the Liberal Opposition in that State refuses to allow to be passed legislation which provides for adult franchise. [More…]
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The people in South Australia will be under some restriction, unlike a State such as Queensland where every person on the electoral roll has the right to stand for positions in local government or has the right to vote for a person who stands for a position in local government. [More…]
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-by leave- By arrangement between the Whips in the Senate, Senator Cavanagh will not vote in divisions this week to compensate for the vacancy caused by the death of Senator Greenwood. [More…]
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He could defer a vote on these 2 Bills until after dinner. [More…]
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-by leave- By arrangement between the Whips in the Senate, Senator Melzer will not vote in divisions today or tomorrow, to compensate for the vacancy caused by the death of Senator Greenwood. [More…]
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Basically the arguments for this are the same as I advanced for the previous amendment which was defeated in the last vote. [More…]
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Is it a fact that Mr Sparkes, with the authority of the National Party Executive and the knowledge of the Acting Premier of Queensland, told Mr Sinclair that National Party members would be advised to vote against the referenda proposals? [More…]
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However, I want to say this: If the gallup polls were showing that the Labor Party had 52 per cent of the popular vote in New South Wales I would oppose accepting any redistribution. [More…]
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I shudder to think, Senator Walters, of a no vote result. [More…]
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I rise merely to say that I support the view of those of my colleagues who oppose this legislation and to declare that I will be opposing the legislation when it comes to a vote. [More…]
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-The Opposition will not accept Senator Harradine ‘s motion and vote for it, the reasons being that we regard the motives behind the motion as suspect; the reasoning in support of it is untenable and absurd; we agree with the view expressed by Senator Durack that the people will have an appropriate opportunity to judge the issues involved. [More…]
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I thank him for bringing it forward in the Senate on what would be the last occasion the Senate will sit before the vote will be taken on a tune for a national song. [More…]
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I raise this question again under the vote for the Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet. [More…]
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If the Minister does not reply department by department it means that we have passed that vote and then no honourable senator will be able to again question the Minister if his answer is not satisfactory. [More…]
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I have quoted for the specific purpose not of winning any vote, which I know would be impossible here in the circumstances, but to give notice to the Minister for Education (Senator Carrick) and the Government that this matter is not going to rest easy in the future. [More…]
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However, under the standing order, in such a case the one honourable senator calling for a division may have his vote recorded in the journals if he so requests. [More…]
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Before I vote on this very important and controversial piece of legislation, the consideration of which was put off from last night until the dying hours of this session I would like to know the answers to those matters that were raised. [More…]
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-I think it was most heartening that when a secret ballot was ordered and taken there was such an overwhelming vote to return to work on the State Bank site. [More…]
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At the State Bank office block- this is where there was the vote to return to work- there is a peak employment figure of 1,150 for this $50m project and that has been idle for 1 1 weeks. [More…]
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Is the Minister representing the Minister for Employment and Industrial Relations aware that builders labourers working on Melbourne’s $5 5m State Bank building project, and who have been on strike since 5 July, on Monday last voted by 44 votes to 16 to return to work? [More…]
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The vote was the result of a secret ballot ordered by Mr Justice Alley on 8 September. [More…]
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Is it a fact that some of the ministers of religion who now hypocritically state that they are not demonstrating for political purposes did issue a statement during the double dissolution election campaign asking people to vote for the Whitlam Labor Government. [More…]
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That leave be given to honourable senators to move motions expressing opinions or making recommendations based on the reports of the Estimates committees; that such motions be moved when the appropriate vote is under consideration; that where more than one motion is proposed in relation to a particular vote, the motions may be debated together but in all cases a motion or motions shall be disposed of before the question is put on the vote before the [More…]
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All I know is that it is not in the vote for the Australian Security Intelligence Organisation. [More…]
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In relation to the entitlement to vote, am I correct in saying that, in addition to the Governor-General, persons who cannot vote in federal elections and referenda are persons under 1 8 years of age, persons who are not Australian citizens, certain persons who are in prison or in mental institutions, and Antarctic expeditioners serving in the Australian Antarctic and sub-Antarctic bases? [More…]
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Is there any hope that early measures can be taken to ensure that those Australians serving this country in our Antarctic bases and who are not otherwise disenfranchised are given a vote at future elections and referenda? [More…]
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I might say as a postscript that this matter is a sore point with people serving in our Antarctic bases, who, like their New Zealand counterparts, believe that they ought to have an opportunity to vote at elections. [More…]
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Before I move that the debate be adjourned I should like to indicate that it had been the Government’s hope to proceed to a vote on each of these motions that the Senate take note of the reports. [More…]
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When the vote on the Bill is taken, I shall have no option but to support the amendment proposed by the Opposition- not that I have even been able to understand fully its ramificationsfor the simple reason that at least if it is adopted it will give honourable senators a little more time to understand the Bill itself. [More…]
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I draw to the attention of the Committee that when dealing with Standing Orders Committee reports we on the Government side of the chamber do not have a Whip; we have a free vote on any matter that arises. [More…]
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Standing Orders Committee report the interesting sight of myself and Senator Georges, the two Whips, being on one side of the chamber during the vote and our two leaders voting against us on the other side. [More…]
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No director shall be involved in the consideration of, or shall vote upon, any matter in which he has a direct or indirect interest. [More…]
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The overriding consideration that has come to me is that if we did vote for the second reading of this Bill we would be dishonouring our undertaking to the electorate during the election campaign that one of our functions would be to keep the Government honest to its promises. [More…]
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One of the main thrusts of this Bill is to be found in clauses 5 and 6 about which I will speak later and against which we will vote. [More…]
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In simple terms it would seem to me that if we voted with the Government on this Bill we would be virtually saying to the Government: ‘We know you have broken an overt promise to pensioners and we support you for it. ‘ [More…]
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I did not intend to rise again in this debate and would not have risen except for the remarks made by Senator Harradine in speaking to clause 6 when he said to me that if we have a vote in the bag we should keep it in the bag. [More…]
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If Senator Harradine and, likewise, Senator Townley really believe that this clause should be deleted from the Bill they will vote against it irrespective of what I or anybody else on this side of politics says. [More…]
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Some people on this side of the chamber have said that they would not vote with that dill even if they were paid to do it. [More…]
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Your petitioners therefore humbly pray that Honourable Senators should vote to: [More…]
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Your petitioners therefore humbly pray that Honourable Senators should vote to: [More…]
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Your petitions therefore humbly pray that Honourable Senators should vote to:- [More…]
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Did an article in the Sunday Sun, 1 October 1978, assert that Dr Win Fowles has been told that he would be taken to court unless he paid a $2 penalty for failing to cast his vote at the last election; if so, what action is now being taken in relation to Dr Fowles and his failure to cast a vote at the last Federal election: [More…]
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Your petitioners therefore humbly pray that Honourable Senators should vote to:- [More…]
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Your petitioners therefore humbly pray that Honourable Senators should vote to:- [More…]
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Your petitioners therefore humbly pray that Honourable Senators should vote to:- [More…]
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I suggest that we vote on the amendment. [More…]
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Your petitioners therefore humbly pray that Honourable Senators should vote to: [More…]
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Your petitioners therefore humbly pray that Honourable Senators should vote to:- [More…]
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Your petitioners therefore humbly pray that Honourable Senators should vote to: - [More…]
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-But we intend to vote against the adjournment also. [More…]
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To what budget vote or appropriation did Telecom charge the cost of this advertisement. [More…]
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The will of the people shall be the basis of the authority of government; this will shall be expressed in periodic and genuine elections which shall be by universal and equal suffrage and shall be held by secret vote or equivalent free voting procedures. ‘ [More…]
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Senators are elected periodically, by secret ballot, with universal franchise, and the quota-preferential method of proportional representation ensures that the vote values within states are equal as nearly as can be. [More…]
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We, the undersigned citizens of Australia, therefore humbly pray that the Senate will fulfil the pledge of a Member State of the United Nations and take steps to remove the compulsion from the Electoral Act in order to allow freedom of expression for everyone who has the right to vote for Senators. [More…]
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Before putting this question to the vote I wish to reply to a question directed to me by Senator Coleman on 2 1 March. [More…]
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Under what departmental vote were the expenditures of $250,000 and $146,841 made as payments to State railways in respect of the fitting-out and running costs of the Royal Silver Jubilee Exhibition Train, referred to in the Minister’s answer to Senate Question No. [More…]
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Does he have anything further to say on the amendment, or do we simply put it to a vote? [More…]
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Before we vote on this clause I think we should know the reason for it. [More…]
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That will be rectified in accordance with the vote cast. [More…]
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If they were told that, will the Minister table the appropriate document in this chamber before this Bill is put to the vote? [More…]
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Is the fact that a man is insisting on some safety provisions a reason to vote against him in an election? [More…]
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If this is so, I am very reluctant to vote for the expenditure of $ 1,800m without knowing how the money is to be spent other than that it will be spent on defence. [More…]
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I would not like it placed on record that I voted for a proposal that prevented a woman, with children, from continuing a de facto relationship. [More…]
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While I will be recorded in Hansard as having voted for the second reading, I hope that my protest will show that I did not vote for the third reading. [More…]
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To what budget vote or appropriation did Telecom charge the cost of the advertisements. [More…]
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Is the cost of the Prime Minister’s use of RAAF aircraft and personnel usually met from the Defence appropriations or is there a separate vote to cover these matters. [More…]
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He singled me out and said that I was directed by my party to vote on an issue which was before the Senate this morning. [More…]
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Despite what Senator Chipp said and unlike him, I have voted against my own Government on matters of conscience on a number of occasions in this place. [More…]
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Senator Chipp, as a member of the House of Representatives for many years, never once voted against his Government; and when he became a Minister again he never voted against his Government. [More…]
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There will be a separate vote. [More…]
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Both Senator Mason and I have been persuaded by Senator Evans to vote for the amendment. [More…]
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Does the estimate for salaries and payments in the nature of salary in the vote for the Joint House Department allow for additional staff to man the front entrance? [More…]
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Mr Chairman, will the Committee be taking a vote on Group A or can we come back to that later? [More…]
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I propose to have the vote taken on Group A before moving to Group B. [More…]
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The Department of Housing and Construction assures me that the program is right up to date as far as its obligations under this vote are concerned. [More…]
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I simply indicate that in view of the time and the way in which my colleagues on the other side of the chamber have openly indicated their attitude, the Opposition does not propose to push this matter to a vote, which we would otherwise have done. [More…]
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We believe that the programme for New Guinea should include a common roll for national legislative and local government elections with adult- suffrage for all resident citizens; a representative national legislature with single member constituencies; one vote one value and open candidature: and gradual elimintion of the right of veto by the Administrator and the GovernorGeneral over ordinances of the national legislature. [More…]
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As I said before, we make it quite clear that the DLP is prepared to vote for a 4-day sitting, but we feel that we ought to allow the other parties to canvass amongstthemselves. [More…]
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When the opportunity arises to give them more benefits, as it does in this place on every occasion when there are amendments to repatriation measures, those who now shed crocodile tears always vote against the improvements that the Opposition seeks to make. [More…]
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The Communist Party, as small as its vote was, was opposed to Australia’s participation in Vietnam. [More…]
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If we add the votes of the Labor Party, the Australia Party and the Communist Party we get a figure of 47.92%. [More…]
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That is a little over 1% less than the combined Liberal Party and Country Party votes. [More…]
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We have to add to that 47.92% the 2.73% which represents the votes of the other groups, which opposed the Government’s policies. [More…]
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We may disagree as to the actual figure, but this is generally accepted as the donkey vote. [More…]
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The Government was returned to office on the donkey vote. [More…]
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Yet every time there is a referendum the growers, knowing of the previous price collapses, still vote for the free auction system. [More…]
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He and his colleague, the lawyer from Tasmania - I do not mean the Minister - remind me of that famous poem written in 1916 about conscription, lt was entitled ‘The Blood Vote’. [More…]
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It is quite easy for them to vote for conscription of 20-year-olds - some of them, unfortunately, to bc killed. [More…]
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1 would vote tomorrow for a policy which provided that if we help people those people will have to come and help us when we need it. [More…]
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In spite of the attacks that Senator Georges made tonight - and this is where he earns my sympathy - he will probably vote in favour of the original motion tomorrow, unless he chooses to vote for our amendment. [More…]
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We will see how you vote and how I vote before we decide who agrees with the Government. [More…]
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Vote for the amendment and you will express your disagreement with the Government The fallacy of the turnover tax is highlighted when one refers to experts and not to simple people like myself who give a simple definition not only to the people here but also to the great number of Australians who happen to be listening and can well understand. [More…]
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I hope that the obvious objections of the Opposition and of my Party to the Government’s proposals contained in the Speech of the Governor-General will be supported and that the Senate will, by a majority vote, support the amendment moved by Senator McManus. [More…]
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After 20 years in Parliament I would say that if ever an ignorant vote was cast in this chamber it was the vote cast by members of the Opposition in an attempt to prohibit the export of merino rams. [More…]
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If 1 had been responsible for that vote cast in this chamber by members of the Opposition 1 would for ever after hold my peace on matters concerned with primary industry. [More…]
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Not once, but twice - at the second reading stage and at the third reading stage - members of the DLP crossed the floor to vote with the Government and to put the sales tax on the family man. [More…]
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If the amendment is defeated we will vote against that which has been put forward by the Democratic Labor Party because we consider it to be inadequate and inconsistent with the stand which the DLP has taken in supporting this Government. [More…]
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We will not tolerate the position when the DLP goes to the nation and supports the Government, asks people to vote the Government back into office, and then comes in here and tries to excuse itself by putting forward proposals which, if members of the DLP really believed in them, would have caused them to ask the nation to vote against the Government. [More…]
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Looking at the members of his Party - whether to see if the knives were coming in from the back, I do not know - scorning the members of the Australian Democratic Labor Party - the only people he knows who can help him defeat this Government for noone else will help him, his only hope for salvation, his only opportunity to get something of the Labor Party’s ideas into the statute book or to win a vote on a resolution or a motion - he immediately attacked the members of the DLP personally, not on policy but personally and on behaviour. [More…]
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Have the Commonwealth and State governments had any joint discussions concerning common legislation for the granting of a vote to 18-year-olds? [More…]
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In dealing with the placing of business, I wish to make the comment that it is proposed to bring the motion for the adoption of the AddressinReply to a vote. [More…]
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We will continue the debate until we reach a vote. [More…]
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It is in the interests of the good management of the Senate that we bring the Address-in-Reply debate to a vote today. [More…]
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The reason for this belief of course, is that the specialists attend the meetings and vote against matters of general practice. [More…]
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Somehow or other, because the Government thinks this is good vote catching and it might help electorally, and because of the Labor Party’s proposition, the Government supporters are prepared to endorse price fixing for doctors. [More…]
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We can imagine that when the vote is taken the Australian Labor Party will vote for the elimination of the words that we seek to insert in the motion. [More…]
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When the vole is taken, whatever the Party does - obviously it will vote against our amendment - I would expect Senator Cavanagh at least to support the proposition which he was so vocal in articulating in the course of his speech. [More…]
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In September 1952 the Republic of South Vietnam was denied admission to the United Nations by one vote - the veto of the Soviet Union. [More…]
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In December 1952 the General Assembly, with one vote in opposition agreed that South Vietnam should be admitted to the United Nations, and it asked the Security Council to take note of its decision. [More…]
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When a vote is to be taken on an important issue we never expect to receive the support of the DLP. [More…]
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However, I want to make it clear that the Government does not support the amendment moved by the Labor Party, the first amendment on which we will vote. [More…]
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If the amendment proposed by the Labor Party is not accepted, as I hope and believe will be the case, we will then vote on the amendment moved by the Democratic Labor Party. [More…]
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The Government will also vote against that amendment. [More…]
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1 repeat that the Government will vote ‘No’ on the Australian Labor Party’s amendment and, subject to that being negatived, we will vote ‘No’ on the Democratic Labor Party’s amendment. [More…]
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I would like a vote to be taken now if that is the will of the Senate. [More…]
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I am quite satisfied that many Country Party members would not have received the number of votes they did had the farmers known about the quota before the casting of the vote. [More…]
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We are called upon to vote entirely in the dark on matters affecting the wheat industry. [More…]
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They have consistently voted in the dark on measures affecting the wheat industry and they have accepted the situation in which they can be denied any information about how the wheat industry is run. [More…]
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He said: We cannot do anything because the farmers organisations would kick up a row and that would mean votes’. [More…]
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Votes were involved and the Government was quite prepared to tolerate a situation in which the wheat industry would get into a mess, as it has, because if the Government attempted to interfere at any time it might lose votes. [More…]
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He was led up the garden path by people in the Government who refused to provide any leadership and who were actuated only by one thing - the fear that if they opposed the people running the wheat industry they might lose votes In those circumstances I say we will vote for this measure, but in the future I hope we will get a little bit of leadership from the Government for the wheat industry. [More…]
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Since the time of self-government in Victoria the Aboriginal people there have been citizens of the State of Victoria and have been entitled to vote in Victorian elections. [More…]
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It seems to me that Senator Greenwood is now proposing that the Opposition should vote against the Bill. [More…]
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Although the Opposition will vote for the Bill it is not satisfied with the methods which are being used by the Government to enable urgent legislation to be passed. [More…]
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Although the Opposition will vote for the legislation it will insist that the legislation be reintroduced to the Parliament within 6 months so that the Parliament can assess what should be done in the light of Australian requirements and international standards. [More…]
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I believe that the Government has shown prudence and has acted swiftly in having before the Senate tonight a measure the merits of which the Opposition is not prepared to vote against. [More…]
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We certainly do not intend to vote against the Bill but we insist that we be given the right to study all the features of the legislation when this moment of crisis has passed. [More…]
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I believe my view of the legislation accords with the views of the other honourable senators who, knowing of the urgency of the matter and having a sense of responsibility to ensure that appropriate action is taken to deal with the present situation and any other situation which could arise in the future, are prepared to vote in favour of the legislation. [More…]
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As Senator Greenwood has said, the Opposition is not prepared to vote against the Bill because of the necessity to do something about tankers which are leaking oil in our northern waters at the present time. [More…]
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I am informed that in the other place the Minister for Shipping and Transport said that a member could introduce a private members motion to review the Bill and that he would be prepared to debate and vote on that motion. [More…]
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We will vote for both of these measures. [More…]
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It is well known that the Labor Party supports a policy of one vote, one value. [More…]
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As a result, the amount of the vote for the War Service Homes Division was increased to $55m, being an increase of $5m over the previous year. [More…]
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This trend was reversed in 1968-69 and the vote for 1969-70 was increased. [More…]
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The increase in the number coupled with the increase in the amount of loan has meant that at this stage of the year - on the 8th day of the 10th month of the financial year - there appears not to be any more money available from the vote made for war service homes loans. [More…]
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What Senator Murphy is really arguing in depth is that the procedures that we have had with the Regulations and Ordinances Committee over a lengthy period - ever since it was created - should be brushed aside and that when it moves to disallow we should proceed in the Senate almost automatically to a vote. [More…]
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Not having had a meeting today and having adjourned the debate for such a long period of time, as Chairman of the Committee I would not be prepared to vote that there be a postponement on this occasion. [More…]
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If the Senate makes up its mind that the payment of these allowances under the existing provision is illegal it can do nothing else but vote for disallowance of the regulation. [More…]
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We are prepared to vote for it and to vote for the amendments. [More…]
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They will have a secret vote without any tickets. [More…]
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They are elected by the normal democratic adult franchise method in a secret vote. [More…]
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The present militant group in the multi-racial council are denying the people in the Gazelle Peninsula the right to have a referendum conducted in a democratic manner, which would be by way of a secret vote. [More…]
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The militant group wants an open vote so that they can stand over the voters and make sure how people they know vote. [More…]
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I say clearly and unequivocally that the Government’s greatest fear is that a- radical party will command a majority of the vote in a future Territory Parliament. [More…]
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Before last week’s vote, the lobbyists pointed out that the bill would contradict the cherished Yankee tradition of local rule in every township. [More…]
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I ask: Has the attention of the Attorney-General been drawn to the report of a decision of a Melbourne metropolitan magistrate to the effect that a person who fails to vote at a general election but who claims that he has no preference to exercise is not guilty of failing to cast a vote? [More…]
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Is the decision consistent with the view of a voter’s obligation which was previously held by officers of the Attorney-General’s Department? [More…]
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In March 1968, when both the Labor Government and the LCL Opposition agreed that Chowilla should be built, instructions were given to the South Australian Commission Jo vote against the deferment of Chowilla so as to create a dispute which would allow the matter to be placed before arbitration. [More…]
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Now, the suggestion is that we should vote for the amendment which is put forward by the Labor Party as the ultimate solution, at the eleventh hour, to the whole problem. [More…]
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Nor do I think that we should vote for an amendment which will throw the whole issue into the melting pot and achieve nothing other than a postponement at the Federal level of something which 3 State governments are at this stage committed to through their representation. [More…]
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We feel that probably the worst thing that we can do on this question is to vote for the amendment We support one of the principles in the amendment - that which proposes the setting up of a national authority to negotiate with the States - but why should the people of South Australia have 10 wait for their water, probably for a further 5 years before something can be accomplished and a body set into operation to deal with this problem in South Australia and along the River Murray in particular? [More…]
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If a vote is taken on this legislation tonight, the Opposition will endeavour to ensure that whatever provisions are necessary to ensure that a dam is built at Chowilla are included in the legislation. [More…]
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I have said before that if you read the Agreement you will see that all sorts of reservations have been prescribed, and once you vote on them you provide the opportunity to the contracting governments - not only the South Australian Government but also those which are more concerned about their own areas - to change their minds about the project, and by that time you have given Chowilla away. [More…]
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Even though Senator Laucke may not bring himself to actually vote against his Government when the Australian Labor Party amendment is voted on the views that he put before the Senate tonight have left no doubt in our minds that as far as he is concerned the viewpoints expressed by Senator Drury, Senator Donald Cameron and Senator Bishop in this chamber tonight have substance and validity. [More…]
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I wonder what the position of New South Wales Labor senators will be on this measure when a vote is taken on it in this place. [More…]
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But how can the Labor Party possibly justify its association with this motley collection of no-hopers who have assembled to establish or set on foot this Moratorium, which is a miserable imitation of what has been already organised in the United States of America, and, having damaged its reputation, proceed to an election and ask the people to vote for it. [More…]
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Is it not our responsibility and our duty to see that their voice - the voice of those who cannot cry out by way of the ballot box because the Government will not give them the right to vote - is heard in opposition to their continual conscription in this war? [More…]
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The caption underneath said: ‘A vote for the Labor Parly is a vote for this.’ [More…]
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I am taking the opportunity to speak in this debate as a member of the Regulations and Ordinances Committee and at the invitation of the Leader of the Government in the Senate (Senator Anderson) to discuss this matter, lt has become obvious how the vote will go on the motion and further discussion may in that case seem unnecessary. [More…]
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I might say that on every occasion that I have had the opportunity to speak to representatives of the farming community I have assured them that my Party would co-operate in desirable short term measures and would vote for them at all times, in the interests of the rural community, because we realise that short term measures of a drastic nature are urgently required. [More…]
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The Government has to conscript 20-year-old boys who have no vote. [More…]
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In all the years 1 have been in this chamber I have refused to vote for the gag. [More…]
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Murphy to vote for the gag. [More…]
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By a vote of 37 to 16 the Wool Industry Conference advised on the floor scheme for wool selling, yet when a referendum was held the Conference’s advice was defeated overwhelmingly. [More…]
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Those producing 10 bales or more would be eligible to vote in such a referendum. [More…]
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I do not agree that there is not a democratic vote. [More…]
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If the honourable senator applied his line of reasoning to the vote of the federal executive of the Party to which he belongs, it could be claimed that that is not a democratic vote. [More…]
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Before the AWIC voted on the embargo it went to considerable pains to secure authoritative information and views on all aspects of the embargo. [More…]
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In the circumstances it is fair to say that the AWIC vote reflects the considered opinion of an adequate crosssection of growers. [More…]
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For instance, the question arises whether all wool growers should be entitled to vote - irrespective of the breed of sheep they raise - or whether entitlement be confined to those who produce only or principally merino wool. [More…]
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Let me remind my friends on the Government side that on two occasions to my knowledge there have been plebiscites of wool growers on certain issues and there was no difficulty in determining who among the wool growers should exercise a vote. [More…]
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The question of the export of merino rams was introduced into the Parliament for discussion, but no vote was taken. [More…]
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It is another matter altogether to raise the question of the introduction of a parliamentary vote for every action under the Customs (Prohibited Exports) Regulations. [More…]
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I believe that a vote should be taken on this issue tonight. [More…]
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At this stage I am not speaking for or against the proposal for a marketing authority which is now being considered by the industry, but the point I make is this: If the vote at the Conference is 70% in favour of a change in the wool marketing system - just as there was a 70% vote in favour of easing the ban on the export of merino rams - will the Labor Party oppose that decision? [More…]
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Great emphasis was put by the Opposition on the fact that the vote in favour of retaining the ban was 62 to 32. [More…]
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Last year I think the vote was about 70 to 17 in favour of retaining the ban, which is quite different from a vote of 62 to 32. [More…]
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This year the vote is about 2 to I in favour of retaining the ban whereas last year it was 4 or 5 to 1. [More…]
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Who would be given a vote? [More…]
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The Labor Party has not suggested who should vote. [More…]
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Would the fat lamb breeder be given a vote? [More…]
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Would the corriedale or polwarth breeder be given a vote? [More…]
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At present they are allowed to export their rams, so would they be given a vote on this vexed question? [More…]
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Would the man with 10 merino sheep be entitled to a vote? [More…]
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Perhaps be would be given a qualified vote. [More…]
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I think that Australian wool growers ars very concerned at this action, and this is the reason why perhaps those who originally were prepared to support the ban are now prepared to vote the other way. [More…]
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I propose to elaborate on some of the arguments that were put forward by Senator Laucke earlier in the debate to prove conclusively that the only reason why Senator Laucke will vote for the ratification of the agreement and against the Labor Party’s proposed amendments, especially those which will be put forward in the Committee stage, is because of a sense of party loyalty and most certainly not because of his beliefs as he expressed them in his contribution to the debate. [More…]
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For my part I see that at least some of the difficulties which led to the establishment of that Committee by the unanimous vote of both Houses still persist. [More…]
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In March 1968, when both the Labor Government and the LCL Opposition agreed that Chowilla should be built we instructed our Commissioner to vote against the deferment of Chowilla so as lo create a dispute allowing arbitration to occur. [More…]
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If the debate is to proceed - and I do not want to delay a vote on it - it should proceed on the basis of facts and not on the basis of fantasies. [More…]
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Actually I am hoping that a vote will take place soon. [More…]
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We are all here on a minority vote. [More…]
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In 1957 a further Conference decision reaffirmed the 1948 Conference decision and applied it in the case of how to vote tickets in union elections. [More…]
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On no account can the Government claim that there was a vote in support of Australia’s participation in Vietnam. [More…]
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In fact, in my own State the Party that came out and opposed Australia’s participation in Vietnam received 52% of the first preference votes. [More…]
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I should like to see the Senate have an opportunity to vote and perhaps divide on this very important question. [More…]
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At that time President Eisenhower of the United States said that if an election were to be held within 2 years 80% of Ho Chi Minh’s supporters would vote for unification and would vote for a government suitable to them. [More…]
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I have represented Queensland since 1949 and I have done what lots of people in this chamber have not been prepared to do; I have voted according to my conscience, even if it meant that I was to be thrown out of the Parliament, lt is to the credit of the Liberal Party that we have the freedom to express our conscience, and it is to the credit of the Labor Party that 1 have been re-endorsed time after time. [More…]
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No-one in this chamber is able to say that Senator Wood has not been game to express his opinion and to cany his opinion to a vote according to his conscience. [More…]
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Senator Greenwood is just as careless of the reputations of his fair, fellow Australians as he is of the lives of those Australians whom he votes to send to Vietnam. [More…]
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He will discredit his opponents in order to get that job which Senator Anderson now occupies and which he tried unsuccessfully to obtain today only to find that even the Australian Democratic Labor Party left the Senate in order to avoid the disagreeable duty of having to vote for something for which Senator Greenwood was responsible. [More…]
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That the amountof the proposed vote be reduced by $1 - as an instruction to the Government - (e.g.) [More…]
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That the amount of the proposed vote be reduced by $1 . [More…]
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On several occasions the Australian Labor Party has been accused, when it has moved that the defence vote be reduced by 1 - as it used to be - of wanting to spend less money ondefence. [More…]
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The Government believes that the ruling you gave is the proper ruling and therefore it cannot support the motion or vote for it. [More…]
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We will vote against the further amendment that has been moved by the Australian Labor Party. [More…]
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While I did not detect in Senator Poke’s contribution any suggestion that the vote of home seekers was being sought by our political Party, I think Senator Little’s speech contained strong indications that that was the objective of the DLP. [More…]
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I should like an answer before the vote is taken. [More…]
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some doubt about what I have said, I am prepared to defer putting my motion to the vote until next Tuesday. [More…]
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They all agreed, by voice vote as no actual showing of hands or signatories was required - and I am reading from clause 7 of the Final Declaration: [More…]
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The people of Australia also demonstrated their opposition by their vote in October last year. [More…]
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I do not want to develop the matter any further because, apart from the amendment which may be varied and on which we probably will have a vote, and irrespective of the outcome of that vote, I believe that we are all as one in saying: ‘This is a good Bill’. [More…]
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This proposed amendment will have to go to a vote. [More…]
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I find it difficult to understand people who are now going to offer to the Commonwealth Government a very strong expression of opinion that it should consider stepping out of this field, in other words, abolishing the Commonwealth section of estate duty, but at the same time would not vote for the proposal that difficulties were aggravated by the joint operation in this field of the Commonwealth and States and that these matters should be fully examined with a view to early relief being afforded by early amendment of the Act. [More…]
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I would expect that our resolution might well attract the support of members of the Liberal Party if this matter is put to a vote, as well it might be, because obviously the views of the Government do not satisfy them. [More…]
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I preface my question by saying that I appreciate the Minister’s reply that the Department of Civil Aviation is prepared, upon request, to use planes at the Department’s disposal to assist people in distress or, as he said in his last reply, in the public interest.I ask: Who requested the plane to transport the honourable member for Ballaarat to Canberra to vote to save the present Government from defeat?I further ask: Who was the person in distress who warranted the misuse of the plane? [More…]
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Will the Minister give an answer to that question and the one asked by Senator Marriott on the cost of returning Labor members to Canberra for the admirable purpose of defeating the Government, before the Senate is asked to vote additional moneys to the Department of Civil Aviation under the appropriation Bills now before the Senate? [More…]
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We should know that before we vote money for aircraft to be used for this purpose. [More…]
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We have always willingly voted the money for the aircraft to be used on normal operations which the Department of Civil Aviation justified. [More…]
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The point which concerns me is that the Senate votes an annual appropriation for the activities of the Department of Civil Aviation. [More…]
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Surely if planes are completely misused the Senate could refuse the vote for the cost of the operation of those planes. [More…]
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If this is so and the plane was used to bring the honourable member for Ballaarat (Mr Erwin) to Canberra to vote for the Government, well, I suppose they had to search for him. [More…]
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But this is not the search and rescue and fire services which we anticipated when we voted the money. [More…]
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We on this side of the chamber do not agree that it was in the national interest for the Prime Minister (Mr Gorton) to win that vote as the consequences if he had lost may have proved satisfactory to the nation. [More…]
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The Minister is quite wrong and I think if we put the question to a vote the Government would be defeated. [More…]
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The only explanation which 1 have available to me - it does not add very much - is that provision is made under this vote for financial assistance to the State of South Australia within the terms of the Act. [More…]
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The Committee closely considered all the suggestions placed before it and finally decided, by a majority vote, that ite Report should be framed with the intention of recommending ways of extending and improving the existing voluntary health insurance scheme, and of providing the maximum levels of health care generally throughout the Australian community. [More…]
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He is thinking of the interests of the Government in obtaining the electoral vote. [More…]
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Yet we are now asked, if we proceed immediately to the Committee stages, to consider the amendments and to give a deliberative vote on them. [More…]
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This is the position facing a Party such as ours which as a matter of fact has a significant mathematical position in this chamber and whose vote can be significant on these issues. [More…]
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Does it concede the right - not only the right, but the responsibility - of the 4 members of the Democratic Labor Party, whose vote may be decisive, to examine all these amendments in detail? [More…]
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A senator, though not a member of a Standing Committee, may attend and participate in its public sessions and question witnesses unless the Committee orders otherwise; but shall not vote. [More…]
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Members were asked to vote yes or no or refrain from voting. [More…]
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We listened to their case, we thought it was just and we support and will vote for the amendment. [More…]
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I think that the chamber should put the amendment to a vote without further delay. [More…]
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Yet having demanded for himself full time to examine the matter he instructs his representatives in the Senate to say - without any time at all for the Senate to examine the amendments - that the Senate should vote on the amendments. [More…]
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I wish to make my position clear to honourable senators because I do not intend to vote on this amendment. [More…]
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Then perhaps I should move that the Committee report progress and ask leave to sit again as a test vote on whether the Committee believes that physiotherapists should be included in the medical services because 1 have had time to speak to the Parliamentary Draftsman only casually. [More…]
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I do not think the DLP ought to vote for the amendment, but that is up to its members. [More…]
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This brings me to my final point, because the matter may as well go to a vote. [More…]
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I will foreshadow that proposal after the vote has been taken on the proposed amendment relating to the operating theatre provision. [More…]
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If the Committee leaves this clause in and defeats the amendment on which we are about to vote, we will have the situation where a qualified dentist or a dental practitioner will be approved by the Director-General for the purpose of this definition but inevitably we come back to the situation where an officer in a department will discriminate between 2 people as to who will be approved. [More…]
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The chamber had only just taken a vote after a division on another amendment and honourable senators were finding their places when Senator Turnbull rose in his place and said that he wanted to move a further amendment. [More…]
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I think honourable senators should realise what they will be in fact doing if they vote for this amendment. [More…]
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If honourable senators are going to vote on the amendment as it now stands they are going to vote for one principle but they seem to have 2 points of view for the reason they are voting. [More…]
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I think these points should bc considered before any vote is taken upon this amendment. [More…]
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I would be happy to vote for an amendment along those lines, but I am not happy to vote for the amendment as it presently stands. [More…]
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If Senator McClelland would like to withdraw his present amendment, think about the matter and introduce a new amendment incorporating what I have suggested, I would be happy to vote for it, but I will not vote for the amendment as it presently stands. [More…]
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Therefore I am inclined to vote for the proposed amendment unless I hear something to change my mind. [More…]
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Last night the Senate voted on the amendment to clause 9 proposed by Senator McClelland. [More…]
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I will not go into all the circumstances of the matter but I agreed that the matter should be recommitted so that the Senate could vote again. [More…]
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Leave had just been given by the Committee; but, notwithstanding that, I thought that the Committee ought to be informed that in the vote on this matter the amendment was carried by 1 vote and, as I understand the position, it would have been an even vote but for the fact that the President was not present in circumstances in which apparently there was some misunderstanding. [More…]
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Did the subscribers have a vote when the funds decided to go into the high rental section of Sydney with their palace-type offices? [More…]
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However, I cannot vote in favour of the amendment for the simple reason that I cannot bring myself to aid people who will not do something towards looking after their own interests. [More…]
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I believe that this is right and I am quite prepared to vote for it. [More…]
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In view of the way in which the Parties appear to be intending to vote I would appeal to Government supporters and remind them that much of the material that they have been quoting lo the Committee is contained in a report which was introduced into the Senate today. [More…]
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This entitles that person to vote at a meeting of shareholders of the fund. [More…]
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If they are put seriatim we will oppose proposed new paragraphs (h) and (k) and we will vote for proposed new paragraphs (i) and Q). [More…]
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A Senator, though noi a member of a Committee, may attend and participate in its deliberation’s, and question witnesses unless the Committee orders otherwise, but shall not vote. [More…]
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Does the Minister realise that a referendum whs held under the auspices of the Commonwealth in regard to a marketing plan, but while a majority of the growers agreed with the establishment of the marketing plan the Commonwealth says that it will not implement it because a sufficient percentage of the growers did not vote? [More…]
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Mr Joshua has stood as the Democratic Labor Party candidate for the electorate of Ballaarat at every House of Representatives election which has been held since 1955. and he always secured a strong vote in a seat the result of which on each and every occasion has been determined by DLP preferences. [More…]
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As this Bill will go lo another place and then come back here the Australian Democratic Labor Party proposes to vote for the Bill as it now stands, having heard the Minister’s explanation. [More…]
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Under those circumstances J would hope - possibly a faint hope - that the Democratic Labor Party would change its attitude to the amendment and that honourable senators generally would vote in accordance with the wish expressed by the amendment. [More…]
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Surely that is sufficient reason for supporters of a private enterprise Government to vote for this amendment. [More…]
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While the DLP accepts the desirability of the inclusion of this provision, it is unable to vote in favour of the amendment. [More…]
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They are wondering how they will vote. [More…]
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A Senator, though not a member of a Standing Committee, may attend and participate in its public sessions and question witnesses, unless the Committee orders otherwise, but shall nol vote. [More…]
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A senator, though not a member of a Standing Committee, may attend and participate in its public sessions and question witnesses, unless the Committee orders otherwise, but shall not vote. [More…]
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A senator, though not a member of a standing committee, may attend and participate in its public sessions and question witnesses, unless the committee orders otherwise, but shall not vote. [More…]
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The members of any committee would vote on the recommendations that they are to make to the Senate. [More…]
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Of course, such a vote would not be conclusive upon the Senate. [More…]
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It votes on various matters, but what it does is not conclusive upon the Senate. [More…]
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They might ask questions, but they would not be entitled to vote upon the report which the Committee finally made. [More…]
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A Senator, though not a member of a Standing Committee, may participate in its public sessions and question witnesses, unless the Committee orders otherwise, but shall not vote. [More…]
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We have the opportunity and we ought to vote for ourselves to see that we adopt the machinery to enable us to carry out our task. [More…]
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If we had a free vote in this Senate 1 could hardly imagine any honourable senator - there may be 2 or 3 - who would vote against a system of standing committees to carry out the responsibility of the Senate. [More…]
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I make the point, first of all, that what Senator Murphy said earlier would probably be quite true: If we were just having a vote in the general sense on whether we believe that there is a case for the appointment of additional committees, I do not think there would be any argument or any different view. [More…]
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In the event of an equality of voting, the Chairman, or the Deputy-Chairman when acting as Chairman shall have a casting vote [More…]
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A Senator, though not a member of a Committee, may attend and participate in its deliberations, and question witnesses unless the Committee orders otherwise, but shall not vote. [More…]
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That is undeniably true, and I believe - and I say it with all due modesty - that a lot of that success is due to the fact that we have a minority party here - of 2 for a long time and now of 4 - that is not chained to any political machine and which exercises a vote on all issues according to its conscience and to ils judgment after very close and careful examination of the pros and cons of the issues that come before this Senate. [More…]
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Under the terms of the Bill a producer will be entitled to a vote if during the year preceding the polling day he supplied milk or cream to a butter or cheese factory and at the time of voting owned cows for this purpose. [More…]
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Where milk or cream is supplied to a factory by a partnership each partner will be entitled to a vote. [More…]
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In the case of companies, each company will receive a vote. [More…]
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To avoid the possibility of minors voting in the referendum only persons who have attained the age of 21 years will be allowed to vote. [More…]
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- are entirely wrong if they vote to adjourn the Senate now. [More…]
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Mr Deputy President, I think the Opposition and the Government are entirely wrong if they vote to adjourn the Senate now. [More…]
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If honourable senators on this side of the chamber are serious about the responsibility they have of governing the country they should vote against the motion for the adjournment of the Senate and get on with the business of governing, which is the purpose for which we are here. [More…]
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All honourable senators who are serious - - I stress the word ‘serious’ - about the business of the Senate should either stand up and say that they are not in favour of what I have said or vote in support of me. [More…]
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if we do go to a vote before T have had a chance to discuss this with my colleagues, wc would oppose it. [More…]
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A vote taken on a certain regulation decided that it was a question for parliamentary control and that we. [More…]
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It is one to which I have given expression by my vote on earlier occasions. [More…]
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For Fitzgerald and Anderson it probably will not mean a vote. [More…]
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I understand that we are to deal with the 3 related Bills by separate vote, but we are discussing the general principles in this area. [More…]
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Senators on this side are able to cross the floor and vote against the Government without any fear of action being taken against them. [More…]
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If anybody on a Committee is bound by some decision as to how he should act and vote as a member of that Committee, I feat that this committee system will not work as we all hope it will. [More…]
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Subject to that, I propose to vote for the proposal put forward by the Opposition. [More…]
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I ask that the question be put to a vote. [More…]
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The question has been put to a vote. [More…]
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I am sure that if Senator Murphy’s resolution had not been the first resolution but the second, and if the Government’s resolution had been carried, Senator Murphy would not have argued, as he did tonight, that he was precluded from putting his resolution forward and having a vote taken on it. [More…]
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If the Senate should see fit to carry our resolution, the interpretation obviously and logically open to such resolution of the Senate is this: It is that part of our resolution in particular that honourable senators want put into operation and on which they were not invited to vote because of the terms of Senator Murphy’s proposition. [More…]
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We would discuss them as cognate matters, if that is the appropriate term, deal with them together, and at the end of the discussion put them to a vote in some way which will determine appropriately the view of the Senate. [More…]
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I can only say that I will regard myself as having been deceived in this matter if we are not permitted to take a vote on the motion put forward by the Australian Democratic Labor Party. [More…]
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The Australian Labor Party’s argument is that we should not vote on the Democratic Labor Party motion because we have already voted on something else. [More…]
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In that case, I am wondering what all the talk is about and why we did not have a vote a long time ago. [More…]
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If there was opposition to or criticism ot the procedure that has been adopted, I suggest that at that stage the Opposition should have called for a vote to decide which motion would be put first. [More…]
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I know that some honourable senators could not vote for a [More…]
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I know that the bitterness in his guts would not allow him to vote for a motion put by a member of the DLP, irrespective of the value of the motion. [More…]
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The Bill also provides for the Chairman of the Board to have a deliberative vote as well as a casting vote. [More…]
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Currently the Chairman has only a casting vote. [More…]
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In the event of an equality of voting, the Chairman, or the Deputy-Chairman when acting as Chairman, shall have a casting vote. [More…]
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It seems to be the envy of the Leader of the Opposition that the members of the Australian Labor Party, including the honourable senators who sit behind him are not able to vote according to their beliefs but that they are bound by a rule that the majority decision of Caucus decides their manner of voting in the Parliament. [More…]
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Honourable senators opposite seem to envy the proper independence and freedom which honourable senators on this side of the chamber enjoy enabling the distinguished members of the Liberal-Country Party coalition Senate team and I to vote according to our judgment. [More…]
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Any person who - (1) In order to influence a member of cither House of Parliament in his vote, opinion, judgment or action, upon any question or matter arising in the House of which he is a member or in any committee thereof, or in any joint Committee of both Houses, or in order to induce him to abse’nt himself from the House or from any such Committee, gives, confers, or procures, or promises or offers to give or confer, or to procure or attempt to procure, any property or benefit of any kind to, upon, or for, such member, or to, upon, or for, any other person: … is guilty of a crime, and is liable to imprisonment with hard labour for seven years. [More…]
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One can only interpret the Senate’s majority vote on the motion as an indication that it upheld the Committee’s point of view, namely, that it was very doubtful whether there was power for the Governor-General to make the alteration in question and, if there was such power, the alteration should have been made by the Parliament and not by regulation. [More…]
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I think that the Regulations and Ordinances Committee was quite right in bringing the matter before the Senate and I concurred in the vote of the Senate disallowing the regulations. [More…]
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The results of the recent Victorian election expose the disaffection that exists between the Country Party and rural voters. [More…]
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More especially is this so when we consider that country electorates are loaded in favour of the Country Party vote. [More…]
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I believe that we should now put the amendment to the vote. [More…]
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In relation to the other aspects of the responsibility of Parliament - that is, in the judgment of the merits of the vote of funds for particular purposes which the Constitution allows - I suggest there is not the same opportunity available to the Parliament for the judgment of the merit of the issue. [More…]
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I suppose it is a matter of some consolation to the Senate to know that in this expenditure of up to SI 00m Australia is not involved in making any payments towards the Fill aircraft because, remarkable as it may seem, and despite the extraordinary extravagance of voting about $257m so far for this aircraft Australia still has - and I repeat, remarkably - $75m in kitty which was passed as an expenditure by vote of the Senate some time in 1968. [More…]
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If we are speaking about the Loan (Defence) Bill, according to page 3458 of my daily Hansard the motion for the second reading in the House of Representatives was resolved in the affirmative and no vote was taken. [More…]
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While we will not vote against the legislation we are putting to the Government - and I am quite sure thai it is aware of this situation - that the matter is most urgent. [More…]
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If this move is unsuccessful the Opposition intends to vote against the Bill. [More…]
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by leave - Mr Deputy President, I think in the circumstances we would be agreeable to having the Bills dealt with together, but 1 do not favour the suggestion that there should be one vote at the second reading stage. [More…]
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Senator Sir KENNETH ANDERSON (New South Wales - Minister for Supply) - by leave - If we vote first on the Receipts Duties (Administration) Bill at the second reading stage and the motion is defeated then I, as the Leader of the Government, would not want to proceed to the other Bills because there would be no point in doing so. [More…]
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But I am still hoping that we will win the first vote. [More…]
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Leaving aside the vote. [More…]
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The Opposition has done this over the years, and in order to illustrate the tradition which has been established, with the concurrence of honourable senators I shall incorporate in Hansard at the end of my speech a list of the measures of an economic or financial nature, including taxation and appropriation Bills, which have been opposed by this Opposition in whole or in part by a vote in the Senate since 1950. [More…]
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I rise to speak against this measure and indicate that my colleagues of the Australian Democratic Labor Party and I will vote against the Bill. [More…]
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Furthermore, he failed to answer a question which I asked about why the ALP Opposition in the Senate, after convening a special sitting of the Senate to deal with postal charges, walked out of the Senate when the vital vote was about to be taken. [More…]
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We propose to vote against it. [More…]
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As a consequence, I shall vote against the legislation. [More…]
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The ruling of the Chair is that the Senate will vote on each Bill individually. [More…]
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The present circumstances are such that the ACTU has asked the Australian Labor Party to vote against the provisions. [More…]
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We do not think it is very satisfactory, but we propose to vote for it because we think that in some respects it offers some improvement. [More…]
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I do not say he was elected by the members of the Union because, as I understand the position, a fraction of the members of certain unions vote in the election of office bearers. [More…]
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If we could persuade the bulk or the majority of the members of unions, or all of them to vote for their office bearers we would have a better idea of the thinking of these bodies, but this is a difficult task. [More…]
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In the event of an equality of voting, the Chairman, or the Deputy-Chairman when acting as Chairman, shall have a casting vote. [More…]
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In the last session of Parliament he refused to vote with the Government to gag debate on benefits for returned soldiers and marched, ramrod stiff as ever, out of the House. [More…]
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I speak with a particular affection because for more than 20 years he was in the House of Representatives, the representative of the electorate of Chisholm and as a lifetime resident in that electorate I have not had occasion to vote for any other candidate. [More…]
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In the event of an equality of voting, the Chairman, or the Deputy Chairman when acting as Chairman, shall have a casting vote. [More…]
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In regard to new terminal facilities an application was made for a development grant to provide a new terminal early in 1967 and an item for this was included in the vote for 1967-68 and for the two subsequent financial years but the buildings project has not been pursued by the Committee. [More…]
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This is one of the things that the Minister for Trade and Industry has fostered over the years in an endeavour to encourage and direct the urban vote towards the Country Party. [More…]
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The Minister set out to encourage that vote and direct it towards the Country Party. [More…]
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In the event of an equality of voting, the Chairman, or the Deputy Chairman when acting as Chairman, shall have a casting vote. [More…]
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Senator Wood ought not to be paired for this vote. [More…]
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However, if we do have a vote we will find out that the Government is taking advantage of the position tonight. [More…]
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I would like the opportunity - in fact, I think I am entitled to the opportunity as a matter of right - to vote against the 2 clauses. [More…]
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However, I agree with Senator Sir Kenneth Anderson’s suggestion that at the present time 2 committees should be set up, and I suggest that the Senate should vote on that matter. [More…]
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Is it not a fact that Prince Sihanouk was removed from office by a unanimous vote of the democratically elected Parliament of Cambodia? [More…]
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It is a fact that Prince Sihanouk was removed from office by the unanimous vote of both Houses of the Cambodian Parliament which was elected in 1966 when Prince Sihanouk was still Head of State. [More…]
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When the matter comes before the Senate for discussion I suggest that any proposals relating to our programme should be considered on a non-Party basis and decided by an open vote. [More…]
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I would like to have a discussion with the leaders of the other parties to see if we can bring this matter on for debate next week and have a free vote on it. [More…]
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by leave - In speaking on the questions of sitting days and times I speak for myself because the attitude taken by my Party is that these matters should be questions on which we should vote freely. [More…]
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There may be individual approaches to the matter and they should be reflected in a free vote. [More…]
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I think we could dispose of them together and vote to take note of the papers. [More…]
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If we are to vote today on the disallowance of the regulation, it should be done by 4.30 this afternoon. [More…]
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If it is not disposed of by vote today, it will be disposed of in any event, which would suit the Opposition. [More…]
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If by a vote, of the [More…]
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If Senator Davidson acted on that assumption 1 suggest that he should not vote for the disallowance this afternoon, because he has given his support to a document on the wrong assumption. [More…]
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I would not want to vote for anything if I were under a wrong assumption. [More…]
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It is proper that we should vote on it. [More…]
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I hope that the Senate in its judgment on this occasion will not vote for the disallowance, because if it does not and regulation 1 1 2 stands I have given an assurance, with authority, that the regulations will be . [More…]
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Quite properly, I think, Senator Murphy made the point that the Committee having made a judgment on this matter the Senate ought to proceed to take a vote on the basis of the recommendation that was made, that is, that the regulation be disallowed. [More…]
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No, we did not vote against it. [More…]
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The debate took place on 28th May and was adjourned until 20th August 1968 when a vote on the matter was taken. [More…]
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Vote for us and we will look after you.’ [More…]
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They found an excuse to vote against it. [More…]
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Do not have a permanent standing committee, just have a temporary one, one that we call a select committee, and then we will vote for it.’ [More…]
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Senator Barry Goldwater predicted yesterday that the Senate would vote next week to abolish the draft- [More…]
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We will vote against the measures which seek to impose unjust taxes on the people. [More…]
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About 2 months ago the Congress voted to increase the Budget by a tremendous sum - I think, something of the order of a billion dollars - to provide money to be spent on hospitals, so bad had the hospitals system in America become. [More…]
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Both Houses overrode his veto, by a two-third vote in each House. [More…]
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They are well known to everybody and from time to time vote against the Government on minor matters. [More…]
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The Government talked that debate out without a vote being taken. [More…]
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That in the event of an equality of voting, the Chairman, or the Deputy Chairman when acting as Chairman, shall have a casting vote. [More…]
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That a Senator though not a member of the Select Committee may attend and participate in its public sessions and question witnesses unless the Committee orders otherwise, but shall not vote. [More…]
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1 understand that the debate will take place on non-party lines and that a free vote will be taken. [More…]
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He would have a casting vote as well as a deliberative vote. [More…]
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The Committee to which I referred was set up by the unanimous vote of both Houses in order to deal with this very problem. [More…]
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This Committee of both Houses was set up by a unanimous vote and presented a unanimous report. [More…]
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I indicated the other day that there should be a free vote. [More…]
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On all these questions of days, times and alterations of procedures, my Party is approaching the matter as one for a free vote. [More…]
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I rise merely to say that the members of the Australian Democratic Labor Party have been told that they may vote freely on all the issues that are to come up for decision, as, I understand, is the case with other senators; but all the members of my Party agree with what is set out in this proposal. [More…]
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For that reason, whilst we members of the Democratic Labor Party have no desire to obstruct any co-operation that may be felt desirable, we believe that this proposal is the right way to deal with the matter and we are prepared to vote for it. [More…]
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I would like the Senate to have an opportunity to vote also on the days of sitting but my first thought is to ensure that our rights to speak, at question time particularly, and our other rights will not be interfered with in order to tailor the business of the Senate to the times that members want to sit. [More…]
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The House of Representatives took this matter on to the floor of the House and decided on a vote of its members. [More…]
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It was decided on an open vote of members by 66 ayes to 39 noes. [More…]
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But the reason why the last 2 lines were inserted in the motion, as 1 interpret it, was so that honourable senators could vote upon the proposal for a 3 weeks cycle in substitution for the 4 weeks cycle without prejudice in any way to the days upon which we would sit and the hours during which we would sit. [More…]
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I take the opportunity, as a free vote will be available on this question, to express some opinions and to indicate how I intend to vote. [More…]
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A complete report could be brought down and honourable senators should have the right of a free vote on the various questions. [More…]
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If the vote is taken I shall support the motion moved by the Leader of the Government in the Senate. [More…]
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If no other honourable senator wishes to speak, I will close the debate and we will put the motion to the vote. [More…]
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The Department of Defence vote has increased by 3.1 per cent over last year. [More…]
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No one in South Australia could possibly give a vote of approval to the Budget because it will have a more disastrous effect on that State than on any other State of the Commonwealth. [More…]
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I would like a decision to be made and a vote to be taken on the motion. [More…]
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To return again to some of the other matters in the Budget, we note that on this occasion the defence vote has been increased to $ J, 137m, which is an increase of 3.1 per cent over last year. [More…]
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The Democratic Labor Party has made up its mind to vote against the defeat of the Government on social services, because members of that Party also want to see pensioners die so that they will not be about the place needing additional pensions. [More…]
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the defence vote still does not adequately meet the requirements for Australian defence and security demanded according to the Government’s own Budget statement by “the changes occurring in international relationships especially as they affect South East Asia and Australia, and of developing defence policies which will serve us in the strategic developments of the future”; [More…]
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Our Party does not adopt the suggestion put by some people that we should protest merely because there may not have been an increase or a desirable increase in the defence vote each year. [More…]
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We believe that an essential feature of the defence vote in any Budget is that provision should be made for improved remuneration for those who enter the service of their country so that in future young men may make the armed forces a career. [More…]
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My attitude has been that, if it were possible to save $280m, then that sum should have been devoted to the pensioners, to child endowment, to education and to other deserving causes. [More…]
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I believe that the average Australian, knowing the plight of the underprivileged, would be glad to forgo the $5, S6 or $7 that he on a low salary might get from the tax cuts if he thought that sum would be devoted to causes which would help the underprivileged. [More…]
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We point out firstly that, in voting on the motion before us, no decision in regard to the Budget will be made on this vote. [More…]
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A vote on such a measure could not defeat the Budget. [More…]
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What happens in relation to this motion is that the Opposition parties express their opinions of the Budget, but any decision to defeat the Budget depends not upon this vote but upon votes which will be taken upon subsequent Bills. [More…]
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But, as I have said, assuming that the Government presents the same provision, my Party will vote against it. [More…]
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There should be a vote of no confidence in the Minister for Health over his handling of the affairs of his Department, lt is outrageous that for 2 years the Minister did nothing about the problem of children being poisoned with drugs and medicines to which they should not have had access, lt was only on 5th August 1970 that the Minister sent a memorandum to pharmacists about this matter. [More…]
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I feel sure that they will give credit to the Australian Labor Party for what it is doing, and will vote accordingly. [More…]
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Despite statements to the contrary, the ALP, both State and Federal, has never had a conscience vote written into the platform. [More…]
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We are fighting for human rights for Sam Benson; we are fighting for human rights for the individual who does not wish to be compelled to join a union; we are fighting for the right of Senator Cavanagh to vote against his leader should he desire to do so, although it has not happened once since he came here. [More…]
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Senator Cant has said that it is a pity that some Government supporters have not intestinal fortitude, but I should like to know whether there is anybody in the Opposition who has the intestinal fortitude to vote against his Party at any stage. [More…]
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Senator Sir KENNETH ANDERSONWe vote on that and dispose of it. [More…]
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By agreement among all honourable senators what we say, do and vote on in relation to these 3 motions is a completely free, uninhibited expression of view. [More…]
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We can have a free discussion on it and come to a vote. [More…]
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We are being asked to vote on whether questions on notice should be automatically included in Hansard when answers are supplied by Ministers in another place. [More…]
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1 would not vote for any curtailment of the present right to ask questions on notice and to have answers stated orally in Senate assembled. [More…]
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I think we should take a vote on his first proposal. [More…]
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If it did not, when it submitted its findings, the Senate would vote in the same way as it did the first time. [More…]
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I know that this will be a free vote. [More…]
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I hope that at least on this occasion he and I will be on the same side when the vote is taken. [More…]
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Now that the matter has by common consent been thrown into the Senate and there is agreement by everyone that we shall vote as we think fit without regard to Party issues, I shall avail myself of that right in the same way as every other honourable senator. [More…]
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I do not ask or expect anyone to vote with me on Party lines. [More…]
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I will vote in the way I think is best for the Senate. [More…]
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I will sit down, but in my time and not when Senator Cavanagh wants me to because, peculiarly enough, he has only I vote in this place. [More…]
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Members of the Opposition knew that they, together with those who occupy the centre benches, could by joining together out-number the senators within the Government parties and, on a vote, throw out the Budget papers. [More…]
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For all they knew they might even have been joined by one or more honourable senators from this side of the chamber because we have the freedom to vote how, when and where we like. [More…]
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Is it negative or deceptive to increase by 25 per cent in one financial year the vote for education? [More…]
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If I must be sidetracked momentarily bv honourable senators opposite, Mr Acting Deputy President, I would say that I believe the time is near when every ballot for the election of a union official and particularly every vote as to whether to go on strike will have to be conducted by officials in secret. [More…]
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The DLP has indicated through Senator McManus that it is prepared to vote for a Bill validating the collection of this tax up to 1st October. [More…]
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But we also know very well that when the whips are cracked he will cross over and vote on the side of the Government. [More…]
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the defence vote still does not adequately meet the requirements for Australian defence and security demanded according to the Government’s own Budget statement by ‘the changes occurring in international relationships especially as they affect South East Asia and Australia, and of developing defence policies which will serve us in the strategic developments of the future’; [More…]
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The defence vote still does not adequately meet the requirements for Australian defence and security . [More…]
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Its amentment, in this form, is quite unacceptable to us and we will vote against it. [More…]
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The Government’s so-called concern for pensioners is only a vote catching gimmick. [More…]
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At that time it was a fairly popular issue and a vote catcher. [More…]
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To make a statement such as that is most unfair, most unjust and irresponsible, and it is a grave reflection on those women throughout Australia who are receiving aid under the social services vote. [More…]
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Sometimes I feel that both the major political parties want to retain pensions in the political field as a means of attracting support at election time, when they might use them as a carrot for the less thinking section of our people, particularly the aged and the sick who are desperately in need of additional funds and will vote irrespective of what other policy items might be on the platform or in the policy speeches of the respective leaders. [More…]
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They will say: *I am going to vote for him because he is going to give me another $2 whereas the other fellow is going to give me only $1.’ [More…]
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I believe that it has not looked to that which may be vote catching or that which, to the mind of the emotional, may be the most desirable. [More…]
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Irrespective of whether the amendment is carried, the Bill will come into operation by the vote of the Senate, including the votes of Opposition members. [More…]
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But If honourable senators opposite vote against the proposed amendment they will be indicating that they are not of the opinion that the increases are inadequate. [More…]
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Honourable senators opposite intend to vote that in their opinion social service payments generally are adequate to maintain an acceptable standard of living. [More…]
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They will not vote for the opinion expressed in the amendment that the payments are inadequate. [More…]
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Honourable senators opposite will vote against that proposition, thus demonstrating their view that if poverty exists, it should exist and steps should not be taken to eliminate it. [More…]
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I do not believe that there is a vote for either the Government or the Opposition in the amount of social service payments. [More…]
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I think the average recipient of social service payments has reached the stage where he has voted for a particular political party for many years and will not change. [More…]
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I would be inclined to think that the false cry that increased social service payments means increased taxation could result in a loss of votes to a political party rather than a gain. [More…]
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Despite the fact that that is happening we have notification that the Government is going to vote against the amendment moved by Senator Fitzgerald which states that steps should be taken immediately to eliminate poverty. [More…]
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If it does not apply to these people, I feel that I will have no alternative but to vote against it because the principle is wrong. [More…]
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Now that the committees have been established by a vote of the Senate we have a situation in which 5 of them are meeting, taking the business of the Senate out of this chamber and into rooms in the lower section of this building where there are few facilities for the Press and certainly no facilities to enable the public to listen to the debates. [More…]
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Tonight we are in the situation where we can vote to retain the privileges that the Senate has or give them away for the remainder of the session. [More…]
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there would be another vote afterwards. [More…]
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After having a look at the names of those honourable senators who have voted against the establishment of such a committee one must wonder where the interest in the problems of ex-servicemen lie because it certainly does not lie in the hearts or the minds of a majority of the Government senators. [More…]
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I hope that honourable senators opposite will at the appropriate time vote in favour of the setting up of such a committee because it would be one way in which the shortcomings of the Repatriation Act could be examined. [More…]
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Yet we find that the overall percentage increase for repatriation pensions and benefits is less than the percentage increase in the defence vote of this country. [More…]
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I do hope that the Senate will, in its wisdom, if a vote is taken tonight or if not tonight tomorrow, carry the amendment referring the matter to a committee. [More…]
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I believe that the sooner we come to a vote on the issue and the sooner we dispose of the matter the better. [More…]
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It would have been farcical in this place to vote against the motion to take note of the Budget Papers. [More…]
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However, when the testing time comes I am sure we will find that they will support the Government and vote against the amendment which has been moved by Senator Willesee on behalf of the Opposition. [More…]
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I appreciate that the Government will not agree to eliminate the clause, because the Senate by its vote tonight has determined that the new postal rates will become law. [More…]
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My suggestion is that rather than have the Opposition vote against this provision at this stage - the Australian Labor Party will certainly vote against it - the Minister should move that progress be reported and seek advice outside the chamber on the merits of staggering the increases. [More…]
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I hope that the Government has been influenced sufficiently, if not by what has been said in the Parliament then at least by a number of its supporters, lo change its mind about this proposal, if the Government has not been influenced in that way then I hope that the honourable senator who normally supports the Government but who tonight criticised these postal charges, will back up his criticism by voting with the Opposition when the vote is taken on this clause. [More…]
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I ask the Committee by ils vote to protect the printing industry from the extravagant imposts to be applied under this clause. [More…]
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The Opposition intends to vote against it. [More…]
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I think it is sufficient for me to say that the Opposition will vote against this clause and it will vote against the third reading of the Bill. [More…]
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It will be remembered that on 12th May 1967, 3 years ago, when we dealt with 2 similar Bills the ALP and the DLP voted together and we defeated the Post and Telegraph Rates Bill by 25 votes to 24. [More…]
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On 19th May a motion to postpone a second Post and Telegraph Rates Bill was successful by 23 votes to 22. [More…]
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On 20th June the Senate was recalled specially so that we could deal with regulations which provided for increases in certain rates, and we defeated those regulations by 27 votes to 25. [More…]
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On 19th September - at almost about this time of the year - my colleagues and I, 3 in number, were the only ones to vote against the Bills, members of the ALP electing to leave the chamber. [More…]
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That is the Labor Party’s business but I do not want to be placed in the position again of being one of 3 who vote for the withdrawal of the Bills. [More…]
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In the other place in 1968 - and since that time in this place - we moved a similar proposition to that which Senator Willesee has moved on this occasion with the exception, of course, that we did not finally vote against the legislation as we intend to do today. [More…]
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That fact alone is sufficient for us to vote against this Bill. [More…]
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On the second reading of the Bill the Democratic Labor Party voted against the increased charges and the Opposition did not. [More…]
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Today we are giving the DLP an opportunity to vote with us against the increased charges. [More…]
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Senator Willesee will pledge on behalf of the Opposition and will give an assurance now that the Opposition intends to vote against the Bills. [More…]
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It would be silly to vote against taking note of the Budget papers. [More…]
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The only practical way in which an opposition can show its distaste for the Budget is to vote against those operative Bills which put budgetary proposals into effect. [More…]
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Let all honourable senators vote on the second reading in the way they want to vote. [More…]
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Let us vote for or against the motion that the Bill be now read a second time, which would decide whether or not postal increases would go into effect. [More…]
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Now Senator Ganis moving the proposition in such a way that if we vote for it we are voting for the Bill. [More…]
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If he likes to withdraw this amendment, he can then vote for the Bill; it can go through; the next Bill will go through; although we will oppose it; and we will even oppose the third reading. [More…]
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The situation is that we will not vote for this proposition while we have to vote on this Bill. [More…]
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We intend to vote against it. [More…]
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Without going into the very highly emotional things which affect youth today, it is obvious that they will shortly have the vote at 18 years of age and it is a disappointment to me that this Parliament, unless I can coax the Government into slipping a Bill through in the next few weeks, will not give the vote to that section of our community. [More…]
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It is not good for any government to have to shape its policies towards an election, and it is not good for the Australian people to be going to the polling booths just about every second Saturday afternoon to vote in one election or another. [More…]
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I hope that the next time an announcement is made about an election both the question of giving the vote to our youth, and the question of bringing the elections for the Senate and the House of Representatives together again, will be in the forefront of the Government’s mind. [More…]
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Honourable senators opposite may have their own views, but 1 notice that they slick very closely to the views of their Parties when a vote is taken. [More…]
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We are forced to vote on it right now without having the opportunity of considering it and perhaps of arriving at some reasonable proposition which might have met the point raised and might have achieved a desirable result all round. [More…]
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If my Party thinks that the Australian Labor Party has put forward something that is good and worthwhile we vote for it. [More…]
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As far as my Party is concerned, we will vote according to the merits on measures that come before the Senate. [More…]
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If the Australian Labor Party does not feel inclined to vote for our amendment then that is its business. [More…]
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I repeat what I said before: lt appears to me that the trouble in respect of this amendment, as in respect of others which we have moved in the last few weeks and in regard to which members of the Australian Labor Party have objected to the wording or said that some little thing has been wrong with the wording, is that they do not vote on issues on their merits: they vote on them according to whether the Democratic Labor Party has moved the amendment or someone else has moved it. [More…]
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I will vote the way my Party decides. [More…]
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We will have to vote on this amendment before we reach the Committee stage. [More…]
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Whilst it may be true, as Senator McManus states, that he and his colleagues will be able to tell us at a later stage what the meaning of the words is, that will be after we have voted. [More…]
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Let them tell us before we have to vote. [More…]
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I do not think the Senate has been informed in any way by Senator McManus’s interjection that we will be told exactly what the meaning of the amendment is after we have voted on it. [More…]
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If 1 cannot get the information I seek before I vote on the proposed amendment, I will vote against it. [More…]
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Let us have the information before we must vote so that: senators can consider whether they will vote for the amendment. [More…]
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Unless advice is forthcoming from them before the vote is taken, I will vote against the proposed amendment. [More…]
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The Australian Labor Party, having indicated in reasoned speeches its attitude to the Bill, wants to delay the passage of the Bill because it has not made up its mind collectively on whether it will vote for or against, the amendment to the motion for the second reading of the Bill. [More…]
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Surely the amendment is not of such importance that parties have to leave the Senate and wait until the normal meeting time to discuss whether they can vote on some rather extraordinary proposal, in my estimation, that the Government should introduce in the future - not in this legislation - in respect of air charges. [More…]
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If the debate is not deferred the Opposition will have to vote against the proposal. [More…]
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For this reason we intend strongly to oppose the Bills and vote against them. [More…]
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To my recollection the Labor Party has never voted against a sales tax Bill when it has been brought forward at Budget time. [More…]
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Now it proposes to vote against this sales tax measure. [More…]
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Last year he did not vote against the measure. [More…]
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The Opposition has had since 1949 to vote against sales tax. [More…]
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I think that anybody who is trying to produce a situation in which there is a lower informal vote in a Senate election is doing something very useful for the Australian people, the Senate and the Parliament. [More…]
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Although we will not call for a vote in the Committee stage, we will call for a vote on the motion for the third reading of the Bill and divide on it. [More…]
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Unfortunately, the previous amendment did not receive the support of the Opposition when a vote was taken. [More…]
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[ believe that if the South Australian senators on the other side are mindful of the welfare of the wine industry they will join us on this side of the chamber when the vote is taken later today. [More…]
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1 want to say quite clearly that if this is to be the pattern I most certainly will be opposing, by my vote, any further requests. [More…]
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But when the time came for a vote to be taken there was hardly one of them present in the chamber. [More…]
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They should have voted against that legislation affecting the wine industry, in accordance with what they said. [More…]
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In respect of practically every field of primary industry members of the Country Party will speak one way and vote the other. [More…]
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They intended to vote against it. [More…]
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The vote was put to them as to whether they wanted an investigation of their problems by members of Parliament or an investigation and survey by experts in the rural industry. [More…]
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By 996 votes to 4 the farmers declared against having a parliamentary inquiry. [More…]
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I submit that until the honourable senator puts his objection in writing in compliance with the standing order we have no right to vote on this motion. [More…]
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The following Motions are not open to debate, shall be moved without argument or opinion offered, and shall be forthwith put by the President from the Chair, and the vote taken: [More…]
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After the vote on the motion determined that the President’s ruling would be upheld, Senator Wright moved as an amendment that the debate be adjourned and made an order of the day for the next day of sitting. [More…]
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If honourable senators want to vote against the motion they may do so. [More…]
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It will race them through the House of Representatives and through this chamber because the Democratic Labor Party once again will vote to gag debate in this chamber on things which embarrasses it. [More…]
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Right or wrong, that proposition could have been brought to a vote. [More…]
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J do not mind indicating how we would vote on it. [More…]
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I am suggesting that because of the importance of the matters involved, the proposition should have been brought to a vote. [More…]
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Let us join both these proposals and let us have a vote on them today. [More…]
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We can use the processes of this Senate to have the Democratic Labor Party proposition brought on for discussion simultaneously and brought to a vote. [More…]
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I think that the Democratic Labor Party is putting up a smokescreen, lt wants to say that it moved for a royal commission but that the proposition did not come to a vote. [More…]
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Did its members want it to come to a vote? [More…]
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Did they take action to bring it to a vote? [More…]
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There is an opportunity to debate these matters in this chamber but I hazard a guess that once again they will cross the chamber and vote with the Country Party and the Liberal’ Party to ensure that this issue is not discussed further and is not brought to a vote. [More…]
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I suggest, Mr President, that our amendment should be voted on by every honourable senator who is really interested in having debates on major matters in this Parliament, especially one which is so vital to Australia and which affects people in rural areas. [More…]
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He is entitled to say that he believes the Senate should vote against the proposition, but let him continue his speech and put his point of view. [More…]
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Then he got his colleague to say that the matter should be put over to some other day, which will mean that it will never come on for discussion and a vote before the end of the session. [More…]
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This means that they are afraid to say their piece and are afraid to let this chamber vote on the proposition. [More…]
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It will vote with the members of the Country Party and with the members of the Liberal Party against our proposal.’ [More…]
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It will be given the opportunity to vote on the proposal for a royal commission. [More…]
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Senator Murphy said that no vote will ever be taken. [More…]
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We want a vote taken. [More…]
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Later today members of the Opposition can vote on the proposition. [More…]
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Subject to the amendment being a competent one, we will ask the Senate to vote on this proposition. [More…]
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I will ask for a vote of the Senate to be taken on the matter. [More…]
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I remember discussing them with Senator McManus who was, at that time, most anxious to bring the matter to a vote, as I was. [More…]
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We have no doubt about whether we will be given an opportunity to vote on this matter tomorrow. [More…]
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We can vote for the Government’s motion as amended. [More…]
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All the Labor Parly has to do is vote for the proposition which Senator Byrne has put forward. [More…]
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The simple fact is that all the Senate has to do is vote for the proposition which has been put forward by Senator Byrne. [More…]
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This proposition would be carried if the Leader of the Opposition had the courage to put his vote where his mouth has been all afternoon. [More…]
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All the honourable senator has to do is to vote for that proposition. [More…]
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I suggest that he should abandon that course and support us in this vote. [More…]
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Accordingly, I suggest that we proceed to a vote. [More…]
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In those circumstances, it is our view that We have no alternative but to vote for the measure. [More…]
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The Democratic Labor Party will not vote for the amendment which has been moved on behalf of the Australian Labor Party and which, seeks to withdraw the Bill and to have it redrafted. [More…]
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We saw members of that little imbecile party crawling sometimes, running at others, and sometimes struggling across to vote with the Government because the moment it allows the Government to be defeated on issues of this nature it would be- [More…]
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However, it was of the opinion that it could not vote to destroy the Budget because of the good provisions which were contained in it. [More…]
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We would support it on the presumption that the matter would come to a vote. [More…]
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As indicated on several occasions, what the Australian Labor Party wants is to bring the matter to a vote and to have a decision made on this whole complex rural question. [More…]
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Despite the fact that no doubt the motion will be carried I think the way in which we can express our disapproval of the manner in which the business has been conducted - the indefiniteness of it and the irregularity of it in the way I have explained - is to vote against the motion. [More…]
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I regret that we have to vote against this motion, but we do so because we want to bring home to the Government that we are serious about the new sitting times. [More…]
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That is why we will vote against the motion. [More…]
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There is an overwhelming reason why the members of the Australian Labor Party in this chamber will not vote in favour of the proposal and that is that it would be of no use whatever because a royal commission would be an instrument of the Government and not of the Parliament. [More…]
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We want to get this issue to a vote to have established whether or not honourable senators opposite are prepared to do something. [More…]
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We in the Labor Party want the vote taken. [More…]
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The Australian Wool Indus fry Conference by another vote recommended the lifting of the embargo on the export of merino rams. [More…]
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The Australian Labor Party may have set up the Australian Wheat Board on a majority vote of the wheat industry; but, having set it up, in 1945-46 the then Labor Government decided to do its own marketing behind the back of the Wheat Board - the board which had been set up by the wheat industry and which should have been given the responsibilities and respect that it deserved, I have certain papers in my office. [More…]
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My remarks will be very brief, firstly, because I moved the original motion and therefore I can refer only to the amendment and the proposed amendment, and secondly, because I think there is fairly general agreement that we must have a vote on these matters tonight and I want to leave as much time as possible for any other honourable senator who may wish to speak. [More…]
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Therefore, we of the Democratic Labor Party must oppose the amendment moved by Senator Murphy simply because the fanners, by vote at big meetings, said that they did not trust such a form of inquiry and that they wanted an inquiry by experts. [More…]
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Let me assure honourable senators opposite that they will have the opportunity to vote. [More…]
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There are one or two things that I want to say before this motion is put to the vote. [More…]
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1 remind you that this is one of the primary industries, but so long as the gold miners do not vote for the Country Party you arc not interested in whether the industry is kept going. [More…]
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It is true, as Senator Cant says, that as this is a money Bill it cannot be amended in this place and there-, fore if the Opposition does not like the Bill it will have to vote against it. [More…]
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I would find it hard to believe that it would vote against the Bill because a subsidy will be paid at the rate of $8 per ounce for the next 3 years from 1st July this year. [More…]
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1 believe that we should get on with the business of the Senate and take a vote on the motion which is before the Chair. [More…]
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We still do not know whether the honourable senator is prepared to exercise his free vote or whether he will submit to pressure from his Party. [More…]
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The Government is never anxious to have matters discussed under the heading of General Business put to a vote. [More…]
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I will vote for this motion with some feeling of apprehension and some feeling of fear. [More…]
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The independent senator, who might have spoken on this matter, is in New York and has not indicated his views to us by cable or appointed a proxy to vote in his place. [More…]
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I recall, to his credit, that he was the only senator to cross the floor to vote with us on this matter previously. [More…]
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I suppose when and if a vote is taken they will vote against the urgency motion. [More…]
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and I shall vote according to my conscience. [More…]
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My feeling is that at the time of the vote a majority of the Senate was against the division of the profession. [More…]
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Therefore, when the matter duly conies to a vote I shall vote for the disallowance of all of the sections that have been moved by Senator Murphy other than section 6. [More…]
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In summing up I do not cover again all the ground that is common ground in relation to amalgam professions and all the other matters that have been commented on: i simply say that, in the interests of the overwhelming majority of the legal profession of the ACT and in pursuance of something in which I believe, I intend to vote for the disallowance of these provisions. [More…]
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I would not vote for their disallowance simply because f thought that particular way; i would nol vote for their disallowance simply because the overwhelming majority thought that way, although both of those are convincing arguments. [More…]
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But when one can sec that the 2 views coincide and that the public interest is not being adversely affected in any way - in fact, although 1 do not intend to develop this argument, it may very well be that the public interest is being enhanced by a better organised profession and that a better organised profession may very well be the profession that suits the majority of the members, which is the normal principle that one would expect to apply- one is in the position where one should vote for the disallowance of the relevant provisions, and f propose to do so on this occasion. [More…]
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I propose, therefore, to vote against it. [More…]
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Whatever the result of the vote on this regulation, it has become very obvious from the discussion that the debate was won by senators who have doubts about the regulation. [More…]
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Despite the fact that Senator Greenwood does not intend to vote for the regulation, I think in his own mind he has many doubts about it and would like to see the regulation disallowed. [More…]
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Tragically for the industry and for Australia, by a vote of about 53 per cent or 54 per cent, they overwhelmingly rejected the proposals. [More…]
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Honourable senators will remember that this was one of the problems which arose in 1965 in deciding who should have a vote, or whether big wool growers should have more votes than small wool growers. [More…]
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The proposal was rejected by a 4 to 1 vote. [More…]
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We are not prepared to vote for the amendment. [More…]
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It may be necessary when we come to the vote to separate the 3 of them because two propose to add words and the other proposes to omit words. [More…]
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I suggest, depending on your interpretation, Mr Temporary Chairman, that we vote on them together. [More…]
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I am not saying that I do not intend to vote on the amendment; I am simply not going to discuss it any further. [More…]
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It is one in which the Government has effective control in the sense, that if the Committee were to act on party lines the Government would have a casting vote through the Chairman. [More…]
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That the House of Representatives be requested to amend the Second Schedule by reducing the vote - Division 310, Department of Housing $6,314,000 - by $1 - until a national inquiry is initiated to ascertain the nation’s housing needs in the future; to identify the shortcomings of the building industry so that they may be quickly removed; to establish beyond doubt the priorities which should be observed in the provision of funds for housing; to overcome interest and deposit problems; and to provide land and housing at low cost by means of appropriate agreement between the Commonwealth, the States and local government authorities. [More…]
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(10.3) - I ask for leave to move a motion for the reconsideration of the vote on the estimates for the Department of Housing. ] [More…]
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Therefore, 1 am asking for leave to move a motion for a reconsideration of the vole on the estimates of the Department of Housing which, if leave is granted, will enable me to move that the vote on the Department of Housing be reconsidered. [More…]
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From the evidence we have before us we would imagine that both those gentlemen would have voted against our proposition, therefore the will of the Senate would have been that our motion should have been defeated instead of being carried. [More…]
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If only one of the senators who missed the division had been present the Opposition motion would have still been defeated, because the rules of the Senate relating to an equal vote are such that we would have lost the vote. [More…]
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Senator Sir Kenneth Anderson on that occasion allowed another vote to be carried on the voices, and we carried 2 motions that were pretty critical and trenchant of the Government. [More…]
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We could allow the matter to go to the vote tomorrow or allow the estimates for the Department of Housing to be reconsidered at the end of the Bill. [More…]
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We want to win votes by the will of the Senate. [More…]
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So the Opposition will not oppose another vote being taken. [More…]
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However, under this appropriation we are giving a direct vote for defence. [More…]
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We all understand that in the parliamentary sense this motion expresses a criticism of the Department of Defence in relation to the question of pay and the conditions of service.I believe that we should vote on this question and dispose of it in one way or the other. [More…]
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Therefore, in the circumstances I believe that a vote to reduce the estimate by $10 is not timely and I would say that the logical thine to do would be to put this matter to a vote. [More…]
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Having this in mind, 1 think it is logical that we now vote on the matter. [More…]
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The amount of the vote for works this year is $300. [More…]
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Secondly, there is no dissection shown of the appropriation included in the Appropriation Bills No3 1 and 2 or the Civil Works Programme which would enable a ready division of the Estimates lo show the work approved prior to the current financial year, the moneys which have been revoted and the moneys which are approved but will not be expended during the current financial year. [More…]
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The Committee is of opinion that the documents should clearly show the total vote proposed for new construction and the proportion of that amount which is to be expended in ihe ensuing year. [More…]
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Senator Keeffe will notice that under subdivision 1 the vote asked for this year is $606,000 for payments under the Defence (Re-establishment) Act. [More…]
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I refer the honourable senator to page 615 of Hansard, Senate Estimates Committee C, where I made it plain that the actual amount involved in all in the technical and university vocational training of these discharged national servicemen is about $1m and there is another vote to cover the intervening amount. [More…]
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That the House of Representatives be requested to amend the Second Schedule by reducing the vote - Divisions 230-246, Department of Education and Science, $129,478,000- by $2 - as an instruction to the Government that it should: [More…]
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Senator Wheeldon proposed that the Government establish committees - this motion to reduce the vote would be an instruction to the Government to do that - to examine and make recommendations on the objectives and quality of Australian education. [More…]
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That the House of Representatives be requested to amend the Second Schedule by reducing the vote- Divisions 270-282, Department of External Territories, $104,616,000 - by $2- as an indication to the Government that the Senate is of the opinion that recent events in the Territories of Papua and New Guinea for which the Government is responsible constitute a danger to the civil liberties and rights of the people of those Territories. [More…]
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That legislation was carried by a vote of 54 in favour and 21 against. [More…]
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Why did Pangu vote against it? [More…]
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The fact that the House of Assembly, in a free vote, adopted it by such an overwhelming majority indicated that it was what the people of the Territory wanted. [More…]
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We have been told that the Bill was carried by a vote of 54 to 21. [More…]
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I should like to see a break-down of the vote, but in any case I would say that it was an ill-considered decision. [More…]
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I do not propose to address myself to them at great length, but the Minister is trying to stop me from doing that by taking a point of order and saying that I am out of order notwithstanding the fact that following the vote that was taken other senators have referred to the matter and he has referred to it. [More…]
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That amendment sought to have the vote of the Department reduced because, as the Opposition said, recent events in the Territories for which the Government is responsible constitute a danger to civil liberties. [More…]
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Senator Murphy’s speech has been made this evening after a vote has been taken showing that the majority of honourable senators refuse to accept the imputations made by the Opposition about this Ordinance. [More…]
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As I understood the question which was put and upon which senators voted it was: Are there any requests?’. [More…]
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I understood there to be a very strong affirmative vote from all around the chamber. [More…]
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1 hope that if it is desired that the question be put the motion will be moved again when Senator Georges has finished and honourable senators will vote according to their intentions. [More…]
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So tonight we are asking for a vote to make certain that these areas are not alienated and are brought under public trust. [More…]
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If we took a vote today honourable senators would find that I would be in the majority. [More…]
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I thought I had a request but by a vote it was decide thatI had no request. [More…]
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I acknowledge the right to move that a vote be taken at any time but not a vote to say whether the Senate as a whole is to decide whether there is any request. [More…]
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Under this Division the vote for the Department of Housing last year was $508,600 but this year it is to be reduced to $283,500. [More…]
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Would save ihe recurring vote every year, i ask the Minister whether there is any prospect of this money being made available, thus saving the seemingly wasteful annual expenditure on repairs. [More…]
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I rise in response to Senator Cavanagh’s inquiry about the vote of $350,000 for the training of women under Division 861, item 01. of the estimates for the Department of Labour and National Service. [More…]
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This feeling was reflected in the tremendous vote at the referendum in 1967. [More…]
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Money could be diverted from the vote provided for immigration so that theseAboriginal people could be trained. [More…]
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In order to remind honourable senators, especially the members of the sub-committee which had occasion to examine the rather insignificant voles provided for these specialist bodies, I point out that arising out of a meeting of high educationalists in Canberra last year the Commonwealth Government accepted the proposal that there should be a general vote for research in education. [More…]
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I submit that in the administration of an annual vote of $250,000 it is much more satisfactory to rely upon ministerial responsibility supported by a detailed annual report, such as I have mentioned, than to give the direction to an independent statutory body. [More…]
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Note (2) - Norway - Norwegian legislation provides that a voter who will be prevented from personal attendance at the booths on polling day by absence from the constituency on polling day, official functions within the constituency or hospitalisation, has, in conformity with the provisions of the relevant Act the right to cast his vote in advance by delivering his ballot-paper to a vote receiver in or outside his constituency. [More…]
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Advance voting must not take place prior to the 18th day before polling day nor later than 8 p.m. on the day before polling day but must in any case take place early enough to enable the vote receiver to ensure that the ballot-paper reaches the returning officials of the constituency in question before the closure of polling. [More…]
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Persons who expect to be outside the Kingdom on polling day may cast their votes before departure or abroad. [More…]
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Note (3) - Sweden - Under the Swedish Parliamentary Elections Act and the Municipal Elections Act a person entitled to vote who. [More…]
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Kingdom, or for other reason is prevented from voting on election day at the polling station for the electoral district in which be is entered in the electoral register, may vote at a post officewithin the Kingdom, at a Swedish diplomatic or consular mission or on a Swedish vessel in foreign trade. [More…]
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Under Netherlands legislation, voters who are not ableto vote in person can vote by proxy. [More…]
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Crews of the North Sea fishing fleet can therefore delegate their right to vote to a person authorised by them. [More…]
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Persons able to act as proxy voters are the husband, wife. [More…]
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one of the relatives - from the first to the third degree, the spouse of a sisterinlaw or a brother-in-law, or any other occupant of the house where the voter resides. [More…]
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according to the electoral roll, live at the same address as the voter. [More…]
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A voter who wishes to cast his vole by proxy has to lodge a petition with the burgomaster and aldermen of the municipality where he, on the day of the nomination-, is registered on the. [More…]
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If the petition is granted, a numbered certificate (proxy-identity card) will be issued authorising the proxy voter to vote and the name of the proxy voter will be recorded. [More…]
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The fact that the voter is not permitted to vote will be recorded on the electoral roll. [More…]
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When voting, the proxy voter hands his identity card to the chairman of the polling committee. [More…]
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The second member of the committee will sign the card and record that the proxy voter has attended the polling booth. [More…]
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The proxy voter has the same rights and duties as the voter. [More…]
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I do not propose to allow the honourable senators who brought forward this motion to escape without some criticism, because although they have rightly criticised the Government for adding to the inflation and leaving the pensioners to bear the brunt of it, who was it that voted with the Government to allow the indirect taxation which they mentioned to go through? [More…]
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Who was it that voted with the Government to allow the imposts on posts and telegraphs? [More…]
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Who was it that allowed the Judiciary Bill to pass through this chamber when the Australian Labor Party voted against it? [More…]
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The Democratic Labor Party did not vote against it. [More…]
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The DLP should not criticise measures for which it voted, ft not only voted for the measures but also supported the Government at the election by means of its preferences. [More…]
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Therefore, on behalf of the Opposition, I indicate that we will support this motion and assist in bringing it to a vote instead of allowing it to lapse. [More…]
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He at least ought to vote with us tonight because on his computations as a result of the 6 per cent increase in the national wage level, now in the process of taking place, the lc profit that the pensioners were making at the end of last year - according to his figures - obviously has gone. [More…]
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Even when you have to vote on great social problems such as we have spoken about here today, you are under the nail of the Liberal Party. [More…]
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I hope it is endorsed overwhelmingly by the Senate when the vote is taken tonight. [More…]
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First of all, they can do so through the House, of Assembly, the members of which are elected by the free vote of the people and which represents the people of the Territory of Papua and New Guinea. [More…]
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Tonight members of the Labor ‘ Party are going to vote against- a motion that affirms that policy; they are going to oppose a motion passed by the United Nations, -a body whose decisions Senator Murphy said we must accept: right or wrong. [More…]
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Would the Government accept a vote of the New Guinea House of Assembly if the officially nominated members were excluded and the locally elected members were permitted to decide for themselves? [More…]
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If such a vote were taken now it is likely that the House would vote along the lines of the target dates which- have been set down by Labor, namely, self-government in 1972 and independence, in 1976? [More…]
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Tonight the Opposition has said that it will vote against affirmation of that policy. [More…]
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I therefore propose to ask the Senate to allow sufficient time in this debate for a vote to be t;i ken. [More…]
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The vote for Papua and New Guinea in the Australian Budget last year was a total of SI 26.1m. [More…]
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Yes, a direct vote of % 1 26.1m. [More…]
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However I now offer that to the Senate for a vote to be taken if honourable senators will agree with this motion that I put. [More…]
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ls there provision for the chairman ot the trustees lo hold a casting vote? [More…]
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[ therefore invite those who feel that the Executive has overridden the decision of the Senate to vote in support of the provisions of this motion. [More…]
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No vote was taken on 21st April 1970. [More…]
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It does not matter whether it was carried by one vote or by 51 votes; the fact remains that it became a decision of the Senate and should have been observed and not overridden by the Executive. [More…]
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I ask them to vote not on whether it is in the interests of Australia that merino rams should be exported but on whether they agree that the Executive has overridden the expressed wish of the Senate and therefore has been contemptuous of the parliamentary system of Australia. [More…]
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Finally a vote was- taken and the motion was carried by one vote in a General Business session of the Senate. [More…]
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In other words, no vote was taken. [More…]
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After the Senate vote had been taken the implementation of the decision to relax the ban was deferred for 9 months to give the industry an opportunity to consider it. [More…]
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Would a vote be taken of fat lamb breeders or the breeders of British breeds of sheep on a decision for the partial lifting of the embargo on the export of merino rams? [More…]
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The Labor Government of the day did not think it necessary to have a vote of the Senate or the House of Representatives. [More…]
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By an approximately 2 to’ 1 ‘vote of ils members the Conference indicated that it wanted this embargo relaxed; and’ the Government indicated that it was giving consideration to the relaxation of the- embargo. [More…]
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Is it to be every merino breeder or is it to be a vote in respect of every merino which a breeder happens to possess? [More…]
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Is one to draw any distinction between the rams and the ewes for the purpose of determining how many votes a person is to have? [More…]
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Are they entitled to have a vote? [More…]
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I dare say the view would be held by members of the Australian Labor Party that until they, too, had a vote in the referendum it would not be a fair referendum. [More…]
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To support a resolution which claims that the Government is in contemptuous disregard of Parliament just because it does not follow the viewpoint of the Senate in which the Democratic Labor Party can determine - because it must always win a vote - which will be the point of view, is not in my opinion to the merit of the Democratic Labor Party nor does it aid any concept of responsible administration. [More…]
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The debate was continued on 29th April until it reached a conclusion and a vote was taken. [More…]
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At the end of a full debate, the Senate voted in favour of it, although admittedly by only one vote. [More…]
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Already on 1 occasion the Senate has voted to oppose the lifting of the ban, and on another occasion when only members of the Opposition and members of the Democratic Labor Party had participated in the debate and had spoken in support of the ban, the matter was not taken to a vote but the indications were that if it had been the members of the Democratic Labor Parly would have voted with the Australian Labor Party and we would have had a sufficient number of votes to establish our view. [More…]
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I know certain members of the Labor Party’ who believe that the Senate should be abolished, lt is amazing that members of the Labor Party have so much to say on this issue and are so churned up about the fact that the vote of the Senate was not taken into consideration. [More…]
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If the Government does not like the proposition, let it vote against it. [More…]
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If the Democratic Labor Party does not like the proposition, let it vote against it. [More…]
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By an odd circumstance, we find ourselves in a situation in which Senator Byrne is saying: ‘We are not prepared to vote against the motion in Senator Murphy’s name at the moment, but we are prepared to wait, and we think it is logical to wait, until the Senate decides whether in fact it will have a Standing Committee on Social Environment and then decide whether this would be a suitable matter for it to examine’. [More…]
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It would still be on the notice paper; whereas if we have a vote on it tonight members of the Government parties will vote against the motion. [More…]
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I think that an examination of the whole proposal shows that there is validity in Senator Murphy’s claim that the suggested adjournment is simply another way of staving off a vote of the Senate on the point and another adjournment moved by the Australian Democratic Labor Party could be consistent with opposition to the committee system. [More…]
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Surely to God if there is a need for an inquiry into housing the Democratic Labor Party is obliged to agree to that inquiry and should not seek to defer it on the ground that it is concerned about the amount that the Treasury may be obliged to vote for the operations of a committee selected to conduct that inquiry. [More…]
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The Democratic Labor Party if it so desires, may vote against this when the vote is taken. [More…]
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Whether they are or not will be decided by the vote of Government supporters. [More…]
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The reality of this matter will be determined by the reactions of those who vote against these proposals and endeavour to sabotage the committees when they are set up. [More…]
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On that occasion the student body of the Australian National University met and, by vote, the students removed from office those who were responsible for that pornographic publication. [More…]
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It was rather unusual to find in listening to the debates in another place that members of the Australian National University Council, which includes members of the Government Parties, were in great praise of the student representatives on the Council and of the participation by the President of the Australian National ‘University Students Association who for some years has been invited to attend the Council and has all the rights of a member except the right to vote. [More…]
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In fact the Government has been convinced that they should have a vote. [More…]
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You are able to vote and talk and argue. [More…]
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All have accepted the fact that student representation on the Council, although without a vote, has provided a most useful means of communication. [More…]
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I find that, had I discussed this matter with the people whom I represent on the Council before any vote was taken on it by the Council, as their representative I would have been bound to vote in a different way from that in which I did. [More…]
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I expect and hope that we will have a debate in which all honourable senators will speak on the subject as they see it and, if a vote is taken will vote as they see fit. [More…]
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I do not want to create a position in which the Senate is forced to take a vote before it is ready. [More…]
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With the committees composed of 8 senators, the Government has had a membership of 4 senators, the Opposition 3 senators and there has been an independent member, but the casting vote has been with the Government which has provided the Chairman. [More…]
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I have tried to capture the same principle by saying that in reducing the number to 6 there should be 3 Government members, 2 members from the official Opposition and one from the Democratic Labor Party or an independent, and that a Government member shall be the chairman and shall have a casting vote, I have suggested also that the quorum of a standing committee should be 4 senators. [More…]
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I think that theory was rather fractured on the night when we had a free vote. [More…]
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On one vote there was a dead heal. [More…]
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Had its recommendations been adopted Australians would have been given an opportunity to vote, by referendum, for many changes in the Constitution. [More…]
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It is understandable, therefore, that the Senate should vote for gradualism in its own approach to the introduction of a system of Standing Committees and that it should have the benefit of experience before completing the establishment of the system. [More…]
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To this stage the Government has not been able to accept that buildings, and classrooms in particular, should be a charge to the migrant education vote. [More…]
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The Government maintains that funds for classrooms are not a proper charge to the migrant education vote for several reasons. [More…]
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Expenditure on additional classroom space is appropriately a charge to the States’ capital works votes. [More…]
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They cannot be accepted as the watchdogs of the people because they have been very loyal in their vote for the Government’s policy, which has been condemned by the Leader of the Labor Party. [More…]
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We have always accepted the fact that from time to time the Democratic Labor Party by its vote has saved the Government from defeat. [More…]
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It has been said that on the present motion we will have a free vote. [More…]
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1 have not the faintest idea what will result from a free vote, but I imagine that some hotchpotch situation will arise. [More…]
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Do not let us, by taking a vote on this motion or by’ making amendments to it, come to a conclusion which subsequently we could regret. [More…]
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On a free vote, with the DLP supporting the Government, the Senate decided to adopt the Government’s proposal. [More…]
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1 do not wish to engage in any discussion of that kind, but the total price of the product should be in front of us whenever we vote on a motion that will mean the employment of one of these committees. [More…]
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Consequently my Parly has decided that we cannot vote to increase the number of committees. [More…]
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The attitude of my Party will be different in that it will vote for the amendment. [More…]
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The Chairman will have a casting vote. [More…]
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The motion was debated on a number of occasions and when it finally came to .a vote was defeated. [More…]
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With great respect, it has nothing to do with the motion I moved and upon which we are now going to vote or the 2 subsequent motions I propose to move: [More…]
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I am not going to indicate the way I propose to vote on the motion moved by the Leader of the Government (Senator Sir Kenneth Anderson). [More…]
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If no such action is taken, should not consideration be given to having the record so marked in view of the fact that the senators are in the precincts, are available to speak and vote if required and are in fact fulfilling their parliamentary duties as required by the Senate? [More…]
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For example, if a person records more than one vote in a trade union ballot he can be fined $200 or imprisoned for 12 months or both. [More…]
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When that stabilisation scheme ran its course the fruit growers were given the opportunity to vote on whether they would like another stabilisation scheme instituted. [More…]
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But the growers were so fed up at the time that when the new proposal was put to them they voted against it. [More…]
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One of the reasons given for the defeat of the proposal was that not all the growers took advantage of the opportunity to cast a vote, and that only a minority actually voted against the scheme. [More…]
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I am sure that if such a proposal is pui to the growers they will vote for il and thereby bring some stability into the industry. [More…]
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I hope that our spirit of co-operation will be matched by Government supporters when we vote on the amendment which I shall now propose. [More…]
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On different occasions 1 have intimated that this Government was not happy about that referendum because 45 per cent of the people did not vote against proposals which would not have been possible unless there was a strong and solid opposition. [More…]
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That motion was carried by 26 votes to 22, a majority of 4, as shown at page 820 of Hansard of 23rd September 1970. [More…]
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I mentioned the vote taken on 23rd September 1970 and I now refer the Senate to a vote taken on 16th February of this year in respect of a debate on a matter of urgency, social service payments. [More…]
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The motion was moved by the Australian Democratic Labor Party supported by every member of the Australian Labor Parly, and was carried by 2S votes to 24, a majority of 4. [More…]
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I asked the Leader of the Government in the Senate when action would be taken in relation to that vote. [More…]
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It argued that the vote did not represent condemnation of the Government or a demand upon the Government. [More…]
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The Democratic Labor Party obviously must have thought along the same lines, otherwise its members, with ours, would not have continued debating this matter for hours and would not have voted as they did. [More…]
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The Government claimed that the vote meant that the Senate was required to meet 5 minutes earlier the following day. [More…]
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This was the honourable member for Herbert, the man who was not available to vote for John Gorton when he was defeated. [More…]
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Mr McMahon knows that, as a matter of habit, it will not vote Labor. [More…]
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On numerous occasions we have seen this corner Party vote against increases in pensions because it had to do so. [More…]
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It wants to get off the hook and not have to vote for an Australian Labor Party amendment. [More…]
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Senator Marriott said that he was disappointed with the levels of improvements but that he does not intend to vote against the Government. [More…]
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I think we should consider that and also provide that these matters be brought directly to a vote on the substance rather than on the question of the adjournment of the House. [More…]
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We should have a provision so that we can go to the heart of the matter, if it is a matter of public importance, and vote on it and get the consensus of the Senate. [More…]
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For those reasons I appeal to honourable senators to vote unanimously for this motion or at least vote for it in the numbers they can. [More…]
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Such a vote will obviously persuade the Government to bring these matters to the forefront of its consideration in the fiscal and budgetary discussions which are to take place within the next few weeks. [More…]
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Because we feel it is important that a vote be taken on this matter for the reasons I have indicated - that is, that the Government should be made aware of the feelings of the Senate on these situations at this time of pre-budgetary consideration - I shall move that the question be now put. [More…]
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In New South Wales at the recent election there was a big increase in the Labor vote, but it was not sufficient for Labor to form a government. [More…]
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These people were being given the democratic right to vote. [More…]
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All I know is that the bells rang because a vote was to be taken on the gagging of the debate and the Australian Labor Party decided to vote against the gagging of the debate. [More…]
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My Party did not vote against the principles enunciated in the motion of Senator Byrne. [More…]
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Australians of 20 years of age, who do not even have the right to vote, are being killed in this horrible, immoral war in Vietnam and people like Senator Sir Magnus Cormack are their murderers. [More…]
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There is the whole purpose of the vote of $400m. [More…]
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At the last meeting of the United Nations for .the first time on this question a majority vote was obtained - 51 to 49 with 25 abstentions. [More…]
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Australia supports the view that a two-thirds majority vote is required on the question of whether China can be admitted and Taiwan expelled because it is an important question. [More…]
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If that is defeated by a simple majority, the Albanian question no longer becomes an important matter and does not need a two-thirds vote. [More…]
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On the issue of whether it is an important question, 62 voted in favour of its being so regarded and 52 voted against, with 7 abstentions. [More…]
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At the October sittings of the United Nations only 8 countries need to change sides and vote for the inclusion of China on this important issue and the important issue is gone. [More…]
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On a vote of 51 to 49 they could be expelled. [More…]
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I wonder whether this new philosophy of one vote one value is creeping into the Labor Party’s foreign policy and whether it believes that representation in the United Nations should be a matter of numbers and not nations. [More…]
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At the conclusion of the debate when a vote is taken on the question of the disallowance of the ordinances, a VOl( could also be taken on the subject matter of notice of motion No. [More…]
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The whole question of the land tenure system in the Australian Capital Territory, including the administration, general conduct and handling of that system could thus be put to the vote. [More…]
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I am sorry that the debate on these matters is to be circumscribed because if we are to obtain a vote the debate must conclude by 6 p.m. this evening. [More…]
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In view of those statements, will the Leader of the Government tell the Senate whether the Australian Government has under active consideration the recognition of the People’s Republic by Australia and also whether it will vote for the admission of the People’s Republic to the United Nations? [More…]
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I think the most effective way to decide the matter is to put it to a vote. [More…]
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However, the short answer to all of this is that the vote of the Senate and the will of the Senate will determine the matter, and if the Senate determines not to sit on Friday we will have to sit a little longer. [More…]
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I know that if honourable senators opposite were allowed to have a free, secret, non-Party vote on this legislation very many of them would go along with the Government in supporting it. [More…]
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That election was won narrowly by the Australian Labor Parry, but it has been pointed out to me that in that same election the Democratic Labor Party very strongly fought the issue on the question of law and order and, although its vote was not large, it was double what it had been previously. [More…]
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I want to point out that in the Senate election which was held last year the Democratic Labor Party put law and order in the forefront of its policies and received the highest vote that it had ever received in its history. [More…]
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There is no argument against his logic but Government supporters have to vote against it because numbers count, not logic. [More…]
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A. prominent member of Federal Parliament and apparently a number of other honourable members would say to the people: ‘Vote me into Parliament to make laws for this country. [More…]
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There were some funny aspects of our visit We had secret meetings and we were all told to rush about and contact as many people as we could to persuade them to vote against China’s admission. [More…]
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I said: ‘But, Mr Ambassador, you do not expect me to do that, do you, because I have been around to try to get them to vote for China.’ [More…]
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I have one vote so far as one ground is concerned and my friend also has a vote. [More…]
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He will cancel out my vote. [More…]
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As a member of the standing committee of the great ground I can certainly tell you how my vote will go. [More…]
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I thought that the former Prime Minister would have taken the bit in his teeth, brought that chap down from Townsville and taken a vote. [More…]
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Fancy 4 or 5 people saying to me in years gone by when I had a bit of say in the Australian Labor Party that they would vote against something. [More…]
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It has always been against conservative governments until a fortnight before an election, at which time it has always, throughout its whole life, found some reason to say that people had still better vote for that government. [More…]
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Senator Kennelly, in his own inimitable way, referred to the fact that only one vote meant a change in the leadership of this country. [More…]
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Therefore I hope that Australia will heed the strength of world opinion as represented by that overwhelming General Assembly vote in which it concurred. [More…]
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We can vote for the abolition of the death penalty and for progress and humanity or we can vote against abolition and stand in the way of humanity, tolerance and understanding of the human condition. [More…]
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expenditure all expenditure has to stop, and if new circumstances arise, involving a vote, for moderate expenditure to maintain an even or stable balance in the economy, the Government should not sanction that vote and ask the Parliament to approve it. [More…]
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I refer to a proposition that seems to imply that, because the Parliament votes $10m for a specific item in a certain financial year - let us say for the building of an earthworks dam - it is not within the right of the Government to reduce that expenditure to $8m during that year. [More…]
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The idea that a vote of a certain amount for an item of work or service imposes upon the Executive an obligation to spend that amount of money is unique in constitutional experience that has come to my knowledge, and I challenge any honourable senator to provide a precedent for it. [More…]
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There could be a power within the Treasurer to suggest that a vote be frozen. [More…]
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I suggest that if an amount of $322,000- that will be $332,000 if this vote is passed - is to be expended on legal expenses, perhaps some outside people could be used to advise the Department on its constitutional problems and so have them settled, because some of the questions have been before the AttorneyGeneral’s Department for more than 2 years without an answer being supplied. [More…]
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The explanatory note says that the reason for the increased provision under this vote is the extension of charter aircraft co-ordinated services now operative in the Northern Territory. [More…]
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Following the overwhelming vote of the people the then Prime Minister, Mr Holt, judged that initially the administration by the Commonwealth of Aboriginal Affairs should be within the Prime Minister’s responsibility. [More…]
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But if there is a majority in this Senate which is not interested in knowing the limits of the Bill and which probably is determined that no opportunity will be given to senators to know how this Bill can be used, then the senators concerned will not vote for my proposal. [More…]
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The Opposition will resist this Bill and vote against it at every stage. [More…]
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He may get their support by vote but 1 do not think that, in view of their attitude that political issues should not be translated out of this chamber, in their hearts they would support their leader in his attitude to this Bill. [More…]
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Is the Labor Party again going to vote against this clause in preference to what exists at the present time? [More…]
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I repeat what I said before the suspension of the sitting that I think it is incumbent upon members of the Opposition, if they vote against this provision as they intend to do in the light of what has been said, to justify how they prefer to maintain a more onerous and severe provision than the one which is to be inserted. [More…]
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If they do vote against it, I think it merely proves that there is hollowness in the plea that they are opposing this measure at every stage, because opposition just for the sake of opposition without intelligence or reason does not, I think, indicate a standard of judgment which behoves the Opposition. [More…]
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Senator Cavanagh says that they both give him concern, but all I say is that if the language of the clause which is now before the Senate is clearer than the language of the existing provisions, and if the penalty ultimately is a different and lesser penalty than what is in the present statutes in the States, why - 1 challenge Senator Cavanagh as I challenge any member of the Opposition - is the Labor Party proposing to vote against this clause? [More…]
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Now that my Leader has indicated that Senator Hannan will vote for the proposed amendment, I am sure that he will do so. [More…]
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I submit that when we come to vote on the clause we will be voting on the whole clause as amended. [More…]
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We are prepared to vote to provide for offences for any person who commits physical violence, who commits damage to property, who threatens to do that or attempts to do that; but why should we be [More…]
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I want them to think for one moment and ask themselves why, in 1971, they would vote for this clause. [More…]
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If so, I would anticipate that when we come to vote he will cross the floor to vote with the Opposition for the elimination of this dangerous clause, and I submit that it is a most dangerous clause. [More…]
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Now that the Committee has taken that vote, it is apparent that clause 8 is going to be administered in the context where the citizen who comes under the scope of the provision will not be able to appeal to the commonsense, the wisdom and reasonable standards of his fellows in a jury trial. [More…]
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This is one of the worst clauses in the Bill and the Opposition will vote against it. [More…]
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As I understand, apart from indicating that we should vote on the amendment which has just been decided, he had not previously spoken to this clause, and when he rose on this occasion he instanced as one of the dreadful things to be said against this clause that the citizen will not have a right to go to a jury. [More…]
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At this stage I enter into the debate because of the remarks which were made earlier by the Minister for Health (Senator Greenwood) who in this chamber represents the Attorney-General (Mr N. H. Bowen) when replying to Senator Murphy after a vote had been taken on an amendment which had been moved by my colleague Senator James McClelland. [More…]
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Indeed, it suggests that there should be a vote on the matter. [More…]
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Before this clause is put to a vote I shall make a brief comment on it. [More…]
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Let it be clear that the Opposition voted against not only the leaving out of the clause but also the insertion of the other clause. [More…]
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We propose to vote against the sub-clause as it stands for the reason that we have indicated. [More…]
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We oppose the remainder of the clause and we will vote against it, but we do not seek to divide the Committee once more. [More…]
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Are they going to vote against an amendment at which no criticism can be levelled and which is necessary to preserve the rights of a defendant? [More…]
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Consistently with what we did before and to show that we will in no way accept that the Government ought to be able to push on to the public servant the exercise of discretion in these matters - we say that the Government ought to accept the responsibility itself and that the traditional role of the Attorney-General ought to be maintained - we will vote against this clause. [More…]
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I want to indicate that we have opposed not only the first motion, which was to take out words; we have also opposed on the voices the last proposition, although we did not vote. [More…]
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We intend to vote against the clause as it now stands for the reason of the insertion, but we will not divide the Committee. [More…]
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We feel compelled to vote against the clause because no satisfactory explanation has been given. [More…]
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We will vote against the clause. [More…]
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I think everybody in this chamber will agree with me when I say that I have always taken the view that I should express myself according to what I think and vote accordingly. [More…]
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One attempts to impress one’s opponents; but one never changes a vote. [More…]
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I have been listening to this debate with a great deal of interest, and 1 note that all those who have spoken have expressed concern at the passage of the measure, but certainly it is only the Opposition senators who will vote against the proposal. [More…]
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After all, according to newspaper reports the former Prime Minister was defeated in his own Party room only by his own vote. [More…]
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At the same time I deprecate the capacity of another section of the Parliament to vote separately, secretly and hurriedly to enforce its will on the Party and marry itself to the bureaucracy in order to impose its will on the community. [More…]
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Mr President, in the years that you have been here have you known of any occasion when a vote on a serious measure has been taken that the Liberal and Country Party members have not toed the line? [More…]
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The difference is that the Australian Labor Party has spoken against the Bill and will vote against it. [More…]
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When I look at annex B to the Agreement - I find that the voting rights of the various governments to come to an agreement on this world marketing situation are such that 1,000 votes are allocated to the consuming countries. [More…]
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Almost onethird of the votes that are available to the consuming countries are allocated to the United States of America. [More…]
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Under article 46 300 votes are required from the consuming countries to bring the International Tin Agreement into operation. [More…]
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The United States, by her own vote, can bring the Agreement into operation providing 950 votes are available from the producing countries. [More…]
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She is able to control it because she has one-third of the votes of the consuming countries. [More…]
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She is able to bring it into force by having the surplus of the votes of the consuming countries. [More…]
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The matter was actually brought to a vote. [More…]
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The question was put and a vote was taken. [More…]
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Certainly the discussions were valuable but the putting to a vote of the simple proposition that the Senate meet 5 minutes earlier than normal was not doing anyone any good at all. [More…]
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Now is the time for the Democratic Labor Party to vote with the Australian Labor Party and put this Government on notice. [More…]
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The Senate voted in favour of that motion. [More…]
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On 21st April the Australian Democratic Labor Party moved another urgency motion dealing with child endowment but, because of the action of the Opposition, a vote was not taken on that motion. [More…]
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My Party endeavoured to get a vote on it. [More…]
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The Opposition has moved the gag on many occasions with a view to getting a vote on its proposals. [More…]
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Therefore the Leader of the Opposition should not pretend to be so pure on this matter of getting a vote on an urgency motion. [More…]
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We did not allow the matter to remain with a favourable vote in the Senate. [More…]
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What is it that has prompted Senator Murphy and his Party, who have prevented us from getting a favourable vote in this Senate on child endowment? [More…]
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But when it came to a vote on the issue, what did the Opposition do? [More…]
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They “would not vote against it. [More…]
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Can honourable senators and the public wonder why I do not place any confidence in Senator Murphy’s attempt on this occasion to threaten the Government and to threaten to vote against the Budget? [More…]
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In the event of my Party and i agreeing to Senator Murphy’s amendment, what guarantee have I that he will carry through his action and that he will not walk out and take his Party with him as he did when it came to a vote on the postal charges? [More…]
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That reminds me that when the Budget was before the Senate last year the Opposition did not vote against the social service section of the Budget. [More…]
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Members of the Opposition did not ask for the withdrawal of it and they did not vote against it until it came to the increases in postal charges, when they voted against the Budget in the interests of publishers and others who were to be affected by the increased postal charges. [More…]
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If other honourable senators oppose the contents of a Bill they can vote against it at the first reading, second reading or third reading stages if necessary but it is a traditional courtesy to allow the Bill to be placed on the notice paper. [More…]
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He decides that the Opposition will not approve of the gag in order to get a vote on the proposal of the Democratic Labor Party in regard to child endowment. [More…]
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They did this because the leaders of their Party in another place had said that they could not vote against a money Bill. [More…]
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He can indicate by his vote whether he feels that any other party would do any better than the Government is doing. [More…]
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They are well known to everybody and from time to time vote against the Government on minor matters. [More…]
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I went on further to say that not only would we vote against the Budget papers being printed, because that would not be realistic, but also we would vote against every provision in the Budget. [More…]
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Let us vote for or against the motion that the Bill be now read a second time, which would decide whether or not postal increases would go into effect. [More…]
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There are 1,000 votes held by the countries which are exporters and 1,000 votes held by countries which are importers. [More…]
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One interesting feature is that the European Economic Community is both an exporter and an importer so it has a double vote. [More…]
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The EEC controls 252 of the 2,000 votes. [More…]
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Canada controls 280 votes based on the amount of wheat that it normally has for export. [More…]
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The United States has the same number of votes. [More…]
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Australia has 100 votes. [More…]
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I was just briefly making the point that as the vote this financial year for scholarships alone is $44m it reinforces the submission made by Senator Little that we all should accept responsi bility for ensuring that the money is used for the purpose of obtaining scholarship from our student population and not larrikinism. [More…]
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I take it from the comments of Senator O’Byrne that the Opposition intends to vote against both the Customs Tariff Bill and the Customs Tariff Validation Bill. [More…]
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Indeed, it will vote for it. [More…]
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The Democratic Labor Party will vote for the validation of this Bill because there is no alternative in the interests of the cherry growers. [More…]
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I would like to make one or two comments before we proceed to a vote. [More…]
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With that comment, I think we should now vote on the Bill. [More…]
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The Australian Democratic Labor Party will support the Bill and it will oppose and vote against the amendment moved by Senator Wilkinson on behalf of the Australian Labor Party. [More…]
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When this amendment is formally presented and comes before the Senate for decision,I will ask leave of the Senate that paragraphs (a) and (b) be taken together as 1 question and that the third part of the proposition be presented as a separate question for registration of a separate vote by the Senate. [More…]
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There has already been a vote taken on that but I feel that this is a matter on which there should be insistence and reinsistence. [More…]
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Yes, they voted against our amendment on 7th May last year. [More…]
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If the majority of the members of the Country Party and one or two members of the Liberal Party want the Commonwealth to retire from the area of estate duty they will vote for the amendment, but the Opposition believes that an examination should be made of the whole question of estate duty. [More…]
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We will not vote for the amendment which asks the Commonwealth to retire from the area of estate duty without making an examination of the whole question. [More…]
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The Australian Democratic Labor Party will vote for the amendment and probably 4 or 5 Government senators will cross the floor and vote for it. [More…]
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If I can digress for one further moment, I suppose honourable senators opposite would agree with me when they look at the results of the gallup poll of a fortnight ago which shows that the Liberal vote has shot up from a miserable 38 per cent to 45 per cent in its own right. [More…]
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Allowing for a reasonable assessment of preferential allocations, it would now appear that 55 per cent of Australian voters support the present Government. [More…]
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We will vote against this receipts tax legislation because it has inequitable implications for the States, particularly, Victoria. [More…]
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It is true that a vote was taken on that amendment but no division was called for. [More…]
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We believe that if the tribunals were so constituted, with the chairman of course having the casting vote, their work would be in no way impeded but in reaching his determinations the chairman would have the benefit of the advice of people from each side of the record. [More…]
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It is incorrect to say, when such consideration has been given to the legislation and we have the attitude of the Opposition in supporting the measure - no vote at all having been taken on any issue in the legislation - that the Opposition is not supporting it. [More…]
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I shall merely submit my amendment to the Defence Forces Retirement Benefits Bill to a vote in due course. [More…]
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Ballot papers will be distributed to honourable senators, each of whom is requested to write upon the paper handed to him the name of the candidate for whom he desires to vote. [More…]
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Sir Magnus Cormack) - Honourable senators, by your vote you have chosen me to be your Presiding Officer. [More…]
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Ballot papers will be distributed to honourable senators, each of whom is requested to write upon the paper handed to him or to her the name of the candidate for whom he or she desires to vote. [More…]
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suggest that when consideration is being given or a vote is to be taken on amendments- to Bills all members of the Senate be taken into the confidence of the Chairman or Temporary Chairman and informed of what is going on. [More…]
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T do not say that this situation occurred during the last session because the only time the Government attempted to do that a Government supporter crossed the floor to vote with the Opposition and another Government supporter threatened to cross the floor if the Government tried to do this again. [More…]
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I could have stood on my dignity today and forced a vote on the issue and I would have had the numbers to support my viewpoint. [More…]
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The truth remains that the United Kingdom Government itself is still in the grip of disputation which is taking place throughout the nation over the proposals for British entry into the European Economic Community and, if I understand the situation, will not take a definitive decision on it until some time in October this year when there will be a special line vote in the House of Commons. [More…]
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What was the report on the result of the study conducted by the University of Melbourne, referred to in paragraph 507 of the 22nd Annual Report of the Australian Broadcasting Control Board relating to the part played by broadcasting and television in influencing the vote in the 1969 Federal Elections? [More…]
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The continuation of the study, dealing with the effect of the 2 media on the vote of the sample in the 1969 Federal Election is peripheral to the Board’s main interest and will not be published by the Board. [More…]
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The Australian Labor Party will vote against this motion in order to indicate its disapproval of the statement which is included in the motion as the reason for its being dealt with urgently by the Senate. [More…]
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We will vote for whomever is right’. [More…]
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One of them has not yet been achieved, that is one vote one value. [More…]
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To this day only some of the trade union members vote for the Labor Party; not all of them, by a long way. [More…]
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justice, does not vote DLP. [More…]
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At election time its members go through the pretence of asking the people to vote for them, giving electors the misguided idea that in the Parliament and through the Government they would determine the political decisions to be made. [More…]
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If I speak any longer I - will deny the Senate an opportunity to vote on the issue by supporting the motion. [More…]
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In other words we are having this motion in the after effects of the clash which happened in the other place when the motion was put down and a vote was taken. [More…]
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The vote was defeated without any variation in normal party affiliations. [More…]
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Since members of the Opposition constitute the official Opposition they have the right to move their various members from office to office as they see fit according to their own procedures and by their vote. [More…]
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In the minute and a half which I have left I would say that it has been demonstrated by the vote in the other place yesterday that the Government has solidarity. [More…]
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AH its supporters voted with it against the motion that was proposed by the Opposition. [More…]
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I hope that the Senate will not vote for this motion of disallowance. [More…]
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Therefore, they represent a very big proportion of the Tasmanian vote. [More…]
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The Government would have a membership of 5 out of the 10 and it would have the right of a casting vote if a vote were taken. [More…]
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He wanted to get the view of the Senate on that matter and it was, by agreement, brought to a vote. [More…]
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We want to register a vote on it. [More…]
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We should have a vote. [More…]
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I also think that we should insert in the Standing Orders - I am not as dogmatic on this - a provision that at the end of the time allotted for the debate the question should be put to a vote so that we do not have to go through the procedure of gagging the debate on all these matters. [More…]
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The vote will not be a party vote, but I think we would be better off if we had that provision inserted. [More…]
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We would have to put the question to a vote. [More…]
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We would then be able to vote on the issue. [More…]
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We should make up our minds whether we vote on all issues or on none. [More…]
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If we decide to vote on each motion, this puts the Government in a spot. [More…]
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I would like to see Senator Murphy’s proposals implemented, but I think it should be stated formally that either we vote on every urgency motion or we do not vote on any urgency motion. [More…]
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Senator Murphy has announced that Opposition senators will have a free vote on this matter and that there will not be a Party vote. [More…]
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I understand also that members of the Democratic Labor Party are not bound by any instruction on questions relating to the Standing Orders and that they also will have a free vote. [More…]
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I gather from the remarks made by the Leader of the Government in the Senate (Senator Sir Kenneth Anderson) that the same situation applies in the Government parties, that there will be a free vote on this question. [More…]
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A vote need not be taken. [More…]
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But perhaps we obtain satisfaction when, we force a vote and say: We won that.’ [More…]
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Therefore we have developed the habit of putting a matter to the vote - sometimes by moving the gag - for the purpose of obtaining an expression pf opinion. [More…]
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This proposed amendment permits the support of a motion being tested by a vote, although the motion has no meaning other than that we start a few minutes earlier the following day. [More…]
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If the amendment succeeds we are in a situation where this chamber, by virtue of a vote which is compulsory, is asked to decide an issue which, if paragraph No. [More…]
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I disagree with the system which has been adopted of forcing votes by giving only 1 minute’s notice of the gag. [More…]
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On many occasions they use this view to dodge a vote on vital issues. [More…]
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He made out a good argument in support of his case by saying that when you do not give notice the Government, which has extra responsibility in the House, has not the opportunity to consult departments in order to come up with the answers and it could be forced into a vote on which it could easily be defeated and so fall into conflict with the other House, and that type of thing. [More…]
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On rare occasions they have voted with us to apply the gag, but on most occasions they have voted with the Government. [More…]
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Matters such as those we are considering should go to the vote on every occasion or should not go to the vote on any occasion. [More…]
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We should not be placed in the situation where, because of the whim of some people, a vote is taken on one occasion and a vote is not taken on another occasion. [More…]
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The Senate in its wisdom decided, apparently unanimously,” that the motion for adjournment should be carried without a vote being taken. [More…]
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The motion for adjournment was .passed on a division, after Senator Bishop’s suggestion that the question bc put to a vote. [More…]
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I presume from the fact that the vote was carried that the DLP supported the Labor Party. [More…]
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Senator Wilkinson moved the closure of the debate on that occasion so that a vote could be taken. [More…]
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It is not one which says that there is an automatic vote. [More…]
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I indicated I would put that proposition later, and I think it will come under 2 items further along so do riot let us get confused over whether there should be an automatic vote. [More…]
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Should we debate the matter of urgency and put it to a vote on the real proposition, or do we have the nonsense that we debate whether we adjourn the House until 5 minutes to 11 or some other time the next morning? [More…]
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The question whether it will be put may depend on the vote of the Senate. [More…]
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We will come later to the question of whether there should be an automatic vote or whether the position should be left exactly as it is at present in regard to the Senate deciding whether a vote should be taken. [More…]
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If it is felt that a definitive resolution is required forms are provided by which a vote can be achieved. [More…]
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If Senator Kane’s motion had been put to a vote in such a way as to determine whether the Senate approved the matter he had raised it would have been more effective, would have been more important and would have achieved some purpose. [More…]
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If honourable senators want to take part in a debate and cannot get onto the list of speakers, they should have the opportunity to register their opinion by vote. [More…]
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I would ask the Minister for Works (Senator Wright) to consider whether it would be possible to insert a clause providing that no vote shall be taken on a matter of urgency. [More…]
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Vote on subject matter. [More…]
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1 rise in the hope that we can obtain a vote on this matter before half past 10 if the Senate is so minded without compressing the debate at all. [More…]
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Can he inform the Senate whether his proposal today is to facilitate another vote on the motion to disallow the Evidence Ordinance, that is, a vote on the same matter as the vote last Thursday, or is he proposing that the Standing Orders should be so arranged or amended as to enable him to introduce an ordinance having exactly the same provisions as the one disallowed last Thursday? [More…]
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Will he tell me, for the clarification of my own mind on this question, whether it is a fact that having taken a vote last Thursday, which was the last day upon which the Senate could act on that ordinance, no further action can be taken on that ordinance? [More…]
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Is the convention to be that the Assistant Ministers must vote with the Government? [More…]
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Do we regard him as a member of the Ministry who simply must not vote against the Government? [More…]
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Is he bound to vote with it? [More…]
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If he votes against the Government will this be a repudiation and will he automatically put himself outside the Ministry. [More…]
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He suggested that the appointment of Assistant Ministers would make the structure of government monolithic, that it would add to centralisation and that it would raise the question of whether a person who was an Assistant Minister was obliged by convention to vote with the Government. [More…]
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As if that were a matter which would be of concern to members of the Australian Labor Party, particularly as it never gives its members the right to vote contrary to the Party’s wishes! [More…]
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I think it is fair to suppose, therefore, that a number of honourable senators in this chamber may have cast their vote on the assumption that the consequences which were to ensue were of the character which I had mentioned and not of the serious nature which in fact has subsequently transpired. [More…]
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I indicate that we propose to vote against this motion because it merely illustrates the determination of the AttorneyGeneral to show that last Thursday night he, not the Senate, was right. [More…]
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We voted against the original motion. [More…]
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Obviously the Government is hoping that it can buy one of us over to vote for this motion so that it can get the original resolution rescinded. [More…]
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At least I vote for myself and I can talk for myself. [More…]
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Therefore, I am maintaining my vote in opposition. [More…]
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Today we have the opportunity to rescind this vote so that the pride of the Minister and the pride of his Department can be upheld. [More…]
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We are now waiting to see whether the triumph of the Government is to be made complete by seducing one of the voters in this section of the chamber from his previous conviction so as to support the Minister- The Minister could say straight out: ‘Right, here is a simple solution from the Leader of the Opposition and we will accept it - the measure will be passed tonight, be sent to the other place and go to the Executive Council tomorrow morning. [More…]
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Therefore, I want to make it quite clear that for all those reasons I will stick to my vote and 1 will oppose this motion, lt the AttorneyGeneral said - and he has not done so yet; at least I did not hear him - that sonic injustice is being done 1 will change my vote. [More…]
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Nevertheless if the Minister can show that some injustice is really being done to these people 1 will change my vote. [More…]
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For that reason I will vote against the proposal. [More…]
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I want to make one point: Senator Turnbull referred to the fact that on the motion for disallowance the other day the independent members of the Senate, including 2 new members, voted in favour of the disallowance. [More…]
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Senator Turnbull used a phrase something like: ‘1 do not think they would be so chicken hearted as to change their vote in relation to the motion now before the chamber.’ [More…]
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Therefore if he wishes to enter into this debate and to indicate, if he wishes to change his vote, why he taas changed his vote and by what arguments he is persuaded, he is by the custom of this place stopped from doing o. [More…]
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If on this occasion the gentlemen con cerned elected to find a different home tor their vote from the one they chose the other day, it would be very unfair to suggest in any sense that it was because of a lack of courage or anything that did not register the highest motive in the gentlemen concerned. [More…]
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Ali I say to the honourable senators concerned is that if out of the discussion which has taken place in the Senate and on the ebb and flow of argument or on the presentation of matter by the AttorneyGeneral or any other honourable senator they are now convinced to the contrary position from that which they held the other day then it is quite proper - it is possibly the most proper thing - for them to vote accordingly. [More…]
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Again the honourable senators to whom I referred, more particularly those gentlemen who themselves cannot speak as I am speaking here in relation to their vote, should allow themselves to be persuaded by the arguments as they ebb and flow in this place and should have no hesitation, if they feel convinced, in voting accordingly, irrespective of what happened the other day. [More…]
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But I must say that over the recent period Senator Gair and other members of the Democratic Labor Party by their vote in this chamber have supported the policies of this Government which have acted against the interests of the people of Australia. [More…]
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Apparently at Launceston, by a unanimous vote of the Labor Party Conference, it abandoned its proposal to take for Canberra complete and unqualified power over everything and to unify the country. [More…]
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That vote for the States has increased from $2,400m in round figures 2 years ago to $3, 200m this year - in other words, an increment of 33$ per cent in 2 years. [More…]
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Consequently in a tight Budget we find that last year’s vote of $3 15m has been increased this year to $355m. [More…]
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The increased vote for education this year brings our direct expenditure on education to $346m. [More…]
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In a real sense the defence vote is the insurance premium that a nation is prepared to pay to cover future contingencies and threats to its national survival. [More…]
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It is true that in monetary terms the defence vote has gone up by 10.3 per cent, that is, by $117m. [More…]
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What is the background against which the defence vote must be judged? [More…]
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Despite the defence increase in monetary terms, the true position is that the defence vote expressed as a percentage of the gross national product will now fall to 3.21 compared with 4.28 in 1967-68 and 3.23 last year. [More…]
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That the inadequate defence vote reveals the Government’s failure to appreciate the deterioration in Australia’s strategic situation caused by recent world events including failure to provide the necessary, supply and logistic support programme; [More…]
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If the arguments raised this evening by Government speakers have any validity, I do not believe that any senator has an alternative but to vote for the Bill. [More…]
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Our prerogative is to vote whichever way we feel we should vote. [More…]
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It is up to them to decide which way they will vote. [More…]
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Each has his own opinion and votes accordingly. [More…]
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When he was defeated on that and when a proposition which would enable him to do exactly what he asked was put, he voted against it. [More…]
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It seeks to rescind a resolution of the Senate and to revoke a discipline imposed by vote of this chamber on 2 citizens of this country and the people they represented. [More…]
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The Australian Labor Party will vote against this motion but not press it to a division because the Senate has already made up its mind on the first motion. [More…]
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We remember that famous vote in the not too distant past when he was able to carry with him only 33 people. [More…]
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Because I do not belong to any political party I can quite safely vote against this proposition. [More…]
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If the Senate is to fulfil its function as a house of review its members should be free to vote according to their wishes, but no Minister will vote against anything the Government has brought down. [More…]
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Ministers are obliged to vote for the Government. [More…]
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I am not prepared to support Senator Murphy’s amendment, but I will vote against the taking note of the paper in order to register the fact that I do not support the appointment of Assistant Ministers. [More…]
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I hope that this matter will be disposed of, if necessary by vote, so that we can get on with the job. [More…]
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It is not a matter on which a party can decide how its members should vote. [More…]
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I think that Senator Cavan agh, who has some sensitivity in this field, would agree with my proposition that this is a matter on which individual senators would feel disposed, obliged and entitled to cast a free vote according to the evidence displayed before them or the principles they thought should be followed in this case. [More…]
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I would hope that the whole party would vote for it, but I would hope that in doing so honourable senators would vote as individuals. [More…]
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In other words, I hope that they would not vote as a party but that all members of a party would look the same way if it were established that there had been a denial of natura! [More…]
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This Budget provides for an increase of $117m in the defence vote or an increase of 10 per cent. [More…]
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If any honourable senator believes that he can get all his State colleagues to vote for an acquisition scheme which will affect the electorate of each member, I think the time would then be ripe for an acquisition scheme. [More…]
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The sooner the Australian people have an opportunity to vote at the ballot boxes, after a double dissolution, if necessary, the better it will be for Australia. [More…]
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I thank the hundreds of supporters who distributed election literature prior to polling day and assisted in the distribution of how-to-vote cards at the polling booths. [More…]
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It was a free vote. [More…]
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In the Labor Party we have a free vote on social issues. [More…]
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But many members on both sides of the Parliament voted against the abortion legislation. [More…]
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The members pf the Democratic Labor Party have their own dispositions on this matter, and I am not aware of how they propose to vote. [More…]
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Some comment was made, a couple of years after the vote had been taken and capital punishment had been abolished, on the situation that had developed. [More…]
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I suggest that we would be wise to vote as a Senate that capital punishment be retained under the laws of the Commonwealth. [More…]
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At the moment there are about 3 Opposition senators present who are so keenly interested in this Bill that they want a vote taken on it tonight. [More…]
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I shall support the vote at any time for (he abolition of capital punishment in Australia or in any other place where I have any opportunity to play a part in the decision. [More…]
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When the absence of any argument in favour of the Bill from honourable senators opposite was raised earlier in the debate we were told, that they were not interested in debating - they were interested in getting a vote. [More…]
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In the extraordinary event of honourable senators opposite ever being in government when they come into this chamber are they going to be interested only in obtaining a vote? [More…]
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We want a vote. [More…]
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I am not afraid of a vote. [More…]
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Although some Government supporters were very vocal in their opposition to the excise duty, when it came to the critical vote on whether the excise would be imposed, unfortunately they supported the’ measure. [More…]
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My information is that Mr N. H. Bowen abstained from casting a vote, which was his right under the charter of. [More…]
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That the inadequate defence vote reveals the Government’s failure to appreciate the deterioration in Australia’s strategic situation caused by recent world events including failure to provide the necessary supply and logistic support programme; [More…]
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Actually, the Defence vote covers the ancillary services of Navy, Army, Air, as well as Supply and General Services. [More…]
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When we look at these figures individually we find that the vote for the Department of Defence i& he smallest. [More…]
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That the inadequate defence vote reveals the Government’s failure to appreciate the deterioration in Australia’s strategic situation . [More…]
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In short, if the Opposition is genuine in what it claims to stand for, it would have no alternative but to vote for the amendment. [More…]
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But as it has done in the past, it will vote against the amendment. [More…]
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They leave this place as the poor little babes in the wood after seeing everybody else in the Senate vote against what I say is the phoniness of this amendment. [More…]
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The other members of the Democratic Labor Party are new to me, but, as I have said and as I shall repeat again,, although I have heard them speaking passionately about great humanitarian causes, every : time the Australian Labor Party presents them with an opportunity to put their vote where it can do some good for the people that they are allegedly concerned about they continually reject Labor’s proposal. [More…]
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I say again that if there had not been a vote of no confidence in this Government earlier this year the original 50c increase would not have been granted. [More…]
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This Conference recommends that the Party and its various groups such as the Parliamentary Parties should take a non-party attitude and vote according to their conscience on the issue of abortion law reform. [More…]
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This gives each and every member of the Australian Labor Party the right to vote on any abortion law or any social reform law according to the way his conscience dictates. [More…]
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Many members of the Australian Labor Party voted against the Bill, including the Deputy Premier of South Australia, Mr Des Corcoran, and the Minister for Agriculture, Mr Tom Casey. [More…]
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Again I say that this platform gives every member of the Labor Party the right to vote according to the dictates of his conscience. [More…]
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I should be able to discuss these 2 amendments even if we do not vote on the 2 because each one affects the other. [More…]
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I thought we had decided that there was to be a free vote. [More…]
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I hope they will vote according to their consciences. [More…]
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In my recollection of the short time that I have been a member of the Senate, the 3 hours which are allowed for an urgency debate have always been used to the full, except perhaps for the last 3 or 4 minutes when we have been endeavouring to obtain a vote. [More…]
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I know that on this matter there is to be a free vote. [More…]
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I am thoroughly opposed to the breaking down of any debating time in this place or in any House of any Parliament in this country and I propose to vote for the status quo. [More…]
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As Senator Gair said, this will be a typical example of how time can be wasted in discussing this subject tonight, but 1 think that in this wasting of time an important argument has been raised as a justification of why we should vote to take away the rights that senators now have and why we should restrict rights which normally would not be restricted. [More…]
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Those who are determined to vote for the amendment and to take away the rights of senators should at least put their argument on some sounder basis than the one on which they have presented it, namely, on the volume of business on the notice paper. [More…]
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I am going to vote to retain the 30 minutes and the 15 minutes and then I am going to desert the supporters of those proposals and vote for an overall time of 2 hours. [More…]
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I believe that we should either have a vote always on these matters or never have a vote on them so that we do not go through the schemozzles that we have experienced. [More…]
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I sincerely trust that honourable senators will reconsider the way in which they voted recently. [More…]
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Technically, I think the vote was taken on the question of whether the time should not exceed 30 minutes or 20 minutes. [More…]
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He said that the Australian Democratic Labor Party would vote in a certain way. [More…]
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We were of the opinion that on this matter there would be an open vote and that honourable senators would be permitted to vote according to their conscience without receiving instructions from their Party. [More…]
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When the last vote was taken we saw that the Democratic Labor Party followed Senator Byrne. [More…]
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If they voted according to their consciences then their consciences led in that direction. [More…]
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Nevertheless, in complete conformity with the undertaking we gave we voted according to our consciences. [More…]
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I voted as my conscience dictated I should vote. [More…]
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But in relation to the other Parties in this chamber there is a Party direction or a solid Party vote on the matter. [More…]
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He does not know whether the matter was carried with only myself dissenting or carried by one vote or by the casting vote of the Chair. [More…]
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But when the vote was taken all Government members on the Committee voted against the Committee’s recommendation. [More…]
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Senator Cotton put some obligation on Government supporters today to vote against the amendment because of a decision of the Committee a week ago, but on the last occasion on which such a matter as this was discussed all Government supporters voted contrary to the recommendation of the Committee. [More…]
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The Party that has been torn apart in this debate is the Labor Party because it is the only one which has struck to principles and the only one to honour the agreement about a free vote on this particular question. [More…]
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If we are to accept the argument and vote according to the report of the Committee, I might ask what has happened to the very many fine select committee reports which have come before this chamber and have been presented to the Government but which have never been acted upon. [More…]
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I understand that in this debate there is to be a free vote, but judging from the last division which took place it is amazing how many senators on the one side of the chamber appear to hold the same view. [More…]
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Of course it might be that they are unanimous in their opinions, but it seems rather strange to me that such a thing happened when we had what is termed a free vote. [More…]
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So far as I am concerned a free vote is one in which a person exercises his conscience. [More…]
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I exercise my freedom of conscience at all time and, therefore, I do not require a special free vote. [More…]
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I understand that on this occasion it was announced that was to be a free vote, so the attitude adopted rather surprised me. [More…]
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Like Senator Wood, I am rather worried that this so called free vote was not a free vote, ft was rather inspiring, in fact, to see a solid block vote in one section and some confusion in another section. [More…]
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On the last occasion that these matters were discussed the Minister then in charge of the proposed amendments - the Government soon will run out of Ministers who want to present the proposals - spoke to them and immediately led all of those behind him to vote against them, i can remember ordinances that have been opposed by notice of disallowance coming into the House with the full connivance of the Regulations and Ordinances Committee, and when the recommendations have been discussed Government members, including some Committee members who agreed on the disallowance, opposed it in the Senate. [More…]
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If we thought that the setting up of an independent tribunal would automatically solve the problem we would vote for the amendment. [More…]
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I cannot understand why previously the DLP did not vote for our proposed inquiry because, if our motion had been carried here and in another place, the DLP might well have got at least a step nearer to the fulfilment of the proposition that it has been putting in this place for some time. [More…]
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By majority vote, the Senate was subsequently called together to deal with the regulations that were introduced. [More…]
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They walked out of the chamber and left the DLP and Senator Turnbull here to vote against the measures. [More…]
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It ill becomes him to charge me with dishonesty in this connection when he was a party to bringing the Senate back to debate the increased postal charges and then, when the matter was brought to a head, he and his colleagues were Isd by the nose, as it were, from this chamber and they refused to vote against those measures. [More…]
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At this stage the Senate had not voted on the motion for the second reading of the Bill; we had dealt only with the amendments. [More…]
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When it came to the motion for the second reading the Labor Party voted solidly against the motion, but the Democratic Labor Party voted in favour of the proposed increased charges. [More…]
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On that occasion also the vote was 24 to 22. [More…]
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1 think I should bring to the attention of honourable senators that the Democratic Labor Party, and particularly Senator Gair, campaigned in Queensland during the last Senate election campaign and made as a particular point their opposition to increased post and telegraph charges, but when the issue came down to a vote they did not oppose the increase. [More…]
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When an Opposition1, Which” would claim to be the alternative government of this country, is prepared ‘-to say that it will vote against a measure, I think it is incumbent upon its members to’ say why they should vote against it and what they would put in its place. [More…]
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Whoever votes for the proposed amendment votes for the Bill and the increased charges. [More…]
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But, obviously, when we have said that we are opposed to these increased rates and that we will not vote for this legislation, we cannot support this amendment, because it seeks to add certain words at the end of the motion “That the Bill be now read a second time’. [More…]
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This means that if we voted for this amendment we would be voting for this Bill and therefore for the increased charges, and that is exactly the opposite of what we want to do. [More…]
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I advise those people who wish to support the increases in postal charges to vote for Senator Gair’s amendment. [More…]
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For those grievous reasons I will vote against this Bill. [More…]
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I propose to vote in support of the Bill. [More…]
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I am speaking only because I understand that the vote on the Bill is to be a free vote and because it would be reasonable for me to express a view about the [More…]
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On this side of the chamber this measure has been treated as a serious matter requiring debate and one concerning which individuals, because of the strong feelings they hold, should be free to express without any inhibitions whatsoever - expressed or implied - the way in which they desire to cast their vote. [More…]
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They refrained from speaking for the very reason that if they spoke the chance of our getting a decision on this matter with a vote on it would be postponed and postponed. [More…]
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I would hope that the Senate would so deal with the matter as to enable the Bill to be considered on the next available occasion and a vote taken. [More…]
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Those who believe that a decision ought to be taken - and I think a decision can fairly be taken - should vote for my motion. [More…]
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I suggest to them that what they ought to do is vote to have the matter come on. [More…]
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If it cannot be dealt with this evening conveniently, it would come on to be voted upon, if my motion is carried, in a fortnight’s time. [More…]
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We see no choice in this matter at this time other than to vote for the termination of Commonwealth levied payroll tax and for it to be reimposed in Commonwealth Territories in order to make them compatible with the States. [More…]
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I shall be brief because I want a vote taken on these Bills before the suspension of the sitting to facilitate the passage of other legislation to come before us. [More…]
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1 think that the most effective way to deal with the Bills is to vote on the motion for the second reading of the Pay-roll Tax (Termination of Commonwealth Tax) Bill, and I suggest that that course be followed. [More…]
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I believe that the community at large let the volunteers down because the community at large did not have the foresight to vote for conscription. [More…]
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Does the Government consider that its carrying on of an undeclared war in Vietnam in supposed support of democratic government can still be justified after the 90 per cent vote in favour of President Thieu in a one man election? [More…]
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Does the Australian Government consider that it is democracy when voters wanting to vote against Thieu had to place their ballot papers in a different box from those voting in his favour and under the eyes of heavily armed soldiers? [More…]
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Does the Australian Government consider that it is democracy when voters are forced to the polls to retrieve their identity cards, which is a sure way of ensuring a high percentage attendance at polling booths? [More…]
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The second point 1 make is that it is not unique to have one candidate at an election getting 95 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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The result of that referendum seeking conscription for Australia was that 1,087,577 voted yes and 1,160,037 voted no. [More…]
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The result of the military vote on which the Prime Minister of the day was relying was that 73,299 members of the Australian Military Forces voted yes and 58,894 voted no. [More…]
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The combined vote of the military forces included the votes of troops in the trenches in Flanders as well as those in military camps in Australia. [More…]
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The present Budget contains an increased vote for defence at a time when most departments have had their appropriations reduced. [More…]
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One man was able to eliminate his opposition without a ballot, go to a ballot alone and claim that he got 95 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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The Government does not spend the defence vote properly. [More…]
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Surely we have learnt a lesson from the neglect of governments and oppositions prior to the Second World War when the Menzies Government failed this country and did not increase the defence vote by 1 over a period of many years. [More…]
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It was not the Australian Labor Party; there was no federation.I belonged to the Workers’ Political organisation long before I had a vote. [More…]
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We hear only about North Vietnam and South Vietnam because there are more people in the North than in the South and there would have been a 100 per cent vote in the [More…]
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In the 1966 elections the Australian Labor Party got 42 per cent of the vote and won 43 seats. [More…]
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The Liberal Party got 38 per cent of the vote and won 62 seats. [More…]
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The CountryParty got 10 per cent of the vote and won 20 seats. [More…]
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The DLP got 10 per cent of the vote but did not win a seat. [More…]
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The one which had the gerrymander, the one which had rigged the electorate to suit its convenience and the one which gave votes to rabbits and trees - 10 per cent of the vote for 20 seats. [More…]
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Then I would like the debate on the National Service Bill to continue to enable the Minister to reply to the debate and if possible to take a vote on the second reading before lunch. [More…]
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The position as I see it is that we are discussing legislation that will continue to call up 20-year-old Australian lads - people who have no right to vote on the type of government that they want in Canberra. [More…]
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Is the Minister aware that Mr Barnard later qualified that statement by stating that secret ballots could be held only if a union meeting reached such a decision by open vote? [More…]
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held only if a union meeting reached such a decision by open vote? [More…]
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No vote was taken at the conclusion of the debate. [More…]
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I was under the impression, which I think was reasonably founded, that the matter would be brought to a vote that evening. [More…]
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The normal procedure to deal with it is to either adopt the principle of the Bill and vote on the motion for the second reading, or vote against the proposal, in which case that is the end of it. [More…]
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No-one will force an honourable senator to vote for it. [More…]
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Having spoken on the Bill myself and made it abundantly clear that this was a private member’s Bill in which there had been no caucusing of Government views and that there was to be a free vote, with all its implications, I was appalled at what I subsequently read in the Press. [More…]
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We are in the climate of a completely free vote. [More…]
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Personally I intend to exercise a free vote. [More…]
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The honourable senator suggests that the second reading debate should be disposed of and a vote taken. [More…]
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If that proposal had been put in the amendment in a separate form I would vote for it in that separate form. [More…]
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There are contingency matters which any honourable senator is entitled to reflect upon before he casts his vote for the second reading. [More…]
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I do not think we can vote on the whole issue until such time as certain elements which arc contingent issues and which have been referred to by Senator Greenwood and, indeed, referred to by myself when the Bill was debated previously, are decided. [More…]
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As has been said this is to be a free vote for many honourable senators in this chamber. [More…]
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If it is part of the policy of the Party then everybody in this chamber does not have a free vote on the issue. [More…]
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It may be that some who are prepared to vote for the abolition of capital punishment and who will do so because it is Party policy share some of the reservations that I have expressed, I am prepared to vote for the motion proposed by the Attorney-General in order to express my view on a principle. [More…]
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Therefore the proposition put by the Leader of the Opposition that there should be a vote on the second reading is a good one. [More…]
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How much more to the advantage of the standing committee would it be if there were a vote on the second reading, proposed for tomorrow evening, to so advise the standing committee how the Senate as a whole feels about this matter? [More…]
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When it comes to any question of exports of Australian meat to the United States, do senators and congressmen from the cattle States and from the Rocky Mountain States say: ‘Well, we would like to organise a vote in Congress to do something to stop the import of Australian meat but we had better not do it because they sent some troops to Vietnam’? [More…]
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I saw no evidence whatsoever of any pressure being applied to any voters to come to vote. [More…]
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Whether pressures were applied to voters a long way down the line one could never calculate. [More…]
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There was no evidence of pressures applied to voters at all. [More…]
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In Saigon in the morning the voters were present in great numbers, as you would find them in an Australian election. [More…]
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There were early comers ready to vote and there was a constant throughput of voters during the day until the ballot closed at 5 o’clock. [More…]
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When he becomes 18 years of age he registers as a voter and is issued with a voting registration slip. [More…]
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It has attached to part of it coupons A, B, C, D and E. When a person comes to vote he presents his identity card so that he can be recognised. [More…]
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Those who were not prepared to vote for President Thieu and his vice-presidential colleague and who did not use their ballot paper put the paper in the receptacle. [More…]
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The voter then came back from the voting cubicle to the place where there was one ballot box. [More…]
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This process complied with the third requirement which was that the voter must have the opportunity of voting no or dissenting. [More…]
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Voters could dissent either by remaining away from the ballot box altogether, or by not using their ballot paper or by mutilating their ballot paper and returning it in a mutilated condition in the envelope to the ballot box. [More…]
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After the voter had done that he passed along the table where the appropriate coupon for the vote was cut off his voting registration slip. [More…]
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There were no marks on that coupon to identify it with the voter. [More…]
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At the end of the day a balance was taken between the envelopes in the box and the voting coupons to see whether the proper result had been obtained and that the number of envelopes corresponded with the number of votes who had been registered. [More…]
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In other words votes which had the slightest suggestion of doubt were declared invalid and not formal. [More…]
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The other point I make quickly in relation to Senator Douglas McClelland - because we may reach a vote on the matter before we rise - is in relation to the criticism that we did not wait until a select committee had dealt with the matter. [More…]
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Despite the desire of the Minister for Health (Senator Sir Kenneth Anderson) to obtain a vote on this matter prior tothe suspension of sitting I could not let go unchallenged his criticism of Senator Douglas McClelland’s statement about the possibility of over-prescription of drugs by the medical profession. [More…]
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(4.30) - in reply - I trust it is understood that I am closing the debate prior to the vote being taken on the amendment and the motion for the second reading of the Bill. [More…]
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By our vote on the motion ‘That the Bill be now read a second time’, we have already agreed to that amount. [More…]
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I am sure wc all appreciate that the decisions were taken at the United Nations as the result of a vote on a series of resolutions which were passed. [More…]
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That process was operating before the vote was taken. [More…]
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The vote having been taken, the immediate United States response was reflected in the decision of the United States Senate which passed, by an overwhelming majority, a resolution that there should be no more foreign aid provided by the United States. [More…]
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I would like to deal quickly with the vote that was taken to decide whether the United Kingdom would join the European Economic Community. [More…]
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By a vote in the House of Commons in recent days Britain has taken the step to join the Community. [More…]
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With that background I want to come to the context of the matter of urgency motion, which says that the entry of Britain into the European Economic Community and the vote taken in the United Nations on Communist China’s admission to that body are linked to the defence of Australia. [More…]
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It is significant that the Arrangements came into effect after the date on which the United Kingdom Government decided by resolution of the Mother of Parliaments after the drama of a vote to go into the European Economic Community. [More…]
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Our policies, as demonstrated at the United Nations and by our vote, reflect a careful assessment of our national interests and objectives. [More…]
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After the United Nations vote on the admission of the People’s Republic of China to that body, Secretary of State Rogers said: [More…]
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It challenges the Government’s policy and threatens to vote against it. [More…]
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I think this was caused by the attitude of one honourable senator who was able to convince a majority to vote with him. [More…]
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When it becomes apparent to a section of the Government that the strength of support for a proposal being discussed will lead in its view to an unfavourable vote, the matter is talked out. [More…]
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When the Bill relating to capital punishment was before the Senate during this sessional period 2 General Business nights were devoted to discussing it. [More…]
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They were desperate for a vote on this question. [More…]
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I know that Government senators will show their support for this measure when we take a vote on it, but do they support in their own minds a scheme that gives very little to the producer? [More…]
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I know that when a vote is taken they will not support it, but do they not support privately in their own minds the rehabilitation and reconstruction of the wool industry? [More…]
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If his proposal is that at this point we should have a vote on whether clause 4(2.) [More…]
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should be considered separately from all the other provisions so that, if he desires to proceed with his amendments, those honourable senators who support him can say ‘Aye’ and those who feel that it is a matter which ought not to be considered separately because we disagree with what he is proposing can vote ‘No’, I would think that that was an adequate course with which I would agree. [More…]
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I propose to vote for the amendment moved by Senator Cohen because in the discussions that I have had with representatives of small business organisations and with proprietors of small businesses, they have told me that in many respects discount discrimination is the biggest weapon monopoly is able to use against them. [More…]
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I do not know whether Senator Murphy is seeking to have a vote against clauses 47 and 48 or whether he is simply expressing a view that he wishes to be noted. [More…]
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What is proposed by the Australian Democratic Labor Party on whose behalf I speak today is this: We propose this urgency motion and we wish it to be put to a vote. [More…]
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Therefore, we consider that at this time it would be improper for us to assert ourselves as a bloc and to vote against this revenue being raised in the manner which the Government thinks to be the appropriate one for the purposes of meeting Budget commitments. [More…]
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In any event, I doubt whether any member would feel that his conscience constrained him to vote against the validating of decrees which have been made already -under the existing Act. [More…]
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I am not sure whether Senator Cavanagh was speaking for the Australian Labor Party because, as I understand it, one faction of the Labor Party has declared that it would not reduce the defence vote. [More…]
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Which nations that voted for or against the admission of the People’s Republic of China to the United Nations Organisation, and the expulsion of Taiwan, were financial members of the United Nations at the time of the vote. [More…]
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However, in accordance with Article 19 of the United Nations Charter, a member which is in arrears in its financial contributions to the Organisation shall have no vote in the General Assembly if the amount of its arreas equals or exceeds the amount of the contributions due from it for the proceeding 2 full years. [More…]
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With this qualification all of the members of the United Nations which participated in the vote on Chinese representation were financial members. [More…]
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Though member states may be in arrears for short and sometimes long periods, they ire seldom in arrears for two years or more because this would result in the loss r>f their vote in the General Assembly (Article 19 of the Charter) The latest figures (21st September 1971) available tn ns show that those countries most in arrears with regard to their contributions to the regular budget are: [More…]
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I again respectfully suggest that if there is an attempt to vote against the rights of people who have been committed in this war then it is an act of utter hypocrisy on behalf of the splinter group and on behalf of the supporters of the Government parties, because they would be denying publicly the right of these people to receive proper repatriation benefits, the right to receive a war service home, the right of the widows to be properly compensated and, worst of all, the rights of the hundreds of kids in this country who will not have fathers because they were killed by this Government in an illegal war. [More…]
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The second part expresses an opinion that could well be dealt with on some other occasion - and on that occasion there may be the same unanimity among members of the Senate that 1 hope this motion will have when it is put to the vote. [More…]
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We ask honourable senators in the Australian Democratic Labor Party and in the Government parties to think wisely when they vote on this issue. [More…]
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We should have been able to conduct a quick and unanimous vote on the motion as we have many more important things to do. [More…]
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My visit to America followed closely the United Nations vote on the admission of the People’s Republic of China which created a new situation in the world body and in the Asian region. [More…]
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My visit to the United Kingdom followed immediately after the House of Commons had voted in favour of British entry into the European Economic Community. [More…]
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Therefore, we intend to vote against the motion for the second reading of the measures and to resist them as strongly as we can. [More…]
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The Opposit ion proposes to vote against the measures. [More…]
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The Opposition has said that for it’s members this is a fundamental issue and that they propose to vote against it. [More…]
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If we are being asked to provide these huge sums - I have always voted for them and I will vote for them on this occasion - 1 feel that I have the right, as other, honourable senators have the right, to say: ‘If you ask for this amount, and more in the future, you should put your house in order; show us that the students who are going to universities are not going to fail and that when students go to universities they will be adequately trained for their future life and will not undertake courses which will offer them no future’. [More…]
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As one who has always voted and will continue to vote for adequate sums of money for university education, I would like to see a little more authority and discipline exercised from the top in the universities of this country. [More…]
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I am not prepared to debate such a proposition upon this Bill which is simply a measure to make a vote available for secondary school libraries over the next triennium. [More…]
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The second reason why the Democratic Labor Party would not vote for the amendment is because the amendment refers to the primary obligation of governments to provide and maintain the governmental school systems. [More…]
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When a vote was taken the DLP proposal was opposed by the Government and the official OPPOsition. [More…]
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There being no requests, I declare the vote passed. [More…]
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In fact, all honourable senators who believe that a committee of this nature should be set up, and who will be compelled to vote against our motion only because of pressure of work, should be in this chamber speaking for greater assistance for the committees and their members and greater personal staff facilities for the members who are prepared to examine in depth these matters that are referred to committees from time to time. [More…]
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1 am hoping that, although we have had an indication that we will not have the numbers when the vote on the motion is taken, some senators will reconsider their position and will vote in favour of the motion moved by Senator Mulvihill. [More…]
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The understanding is that the Senate will vote separately on each of these notices. [More…]
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I wish to establish the fact that we will have one vote and that that one vote will be indicative of our view in relation to notices of motion Nos 1, 2 and 6. [More…]
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A two-thirds vote of the total members of the House is required to agree to the setting up of a 7-man committee of the House to choose the nominated member or members. [More…]
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Of the 3,745 growers of sultanas, raisins and currants who registered to vote only 2,437 voted. [More…]
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Of those voting therefore 65 per cent favoured the plan but, since the criterion for the acceptance of the plan was that there should be a majority of those eligible to vote and since those who vote ‘yes’ represented only 42 per cent of all eligible voters, no mandate for the plan was in effect given to the Government. [More…]
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This can of course be regarded only as a matter of personal judgment but it might well be argued that the overwhelming ‘yes’ vote at the recent referendum, held only 18 months after the earlier poll, does give support to this viewpoint. [More…]
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It states simply that the House of Representatives be requested to reduce the vote by $1. [More…]
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Senator Byrne has said that it is terrible that the Democratic Labor Party should be suddenly called upon to vote on this simple proposition. [More…]
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That the House ofR epresentatives be requested to reduce the vote by $1. [More…]
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In the process of this we are being called upon to make a decisive vote on a major policy issue. [More…]
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All I say in closing is that we might well put this matter to the vote. [More…]
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For the elucidation of those who are preparing the statement which the Minister for Civil Aviation (Senator Cotton) has promised me I point out that T am interested, when the real crunch comes in relation to water levels, as to the procedure which is followed by the River Murray Commission when a vote is necessary. [More…]
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Let me observe, in passing, that over recent years there has been a tendency for the total vote at these elections not to be very high. [More…]
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1 think it is important to note that this group of votes may be judged in its importance by the fact that in cash terms its proposed expenditure is $l,579m in a total vote under the whole of these Estimates of some $2,934m. [More…]
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That the House of Representatives be requested to amend the vote by leaving out Division 707 - Acquisition of Sites and Buildings, $S15,000. [More…]
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In the Committee stage we propose to vote against the amendments. [More…]
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One of the disturbing features when anybody moves an amendment in this place is that many honourable senators who have not heard the argument come in and vote on Party lines, irrespective of what the argument was all about. [More…]
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When a vote is called for on the amendment. [More…]
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I remind the Senate that on 2 occasions this year the Democratic Labor Party has moved in this chamber for the establishment of such a corporation but, to the amazement of my Party, the Country Party of Australia, whose platform contains such a proposition, has on each occasions found reasons why it ought to vote against it. [More…]
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All that the Opposition is doing is moving a vote of no confidence in the whole of the wool industry set-up. [More…]
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A vote will be taken on this matter. [More…]
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It will be the vote of the Senate which will express the view of the Senate as a whole. [More…]
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If we have a vote the numbers will decide it. [More…]
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I do not want to go into all the matters which proceeded between the Government and the Opposition but my understanding was that an opportunity would be given for this matter to be brought to a vote. [More…]
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If the Government votes against this motion I would regard it not only as an indication that it is trying to stall this Bill but also as not being consistent with the arrangements made from time to time between the Leader of the Government in the Senate (Senator Sir Kenneth Anderson) and myself. [More…]
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In the event of an equality of voting the chairman, or the deputy chairman when acting as chairman, shall have a casting vote. [More…]
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I think this motion should be put to the vote now. [More…]
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However, in 1971, within some months - it could be said even within weeks - of the industry demonstrating by an overwhelming vote that the scheme proposed by the Government was acceptable - 98 per cent of those who voted being in favour of the scheme - the Minister for Primary Industry (Mr Sinclair) brought into the House of Representatives a suitable scheme for the aproval of members of Parliament. [More…]
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In the proposition which is before us, we see the opportunity for the growers in the industry to vote for the scheme they wanted, the fact that 98 per cent of those who voted supported the scheme, and the great willingness of the Federal Government immediately to introduce a scheme which is acceptable.I hope that this 5-year plan will be of great benefit to the growers in the industry. [More…]
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He congratulated the Government on giving the growers in the dried vine fruits industry an oportunity to vote on this stabilisation scheme. [More…]
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When the honourable member for Angas was upbraided by the people in the river areas for the action he took and because he was not prepared to go ahead and put his motion to a vote, he used the excuse that there was no way under the Standing Orders that he could bring it to a vote. [More…]
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This is a complete misleading of the electors on his part because there are many devices which we all know that he could have used to bring this issue to a head and have a vote taken. [More…]
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When the honourable member for Angas was not prepared to go on with the issue which he broadcast and advertised all over South Australia the shadow Minister for Primary Industry moved for the suspension of Standing Orders to allow his motion to be put to a vote. [More…]
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The motion failed to come to a vote. [More…]
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Mr Giles explained to the Committee that parliamentary procedure prevented a vote being taken on his motion and that it was unlikely that the question could be raised again before February. [More…]
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Do honourable senators opposite expect me to vote on a financial measure which would destroy my own Party’s government? [More…]
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I would not vote against the Party which provides the Government of which I am proud to be a supporter and whose policies 1 agree with - apart from this sort of impost about which I have expressed my deep concern. [More…]
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As the Minister has seen fit to reduce the period to 3 years, and as we think the case he puts up for setting his face against any reduced period, such as that suggested by Senator Drury in the amendment moved on behalf of the Opposition is acceptable, we think that the Bill should be supported in its present form and the amendment should be resisted, and we will vote accordingly. [More…]
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Having said that, I think that we should proceed to a vote. [More…]
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Australia’s vote on the resolution was one ot abstention. [More…]
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Annual expenditures on these schemes appears below: (here is no separate vote for handicapped children as expenditure is included in items1 and 2: [More…]
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Already the Japanese have increased their defence vote by 20 per cent and Japan is virtually a nuclear country already. [More…]
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There was just as much manipulation to involve the United Nations in Korea as there was to try to obtain a vote against the admission of the People’s Republic of China to the United Nations. [More…]
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1 am persuaded to allow this motion to go forward for participation in debate by such honourable senators as feel disposed to do so, and, in any case, to let a vote be taken, because this is a type of motion that does not conclude the matter. [More…]
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The Japanese are saying that they have no military intentions and no wish to go nuclear, but there was recently a 20 per cent increase in Japan’s national defence vote. [More…]
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I admit that that increase is not as large as it sounds as Japan’s defence vote has not so far been very large because America has been protecting that country, but from now on Japan will rapidly expand. [More…]
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In the last few moments it has refused to vote with us when we wanted to express the opinion that the amounts should be higher than are provided for in the amendment which it is now putting. [More…]
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What has happened on this occasion is perhaps a little worse than normal because there is barely time to read this amendment put forward by the DLP before a vote will be taken. [More…]
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However, I have consulted with one or two senior members of my Party and we have decided that on this occasion, because the DLP suggestion is better than the Government has provided, although it is worse than what we suggested - we will not give them the opportunity to mislead the people - we will vote for the proposal. [More…]
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I feel inclined to enter this debate because 1 believe that this is one of those questions where party loyalty does not apply and where every member is entitled to vote according to his own belief. [More…]
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I was always under the impression that there was to be a free vote on this matter. [More…]
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As far as my Party is concerned I have a free vote because it has made no decision on the matter. [More…]
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However, I think that when one casts a vote according to one’s belief it is desirable that one gives the reason for so casting the vote. [More…]
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If, when the vote is taken. [More…]
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The electors vote, for a Party in accordance with that Party’s policy, not in accordance with one particular item in its policy. [More…]
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Those who seriously disagree with the National Service Act but agree with the rest of the Government’s policy have to decide whether to vote for the Government’s total policy or to vote in accordance with their views on the one principle of national service. [More…]
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It is perhaps appropriate (hat at a reasonably early stage of the debate somebody should endeavour to present the attitude of the Australian Democratic Labor Party because the attitude which we adopt in this matter may well be the determinant in the vote taken in this chamber. [More…]
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This is one of the most serious matters which can come before the chamber, apart from a censure motion against or a vote of no confidence in the Government. [More…]
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I know that on the occasion on which a censure motion or a vote of no confidence was moved against the now deceased honourable senator - his name will be well remembered by honourable senators here - it was led by 2 distinguished members of the legal profession. [More…]
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For Labor to beat the conservatives in that State it would have to poll not 51 per cent of the vote but 56 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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His public utterances over a period, particularly on the issue of conscription, have been very big vote losers for the Government parties. [More…]
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The Government gol them at a time when they had no vote. [More…]
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Whatever the vote may be and whatever numbers the Government and its supporters, the Australian Democratic Labor Party, may have, those who have considered this matter are aware that the Attorney-General has in truth sought to use his office to introduce party politics into this matter. [More…]
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Now, in March 1972, the Opposition still has not been accorded the privilege of having a vote taken on a substantial Bill which has been introduced in the Senate. [More…]
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It was supported by the vote of this Senate in 1968. [More…]
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Mr President, I claim as a matter of democracy that we are entitled to a vote on this Bill. [More…]
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Government senators and those who for some purpose or other are not willing to have the matter put to a vo’.e ought to recognise that, if there is some democracy, we are entitled to have a vote on this Bill. [More…]
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I introduced in 1970 a Bill entitled the Death Penalty Abolition Bill 1970 and I want it brought to a vote. [More…]
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The democratic processes in this place are such that every device will be used to prevent me having this Bill brought to a vote. [More…]
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This matter should have been brought to a vote at the end of last year. [More…]
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I want it brought to a vote and I think that the Senate should allow me to have it brought to a vote. [More…]
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1 suggest that if there is any decent approach to legislative matters and any pretence at democracy at least 1 ought to be entitled to have the matter voted upon. [More…]
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The Leader of the Opposition (Senator Murphy) has asked that his matter be brought to a vote. [More…]
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I point out that on the notice paper under the heading of General Business there are 40 orders of the day which, at one time, or another, someone wants brought to a vote. [More…]
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Personally, I want this matter to come to a vote because 1 spoke on the matter originally. [More…]
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In the absence of the Leader of the Government in the Senate (Senator Sir Kenneth Anderson) I think it is highly undesirable that we should proceed to taking the debate to a vote. [More…]
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I have asked that the motion for the second reading of the Bill be brought to a vote. [More…]
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They were also proof of the Government’s determination to move heaven and high water rather than let this vital matter be brought to the vote of Parliament. [More…]
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With Labor’s 26 senators bound to vote for the bill on party lines, and the declared support of several Government and DLP senators, the signs were that the Opposition bill would bc passed, and then sent on to the House of Representatives. [More…]
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So the blocking procedures were hurriedly introduced, the debate adjourned for a fortnight at Senator Greenwood’s request, and the vote avoided. [More…]
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and also to rebut the suggestion which was made in the argument that it is something novel to suggest that there is an attempt to prevent this Bill from being brought to a vote. [More…]
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the Government ought to allow this measure to be brought to a vote. [More…]
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I have endeavoured as often as I could since that time to have the matter brought to a vote. [More…]
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I submit that the Opposition is entitled to have its measures brought to a vote. [More…]
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I shall press the matter to a vote. [More…]
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I intend repeatedly to take steps in this chamber to ensure that it will be brought to a vote. [More…]
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If I have to move the suspension of the Standing Orders each day I will do so until the matter is brought toa vote. [More…]
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How does one persuade the members of State Parliament to vote themselves into a situation of less authority? [More…]
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Having looked at the terms of the motion, I do not believe that it is necessary for the Senate to vote for the appointment of a joint committee. [More…]
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Having regard to all those matters, plus the fact that the Senate has already engaged itself upon a great number of references and upon work of serious moment, it is my belief that the Senate should not vote for the establishment of the committee referred to in the motion. [More…]
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They can find you when they want you to vote for them but they cannot find you when you want them. [More…]
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On a previous occasion I was fortunate to be present at a meeting when a similar wild and woolly scheme was proposed, and when it was put to the vote of all members we managed to defeat it. [More…]
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In the General Practitioners Society we agreed that any decision had to be carried by a vote of its members and a very good democratic system was evolved, but the executive has failed to regard this matter on a democratic basis. [More…]
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I do not criticise him because J. seem to remember that on one significant occasion the situation became too much for him and he crossed the floor to vote with the Opposition to preserve one important part of the proposals which originally had been put forward. [More…]
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To many people who vote for the Government and to some misguided people who vote for the Opposition it is one of the things that guarantees employment in secondary industry in this country. [More…]
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If it was their intention to seek to establish a price control authority, they would be outnumbered in any vote. [More…]
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It came down with a proposition that the ideal was to take the unions back to the arbitration system and that it would permit, on a vote of the membership of the unions which was no more ‘nan an average of 16 per cent of the membership, an amalgamation of those unions into an industrial colossus that will be the greatest threat to the stability of the economy of this nation that we have yet faced. [More…]
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If the Government wants the lead on the question it can get it from the 84 per cent of the membership of the union involved in the amalgamations which refused to vote on the question of amalgamation. [More…]
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Many of that 84 per cent of the membership of those unions that did not vote would have a very valid reason for not voting. [More…]
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If it is known that the members will not vote in the right way their ballot papers disappear in transit. [More…]
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I suggest to Senator Murphy that we have a vote on his amendment to delete sub-clauses (2. [More…]
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I had hoped that some of those honourable senators from this side of the chamber who have a free vote, as well as members of the Australian Democratic Labor Party and the independent senators in this chamber who may be wavering in their attitude or who may be in favour of capital punishment would have had an opportunity of hearing the matters argued in a different context from the context of the chamber debate. [More…]
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Politics should be completely divorced from this issue which we are debating tonight, lt is up to each and every one of us to vote and speak as we see the issue. [More…]
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When I spoke some’ months ago on the motion for the second reading of this Bill I did so on the understanding that the Senate would be regarding this matter as one for an open vote. [More…]
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I find some difficulty in reconciling the fact that there appears to have been a solidarity of voting on one side of the chamber and an open vote on the other. [More…]
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At the same time I believe in a vote of conscience and 1 will vote in favour of the abolition of capital punishment. [More…]
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I will vote for the abolition of capital punishment because in fact in time of full war when conditions are so precipitant that it is necessary for the Department of Defence to use capital punishment, the Government of the day has the powers so to implement. [More…]
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Yes, and that it is ready to proceed to a vote on the matter. [More…]
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I am conscious of the fact that it has been a very long time since the Bill was first introduced and that a vote ought to be taken. [More…]
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Therefore, I again commend the Bill to the Senate and ask that honourable senators vote in order to enable this matter to be dealt with at an early stage and the House of Representatives given an opportunity to vote on it. [More…]
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Rather do I say that the Committee has expressed, by vote, the view that there should be no exception to the principle. [More…]
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I wonder how many honourable senators who spoke quite sincerely in this debate, as did my colleague Senator Byrne, would still be prepared to vote against the reinstitution of the death penalty if they were faced with the statistical evidence that seems to be building up in England. [More…]
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I wish to make it quite clear that no vote of mine in relation to this matter which we have been debating should be taken as in any way supporting or approving the action which I regard as infamous conduct on the part of Senator James McClelland this evening. [More…]
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Because I have voted continuously in one particular way I do not wish to be taken as in any way condoning or accepting that behaviour. [More…]
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The Australian Democratic Labor Party will support the Bill and will vote against the amendment moved on behalf of the Opposition. [More…]
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It will be noted that each clause or item is not put definitely to the vote. [More…]
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If a question were put, for example - That the vote be agreed to - and that question were resolved in the negative, the Senate would have amended a Bill which it cannot under the Constitution amend. [More…]
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Yet the vote was against my motion and them on that occasion. [More…]
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We had gone through some states of debate when this item was before the Committee and a vote was taken in relation to the deletion of a standing order. [More…]
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A free vote is to be taken on the matter. [More…]
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So, if it is possible for them to be put separately, we shall vote for those 2 clauses. [More…]
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The situation is that an amendment has been moved to the States Grants (Independent Schools) Bill by Senator Wheeldon so a vote will be taken separately on the 2 Bills at the second reading stage. [More…]
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Then a vote will be taken on the second Bill to which Senator McManus has also foreshadowed an amendment. [More…]
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I believe we should simply come to the vote. [More…]
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We should now let the amendment with which we are confronted be put to the vote. [More…]
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I suggest that a vote be taken on the amendment. [More…]
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No Question or Amendment shall be proposed which is the same in substance as any Question or Amendment which, during the same Session, has been resolved in the affirmative or negative, unless the Order, Resolution, or Vote on such Question Or Amendment has been rescinded. [More…]
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It is so different in substance that while the second opposition Party in this place was prepared to vote against Senator Wheeldon’s amendment, it is prepared to vote for this one. [More…]
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If I vote for this amendment I am not’. [More…]
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If they had wished to put the motion in parts and so avoid the negative vote that has been registered already in connection with clauses 2 and 3 of the original motion, they could have done so as a matter of procedure. [More…]
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Mr Giles of course was democratically, correct, except that those whom the law affected did not have a vote. [More…]
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Now that a man is old enough to vote and is prepared to offer himself as a candidate, Mr Giles and his party- [More…]
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Most producer nominees are either selected by executive committees or by a majority vote at annual conferences of State associations which in practice are attended by relatively few association members. [More…]
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Consequently the persons who finally vote on the nominations may represent only a small proportion of the producers registered in their respective States. [More…]
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A producer will be entitled to vote at a poll and to be a candidate for election if he is the owner of 200 hives of bees. [More…]
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This poposal is not acceptable as it is considered that as provision is being made for the election of producer members it should be left to the producers to decide by a majority vote whether a beekeeper with packer interests should be elected. [More…]
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At no time since the Board’s establishment has it been possible for packer members to outvote the producer members. [More…]
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Moreover, honey packers have previously stated that they would not be effective as representatives with a vote on behalf of packers in another State whose crop and stock position and methods of business were unknown to them. [More…]
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In order to qualify as a candidate for election or for the right to vote for a candidate for election to the Honey Board an apiarist must have 200 hives. [More…]
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For that reason I am in full agreement with the provision that a person should have 200 hives in order to be eligible to become a candidate for election or to vote at the election. [More…]
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Up to 5 people on one farm were allowed to vote for the election of a member to the Egg Board because of the wording of the relevant Act. [More…]
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They are concerned also about the time of registration and about the deadline at which a person qualifies to vote by having 200 hives. [More…]
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If these dates were to be used as the criteria for determining who was to be qualified to vote at this first election for the Honey Board it would give an unfair advantage to some people. [More…]
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In South Australia we could be restricted to the number of hives as al 30th June last year but people in Queensland could be allowed to vote according to the number of hives they had at, say, 3 1 st March this year. [More…]
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If he has gone along to meetings he has been unable to exericse any vote because he is no longer a member of the association. [More…]
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No matter whether or not they are members of an association they will have the right to vote and elect their representative on the Honey Board. [More…]
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But 1 do hope that the figure will not be accepted as a completely arbitrary one and that in the practical operation of this Bill some consideration will be given in the future to a person with fewer than 200 beehives being granted the right to vote. [More…]
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The Bill simply provides that the owner of at least 200 beehives is eligible to vote. [More…]
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The legislation expresses the principle that persons meeting the 200 beehives provision are entitled to vote, and regulations cannot depart from a right granted by the Act. [More…]
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Although there are some thousands of people who apparently produce honey in some quantity, only approximately 700 honey producers will be eligible to vote. [More…]
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I do not know how the honey producers would vote on whether a new board is warranted at this time. [More…]
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Another aspect of this legislation which has stimulated some argument in the community is whether an owner of 200 hives or more should have the right to vote in this matter. [More…]
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On this point perhaps we should apply our minds to the method of giving a vote to wool producers. [More…]
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Was it basically the big producers, the top 13 per cent, who were once given a vote, or was it given to those who produced the most wool in those days? [More…]
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State Ministers of Agriculture support that view, but I put to the Senate that a time will come when those producers with less than 200 hives should definitely be given a vote. [More…]
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I attempted to point out that at one stage producers of 3 bales of wool annually were given a vote in a poll of the industry. [More…]
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I could devote a great deal of time to emphasising the many benefits that come from living on a dairy farm. [More…]
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I do no accept the argument that producers can say that they have not had proper representation on the Board or that they will not receive majority representation on the Board because they happen to vote for and return a producer who is also a packer. [More…]
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According to the Minister’s second reading speech, the amending Bill lays down that there will be a poll for the election to the Honey Board and that eligibility to vote will be restricted to those producers of honey having 200 or more hives. [More…]
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A chairman appointed by the Minister might be a packer or favour packers and, wilh his casting vote, upset producer control. [More…]
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He went on to talk about the probability of multiple votes. [More…]
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The situation was that the South Australian Apiarists Association requested that eligibility to vote or eligibility to stand as a candidate for election to the Australian Honey Board should be based on the ownership of 200 hives at the last date of registration instead of the time of voting as provided in the Bill. [More…]
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In these industry proposals the industry tried to avoid vote splitting. [More…]
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It was feared that someone with 1,000 hives could register and divide his holding by 5 and so be entitled to 5 votes. [More…]
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It was pointed out that the normal course followed in a poll with a property qualification was to allow anyone qualified at the time of voting to get a vote. [More…]
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After discussion with our legal advisers it was felt that the problem of vote splitting could best be met by a provision in the regulations which would permit a proper check to be made of applicants for enrolment. [More…]
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This in itself would not prevent vote splitting but would mean that a large producer with, say, 1,000 hives would have to go to the trouble of registering with the State department, say, 800 of his hives in the names of 4 other persons, declaring them to be the owners. [More…]
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Firstly he referred to the eligibility to vote. [More…]
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Each company which meets the property qualification will be entitled to one vote, but shareholders will be excluded from voting. [More…]
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In the case of a partnership, as each partner owns the property of the partnership each partner will be entitled to a vote. [More…]
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Earlier in the 1960s the Government gave an undertaking to the wool industry that any change in marketing legislation would first of all be put before the producers to vote on, but later industry leaders came to the Government and said that the proposed amendments to marketing legislation had the full support of the industry and they did not believe that it was necessary to take a poll. [More…]
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If this is the best figure which has been arrived at for eligibility to vote in a poll to elect representatives of bona fide beekeepers - those receiving the majority of their income from honey - this is the figure that should be adopted by us. [More…]
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figure of 200 hives was arrived at as the number which would give as many people as possible the right to vote and to stand for election to the Board. [More…]
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Does the Minister agree that all citizens of the Commonwealth over the age of 21 years should be afforded a vote in the Federal elections? [More…]
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The Government believes that all persons over the age of 21 years should be afforded an opportunity to vote at Federal elections. [More…]
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But he is not allowed to vote. [More…]
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It is the vote which constitutes the report and I recognise that the committees, like the Government, are not the repository of all wisdom. [More…]
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But at the moment when we are setting up, as is admitted, the skeleton of a service 1 will not vote for a commission of 3 commissioners because, candidly, I do not know what two of them will do. [More…]
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We should vote against it. [More…]
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Is it a fact that between biennial conferences the Federal Executive of the ALP interprets Labor policy and directs ALP parliamentarians how to vote? [More…]
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It is not moving an amendment to the Bill but it is going to vote coldly against it. [More…]
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We had a vote on the second reading of the Bill and it is now in the Committee stage. [More…]
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The fact is that this Government has increased its vote for State universities from $28m 10 years ago to $90m this year. [More…]
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I refer to growing reports that the Prime Minister is still stalling because he fears that the cost of at least $300m could be a major vote loser at the next election. [More…]
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Will the Government deny that there is a clash between the Liberal Party and the Country Party over the scheme, with the Country Party Ministers supporting it, for obvious reasons, and the Prime Minister opposing it because he is worried about its vote losing potential in urban electorates? [More…]
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an increase in the defence vote. [More…]
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the requisite ‘tightness’ in the DLP preferences to ensure (a) and (b); (d) the retention of, or, if possible, increase in, the DLPs primary vote. [More…]
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The single negative factor was the 1.1 per cent decline in the DLP vote. [More…]
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The documents reveal that in the 1969 Federal elections the group worked to reduce the Government’s majority to six or seven seats, and to maxbise the DLP vote. [More…]
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The retention of, or, if possible, increase in, the DLP’s primary vote; (e) the substitution of a new policy approach by a new Liberal Government. [More…]
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The single negative factor was the 1.1 per cent decline in the DLP vote. [More…]
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He scraped back by only 6 votes when there was a vote of the Caucus. [More…]
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reduction in the majority which the Liberal Party and the Country Party held in the House of Representatives at that time and an increase in the Democratic Labor Party vote. [More…]
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The only mild allegation in the whole of this scurrilous little journal to which I propose to advert is the sheer nonsense of the suggestion that Mr Kevin Cairns, the Minister for Housing, would actively connive at reducing the Liberal vote. [More…]
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He is elected only some days after the vote is held. [More…]
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If we do not succeed in maintaining our rights in a vote of the Senate on the adoption of certain recommendations of the Standing Orders Committee we will have to accept the consequences. [More…]
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However, I suggest to the mover of the motion and his supporters that it is one of the important things that should be considered and confirmed or rejected before the vote is cast in favour of a motion such as this. [More…]
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In order that a vote may be taken on this matter, I move: [More…]
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Not one of them was allowed to come to a vote. [More…]
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Whilst I was at Mount Hagen in the week before the opening of the House, a person who had been deeply concerned with that area for 20 years said, when I asked him for his view of the understanding of the people of the election, that approximately 80 per cent of the individ uals entitled to vote would have voted. [More…]
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I have stated the way in which I believe the vote was taken. [More…]
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On speaking later to one of those in charge it was indicated to me that the clerks had moved down to note the names of the members who had voted in favour and it was verified that a member had voted in favour of and also against the motion. [More…]
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I was told that, if a member had voted in favour and stood to vote against, he was approached and asked whether he had voted in favour and whether it was his intention to have his name recorded as voting in favour. [More…]
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In view of the matters which have been presented since this debate was adjourned it would be preferable, rather than for me to proceed and to have this matter brought to a vote - I think it would be disposed of adversely, not on the merits of whether it should be inquired into by the Committee but on the basis that the Committee could not undertake the task at present - I am prepared to accede to the suggestion. [More…]
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My assumption is that if the matter proceeded to a vote the motion would be defeated, not on the basis of its merits but on the basis that the Committee could not cope with the inquiry at this stage. [More…]
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There may be other reasons why some honourable senators would vote against it - perhaps on the basis of merit. [More…]
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Therefore, without the advice of qualified experts, we can well vote large sums and the expenditure would not have any beneficial results. [More…]
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We had determined that we would vote for the proposition as put forward by the Government. [More…]
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Quite apart from my arithmetic, does Senator Lawrie want me in a future debate to cite the relevant figures and the methods used to gerrymander the Queensland electorate, where the Country Party’ considers that one vote should not have one value? [More…]
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I have said before, and Senator Webster can read il in my earlier speeches, that to achieve an effective and representative system of government that is responsive to the will of the people it is necessary with speedy communications and modern methods of travel to have a voting system of one vote one value, lt is of no use for the Country Party to talk about anything else. [More…]
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It does not believe in one vote one value. [More…]
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It believes that a Country Party vote should have double the value of an urban vote. [More…]
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The Country Party has no right to demand that a vote for its representatives should have twice the value of a vote for urban candidates. [More…]
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I would agree that with modern means of transportation and communication more seats and less responsibility may be desirable, but it seems to me that the principle of one vote one value cannot be departed from. [More…]
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I am saying that I would prefer the proportional method which, incidentally, would bring true value to every vote. [More…]
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Just in case the honourable senator has lulled some Country Party supporters into waiting to vote in June, it might be better that they know the correct date. [More…]
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At present, the Act only empowers the Commission to order that a vote be taken of the members of an organisation where it considers that this would assist the settlement of a dispute. [More…]
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In light of the Government’s firm view of the importance of amalgamation to the membership of the organisations concerned, we have provided in the Bill that, before an amalgamation is approved, there must be a clear indication that the widest possible vote of the membership has been taken. [More…]
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For an amalgamation to succeed, therefore, it will require a vote by at least half of the eligible membership of each organisation and a vote in favour by more than half of those voting formally in each organisation. [More…]
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Thus, if the eligible membership of an organisation is 1,000, 500 will be required to cast a vote and, assuming that that 500 vote formally, 251 or approximately 25 per cent will be required to vote in favour of amalgamation. [More…]
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There is currently a vote of no confidence in the Minister and the administrative officers at the top level in various police districts throughout Queensland. [More…]
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I never vote against my Government unless I feel the need to do so. [More…]
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I make a judgment of legislation and decide what will benefit the country most and vote accordingly. [More…]
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Those who vote for the Bill will indicate their support for the view that the living standards of the people of Queensland should be lifted at least to the level of that of the people of every other State. [More…]
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Those who do not vote for the Bill, or who have indicated in their speeches that they do not support it, will not want Queensland to receive this 9m. [More…]
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Honourable senators, without exception, willingly have helped their youngest fellow settle into this place, and to Mr President I owe a special vote of thanks for the way in which he has recognised me quite early during question time and made me feel comfortable in this chamber. [More…]
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the Chairman of the Meeting, as my proxy to vote for me and on my behalf at the Annual General Meeting of the Company to be held on the 21st day of December, 1970. . [More…]
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The Senate is being asked to debate these Bills relating to the dairy industry and to vote on them although we do not know what form this 2-price quota plan will take. [More…]
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I will vote for that. [More…]
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Before a vote is taken on this question of limiting the debating time for urgency motions to 2 hours, I would like to know the intentions of the Leader of the Government with respect to the length of speeches. [More…]
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The Whip goes around looking for people to speak solely because his party does not want a vote to be taken on the matter. [More…]
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There is no reason why the speeches should not stop once the matter has been placed before the Senate and a vote then be taken. [More…]
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Usually the Government does not want a vote taken on the matter. [More…]
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The position is if the majority of the honourable senators in this place were to vote tonight in favour of the motion it would mean that the Senate could be restricted the opportunity to participate in an urgency debate to 8 speakers. [More…]
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I am not prepared to vote for this motion nor will I vote for the contingencies that Senator Young has indicated will follow. [More…]
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If the Senate says by vote, as the motion in my name says, that it agrees in principle that standing order 64 relating to urgency motions should provide that the whole discussion on the subject should not exceed 2 hours, then I think that will be helpful to us in the ultimate resolution of other views that may be put forward on the Standing Orders. [More…]
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If we vote tonight and have the motion determined, it will be for the Standing Orders Committee to look at the question. [More…]
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We are told that this is to be a free vote, a non-party vote, yet in relation to matters concerned with the Standing Orders when has the Liberal Party or the Democratic Labor Party split when it comes to the vote? [More…]
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They put forward these propositions and tell us that the vote will be on non-party lines. [More…]
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In discussions of matters relating to the Standing Orders has the Democratic Labor Party ever divided when it came to the vote? [More…]
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However, I do not know the will of the Senate in connection with this matter because a free vote is allowed. [More…]
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I do not know on what side my colleagues might vote. [More…]
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Five of my colleagues sat to the right of the Chair on the last occasion a vote was taken. [More…]
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We accept the fact that the Government cannot accept the amendment, and because we disagree we will have to vote on it. [More…]
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We are voting against all the provisions of the Bill and I hope that the DLP will also vote against it. [More…]
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As Senator Little has said, the majority has not voted in favour of it. [More…]
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If just over 50 per cent of the ballot papers are returned and 26 per cent - approximately one half - vote in favour of amalgamation, amalgamation can take place. [More…]
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To Senator Little’s mind it is justifiable that amalgamation cannot take place when 49 per cent of the union membership vote for it because a minority vote does not count, yet 26 per cent of the members of an organisation can make an amalgamation legal under the proposed amendment to the Act. [More…]
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Senator Little now claims that because 49 per cent of the membership of the union vote the same way it is not a dinkum ballot. [More…]
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As an act of bravado, workers would at all times vote for a continuation of the dispute, if the vote is by secret ballot. [More…]
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But if the ballot is conducted for no purpose other than to test the feelings of the workers concerned, on all occasions workers will vote for strike action. [More…]
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But it does not give its members the right to a secret vote, lt does not give to the members of the organisation it intends to swallow an opportunity to exercise a vote but it wants the workers who may, for their industrial advantage, have the opportunity to amalgamate to have a secret ballot. [More…]
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That includes the paper, the printing, the posting out to all the members, the enclosing of a stamped envelope in which to return the vote to the union. [More…]
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Does he not know that very nearly one-half - it is not quite one-half - of the trade unionists of this country vote for the Government parties? [More…]
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They revealed that of the trade unionists in this country 38 per cent voted for the Liberal and Country Parties and 41 per cent of their wives voted in a similar fashion, which may mean that women are more intelligent than men. [More…]
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One of the more amazing aspects of the matters relating to this extraordinary ballot - I shall remind honourable senators opposite of this in days and nights that are to come; they will never forget it - is that they have approved a ballot with a small majority of some 6,000 in which 331/3 per cent of the members entitled to vote did not receive a ballot paper. [More…]
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I do not want the vote taken without the Minister being here. [More…]
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That will be put to a vote, and if carried, the debate will go over until August. [More…]
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The Senate can express its view upon the matter and vote upon it in one way or the other. [More…]
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The DLP will vote for the Bill. [More…]
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That means that 25 per cent of the membership plus one are required to vote for the amalgamation for it to be effective. [More…]
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The Democratic Labor Party believes that at least half the members plus one should have to vote positively for the amalgamation before it can be effected. [More…]
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Our view is that there should be a properly supervised ballot, that all of the members of the unions concerned ought to be entitled to vote in that properly supervised ballot and that a majority of the members should be required to vote affirmatively for amalgamation procedures in order for such an amalgamation to be effected. [More…]
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I had said also that we felt it was undemocratic, unfair and unjust that only the case for the amalgamation should be put to the union voters and not the case against it. [More…]
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However, my colleagues and I do not feel that the requirement that 50 per cent plus 1 of the total membership should vote before the ballot is valid and that in excess of half of that number should vote in favour of amalgamation procedures before the amalgamation can take place is sufficient. [More…]
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That means that only 25 per cent of the members would be required to vote affirmatively for an amalgamation before it could be proceeded with. [More…]
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The second proposition is that before an amalgamation should be permitted 50+ per cent of the total membership should vote in favour.I am not impressed by this argument. [More…]
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It should be noted that because a ballot would have to be a postal ballot and voting is not and could not, for a number of practical reasons, be made compulsory, it would be virtually impossible to get anywhere near a100 per cent vote. [More…]
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The 50-plus per cent proposition implies that a substantial majority of those who do not register a vote can be said to be opposed to the proposal for amalgamation. [More…]
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It is more likely that most of those who strongly oppose the proposal will vote and that the majority of those who fail to vote are not sufficiently moved against the proposition - they merely acquiesce. [More…]
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The situation in New South Wales now is that in many local government areas people are elected to govern the affairs of local communities on the vote of 11 per cent to a maximum of 35 per cent of those eligible to vote in those areas. [More…]
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It is interesting to note that the contributing members of this organisation - that is, those people who put their money into it: the rank and file people about whom we hear so much - are not entitled to attend or vote at meetings. [More…]
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Contributory members of the Association shall not be entitled to attend or vote at any general meeting of the Association or to receive notice thereof. [More…]
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They have the right to stand for office, to determine policy, to attend conferences, and to vote and elect their officials. [More…]
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Other members who are not entitled to vote are those who have been unfinancial continuously for the 12 months immediately preceding the opening of the ballot. [More…]
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Out of that 90 per cent more than 50 per cent of the unionists have to vote. [More…]
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He has been consistent in this, even though in other instances he might be consistent in his inconsistency, particularly in the way in which he and his party vote on social service legislation in this chamber. [More…]
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Their policy, at least in Victoria for many years, has been one of freedom to vote, particularly in municipal elections. [More…]
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It is true that some municipalities in Victoria by their own decision have made voting compulsory, but the vast majority of local government elections in Victoria are held on the basis that a person eligible to vote may do so or may decline to do so. [More…]
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I venture to say that only 25 per cent to 30 per cent of eligible ratepayers have voted in the majority of local government elections in Victoria, at least in cities, towns and shires outside the metropolitan area of Melbourne. [More…]
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Then it is up to him to decide whether he votes. [More…]
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At the present time we are endeavouring to apply a compulsion upon these people to vote. [More…]
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Many of those members also have wives who are eligible to vote. [More…]
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I am conscious of the fact that the people I represent and with whom I have been associated for over 38 years must be very harshly affected as a consequence of this amending Bill, at least until the Australian community has the opportunity of exercising its democratic vote. [More…]
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Because of the very strong exception that was taken, the provisions in question were disallowed by the Senate on 22nd May 1969 by a vote of 29 to 20. [More…]
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There were objections to that, and a number of sections and sub-sections of the Ordinance were disallowed by the Senate on 29th October 1970 by a vote of 25 to 23. [More…]
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According to the weight which those representations had on honourable senators, so the vote went. [More…]
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The vote of the Senate was 29 in favour of disallowance and 20 against. [More…]
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On that occasion the vote of the Senate was 25 in favour of disallowance to 23 against. [More…]
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We got rid of that by an overwhelming vote. [More…]
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It did not come to a vote in the Senate because it was suggested that it would not be carried, anyway. [More…]
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Can any honourable senator, in conscience, vote for this particular section of the community to receive this substantial salary increase retrospective to November - a salary increase of 54,400 - and then go amongst the common people of Australia and say: You have to be satisfied with $2 a week’? [More…]
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The Labor Party voted against the second reading of the Bill and intends to vote against the third reading. [More…]
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He should show by his vote what he thinks about these things. [More…]
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I hope that the honourable senator will cross the floor and join honourable senators on this side of the chamber when the vote is taken. [More…]
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He also ridiculed the idea that 50 plus per cent of the total union membership should vote. [More…]
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So, people should not think that if we delay it so that a vote is not taken until 4.30 that makes any difference. [More…]
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The Secretaries and Managers Association governing body - its federal executive - representing all sections of the membership voted 15 to 1 in favour of the amalgamation. [More…]
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The 5 State executives of the Theatre Managers Association voted 4 to 1 in favour of the amalgamation. [More…]
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A subsequent postal vote of the Theatre Managers Association rank and file resulted 195 to 19 in favour. [More…]
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I do not believe that we should assert the position that amalgamations are all right but that it does not matter whether or not the rank and file are given an opportunity to vote upon them. [More…]
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We believe that there should be appropriate procedures which will enable the advantages and the disadvantages of amalgamation to be made known to the various members of the organisations, that the members of the organisations will have the opportunity to vote, not in accordance with the rules of the organisations but in accordance with the way in which a court conducted ballot will ensure that the election is conducted fairly and so that there should be an effective membership decision as to whether or not the amalgamation is to proceed. [More…]
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They will vote for this clause because they do not want amalgamations. [More…]
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I am informed that it was by a majority vote of 83 per cent. [More…]
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The returns are in, and an overwhelming majority, on a vote of more than half the members of the organisation, decided in favour of the deregistration of this organisation. [More…]
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After the vote has been taken on proposed sections 28 to 31 we can then deal with the remaining proposed sections 32 to 35, in relation to which the Opposition also will divide the Committee. [More…]
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We intend to divide on them and will vote against them. [More…]
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I think that some common sense proposal could be arrived at, otherwise votes are going to be put without any discussion at all on the clauses or perhaps legitimate amendments will not be dealt with by the Senate. [More…]
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Nothing is going to be lost if a vote has to be taken on it in the morning rather than now. [More…]
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I intend to vote for this motion because I feel that the disgraceful way in which the proceedings of the Senate have been carried on in the last couple of days leaves me with no alternative. [More…]
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I ask the Minister representing the Minister for External Territories whether his attention has been drawn to recent Press reports that the United Nations Trusteeship Council mission to Papua New Guinea has reported that elections in the Trust Territory in February were comprehensive, thorough and fair and has complimented the Australian authorities on the pain they took to ensure that everyone was given an opportunity to vote. [More…]
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All we would ask for is that we be permitted to deal with the Bill in such a way that our amendments will be put to a vote and the clauses to which we object will be put to a vote. [More…]
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Normally we would ask the Senate to divide on the motion but in this instance we simply say that we intend to vote against it. [More…]
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A copy of the scheme of amalgamation submitted under this Part or, if the scheme has been amended in accordance with this Part, of the scheme as so amended, shall accompany each ballot paper sent to a person entitled to vote at the ballot. [More…]
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Subject to the next succeeding sub-section, the roll of voters for a ballot shall be a roll of the persons who were members of the organization onthe day on which the Industrial Registrar gave his approval under the last preceding section. [More…]
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Without in any way accepting the scheme, which we will vote against, I move: [More…]
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If those people not only want to preserve the little existing protection that they have but also get greater protection for their right to work in their own profession in their own country, they should not only vote this Government out of office but actively come out and support Australian Labor Party candidates at the forthcoming Federal election. [More…]
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We will certainly never be allowed to take a vote on the matter because it is not politically proper. [More…]
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The matter was left to lie without a great deal of activity until the Government, which is again approaching political annihilation in another Federal election, increased the original vote of $3m to $8m. [More…]
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Is it because after the election, if the Government is successful, it will cut down the vote and take away money from the Institute? [More…]
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Who will be the chairman of this body and will he have a casting vote. [More…]
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I think that enough has been said and is known in relation to education but, for Senator Turnbull’s information, I say that the Commonwealth has produced, under a vote of $500,000, in the last 3 years a lot of very worthwhile pamphlets, television shorts and films which have been made available to and are greatly appreciated by the State governments which are using them according to their sovereign rights as they wish to have them. [More…]
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That is an area in which the Senate has been disinclined to act by its vote, I think once in the last 12 months. [More…]
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They are less able to be vocal and do not have the vote. [More…]
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The high unemployment amongst migrants in fact encourages them to vote in the only way open to them. [More…]
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They vote with their feet. [More…]
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The one thing about the amendment that interests me is that we are not asked to reject the Budget, we are not asked to reduce the Budget by $1 in order to force a vote of want of confidence in the Government. [More…]
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Our defence vote is being increased. [More…]
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Only now, in this desperate situation when it needs every vote it can get, does national superannuation suddenly become respectable and an attractive proposition to the Prime Minister. [More…]
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It is completely negative to say that the benefits that have been granted in so many areas to pensioners and to those on lower incomes, the benefits that will be conferred through the various social service measures or through an easing of the means test, through the repatriation benefits that are proposed, the child care benefits that we see before us and, indeed, the increase in the home savings grant that will be payable to the younger people in the community, are areas of influence designed to encourage a vote from the rich men in this community, if that is what the Opposition is attempting to say. [More…]
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One can say confidently that 80 per cent of electors vote according to their party allegiance or loyalties and that some 10 or 20 per cent of electors might change their voting pattern from time to time. [More…]
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But if we spend money on schools and other buildings it does not give direct aid to the individual whom the Government hopes will vote for it. [More…]
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After all, the Government has been in power for 2 decades and it is only when it faces the crisis of a declining vote in a national election that it has suddenly been able to find money for a number of things. [More…]
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On the first vote on nuclear pollution, Australia did not know where to go. [More…]
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Ultimately the Deputy Prime Minister, the Minister for Trade and Industry (Mr Anthony), had to intervene - why it should be him I do not know - and say: ‘Vote against it on the next round’. [More…]
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If I had been a member of the Senate then I probably would have voted for it. [More…]
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I thank the honourable senator for giving me an opportunity to draw the attention of the Senate to the independence of Senator Young in exercising his right to vote that way. [More…]
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‘If you want a nigger for a neighbour, vote Labor’ and that sort of slogan are illustrations of the feelings of these racist groups. [More…]
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Under the normal vote of the High Commission some passengers obtained small amounts to meet personal commitments in Singapore but accounts have not yet been finalised. [More…]
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The first was an admission, which I had never before heard from a member of the Australian Labor Party, that many workers - he did not define them and I will deal with that point in a moment - voted for the Government. [More…]
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One can only assume that by continuing to vote for us they are indicating that they agree with what we are saying. [More…]
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In recent times I have shown by my vote that I believe that the Commonwealth should vacate the field of estate duty. [More…]
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It is time the Government woke up and realised that when a motion for the abolition of death tax as between husband and wife is presented to the Senate there should be a unanimous vote for it. [More…]
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I wish to ask a question of the Minister representing the Minister for the Environment, Aborigines and the Arts, ls it a fact that at 2 recent international conferences Australia managed to record 2 different votes on the same subject of a 10-year moratorium on the commercial killing of whales? [More…]
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Is it a fact that at the Stockholm Conference on the Environment the Australian delegation, led by Mr Howson, voted for the moratorium and that 3 weeks later at the International Whaling Commission conference in London the Australian delegation, which on that occasion did not include Mr Howson, abstained from voting on the same question? [More…]
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Is it a fact that the vote in Stockholm was contrary to the official brief given to the delegation and that Mr Howson was therefore in error? [More…]
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Instead of a decision being made by a vote reasonably taken, whether secret or not, people would use assault to force their conclusions on to a meeting. [More…]
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This year, being a capital vote - construction has taken place already - the figure is about $534,000. [More…]
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In addition, part of the appropriation for universities and part of the appropriation for colleges of advanced education are devoted to the subject of teacher training. [More…]
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The first is that since the report was made the Western Australian authorities decided that they did not wish to have a vote of $42m. [More…]
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The vote was reduced bv the Commission, with the concurrence of the Western Australian authorities, to $40m. [More…]
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Either move an amendment or the matter will be put to a vote. [More…]
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I am sure that when I send Hansard to the poultry organisations and they read the comments which have been made by certain honourable senators a different vote might be cast in those poultry producing areas, particularly in New South Wales where people are suffering most. [More…]
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The people, by their vote, have decided in the greatest numbers to support the Austraiian Labor Party, in lesser numbers to support the Liberal Party, in even lesser numbers to support the Australian Country Party and in still lesser numbers to support the Australian Democratic Labor Party. [More…]
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Democratic Labor Party vote. [More…]
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Will the Minister representing the Minister for the Interior ask his colleague to investigate urgently the reasonable request by the New South Wales Penal Reform Council that prisoners in gaol during the forthcoming general elections be allowed to record an absentee vote? [More…]
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Is he aware that the New South Wales Electoral Officer has stated in a letter to the Council that there are no plans to provide for a postal vote for such prisoners on polling day? [More…]
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Australia the right of18-year-olds to enrol and to vote in elections for each House of this Parliament. [More…]
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At present some people who are under 21 years of age are entitled to vote. [More…]
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The right to vote for those representatives who will make the laws which apply to all citizens is one of the great human rights. [More…]
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The High Court held that even if the States gave their 18-year-old citizens the right to vote this did not automatically allow them to have a vote in Federal elections, because the constitutional guarantee of Federal voting Tights for those who bad State voting rights applied only to those whom the Constitution described as adult persons who, in the understanding of 1901, were persons of 21 years or more. [More…]
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The High Court also made it clear that it was open to this Parliament to choose to give the vote to 18-year-olds. [More…]
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Eighteen-year-olds have the vote in many parts of the world. [More…]
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All these things combine to make them eminently capable of understanding what is involved in casting a vote at a Federal election. [More…]
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He said that the Council fully supported the action proposed at the time by the Australian Labor Party and the Australia Party in seeking to take legal action to force the vote for 18-year-olds in this year’s Federal election. [More…]
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The President of the National Youth Council also stated: vote as those who are presently called ‘adults’, political awareness have resulted in 18-year olds being equally capable of exercising a responsible Increased education opportunities and greater [More…]
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On the eve of the 1969 Federal election the former Prime Minister, Mr Gorton, said that he believed that 18-year-olds would be able to vote at this year’s poll. [More…]
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The vote should be given to them not as a privilege or a gift. [More…]
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The former President of the United States, Mr Johnson, seeking Congressional permission to grant the vote to 18-year-olds, said that he wanted to close the generation gap. [More…]
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The argument for giving youth the vote is not that it will necessarily vote responsibly. [More…]
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Adults do not always vote responsibly either. [More…]
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The salient point is that to continue to deny them the right to vote until they turn 21 can only increase their growing disenchantment with politicians, political traditions and institutions and with the so-called system at large. [More…]
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The Australian Labor Party firmly believes that we ought to do in this country what has been done in the United States of America and the United Kingdom and allow our people to vote at 18 years of age as the citizens of Papua New Guinea voted at 18 in the election held earlier this year. [More…]
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It is inconceivable, in the light of the enormous weight of evidence of the maturity of young persons at an earlier age and the important social considerations that ought to impel us towards allowing them to share in political responsibility at that age, that we should continue to deny them the vote. [More…]
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I say to those people who want to vote in favour of the motion that I think it will be necessary to pass it in due course but I believe it is being proposed just that much too early. [More…]
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I do not think that this comparatively small number of children would require a big vote out of that appropriation to enable them to enjoy chances equal to those of children in other parts of the community. [More…]
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Instead of giving some proper deliberation to this question, as has been given to it in other countries over the years, honourable senators opposite will vote to push the legislation through by 9.45 p.m. and it will not be discussed properly. [More…]
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In any event, I doubt whether any member would feel that his conscience constrained him to vote against the validating of decrees which have been made already under the existing Act. [More…]
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I accept the right of socialists and the right of communists to self determination if people within a country, by their vote, want those people to survive. [More…]
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I ask the Minister representing the Minister for the Interior whether he is aware that members of the Australian base in Antarctica are seldom given the opportunity to vote in the Australian elections? [More…]
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Will the Minister take immediate appropriate measures to ensure that provision is made for all persons stationed in Antarctica to cast a vote in the forthcoming federal election? [More…]
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1 am more apprehensive about what is reported to be a one vote decision of the Federal Conference of the Australian Labor Party to retain ASIO than the particular aspect about whether or not the cost to which the honourable senator has adverted is too great. [More…]
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I feel that if it was only by one vote that the governing body of the Australian Labor Party decided to retain our security watchdogs, the Australian people ought to view with concern the possibility that one vote would change ai the next conference. [More…]
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I hope that when the vote is taken the Ordinance will be disallowed. [More…]
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I know the Minister will say that provision has been made in the Budget for an increase in the vote to the Commonwealth Council for National Fitness from $350,000 to $500,000. [More…]
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Over the years people stationed at these bases have almost always been precluded from casting a vote for State and local government elections. [More…]
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Frequently they have been precluded from casting a vote for Federal elections. [More…]
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I ask that on this occasion this be changed and that every person at each base be given assistance in casting a vote in the forthcoming Federal election. [More…]
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Because the laws and ordinances of the Australian Capita] Territory apply I think that we have an obligation to see that every person working in this remote area receives and is able to exercise his right to vote. [More…]
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right to exercise a vote. [More…]
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Some 70 people are involved - a major group - and there is no reason why the Government should not extend itself a little and at least forward applications for postal votes before the writs are issued. [More…]
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election date might be extended to November, or even to December as seems to be favoured by some sections of the Liberal Parly, or to January as is favoured by another section - after all Santa Claus might bring votes at Christmas and the Government may be able to afford to postpone the election until January - but under the Constitution the date cannot be extended beyond 20th January. [More…]
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The next stage is for the Senate to vote on a formal motion for the tabling of the papers. [More…]
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Does any honourable senator recall the occasions when Senator Davidson was used to talk out legislation or Bills before this House so that the vote would not be taken? [More…]
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He so incensed the Senate that the Senate, in disgust at the attitude of this particular individual, voted against the motion for adjournment and continued to sit until the legislation went through. [More…]
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If ever legislation were introduced into any parliament we would vote according to our consciences, as was the ‘ case in the South Australian Parliament which has been the only parliament- in - Australia to legislate on and legalise abortion. [More…]
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If such a Bill were introduced into any Parliament the members of the Labor Party would be given the opportunity to vote on it according to their conscience. [More…]
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This is what is stated under big headlines reading ‘Hall quits vote talk’: [More…]
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I want to put on record that after the redistribution took place in South Australia the Labor Party received less votes at the 1970 election than it received at the 1968 election when it could not win the government. [More…]
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But in 1970, after the redistribution, with a lesser percentage of the overall vote than we received in 1968 we went back into Government with a majority of 7, because there was some sort of electoral justice. [More…]
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Although we received between 52 per cent and 53 per cent of the votes in an election for the lower House, we can get only 4 members out of 20 members elected to the upper House. [More…]
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Although we want to get legislation through the Parliament in order to govern the State as it should be governed, in lots of cases the legislation is blocked by the upper House which is elected by a minority of the people; if is elected by people who have a vote according to the acres they own and not according to the number of people who live on those acres. [More…]
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But it did everything possible to influence these migrants to vote for the Liberal Party. [More…]
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He sold his vote for a portfolio. [More…]
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Did the Australian delegation to the Stockholm Conference on the Environment, led by the Minister, vote for the moratorium and, 3 weeks later, at the International Whaling Conference held in London, did the Australian delegation, which on that occasion did not include the Minister, abstain from voting on an identical question. [More…]
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Was the vote in Stockholm contrary to the official brief given to the delegation and was the Minister in error; if so, howdid the discrepancy occur. [More…]
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It would be necessary to amend the Commonwealth Electoral Act before an elector could record an absent vote at any polling booth outside the State for which he is enrolled. [More…]
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Senator Keeffe raised the matter of people in Antarctica not being able to vote. [More…]
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I ask the Minister to take the Senate into his confidence as to when we will be dealing with the Commonwealth Electoral Act because I say very sincerely that a tremendous number of people are asking in this year 1972 why they are not able to vote in any part of the Commonwealth on an absentee basis on polling day. [More…]
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Wc are concerned that the vote should be as pure as possible and as effective as possible and that it should reflect as truly as possible the views of the people. [More…]
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According to a newspaper report, in a recent poll of about 300 persons aged from 16 to 20 years, 51 per cent favoured the vote at 18 years and 39 per cent at 21 years, while 10 per cent were undecided. [More…]
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As honourable senators know, section 41 of the Constitution provides that no adult person who has or acquires a right to vote at elections for the more numerous House of the Parliament of a State shall, while the right continues, be prevented by any law of the Commonwealth from voting at elections for either of the Houses of the Parliament of the Commonwealth. [More…]
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Information available to me indicates that some 650,000 additional persons would be eligible to enrol and vote if the franchise age was lowered to 18 years. [More…]
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Various opinions are held on whether the new youthful electors will vote conservatively or radically. [More…]
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Many polls show that they would vote conservatively and many show that they would vote radically. [More…]
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I do not mean their political response in whether they would vote this way or that. [More…]
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is a shadowland of speculation and nobody can quite say just how the young people would vote or how they would respond to such electoral opportunity as a Bill such as this would hand out to them. [More…]
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Only recently we have found the Australia Party, in areas where it has put up a candidate at an election, obtaining a rather significant fraction of the vote. [More…]
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But when we analyse the situation and look at the aggregate vote that this Party receives we find a very dangerous situation when a party which commands such a big proportion of the national vote is not able to obtain a seat in the people’s house, the House of Representatives. [More…]
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In that event the people will vote for a party, although it may not represent their views and although it may not be the party they want, because it is the best they can have. [More…]
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At the Senate general election on 22nd November 1958 the Democratic Labor Party received 387,792 votes. [More…]
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That would be a vote equivalent possibly to the population of Perth, or perhaps more than the population of Perth. [More…]
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As a result of that tremendous vote the DLP returned one member to the Senate, although it had polled 8.41 per cent of the aggregate vote at that Senate election. [More…]
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In 1961 the DLP received 472,578 votes, which was 9.82 per cent of the total vote, but it was not able to have one candidate elected to the Senate. [More…]
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I want to emphasise that I do not intend my remarks to be critical of the Country Party; 1 am just attempting to show how the Democratic Labor Party’s vote is distributed and the Country Party’s vote is concentrated. [More…]
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In that Senate election the Liberal-Country Party received 2 million votes or 44 per cent of the vote and its candidates were successful in winning 15 scats. [More…]
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They indicate that the Australian Labor Party put up 18 candidates and obtained 14 seats with 12.15 million votes or 44.71 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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That could not be correct because there would not have been 2 million votes for the Labor Party in South Australia. [More…]
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The Democratic Labor Party received 433,51 1 votes and 2 of its candidates were elected. [More…]
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The Liberal-Country Party received 2.3 million votes and 14 of its candidates were elected. [More…]
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In other words, the LiberalCountry Party received 45 per cent of the vote and obtained almost 50 per cent of the seats. [More…]
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The Democratic Labor Party received 8 per cent of the vote and obtained only one-fifteenth of the seats. [More…]
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In the Senate election of 1967 the DLP received 540,000 votes or 9.77 per cent of the vote and obtained 2 seats. [More…]
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The Australian Labor Party obtained 13 seats, although it received only 45 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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In the last House of Representatives election, which was held in 1969, the DLP received 367,977 votes and obtained no seats at all, whereas the Country Party had the usual record in relation to its vote. [More…]
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It is that there is a large segment of the community - the young people between 18 and 21 years of age - which is politically mature enough to participate in the electoral process, in the process of government, and which has no direct representation because it has no opportunity to vote. [More…]
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That there are on occasions over half a million adults who do not have the political representation in the Parliament that their vote indicates they want is, I think, a very serious position. [More…]
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But 1 would say that again that is not a consideration which should inhibit us if we wish to be pioneers in this field as 1 said in relation to proportional representation or in relation to granting the right to vote to 18-year-olds. [More…]
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Those who have been scrutineers at elections and those who hand out ‘how to vote’ cards or ‘vote thus’ cards, as they are called in Victoria, know that people come along to a polling place and say that they want to vote for Party A, Party B or Party C. They are given a ‘how to vote’ card for the party of their choice. [More…]
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People come along now and again and say that they want to vote for a particular candidate but so often they want to vote for a particular party. [More…]
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Voters are handed ballot papers which do not show political party designations. [More…]
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A whole group of these slates is available and the voter selects the one which depicts the way in which he wishes to vote and puts it in his envelope. [More…]
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The point is that the party designation appears by symbol or otherwise and people could vote for a party. [More…]
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There was every opportunity for a free vote, for a secret vote, for a dissentient vote and for a personal vote, with proper identification so that there could be no impersonation. [More…]
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There was proper scrutiny and proper accounting of votes and ballot papers, and I could find no fault during an attempted objective assessment when going around polling booths both in Saigon and in one of the new provinces to which we were lifted by helicopter. [More…]
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For the informal vote a discard tin was provided, for those who did not want to use any of the slates. [More…]
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If a person did not want to vote he put his paper in the tin, or he could mutilate his paper before he put it in the manila envelope. [More…]
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That would be an informal vote. [More…]
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That would have been an informal vote and there was opportuntiy to register it. [More…]
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I suppose a provision could be made for them to vote on the previous day, or something like that. [More…]
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Yes, to vote by post. [More…]
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But we have found the 8 a.m. to 6 p.m. provision is all right and convenient and that anybody who wants to vote is reasonably able to vote, with the benefit of modern transportation. [More…]
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There is a very heavy demand on our funds and candidates’ funds to provide the necessary deposit and if our candidate’s vote is below the minimum requirement, the deposit is not refunded. [More…]
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significant segments of the community, he would have welcomed the proposition on which we are giving the Senate the chance to vote tonight. [More…]
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In those circumstances, Mr President, I submit that, in your judgment, you should allow the first placitum of our amendment to go to a vote, as being relevant to the Bill, and we will then discard the rest of the amendment for the purposes of the motion for the second reading of the Bill and present it in Committee in the terms I have suggested. [More…]
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The members of the Democratic Labor Party have had some considerable knowledge of the policy of the Leader of the Opposition in the Senate, Senator Murphy, who wants the vote to go to 18 year olds. [More…]
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It is to amend the Electoral Act for the sole purpose of allowing 18 year olds to vote. [More…]
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I am in favour and have publicly declared myself in favour of giving 18 year olds the vote in Australia at the right time in all State and Federal elections. [More…]
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That is an important power and responsibility to give to youth as it is an important power and responsibility to give to youth of today the vote in regard to their national and State elections. [More…]
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In other words, if the youth of today is classified as being too immature to withstand the wiles of salesmen - and many people older than 21 fall for them - they have no right and are not mature enough to cast a vote in parliamentary elections. [More…]
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If a youth is fit to vote he should be considered fit to enter into legal contracts, to buy and sell, and to enter into hire purchase agreements. [More…]
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They were allowed to vote, were they? [More…]
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If we have allowed our servicemen to vote at the age of 18 years, I believe we should give every youth of 18 years the right to vote because we should classify every youth in Australia as being willing, if called upon, to take some part in the defence of his or her country. [More…]
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If we give a vote to those youths that we make serve or allow to serve, we should give a vote to those who can serve if something terrible happens and we want to serve in some way. [More…]
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I want to speak about the matter of people over 18 years who, I agree, are fit and mature enough to vote and who we classify as being fit to go to war and to enter into legal contracts. [More…]
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I agree that in the age in which we live they are still undertaking education and the like but I am only speaking about Australia - that is all the Bill is about - and who is fit to vote. [More…]
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Whether the Papuans and New Guineans aged 18 are capable of casting a vote is not within my knowledge. [More…]
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It is my belief that if we are to give 18-year olds a vote we also have to give them the right to enter into legal contracts, to buy and sell legally, and to have other powers a.id responsibilities. [More…]
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I will vote for this measure when that situation exists throughout Australia. [More…]
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I conclude my speech by saying that when all powers now given at the age of 21 years are given at 18 years I will support the right of 18 to 20 year olds to vote. [More…]
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I suppose I have been in support of this proposition for longer than anybody because 1 am one of the few people in Parliament who had a vote at 18. [More…]
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The Liberal Party in my State of Western Australia has been in support of this matter for a number of years, lt was a Liberal-Country Party government in Western Australia which was the first State government to give a vote to those in that age group. [More…]
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Senator James McClelland., if I had crossed the floor only once - I have done at least that on a very important clause of a Bill which the Government introduced in this place - that will he far more times than you will ever have the courage to vote against a caucus decision of your Party. [More…]
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In an open vote? [More…]
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Come now, Senator Murphy, in an open vote? [More…]
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I always do have an open vote and I will exercise it as and when 1 please and not to please anybody else. [More…]
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I suppose that one of the real tests of a democracy is whether a person sent here by his electorate is allowed to vote as he thinks best for his electorate or whether he should vote as he is told to vote by somebody who has not been elected. [More…]
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So do not give me the argument that on that basis they should have the vote. [More…]
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Pitt the Younger was Prime Minister at 24 and I know that he had the vote at the age of 21 years. [More…]
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That is right, to vote or not to vote. [More…]
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I know that the House of Representatives does not necessarily reflect the vote of the electorate in the primary vote, but I think that within the Australian electoral system, once the preferences have been distributed, the House of Representatives tends to reflect the electorate. [More…]
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1 well recall, when people talk about the great victory of the Attlee Labor Government in 1945 that, from memory, it won about 60 per cent of the seats on about 45 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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People tend to forget that the Attlee Government never achieved a majority vote. [More…]
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The Conservative Party attracted a fairly large vote and most of the remaining seats, and the Liberal Party, which received a big swag of votes in the middle, won about 6 seats. [More…]
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Nobody can tell me that the House of Commons between 1945 and 1950 represented the primary vote of the 1945 election. [More…]
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I do not think the United Kingdom system ever does reflect the primary vote. [More…]
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I believe that there is a real argument for 18-year-olds having the vote. [More…]
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I understand that he wishes to get a vote tonight- [More…]
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Allowing perhaps that amendments of this kind may- not be able to be accepted in the disposition of members of the Cabinet, although I could not see why, at least those who may not in some way be bound by any Cabinet loyalty will find it possible to support the amendment and to let if not a unanimous at least a substantial vote flow from this chamber, stating the principle of elimination by supporting the terms of the amendment. [More…]
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I imagine that if we get to a vote tonight members of the Australian Labor Party will oppose the amendment. [More…]
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It may have been only coincidence - I do not want to be unfair - that within a couple of days of my colleagues, Senator Withers and Senator Durack, and myself having declared our position quite unequivocally at the Western Australian State Conference of the Liberal Party to support the vote for 18-year-olds, the Leader of the Opposition in the Senate (Senator Murphy) announced that he intended to introduce a Bill for this purpose into the Senate. [More…]
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I have declared publicly my support for the vote for 18-year-olds. [More…]
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The first government in Australia to introduce legislation to provide the vote for ,1 8-year-olds, as my colleague Senator Withers reminded us a fortnight ago, was a Liberal-Country Party Government in Western Australia. [More…]
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Senator Withers addressed that conference on his own behalf and on behalf of Senator Durack and myself in declaring our support for votes for 18-year-olds. [More…]
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I express some disappointment that it has not done so, but emphasise that for the time being my responsibility is to use all my endeavours in conjunction with the endeavours of others on this side of the ‘House who support the granting of the vote to 18-year- olds to convince the Government that such legislation should be introduced. [More…]
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Therefore I do not intend to support the legislation which is before the Senate either tonight or whenever the vote on it is taken. [More…]
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Rather, I adopt the attitude, which I hope I have made clear, that I support the granting of the vote to 18-year-olds but that I shall use my endeavours initially- [More…]
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Let us all be frank: Some senators on this side of the chamber have been prepared to vote against the Government, but I have yet to see a member of the Opposition cross the floor to vote against a caucus decision. [More…]
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Let us have no criticism until some members of the Opposition show the political moral courage required to vote against a caucus decision of their Party. [More…]
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Let them not criticise those on this side of the chamber who have from time to time shown that they have the courage to vote against the wishes of the Government when they believe an issue is at stake. [More…]
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An issue is at stake in this legislation but it is not an immediate issue; even if it is agreed to the vote cannot be granted until after the election on 2nd December. [More…]
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I again make my position clear: I will not support this legislation at this stage, but if my pressures and the pressures of those of my Party who also support the granting of the vote to 18-year- olds are not successfully heeded by the Government, then I for one am prepared to reconsider my position. [More…]
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Senator Withers reminded us that in 1943, when he was a young man of 18 years serving in the Navy, he had the right to vote. [More…]
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Probably he is the only honourable senator in this place who has exercised a vote at the age of 18. [More…]
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I do not know whether he voted wisely on that occasion or whether he has become wiser since. [More…]
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It was believed during the war years that a man of 18 years who was old enough, in the view of the Government - I believe rightly so - to fight for his country was also old enough to vote. [More…]
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Therefore they may be more educationally mature, but it is debatable whether that qualifies them as being ahead of past generations when it comes to deciding how to vote. [More…]
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In a few words these are many of the reasons why I sup port votes for 18-year-olds. [More…]
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We can all argue and no doubt some people can produce figures to show that 18-year- olds are more inclined to vote one way or another way. [More…]
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I do not think that gallup polls reveal with any certainty the way 18-year-olds vote or are likely to vote. [More…]
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If we believe that the best interests of Australia will be served by giving votes to people at whatever age it may be - in this case 18-year-olds - then I suggest this must be the criteria upon which we should make our judgments and decisions. [More…]
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If 4 candidates were standing for election it would be mathematically possible for a candidate to be elected to Parliament on 25.1 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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As I say, mathematically it is possible there for a person to be elected on 25.1 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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I shall continue to use my endeavours, and try to harness the endeavours of my colleagues who support votes for 18-year-olds, to convince the Government that it should introduce this legislation. [More…]
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Before I sit down I merely repeat that after a reasonable time if the Government has not introduced the vote for 18- year-olds then I shall reconsider my attitude. [More…]
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This measure proposes to give to 18-year-olds the right to enrol and vote in State and Federal elections. [More…]
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Senator Sim said that he wanted to it quite clear that he has publicly declared his support for the right of 18-year-olds to the vote. [More…]
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They have been given the right to vote in some States. [More…]
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Those who go away to fight for our country automatically receive the right to vote. [More…]
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Just because of the obstinacy by the and mulish attitude of some people in this chamber other 18-year-olds are being deprived of the right to vote. [More…]
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But the attitude of those who get up and have the proverbial 2-bob each way and say: ‘I am completely in favour of the proposal but I am going to vote against it’ is difficult to follow. [More…]
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They know very well that the only thing that is preventing them from having the right to vote at 18 years of age is the stick in the mud pragmatism of many honourable senators on the Government side of this chamber who are supposedly representing some of them. [More…]
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How do we appear in their eyes when we, as an august body, are prepared to speak against or to equivocate against their having the final right to vote and par- ticipate in the selection of those who will represent them in the parliament of the Commonwealth? [More…]
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Those who are prepared either to defer or to find some weak excuse for not giving them the vote now are failing the young people of this country. [More…]
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The proposition has been advanced by Senator Murphy that 18-year olds in the community should be given the vote. [More…]
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My view would be that at the present time it is not appropriate that 18-year olds should receive the vote. [More…]
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I think that it would be impossible to predict the outcome of their vote. [More…]
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If it is fair to say that it is not an appropriate time to give these people a vote at present, it is acceptable to me that within the foreseeable future the vote will be granted to a group of individuals of an age lower than 21 years. [More…]
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It appears to be the general concensus of State governments, whatever their political complexion, that they are interested in granting the vote to the 18-year olds in the community. [More…]
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It is fair to say that there is a demand throughout the world, for some reasons, to give the franchise to individuals of an age lower than 21 years Senator Sim mentioned why in earlier years 21 years was adopted as the age at which one could vote or at which one could be considered to have reached majority. [More…]
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In Australia between 1894 and 1909 the Commonwealth and the States separately adopted the universal adult franchise and decided upon 21 years as the minimum agc for all voters. [More…]
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Although some States consider some other age as appropriate for the grant of some benefit Dy way of a vote, the individuals who have not reached 21 years but have achieved the vote are not accepted in the true sense as adults. [More…]
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The various State Governments have made their judgment as to the age at which a person should be granted a vote. [More…]
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I am not using that as an argument against individuals having the vote; I am using that argument in favour of them having it. [More…]
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For example, we have not heard why a person should have the vote because he happens to be 18 years old. [More…]
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Honourable senators opposite have not been able to say why they would not grant the vote to 17- year-olds. [More…]
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Before I was interrupted by Senator Primmer I was saying that if this issue were to be judged on the basis that I mentioned, certainly individuals under the age of 21 years should be given the vote. [More…]
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The majority of people in Australia do not see it as wise to grant to vote to people aged less than 21 years. [More…]
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I acknowledge that that is the case, I noted from news reports that, in a poll which was conducted recently among 300 persons in the 16 to 21 years age group, 51 per cent favoured having the vote at 18 years of age, 39 per cent said that they thought it should be given at 21 years of age and 10 per cent were undecided. [More…]
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If one asks a teenager ‘Do you believe that you should get the vote at 18 years of agc?’ [More…]
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But he did not indicate the grounds on which he believes that a person should be given the vote at 18 years of age. [More…]
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If the Commonwealth is to change the voting age, I believe that it should consider being perhaps a little more modern than Senator Murphy and consider giving the vote at 16 years of age. [More…]
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One could put forward an argument for giving the vote at 16 years of age which would be as good as that put forward by members of the Opposition for giving it at 18 years of age. [More…]
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But I also think it is fair to say that many of those in the community who have the vote at 21 years of age are not completely informed on many matters. [More…]
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The Opposition believes that it would be wise to give the vote to individuals 18 years of age and over. [More…]
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That was an example of a government seeking to gain an advantage by giving the vote to another age group, but it was surprised to find that the people in that age group cast their votes more in favour of the Conservative Party than for the irrational Opposition. [More…]
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He emphasised to them the point that at 18 years of age they were not mature; they were not experienced in so many of the things in which they should really be experienced to enable them to cast a proper and considered vote in this community. [More…]
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1 think it could be said that, if 18-year-olds were entitled to vote, their votes would be in the mould of their parents’ votes. [More…]
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If one challenged any member of the Opposition at the present time one would find that he is voting in the same way as his parents voted years ago. [More…]
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I think Senator Murphy hopes that 18-year-olds would vote in the mould of the ALP. [More…]
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01 course, one could not consider a more mouldy vote than that. [More…]
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A poll was conducted in America in 1970, at a time when I understand the vote was given to those under 21 years of age. [More…]
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The result of the poll indicated an increase in the Independent vote. [More…]
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It was clear that neither the governing party nor the main opposition party was acceptable to the thinking young person who voted in America. [More…]
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In 1967 Brazil gave the vote to those over 18 years or age. [More…]
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Those who made the application suggested that because they had the right to vole in a State election in South Australia they should be entitled to a vote in the House of Representatives election. [More…]
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No adult person who has or acquires a right to vote al elections for the more numerous House of the Parliament or a Stale shall, while the right continues, be prevented by any law of the Commonwealth from voting at elections for either House of the Parliament of the Commonwealth. [More…]
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I think that a number of laws would have to be altered before the right to vote could be granted to 18-year-olds. [More…]
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Although an asterisk is used to denote those who are under 21 years of age, there is a great problem associated with the preparation of rolls in the States in which 18-year-olds have the right to vote in State elections. [More…]
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It is fair enough to say that the Government’s attitude is that it is not averse to the vote being given to 18-year- olds. [More…]
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I have posed to Senator Murphy the proposition that members of the Federal Opposition and members of the State governments which have granted to 18-year-olds the right to vote do not really believe that 18-year-olds are as competent as 21-year-olds. [More…]
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I was proceeding to emphasise what a government which has given the right to vote to people of 18 years of age and over is doing in another matter. [More…]
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I take it that you will permit me to proceed to emphasise my point and to demonstrate why it is difficult to conceive how the Opposition here in one instance can seek to proclaim that a person over 18 years of age has the full competence of an adult in our community and should be granted the important right to vote when in a House of the South Australian Parliament rights which might be said to be those which should be granted to an adult are confined to persons of 21 years of age and over. [More…]
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When granted the vote, persons under 21 years of age should be impressed with the fact that they have been granted one of the most sacred rights that can be made available to an adult in our community. [More…]
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I am confident that, within the next 3 or 4 years, we will see the right to vote being granted to individuals some years under the age of 21. [More…]
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Under our electoral system and our electoral legislation, the right or the privilege to vote is not granted to anyone, whether that person be 18 years of age or 58 years of age. [More…]
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We impose upon these people the obligation to vote. [More…]
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We do not grant the right or the privilege to vote. [More…]
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The responsibility to vote is imposed on people. [More…]
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The responsibility to vote in elections is imposed on those so designated by Aci. [More…]
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We vote under a specific system at the moment. [More…]
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He said that young people of this agc group in our community are pounding on the doors wanting the wonderful privilege of the right to vote. [More…]
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By this Bill we will impose on people of 18 years of age an obligation to vote. [More…]
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If they do not vote, they will be fined. [More…]
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The South Australian Government conceded to young people the right to say: ‘I believe that I am old enough and that I have interested myself sufficiently in these matters to be qualified to vote. [More…]
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The Government is now permitting me ‘o vote’. [More…]
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The amending Bill now being debated, merely changes the age at which a person is called upon to vote. [More…]
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By agreeing to this Bill we will say to every person 18 years of age and over not that he may consider whether he is sufficiently interested in voting or wishes to exercise the right to vote, but that that person will vote or we will fine him for not voting. [More…]
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But an argument can be made as to whether such a legal obligation should be imposed upon these young people, even if honourable senators stand by the belief that many of these young people today are interested in voting and desire the right to vote. [More…]
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Most of the people at this age are interested in matters quite different from the right to vote or electing governments. [More…]
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I have no doubt that for many young people the compulsion to vote will have exactly the same effect and they will want to challenge the old fogies in Canberra who impose this obligation on them and will say: ‘We refuse to vote.’ [More…]
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It is impossible to assess everybody’s interest in politics or to assess their intelligence in an area and to judge whether they have reached an age at which it is appropriate for them to vote. [More…]
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I have heard some say they will vote for a certain Party and I am inclined to think it was foolish to have given them the right to vote because they do not seem to be applying that right intelligently. [More…]
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One great slogan which led to this achievement was that there should be no taxation without representation People believed that the qualifying line for the vote was the payment of taxes. [More…]
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Today some perhaps would argue that the reverse holds good - ‘no representation without taxation’, ff that is accepted, and if what I see as the only practical course is adopted - that is tj give the vote to 18-year-olds - the Government would preclude many in that age group from electing a representative to say what should be done with the taxpayers’ money since they themselves would not yet be taxpayers. [More…]
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My Party’s policy is simply representation for 18-year-olds but I do not think it has ever really considered whether they should be compelled to vote. [More…]
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Australian Labor Party can have a great and sincere interest in suddenly granting the franchise to 600,000 people of more in a particular age group when at the same time it wants to take the franchise away from 500,000 people in the age group that already has the right to vote. [More…]
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It is to take from every person in the Australian community who votes for the Democratic Labor Party - there are close enough to 500,000 of them - the right to have an effective franchise. [More…]
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No, but you want to limit them so that they cannot vote for the people they want to vote for, or so that their vote is ineffective in the final result. [More…]
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Nobody can be elected with a minority of votes. [More…]
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Each person elected must be able to say before taking office that he was elected by 50 per cent plus one, or more, of the voters in his electorate once the contest is resolved. [More…]
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I say that because ultimately 2 candidates remain and all the voters select one of the final 2 candidates. [More…]
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Members of the Labor Party come here and say very sincerely: ‘Is it not dreadful that our age limit is so high that we are disenfranchising 600,000 teenagers who are now intelligent enough to vote upon reaching 18 years of age?’ [More…]
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Then in the next breath they prove their insincerity by saying that they want the first past the post system because it will disenfranchise the rock that stands in the way of their obtaining office, namely, the 500,000 people who want to vote for the Democratic Labor Party. [More…]
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The Labor Party says that it will let those people vote for the Democratic Labor Party but it will make their votes ineffective in the final analysis by having the first past the post system. [More…]
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In the beginning, all sorts of peculiar methods were used to select the people who were considered good enough to vote for it. [More…]
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People were given more than one vote on many occasions if they so qualified under the system of that day. [More…]
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Surely today we do not consider that somebody has to have a university degree before being able to vote. [More…]
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Sometimes 1 am sufficiently simple minded to think that perhaps people with university degrees should not be given a vote. [More…]
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I do not know However, in bygone days a person had to have a university education or own certain land or property to be able to stand for the Legislative Council in the State of Victoria or to vote for those seeking election. [More…]
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When Senator Murphy’s suggestion was introduced in England, I know that Labor people here and in London said that the Labor Party would win the election because of the 18-year-old voters. [More…]
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And the 18-year-old voters went along and voted for the other party. [More…]
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If people are given the right to vote or not to vote as they please that is one thing, but nobody is suggesting that we should alter the compulsory system which we have. [More…]
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If we are to broaden the Electoral Act to the extent of granting some form of franchise to people between the ages of 18 and 21 years we should take the further step of seriously considering whether minorities should have the right to representation in this chamber and in the other place in accordance with the number of people who vote for them. [More…]
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We hope that this chamber, with the wisdom which it always displays and for which it has shown much more aptitude in recent weeks, will follow the lead of the Australian Democratic Labor Party and vote for the amendment which it has moved to the Bill which is before the Senate. [More…]
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The Senate is debating a Bill introduced by the Leader of the Opposition in the Senate (Senator Murphy) to amend the Commonwealth Electoral Act to give the right to vote at 18 years of age. [More…]
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The second is the more substantive question of whether the functioning of our democracy is to be served by the granting of the vote at this time and, for my part, in the immediately foreseeable future, to persons between 18 and 21 years of age. [More…]
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We would have, presumably, the situation where some people between the ages of 18 and 21 years, if they were speedy in their actions, would have the right to vote at the election, but there would be no obligation upon every person between the ages of 18 and 21 years to enrol because the Electoral Act at present provides for a period of 3 months within which a person, after attaining the age of 21 years, may enrol before he commits the offence of failing to enrol. [More…]
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I know of the figures for South Australia and I know they reveal whether the 18 to 20-year-olds are really enthusiastic about having the right to vote. [More…]
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If publicity has been given to inform people of their right to vote either it has had little impact or the people concerned are not attracted by the prospect. [More…]
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1 was indicating that if the Bill were to become law the anomalous situation would exist - just because of the practicalities of the situation - where there would be conferred upon some people aged between 18 and 21 years a right to vote at the forthcoming general election. [More…]
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It is regarded as a duty on the part of every citizen to cast a vote as to who his or her representative shall be. [More…]
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In effective terms, if there were some 5 or 6 candidates standing, there could be a situation where the one who polled 21 per cent of the votes was the candidate who was elected. [More…]
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For it to be passed, as I have said, would mean that some people between 18 and 21 years of age would be able to vote and its passing would introduce, for that segment of the community, a voluntary principle which would run counter to the general compulsory principle which prevails throughout the Electoral Act. [More…]
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Unless you have your name crowed off the roll as having received a ballot paper you would be, as I believe the situation, committing the offence of not having voted. [More…]
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If he is wise, he can vote for the Government Party. [More…]
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If he so chooses, he can vote for the Opposition Party. [More…]
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On the other hand, he can vote for the Australian Democratic Labor Party, the Country Parly, informally, or for one of the minor parties. [More…]
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But somewhere between 90 per cent and 98 per cent of all those eligible to vote at an election always vote. [More…]
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My recollection is that it has been part of the policy of the Australian Labor Party for some time to grant the vote to persons between the ages of 18 years and 21 years. [More…]
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I seem to recall that about February or March of this year publicity was given to a decision by the Federal Executive of the Australian Labor Party that the question of whether the under 2 1 -year-olds should receive a vote would be tested in the High Court of Australia. [More…]
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We have in this country ever since Federation accepted that the right to vote at Federal elections is to be granted to those persons who are adults. [More…]
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The point I make is that we all know that there are persons who are entitled to the vote who either do not care about it or lack the amount of comprehension that we would like to see them bring to the casting of their vote. [More…]
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Unless one is going to pick and choose on some standard, which I do not believe our society will accept, those who are entitled to the vote and those to whom the right to vote will be denied, I believe that we must continue with a criterion which is fixed, specific and arbitrary, that is, a voting age. [More…]
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Can the Minister inform the Senate whether arrangements have been made and whether all Australians on the bases will be able to cast a vote at the general election to be held on 2nd December 1972? [More…]
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On that basis it is a reasonable assumption that the Government cannot win this matter, so the vote can be taken on the voices. [More…]
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If the Senate by its vote refers this matter to the Senate Standing Committee on Industry and Trade and if at the time when that Committee comes to consider the reference, the details of the contract, as Senator Webster has pointed out. [More…]
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T regret that my Party will be forced to vote against some of the excellent principles in the amendment. [More…]
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We have made our position clear to the Parliament, and the Senate has made its position clear to the Government, and we trust that the Government, will make its position clear to the people who will vote at the forthcoming election. [More…]
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Are we to take it from what he said that unless there is a total abolition of death duties the Democratic Labor Party will vote for nothing introduced to improve the situation? [More…]
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Despite the fact that he has voted with us probably only 2 or 3 times since he came into this chamber, when there has been a chance for some forward step to be taken along the lines he has been advocating so energetically up and down the country and when it has come to the vote, who has it been who has supported him on this proposition which, as Senator Byrne admits, is an ameliorative amendment? [More…]
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1 will listen to Senator Devitt’s attitude to the vote for 18-year- olds. [More…]
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I and others have on occasions voted on matters against the Government’s wishes. [More…]
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But I have never seen an honourable senator of the Australian Labor Party vote against his Party. [More…]
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I reply to Senator Wheeldon’s reply to Senator Young’s interjection because I stand by my vote. [More…]
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It is not the first time that I have voted on this matter. [More…]
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Id view of the earlier decision of the Government parties and the DLP not to wait for the report of the Standing Committee let us determine whether we have the courage to see if difficulties are being experienced by people in our community and let us vote on that issue alone. [More…]
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Let us find out whether Senator Sim, who on some previous occasion said: T shall vote for the Australian Labor Party amendment when it does such and such’, will support us now. [More…]
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This is not the motivation behind the amendment moved by Senator Negus or of those of us who are availing themselves of this opportunity to vote for a sectional approach to the problems associated with death duties. [More…]
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We have supported an amendment for the amelioration of a Bill and the Australian Labor Party has voted with us, but then when the Government has stood firm and said that the Bill would not come into existence and other good provisions of the legislation would be lost, I have seen the Australian Labor Party come into this place and vote for the Bill as it stood because it was afraid to accept the responsibility of losing the good things in the Bill. [More…]
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It is because he has to vote for the Government in order to get a guarantee of No. [More…]
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But he is going to vote for the legis lation when a vote is taken - be is going to have 2 bob each way. [More…]
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He spoke against the duty but he will vote for the legislation. [More…]
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He will go round the countryside of Victoria and say: ‘This is my speech; this is what 1 said’, but he will not say how he voted. [More…]
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If I happen to be away from this chamber and do not vote it is because I see the futility of voting on some measures when we have the stupidity of 2 parties voting against each other in the belief that one can gain a little bit of credit against the other one. [More…]
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All these other honourable senators believe in this but they are too scared to vote for it. [More…]
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If we do we will vote for the amendment. [More…]
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Anyone who ls interested in the depressed sections of our community, no matter what Party they arc in or what votes are involved in this issue, has to vote for this amendment. [More…]
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When he is not here it is remarkable that they mostly vote with the Government, and when they are not here and he is here he mostly votes with the Government; so it is all very confusing. [More…]
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A while ago Senator Poyser mentioned that Senator Webster intended to participate m this debate on one side publicly and on the other side he would vote with the Government because he needs his second place on the pre-selection ticket in Victoria. [More…]
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I challenge every member of the Government parties, the independent senators and the members of the noisy little Democratic Labor Party to vote in support of this amendment. [More…]
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I challenge them to vote in support of this amendment if they are fair dinkum. [More…]
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Let us see how fair dinkum they are when the vote is taken on this amendment tonight. [More…]
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Prior to that suspension the Opposition could not inform us how its members would vote on this amendment. [More…]
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All I can do now is ask them to vote as they believe they should vote since the amendment can help people in distress. [More…]
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Surely it is not much to ask honourable senators to vote truly in order to help people in distress. [More…]
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I do not wish to discuss the ins and outs of it but I consider that there was an understanding that this Bill would be brought to a vote. [More…]
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I feel that there is a moral obligation to allow this Bill to be brought to a vote. [More…]
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I think that the Bill could probably be brought to a vote even this evening within a very short time because I do not believe that much further discussion on the matter remains. [More…]
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Without going into the ins and outs of the matter, there was an understanding that the Bill should be voted on. [More…]
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I think there is a moral obligation on the Government to agree to that Bill being brought to a vote, in the light of what went on between the Government and the Opposition previously in relation to the arrangement of business. [More…]
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But on the question of the Electoral Bill I have gained the impression that on the 2 whole nights spent on it members talked for no reason other than to talk the question out so that a vote would not be taken on it. [More…]
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This too is a waste of time and whether or not the Government adjourns taking a vote on it until after the election, the vote still has to be taken. [More…]
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Senator Sir Kenneth Anderson has assured us that he will make every endeavour, subject to precedence being given to Government Business and the possibility of an extension of the sittings of the Senate, to have this matter and Senator Murphy’s matter brought up - in Senator Murphy’s case for a vote and in our matter, very likely, only for the second reading speech in relation to a Bill which has been read a first time, and on which there has been no debate. [More…]
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We do not want to take the Bill to a vote this session. [More…]
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When members of the Labor Party solemnly vote for this amendment tonight they will be doing the reverse of what the people who conducted the needs survey and what ail education authorities in Australia on the State level have banded together to seek. [More…]
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Therefore my colleagues and I will vote against it. [More…]
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I suggest with great respect, Mr Deputy President, that if you were to alter your ruling at this stage it might not be necessary for the motion to be put to a vote. [More…]
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If we were consistent and your ruling were challenged now the vote would go the other way. [More…]
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However, under pressure from some members of the Country Party and some people whom he evidently hoped would vote for him he resiled somewhat from that rather positive view on another occasion. [More…]
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Are members of the Australian bases in the Antarctic seldom given the opportunity to vote in Australian elections; if so, will the Minister take immediate action to institute appropriate measures to ensure that provisions are made for all eligible persons stationed in the forthcoming Federal Election for Members of the House of Representatives. [More…]
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Persons at these bases will not be able to vote at the forthcoming elections. [More…]
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Non-voters notices will not be issued to the persons concerned. [More…]
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Australian electors going to Macquarie Island will be able to record their votes before leaving Australia while electors returning to Australia would normally be able to vote upon their return. [More…]
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Will the Minister representing the Minister for the Interior ask his colleague to investigate urgently the reasonable request by the New South Wales Penal Reform Council that prisoners in gaol during the forthcoming general elections be allowed to record an absentee vote. [More…]
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Is he aware that the New South Wales Electoral Officer has stated in a letter to the Council that there are no plans to provide for a postal vote for such prisoners on polling day. [More…]
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It was repealed, as I recall it, with the assistance of Senator Hannan’s vote and against the vote of the Opposition. [More…]
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On each occasion when the matter came before us we voted to preserve the Australian Industries Preservation Act. [More…]
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It is a Budget that is deliberately set for the purpose of bribing people to vole for the Government, a Budget that expresses a belief that people are foolish enough to vote again for a government that has governed extremely badly for 2i years. [More…]
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The Senate will then vote on the amendment moved by Senator Wriedt. [More…]
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Having said that I would like quickly to close the debate so that I can get a vote on it, then put the Appropriation Bills down and secure passage of them. [More…]
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-Senator Little would not reject this legislation; he would vote for the Government. [More…]
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I think that the matter should be put to the vote. [More…]
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I suggest that we move to a vote on the amendment. [More…]
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1 have no doubt that it will be possible to organise an amendment on acceptable lines before it is necessary to take a vote on this legislation. [More…]
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Now they have an opportunity to vote for the removal of that excise. [More…]
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This is the time when they can vote and their votes will be effective enough to require reconsideration of this measure by the House of Representatives. [More…]
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If those honourable senators on the Government side want to put their votes where they have indicated they have some sympathy, now is their opportunity. [More…]
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When I am allowed to continue my remarks - the vote was taken on the motion which was moved by my colleague. [More…]
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On that occasion when the vote was taken Senator Laucke was absent. [More…]
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The result of the vote in relation to Senator Drury’s amendment was ayes 22 and noes 24 so it was defeated by 2 votes. [More…]
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On every occasion when an endeavour has been made by the Labor Party to bring this motion forward and to have Mr Giles stand up and be counted he has voted against his own motion. [More…]
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Mr Gorton admitted that he made a mistake but he too, when the vote was taken, voted against the abolition of the wine excise. [More…]
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The details of the votes which took place in the other place show that the first motion was moved by Mr Grassby on 21st March 1972. [More…]
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Votes and proceedings show that Mr Giles was present in the House at some time during the day. [More…]
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The vote on the motion was taken at about 9.25 p.m. [More…]
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Briefly that is the issue and it is now the responsibility of those who claim that they are against it to decide which way they should vote. [More…]
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Again honourable senators from the Government benches said: ‘We do not approve of it but we will vote for it’. [More…]
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Senator Laucke, along with the others, voted for it. [More…]
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Honourable senators opposite have been out in the country saying to the wine industry that they do not approve of the excise and will do everything they can to remove it, but when they have the opportunity to vote for its removal they will no do so. [More…]
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They are prepared not only to argue for it throughout Australia; they are prepared also to vote for it in this Parliament. [More…]
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I ask honourable senators who want to see the end of this tax to vote for this amendment. [More…]
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I point out that the Committee will deal with both Document A and Document B, but we will not vote on Document B until later. [More…]
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Its vote represents the difference between revenue and expenditure. [More…]
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That was a vote for ‘Incidental and other expenditure’, of approximately $60m. [More…]
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From recollection that amount would represent approximately the total annual vote for the Department of Immigration which is an example of the normal run of department in the Commonwealth Public Service. [More…]
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What are the genuine interests of the Labor Party as declared in its policy of one vote one value - whatever that may mean? [More…]
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For those reasons, I commend the Bill to the Senate and indicate that the Government will vote against the amendment moved by the Opposition. [More…]
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This Government’s initiative - hardly the right word - is designed as nothing more than a vote catcher in the coming election. [More…]
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Should it be the consumer or should it be our defence services through the defence vote? [More…]
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Senator KEEFFE (Queensland) - Mr President, before the vote is taken I wish to make a personal explanation. [More…]
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Likewise as a consideration predisposing the Senate to that course may be the realisation that there is little point in pursuing this Bill at this particular time, because it is apparent that there is an amendment to be debated, that there is a vote to be taken on the second reading and that there will be a considerable debate in Committee on the basis of amendments that have been foreshadowed. [More…]
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I have endeavoured to bring this Bill on and bring it to a vote. [More…]
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I will be content if it is brought to a vote on the second reading. [More…]
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I have tried each day to have it brought to a vote. [More…]
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I do not want to go into all the details but 1 have good cause to believe that there has been a breach of understanding, not as a result of anything to do with the Leader of the Government in the Senate (Senator Sir Kenneth Anderson) but as a result of the arrangements which were made about business earlier in the sittings; that is, that if this matter was not brought to a vote the understanding was that it would be dealt with. [More…]
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However, I think it ought at least to be brought to a vote on a second reading. [More…]
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I gave the Government every cooperation that I could; I agreed to waive general business on Thursday night on the understanding that this matter would be given its proper course and brought to a vote. [More…]
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I ask the Senate not to accept this step and to allow the matter at least to be put to a vote. [More…]
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He clearly implied, if he did not explicitly state, that in some way I had been party to breaching an arrangement that this matter was to be brought on and brought to a vote. [More…]
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I do not know whether the Leader of the Government in the Senate (Senator Sir Kenneth Anderson) meant what he said, and I am sure that personally he did not, but this shows the depth of cynicism to which the Government can sink after an endeavour is made throughout the whole of this sitting to have this matter brought to a vote. [More…]
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This is an important issue affecting the right of 18-year-olds to vote. [More…]
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Government speakers deliberately stalled and filibustered: they indicated that they would continue to do that and to put up further speakers so that we could not get a vote on this Bill. [More…]
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Day after day I have moved that the Bill be brought on for decision and each day that move has been rejected, again by the votes of Government supporters and the Democratic Labor Party, including honourable senators who claim outside this chamber that they are in favour of the vote being given to 18-year-olds but who come in here and do everything they can to frustrate it. [More…]
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One of the problems that the people of Australia will have to cope with is this 2-faced attitude adopted by people who say that they are in favour of something and constantly proclaim it outside, but when the chance comes inside this chamber to have something done about it they use every excuse to prevent the matter from being brought to a vote. [More…]
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I regret very much that these tactics have been used over a period so that it has been impossible to have a vote on this matter in order that we would be able to see how those who have said outside this chamber that they are in favour of this principle would vote on this Bill. [More…]
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The aim of the Bill is to bring about a simple decision as to whether 18-year-olds should have a vote. [More…]
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Well, I think that reveals that those on the Government side and members of the Australian Democratic Labour Party, including those who are protesting that they are in favour of the vote for 18-year-olds, will do everything they can to prevent 18-year olds being given the vote. [More…]
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Is it a fact that the Minister has instructed that any person owning 300. sheep will be entitled to vote? [More…]
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It was for that reason that the Government decided to give the vote to all wool growers who in the 1971- 72 season delivered more than 1,400 kilos of shorn wool to a registered broker. [More…]
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The industry will need to co-operate with the Government to get a proper poll of those persons entitled to vote. [More…]
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The people entitled to vote at such referendum being those entitled to vote under the electoral laws of the State of Queensland. [More…]
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We hope that we will get a vote on this proposition. [More…]
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While the vote, in a technical sense, will be on the adjournment of the Senate, the vote will be substantially on the substance of the urgency motion. [More…]
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He obtained a tremendous vote throughout those islands. [More…]
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In 1971 the Standing Orders Committee considered a proposal that the Senate should vote on the subject matter of the urgency motton, rather than the question of rising until an unusual time. [More…]
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The first thing I say is that whatever vote is taken on the matter tonight we are merely deciding that we shall meet at 10.55 a.m. tomorrow. [More…]
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The emotional issues on which honourable senators are asked to vote tonight are not the issues at all. [More…]
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I ask the members of the Senate tonight to think very carefully about the vote they are about to make because the result could very easily inhibit a future government in Australia, whatever its political colour and whatever might be the situation in Papua New Guinea at that time. [More…]
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Will the Minister assure the Senate that he will see to it that those sheep owners who are to be given a vote in the merino ram export ban referendum and those other persons, whoever they may be, to whom he is to grant a vote will be properly informed well in advance of the poll date? [More…]
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Will he also assure the Senate that information about both sides of the referendum question will be supplied to voters and will be given to the Senate weD before the referendum date? [More…]
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I indicate that we intend to vote for the motion which expresses disapproval of the determinations. [More…]
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That in the event of an equality of voting, the chairman, or the deputy chairman when acting as chairman, have a casting vote. [More…]
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Has the Minister yet decided whether a written case for and against export will be sent to all persons who are to have a vote? [More…]
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I hope that there will be a rectification of the situation before this motion is put to a vote. [More…]
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We in the Opposition will vote for that. [More…]
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The other reason that was put forward - Senator Cavanagh would know this - was that a number of left wing unions said that if compulsory unionism was brought in and people were forced to join unions they would probably be the conservative type and they would vote against the left wing leadership of the union. [More…]
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We will all vote for 4 weeks annual leave being granted to all public servants. [More…]
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We will all vote for it. [More…]
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We never saw them line up on our side when we talked of the freedom of the young boys who did not have a vote being sent to Vietnam to die in an undeclared war. [More…]
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Labor Party received its massive vote on 2nd December because people knew our policies regarding 4 weeks annual leave and preference to unionists. [More…]
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It is simply that honourable senators opposite do not follow and cannot accept what was accepted overwhelmingly by the majority of the Australian people, when the Labor Party received more votes than the combined vote of all the other political parties in Australia. [More…]
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Commonwealth citizens in Britain will continue to enjoy civic privileges such as the right to vote, to stand for Parliament and the right to join the public services, both armed and civil. [More…]
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The statement on this occasion will explain firstly, the questions to be decided at the poll; secondly, the principal arguments advanced by those who support opposing views on the issue’; and thirdly, the eligibility to vote. [More…]
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As a consequence of doubts which arose concerning enrolment as an elector and therefore eligibility to vote at an election and the possibility that this would depend upon the discretion of returning officers, I gave notice on 12th October 1972 for disallowance of these regulations. [More…]
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It is true that the Australian Labor Party received 49.6 per cent of the first preference vote and 52.7 per cent of the vote under the Mackerras preferred party vote allocation system, and is therefore entitled to form a Government. [More…]
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In a survey of voters taken on polling day, and referred to in the book written by 2 Canberra journalists, Solomon and Oakes, a majority of those who changed their vote to Labor did so on the basis of ‘it was time for a change’. [More…]
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The simple fact is that the last election with all its alleged defects gave the Government 54 per cent of the seats, although it obtained only 49.6 per cent of the primary vote. [More…]
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The simple fact is that over the vast majority of elections since 1949, more people have preferred to vote for the Liberal Party, the Australian Country Party and the Australian Democratic Labor Party than for the Labor Party. [More…]
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I turn to Senator Withers argument about who did and who did not vote for the Labor Party. [More…]
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I think Senator Withers was very careless with the truth in the way in which he juggled the figures for votes obtained in the other States. [More…]
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That is because a large number of people are floating voters. [More…]
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A 2.5 per cent swing represents the vote of perhaps some of those people who have been caught up, as I believe they have, in the very excellent publicity campaign which was launched by the Labor Party in this instance. [More…]
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If we look across the chamber we can see the strata of differences in the group of senators who vote against us. [More…]
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But when a collective decision is made we will be there to vote on it. [More…]
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The Labor Party has existed on one premise: ‘Let us say anything, let us do anything no matter how outrageous, no matter how much we know it is untrue, so long as it scares the voters and gets them to vote for us’. [More…]
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These are the Labor claims of the past: ‘These bases are bad for Australia, we should not have them and we ask you, the Australian people, to vote the Government out and to vote us in’. [More…]
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That, in the event of an equality of voting, the Chairman, or the Deputy Chairman when acting as Chairman, shall have a casting vote. [More…]
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I ask the Minister for Primary Industry: By what method and when does he intend to convey explanatory notes regarding the referendum on the ban on the export of merino rams to those persons entitled to vote in the referendum? [More…]
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I have met the man who heads one of the most attractive philanthropic institutions in Victoria, an institution which I believe attracted many people to vote against the former government because of its policies relating to unemployment. [More…]
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The Shire of Maroochy is governed by a chairman, a deputy chairman and councillors elected by popular vote. [More…]
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He has been elected by popular vote on more than one occasion and he is now Deputy Chairman of the shire. [More…]
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Consistently with that it was also a clear part of the Labor Party’s policy that 18-year olds be given a vote. [More…]
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The Opposition will vote for him to have leave to bring it on. [More…]
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Mr Deputy President, I wish that that ruling had been given earlier in the evening when the debate was proceeding, because Senator Little, who is one of the persons who will vote in favour of this motion, then said things which prejudices this gentleman. [More…]
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There can be no doubt that a rather small majority of Australian voters showed its disenchantment with the LiberalCountry Party Administration and desired that the Labor Party be given a chance to govern. [More…]
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But in cases in which there is doubt about which way my vote will be cast, I think it is reasonable to side with the Government. [More…]
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Unless a measure is dangerous, illconsidered or against my State’s best interests, it is likely that my vote will be with this new Government. [More…]
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Tonight my vote will be with the Government. [More…]
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At present, the Commonwealth Electoral Act provides that persons who are not under the age of 21 years are entitled to have their names placed on the roll and, when enrolled, to vote at elections for senators and for members of the House of Representatives. [More…]
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However, under a special provision, a member of the defence force serving in a war zone outside Australia, who is under 21 years of age, is entitled to vote at a Federal election. [More…]
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The LiberalCountry Party Government declined to bring these Bills to a vote. [More…]
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It is absurd and anomalous that persons in the 18-20 year age group are able to vote at some elections and not at others. [More…]
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The position with regard to the franchise in the 6 States of Australia is as follows: South Australia and Western Australia have enacted legislation to reduce the voting age to 18 years; New South Wales passed legislation in 1970 lowering the franchise age to 18 years but the Act has not yet been proclaimed; in Victoria a Bill to lower the franchise age has been passed by the lower House and is likely to become law shortly, thus enabling the 18 to 20 year olds to enrol in time to vote at the State elections which, 1 understand, are expected to be held about the middle of this year; the Queensland Cabinet approved the lowering of the franchise age to 18 years but the Government deferred consideration pending information as to the Commonwealth Government’s intentions; in Tasmania a Bill which included the lowering of the franchise age was passed by the Lower House of the last Parliament. [More…]
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Honourable senators will be aware that, under the provisions of section 41 of the Constitution, no adult person who has or acquires the right to vote at elections for the more numerous House of the Parliament of a State shall, while the right, continues, be prevented by any law of the Commonwealth from voting at elections for either House of Parliament of the Commonwealth. [More…]
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However, it was made clear by the High Court that the way was open for Parliament to extend the vote to 18, 19 and 20-year-old citizens by legislative action. [More…]
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We believe that, in conjunction with the extension of the right to vote at 18 years of age, young people of this age should also have the right to nominate for election, if they so choose. [More…]
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When this matter was debated here last year I remarked at the time that I thought I was about the only person in the Senate or indeed in the Parliament who had received a vote at the age of 18 back in 1943. [More…]
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It is a long time ago since I got my vote at the age of 18 in 1943, some 30 years ago. [More…]
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I suppose the difference betweenthen and now was that the Government at that time thought I had really earned my vote and that I was not being given it as a gift. [More…]
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I think this will be a matter of conjecture forever because, after all, it is a secret vote and statements by people in the community, whether they be political scientists, pollsters, journalists or politicians, that 18-year-old voters always vote against the government in power or always vote this way or always vote that way is so much eyewash. [More…]
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It is a secret vote. [More…]
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I believe that they do have an interest in politics and in what happens in this country, and that they will cast their votes according to their judgment of the political parties and the candidates at the time of the election. [More…]
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We made policy about 2 or 3 years ago at our Federal Conference in favour of votes for those of 18 years of age. [More…]
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The argument was put forward, and there is a good deal in it, that if people are old enough to be called up to fight for their country they are old enough to vote for their country. [More…]
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1 have heard some Australian Labor Party supporters contend that it will be a big advantage to their Party, but I understand that in some places where it has been tried it has not been found to have a very considerable effect upon the percentage of votes received. [More…]
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I still think that, whatever happens, elections will be won on policies and strategy rather than through a particular group that may happen to have the vote. [More…]
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There was a suggestion in some quarters in my Party that we should make the vote a voluntary affair for people between 18 and 21 years of age on the ground that some of those young people may not be sufficiently clued up to feel that they ought to cast a vote. [More…]
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In my State of Victoria we have debated on many occasions whether the Party should fall in line with the general proposal that appears to have been taken up on a worldwide basis that people under the age of 21 should be given the right to vote for their country’s legislature. [More…]
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It has always appeared to me to be something of an anomaly that the age of 18 should be settled upon as being an age at which the vote should be granted. [More…]
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I could well argue in line with the Prime Minister’s very excellent statement that a youth or a lass at 17 in 1973 has all those qualities which the Labor Party or any Party which proposed the vote at 18 some 2 or 3 years ago said they would have. [More…]
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Looking at some of those words I draw the Senate’s attention to the fact that those factors which the Prime Minister mentioned should apply in 1973, certainly within the next 3 years will apply to people of a lesser age than 18 if one is to believe that this is the basis upon which we have granted the vote to 18-year-olds now. [More…]
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I again emphasise the fact that I believe that we are caught up in a world-wide trend to grant to people under the age of 21 years the right to vote. [More…]
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Anyone who examines the record of what is happening throughout the world in this respect will find that some countries are granting the right to vote to certain individuals of 19 years of age and 18 years of age. [More…]
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I do not think it would have been wise for that State to announce some years ago that it was going to grant the right to vote to people below 21 years of age if the Commonwealth Government would not follow the lead. [More…]
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One or two States have granted the right to vote to 18- year-olds. [More…]
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I commend the Government for introducing the measure, which will give the 18-year-olds of Australia the right to vote in federal elections. [More…]
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I vividly recall that on each of the last 9 sitting days of the Senate prior to the last federal election the then Leader of the Opposition in the Senate and present Leader of the Government in the Senate, Senator Murphy, moved for the suspension of the Standing Orders to enable him to bring forward a Bill to give 18-year- olds the right to vote at that election. [More…]
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The government parties of the day, supported by the Australian Democratic Labor Party, saw fit to deny 18-year-olds the right to vote at the last federal election. [More…]
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In the Legislative Council, where there is a voluntary vote under a gerrymandered system, the Labor Party now has 6 members. [More…]
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I am not able to foretell the future, but from the spirit of the Acts I should imagine, without wishing in any way to intrude on the responsibilities of the Minister for Aboriginal Affairs (Mr Bryant), that the Government would want to move towards a situation in which Aborigines do vote and, in due course, exercise the same rights and responsibilities as anybody else. [More…]
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It will be necessary for honourable senators representing States other than Victoria and New South Wales to look very closely at what the situation will be in the House of ‘Representatives, the House which is said to reflect the more popular vote of the people of Australia. [More…]
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I hope that they will realise that the Government’s claim that it is attempting to bring about what is popularly referred to as one vote, one value is untrue. [More…]
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The Government claims that it is attempting to provide for every person’s vote to have the same weight, but the result will be that the domination of the whole Parliament will fall into the hands of New South Wales and Victoria. [More…]
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The quality of service was just not in the fact that he was a good and active chairman and that he enjoyed his work; the quality of service resided more in the fact that he had the courage to face his colleagues in government, to disagree with them and to come into this place and vote according to his conscience. [More…]
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I can remember many honourable senators who sat on his side of the chamber ostracising him, sending him to Coventry, because he was prepared to stick up for what he believed to be right and voted accordingly. [More…]
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There were other honourable senators in this chamber who sat near him who said they were going to vote against the government of the day but who never did so when the crunch came. [More…]
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I accept those sentiments and the vote of appreciation of the Senate as a great honour, but in doing so it is very clear in my heart and mind that a great number of honourable senators assisted me by the wonderful work they have done. [More…]
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These unfortunate people were safely concealing information and this wretched AttorneyGeneral, relying merely on the vote of over one-half of the people of Australia - that was all he was relying on - goes around there and takes their information from them. [More…]
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The vote was 24 to 24. [More…]
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The vote was 24 all. [More…]
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There was a time, at least until there appeared to be a vote taking place, when he used to posture a little as some sort of independent, but when he became a Minister he promptly forgot about that role. [More…]
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Is it a fact that at the last Federal Conference of the Australian Labor Party held at Launceston, Tasmania, 23 or 24 delegates voted for the abolition of the Australian Security Intelligence Organisation and that 23 or 24 delegates voted for its retention, and that the Organisation was sustained only on a casting vote? [More…]
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Is it not a fact that at the Launceston Conference of the Australian Labor Party to which Senator Wright referred and at which there was a tied vote on the question of the abolition or continuance of the Australian Security Intelligence Organisation, Senator Murphy was among those who voted against the abolition of ASIO? [More…]
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That in matters of procedure the Chairman or Deputy Chairman presiding at the meeting have a deliberative vote and, in the event of an equality of voting, have a casting vote, and that, in other matters, the Chairman or Deputy Chairman have a deliberative vote only. [More…]
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With those observations, Mr President, I think the Senate ought to be ready to vote upon the motion. [More…]
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It is interesting to reflect on the fact that the vote which was just taken in the Senate was on an issue as to whether the Matrimonial Causes Rules were substantive legislation. [More…]
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In fact, the actions which led to this matter coming before the Senate today were taken as a majority vote by members of the Senate at a time when the Australian Labor Party numbered only 26 of the 60 senators present in this chamber. [More…]
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Because we believe that, although the amendment does not cover the whole question of relativity in which we are interested - it is at least a token of the belief of a number of senators that there should be an examination of such relativity - we will support the Bill, but we will vote for the amendment moved by Senator Drake-Brockman [More…]
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My view is based upon this fact: The total remuneration for members and senators comes to $18,600 but when I come to the remuneration of Ministers of State I find that they wish us to vote them $34,075. [More…]
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For one moment I thought he was going to vote against the whole Bill. [More…]
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I say that because if the Bill is not fair and just I would not expect anybody to vote for it I am sure nobody would. [More…]
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But I must have misunderstood Senator Drake-Brockman because towards the end of his speech he said that he would certainly vote for the Bill. [More…]
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The fact is that in 1971 the Bills were never proceeded with in the House of Representatives and, therefore, we never had a chance to cast a vote on them, to move amendments to them or to do anything about them. [More…]
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One does not know to which vote their salaries are being charged and what liability the Commonwealth has towards these people. [More…]
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I want to vote against the amendment and, if necessary, divide though I was hoping we would not get to that situation. [More…]
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I would be very reluctant to vote against the normal practice of the Senate, and I suggest that we need to give this question very deep thought. [More…]
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I hope that honourable senators who think about these things will vote against the motion which obviously is designed to frustrate Government business and for another purpose that I believe is becoming apparent. [More…]
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What I believe should be maintained is the right of honourable senators to ask questions and that right on any particular day should be terminated only by a vote of the Senate and not by a direction of the Minister of the day. [More…]
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As I have indicated, an effort was made by means of a motion to put the whole issue before the Senate and to have the matter resolved by vote. [More…]
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If there were any genuineness on the part of the Government it would set a time at which by common concurrence, we could let this issue go to a vote. [More…]
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With what prestige can we renew this matter if dissatisfaction is occasioned by subsequent experience without the Senate putting the matter to a formal vote today. [More…]
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That, in the event of an equality of voting, the Chairman, or the Deputy Chairman when acting as Chairman, have a casting vote. [More…]
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We then have another proposition that the Prime Minister nominate one of the members as the chairman who no doubt would have a casting vote. [More…]
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Those eligible to vote in the referendum are those persons who delivered at least 1,400 kilograms of greasy shorn wool in 1971-72 to a commercial wool house registered with the Department of Primary Industry or who are registered members of the Australian Association of Stud Merino Breeders or who are otherwise determined by me as being affected. [More…]
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One of the dilemmas that this Government confronted was how it could relate its foreign policy to its internal policy when seeking the ethnic vote. [More…]
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I say this to the Opposition: Notwithstanding the events which have occurred, the plain fact of the matter is that the discrimination in the Crimes Act and the previous Government’s failure to provide portability of pensions were 2 of the reasons why the Labor Party obtained the major ethnic vote of the major groups at the last election. [More…]
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If people do not like the foreign policy of the Labor Party or of the Liberal Party they can go to the ballot box and vote as they wish. [More…]
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This is one of the ugliest, most unstable, most reckless and most irresponsible actions of any Minister who has been in this Parliament and it deserves the vote of no confidence which is implicit in the amendment. [More…]
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As I said, instead of moving a vote of no confidence in the AttorneyGeneral honourable senators opposite should be applauding him for acting in a responsible manner. [More…]
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I think that they have circumvented the real argument for debate by switching their attack to a vote of no confidence in the Attorney-General of Australia. [More…]
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That is a cowardly act by people who know from a simple arithmetical exercise that if they get the support of those from whom they can normally expect to get it they will be able to outvote the Australian Labor Party and hoodwink the electorate on the false premise that the majority of honourable senators in this chamber have no faith or confidence in the Attorney-General. [More…]
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They have sought to play another ball game knowing that they have got the numbers, by entering into the despicable exercise of endeavouring to carry a vote of no confidence in Senator Murphy. [More…]
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I know that the present Government, when in opposition, made several attempts to do so, but from what I can gather - I have some conversations with an authority on the subject and studied it - it seems that such a vote of no confidence is possibly not the right way for the Senate to record its disapproval. [More…]
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Of course, it is a very serious thing for us to have to vote on a motion of want of confidence in the Attorney-General, Senator Murphy. [More…]
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They should be thinking of Senator Greenwood and Senator Murphy before they vote on this stupid amendment that is presently before the Senate. [More…]
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I am not endeavouring to persuade honourable senators opposite to alter the way in which they will vote, so they might listen to me in silence. [More…]
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To this end we intend to amend the law so that, as far as may be practicable, the value of the vote of one citizen shall be equivalent to the vote of another. [More…]
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In general, the 1965 amendments diluted the value of the vote in metropolitan areas and weighted it in favour of the rural areas. [More…]
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We never accepted them as a proper basis for redistribution, nor do we accept the proposition that the relative value of a person’s vote should depend upon his geographical location. [More…]
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The factors which the Distribution Commissioners must consider in determining proposed divisions will be revised by deleting certain factors which the Liberal-Country Party coalition added in 1965 to weight the vote in favour of country electorates. [More…]
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The changes proposed by this Bill will give some meaning to the principle of one vote one value without unnecessarily restricting the Distribution Commissioners in application of the factors when effecting re-distribution. [More…]
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Because everyone entitled to vote must enrol, precise details are always available of the number of electors in a particular area. [More…]
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The Committee, agreed on the principle of one vote one value and recommended that the quota should not vary more than onetenth either way. [More…]
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Every worthwhile authority supports the case for one vote one value, and equality of electorates. [More…]
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Legislators are elected by, voters not farms or cities or economic interests. [More…]
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To the extent that a citizen’s right to vote is debased, he is that much less a citizen. [More…]
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The weight of a citizen’s vote cannot Be made to depend on where he lives. [More…]
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The vote of one person, whatever his occupation or location, should be as good as the vote of the other. [More…]
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At the 1972 elections the Country Party polled 9.44 per cent of the votes, won 20 seats and has 16 per cent voting strength in the House of Representatives. [More…]
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This is a totally different story from the elections of 1954 when the Australian Labor Party polled 50.03 per cent against the combined LiberalCountry Party vote of 47.07 per cent yet was defeated. [More…]
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In 1961 the Labor Party polled 2,534,702 votes, or 46.76 per cent of the votes and in 1969 polled 2,870,792 or 46.95 per cent of the votes. [More…]
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This Bill underlines the Government’s belief that a person’s vote is of equal value no matter where he lives or whatever his occupation. [More…]
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That, in the event of an equality of voting, the Chairman, or the Deputy Chairman when acting as Chairman, have a casting vote. [More…]
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In the event of an equality of voting the Chairman, or the Deputy-Chairman when acting as Chairman, shall have a casting vote. [More…]
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I took the adjournment for a deliberate reason that night, and that was because at that stage the Opposition had not made up its mind whether there ought to be an Opposition point of view or whether we ought to adopt our previous procedures and have a free vote based on the conscience of the individual. [More…]
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The Leader of the Opposition in another place (Mr Snedden), who is the parliamentary Leader of the Liberal Party in this Parliament, has announced already that there will be a free vote for members of the Liberal Party. [More…]
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This is in direct contrast to the position in respect of Government members who will vote as a block in accordance with the policy that they have had laid down for them by outside people. [More…]
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Because of this - because one side is caucused and because members on this side will have a free vote - there will be no pairs for this Bill. [More…]
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The only way in which to test this is to put it to a vote of the people. [More…]
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As far as 1 am aware - I may well be wrong - the only time that this matter has been subjected to a vote of the people was during the Presidential election in the United States last year when the people of California voted in a referendum on the subject. [More…]
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I personally intend to vote against the motion for the second reading of this Bill. [More…]
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On a free vote. [More…]
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Every member of the Liberal Party in this place will vote according to how his conscience moves him. [More…]
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I have not spoken to any of my colleagues about how they ought to vote. [More…]
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It is a matter peculiarly residing within a person’s conscience and I think it would be terrible for anyone to interfere and to indicate how someone else ought to vote on a matter of this kind. [More…]
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It will be for each individual to decide for himself how he will vote on this measure and how he will vote on particular amendments which will be moved in the Committee stage to allow for variations of opinion on the types of offences for which it might be held that the death penalty is an appropriate penalty. [More…]
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In recent times - 1 cannot but believe that this is because of the electoral consequences of holding a different viewpoint - the Labor Party has said expressly that in regard to matters of abortion, the death, the murder, the cessation of life of a foetus in being, there shall be or there may be a conscience vote on the part of its members. [More…]
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However, in regard to the taking of life in circumstances which the law of this country has said justify the taking of life, the Labor Party will permit of no conscience vote. [More…]
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Those are the fundamental reasons why I propose to vote against this Bill in its entirety and why I believe on broader grounds that society at its peril removes the death penalty from the statute book. [More…]
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That basically represents the viewpoint to which I subscribe and on which I will determine the vote I will cast here tonight or whenever the Senate votes upon this matter. [More…]
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The most that those figures revealed was a decided shift or swing in public opinion away from an emphatic affirmative vote in favour of the retention of the death penalty which accounted for 68 per cent of the community as reflected in the gallup poll taken in 1947. [More…]
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The electorate in that State voted 2 to 1 - the figures were 5,400,000 to 2,600,000 - in favour of restoring the death penalty for 4 specific types of crime, namely, the prisoner murder of non-prisoners, treason, wrecking a train entailing injury or death, and perjury resulting in execution of the innocent. [More…]
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If a general vote were taken here, I wonder whether public opinion, particularly in the light of certain types of crimes which have been occurring with an alarming frequency in recent times, might not affirmatively seek to retain and to have carried out in particular instances the death penalty. [More…]
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I must say that for my part I wonder whether the Australian community might not reflect the attitudes which President Nixon believes ought to prevail in the United States and which the people of the State of California indicated by their vote. [More…]
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Notwithstanding that, the general opinion which seems to be culled from every public opinion poll which is held indicates a very substantial vote of persons who would seek to retain the death penalty. [More…]
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I have sought in the course of a fairly long speech, Mr Deputy President, to express certain views as to why I propose to vote against this measure, and the character of the views I have expressed has been meant to be persuasive, if not to this audience to a larger audience. [More…]
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As the Leader of the Opposition indicated, the Liberal Party, unlike the Australian Labor Party, is exercising a free vote on this issue so that its members can vote according to the way they view this measure. [More…]
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We know it will be carried as a result of the phalanx of votes which must go one way since the result would be absolutely disastrous to a member of the Labor Party who was not prepared to vote as his Party dictates. [More…]
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It will be carried only because the free vote which the Liberal Party allows and the independence of mind of some Liberal senators will ensure that it is carried. [More…]
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The fact that it can be predicted that this Bill will pass through the Senate arises purely because of the fact that in the Opposition, both Liberal Party and the Country Party, there is no tied or demanded vote though certainly there will be some members certainly in my own Party, the Country Party, who will vote with the Government on this matter since they believe in conscience that the death penalty should be abolished under federal law. [More…]
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Many of them hold the views which I hold for they have said privately to me: ‘We believe that the death penalty should be retained’, but they have not the intestinal fortitude to stand up here and vote that way. [More…]
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If they vote against their Party they will find that they face the same kind of situation that Captain Sam Benson faced when he voted against his Party in the other House. [More…]
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I am proud, however, that within the Opposition there will be some members who wish to vote in favour of capital punishment being abolished. [More…]
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I think that a trend has developed in the community which shows that people generally would expect senators and members to have a free vote on this matter. [More…]
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It is regrettable, as I say, that Labor members will not have a free vote - but there are a number of things associated with the Labor Party about which one has deep regrets, including the recent discussion on the Australian Security Intelligence Organisation. [More…]
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There are many supporting arguments, but I make this point: While I face the fact that in the next few months the death penalty will be abolished from Federal statutes due to the fact that there will be no division among the Labor Party - its members will vote on this matter irrespective of their individual thoughts - there is a further argument that an enraged public may demand extreme punishment and that the state has an obligation to carry out the will of society. [More…]
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On 2 of those occasions, the Senate indicated by its vote that a majority of honourable senators supported the view of the [More…]
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It is appreciated that the Liberal Party has granted its members a free vote on this matter. [More…]
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Liberal members are not being instructed on how they should vote. [More…]
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As is known, if one can take any notice of Press reports, the decision to grant a free vote on this issue was taken against the express wish of the Leader of the Opposition in the other place (Mr Snedden). [More…]
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As a condition of greater recognition and the granting of assistance to local government by the Federal Government, will the Minister take steps to ensure that to qualify for the benefits proposed, municipal elections be required to come into line with Federal and State elections, and to be based on a compulsory vote of enrolled municipal electors? [More…]
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As to whether what is called compulsory voting but which is not compulsory voting - it is compulsorily placing oneself in a position where, free of any intimidation or pressure, one can decide whether to vote - ought to be universal in Australia,I think that there are perhaps strong reasons why it should be universal. [More…]
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No vote, no resolution in any place other than this House- [More…]
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Will the Minister also convey to his colleague the absurd situation of giving a vote to the breeders of polwarth, zenith and corriedale sheep as they have a vested interest in maintaining the embargo, the reason being that such breeders are able to export rams which, because of their close relationship to merinos, are able to command high prices while the ban exists? [More…]
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As I have said, I would appreciate an assurance from the Attorney-General before I am called upon to vote on this Bill on whether the onus of proof does lie upon the individual whose extradition is being sought, because it that were so it would be absolutely impossible for me to vote for a provision of that character. [More…]
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I well remember supporting in this House a move by Senator Murphy for its abolition, but we did not get the support of Senator Laucke, who has indicated that he would not vote with us to repeal the legislation. [More…]
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All I said was that he could have instructed the Whip that he did not want to be paired when the vote was taken on that particular legislation. [More…]
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I am happy to know that for the first time since the imposition of this excise the South Australian senators who are members of the Liberal and Country League, or whatever it is called now that it is so torn asunder, will vote for the abolition of this excise. [More…]
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Having heard all of the evidence from the industry, having been pushed from pillar to post even by its own members, as they have said in the party rooms in this Parliament - but they did not have the courage to vote against the excise in this chamber - it was the view of the Government that in the light of the Committee’s report the problems besetting some growers and co-operatives were not solely or even largely due to the imposition of the excise. [More…]
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Every time the Labor Party made an effort to bring it on, he voted against it. [More…]
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He voted against the motion for the suspension of Standing Orders, and he voted against his own motion on every occasion until last week, I think it was, when in the House of Representatives for the first time he voted for the abolition of the wine excise just as his colleagues in this place will vote tonight. [More…]
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But it took the election of a Labor Government to put in a position where they could vote against the wine excise these members of the Liberal Party who tell the electors they are men of free choice. [More…]
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This is what I meant when I said that these members say one thing in this Parliament, vote another way in this Parliament and say something else in the electorate. [More…]
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Because of the good vote he got his Party ran candidates in the State election and won seats. [More…]
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Indeed, if we are unwise and vote too much money too soon for this work it may be spent unwisely. [More…]
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I received at least 75 per cent of the total vote cast by all Aborigines and Torres Strait Islanders living in Aboriginal and Torres Strait Island communities. [More…]
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But in relation to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Island communities I have obtained a very good idea of how the people voted. [More…]
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I think it would be ridiculous to expect a private senator to break a trip which had been arranged for months and to return at his own expense merely for one or 2 days in order to vote. [More…]
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But we in the Senate are elected on the same franchise as are the members of the House of Representatives and are voted for by many more people than vote for any individual member in the House of Representatives. [More…]
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As I said about a previous motion, no amount of argument of persuasion will make the slightest difference to the vote on the proposition which has been put forward. [More…]
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Those honourable senators on whose behalf it has been propounded will vote for it. [More…]
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Doubtlessly, again, logic will go out the door and sheer weight of numbers will come in, and if this motion is put to the vote 1 assume it will be carried. [More…]
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He pointed out then that it is hardly the time for honourable senators opposite to be calling for an inquiry into the facts surrounding the whole Croatian terrorism affair, for which this motion is pleading, when only a week ago they voted solemnly and confidently as though they were in possession of irrefutable evidence. [More…]
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They voted to censure a Minister of the Australian Government who was elected unopposed by his fellow members of the Federal Parliamentary Labor Party. [More…]
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They were so sure when they voted last week. [More…]
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If they were so sure of their facts as to move and vote for a motion of censure of a senior Minister of the Crown last week, they stand condemned by this motion this evening. [More…]
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He said that it did not matter how long we wanted to debate this subject and it did not matter how much logic we applied, he was going to get a vote tonight. [More…]
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On this occasion honourable senators on the other side of the House have a free vote on the subject. [More…]
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Labor Party senators will not have a free vote on this question because it is and it has been for a long time Labor Party policy to abolish the death penalty. [More…]
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We know in advance how honourable senators on this side of the chamber will vote and we have had some indication that sufficient of the progressive element on the other side of the chamber will vote with us to ensure the success of this Bill in this chamber. [More…]
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Discussions will be held with the States aimed at providing local government in each State with a voice and vote in the deliberations of the Loan Council. [More…]
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Is the Minister aware that the same religious group is persuading young children to write letters to Federal parliamentarians urging them to vote against the reform of abortion law in the Australian Capital Territory and the Northern Territory? [More…]
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From 1954 to 1956 hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people voted with their feet by marching out of North Vietnam because they did not wish to live under communism. [More…]
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In view of the purge, would anybody in North Vietnam who had the right to vote have been able to vote freely? [More…]
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I say that this is happening without our approval because the Australian people have never been given any opportunity to vote on these issues. [More…]
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They never will be given that opportunity by the Australian Labor Party because the members of that Party know how the people of this country would vote. [More…]
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We do know that the 2 per cent or 3 per cent of the people who swung to vote for Mr Whitlam and replaced the anti-socialist Government with a socialist Government were impressed - as I am - with the very fine stature of Mr Whitlam and his excellent presentation. [More…]
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He says: ‘We won the vote. [More…]
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We won this vote. [More…]
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If a senator challenges the President’s declaration because he wishes to have his vote recorded, not because his vote is contrary to the President’s declaration, the division would have to be called off. [More…]
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They are entitled to vote and to register their opinion. [More…]
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In the light of the new development in the Senate with the emergence of independent senators, we should look at the Standing Orders to see whether there is some way in which the votes of honourable senators in respect of a particular matter can be registered. [More…]
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In such a case a division is not called for, or at least it docs nol take place, but a senator who wishes his vote to be recorded can ask for his name to be recorded in the journals. [More…]
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I have sat in this chamber on many occasions when you have called for honourable senators to vote aye or no and you have received no response. [More…]
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I recall that previously a free vote was held on this subject. [More…]
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If we are going to have 26 honourable senators on the Government side who act spinelessly and let the Prime Minister get away with his, why are they not upstanding in the Senate to say: ‘Let us vote ourselves out of office.’ [More…]
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Members of the Liberal and Country parties will have a free vote on the Death Penalty Abolition Bill which seeks to abolish capital punishment in the Territories of the Commonwealth. [More…]
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I think it is important to state this fact at the outset because the matter of a free vote has several features of importance. [More…]
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A free vote is sometimes called a conscience vote. [More…]
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1 do not know which term is the more correct term, but I think everybody in the Senate understands what we mean when we refer to a free vote or a conscience vote. [More…]
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It is appreciated that the Opposition has a free vote on the Bill. [More…]
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It has been pointed out that the Government is bound by a caucus vote and a policy vote, and it is important to record the difference. [More…]
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A free vote is something which is valued, particularly where matters of conscience are concerned, because it involves a personal decision. [More…]
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All these things will influence anyone who has to express and record a deliberate vote and who may express a free or conscience vote. [More…]
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These things will also influence the decision of anyone who has to make this free vote within the environment of the Parliament. [More…]
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All these things influence the judgment of those who have a free vote. [More…]
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We will have a free and personal vote. [More…]
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If I make the claim that we have the benefit of a conscience vote and if I make the claim that I am able to exercise my conscience vote in support of the Bill, which is what I propose to do, I think it is also very important to say that a conscience vote applies equally as strongly to the people who will oppose the Bill because they, too, examine the kind of things which I have mentioned. [More…]
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So a conscience vote does not apply only to people who have an opposition to capital punishment or to people who recommend the abolition of capital punishment; it applies also to people who have a firm view the other way. [More…]
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Therefore, it has to be emphasised that we who have a free vote on this matter, note the details involved and take them into account; and it has to be inferred that, if there is a caucus vote by any party within this Parliament, the factors to which 1 have referred - 1 maintain that they are important factors - have been ignored by that party. [More…]
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(5.37>- I want to inform the Senate that as far as the Australian Democratic Labor Party is concerned a free vote will be exercised by the members of that Party on this issue. [More…]
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For myself, I have no desire to cast a silent vote on this always controversial question. [More…]
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Before the vote was taken Senator Cavanagh was not able to stand up and say that the Government accepted the proposition for an inquiry. [More…]
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It has had 3 weeks to announce its acceptance of this Committee, and the Minister comes in here 10 minutes after the vote and puts the Whitlam Government so far down the drain as to think that he will impress the Senate with this claim that the Government now stoops to conquer, stoops to accept a resolution that has already been forced on it. [More…]
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I can recall an occasion when we got to the point of proposing that a select committee of the Senate comprise 3 members from either side but conceding to the government all the while the right to have the deliberative vote and the casting vote still in the hands of the chairman of that committee, so that the running of the affairs of that committee would not have been taken out of the hands of the government. [More…]
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The Labor Party conceded to the Government - honourable senators can refresh their minds if they wish from the records of the Parliament - the right to control that Committee by having the majority vote. [More…]
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It could be that the political wastage will be not as a result of a vote of the people of Tasmania but a vote of the Liberal Party. [More…]
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In view of these developments in the English speaking world, does the Minister agree that the current anti-abortion campaign which attacks the Federal Government and the Australian Labor Party is spurious and unprincipled, that the propaganda is misleading and emotional and that members of the Government have a free and unfettered vote on all social issues in the Parliament? [More…]
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In regard to the other matters raised by the honourable senator, it is true that the Australian Labor Party, in the most definite manner, has made it clear that a vote on this question of altering the laws on abortion is a matter for the individual decision of the members of the Party. [More…]
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They may vote asthey wish. [More…]
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They may do that without being bound in any way by any decision of the Party.I think that the decision of the Party was that no section of the Party was entitled to require any person to vote in any particular way or to take any particular action regarding the matter. [More…]
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Can he tell me when Labor Party senators last had a conscience vote in the Senate chamber? [More…]
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Is a conscience vote a new development within the Labor Party? [More…]
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As far as I can recall, on all matters affecting the Standing Orders of this chamber within recent times the members of my Party have voted freely, according to their individual decision. [More…]
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I think it is unwise to use the word ‘conscience’ as one honourable senator, not of my Party, said that it deprived him of a vote. [More…]
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He suggested that those who had no conscience would not be able to vote under those circumstances. [More…]
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There are other matters on which I am quite sure the Australian Labor Party in recent limes has permitted a free vote. [More…]
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It records examples of the free vote as being on the Parliamentary Allowances Bill 1959, the Matrimonial Causes Bill 1959, the Marriage Bill 1961 and the site of the new and permanent parliament house in 1968 and 1969. [More…]
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However, I can recall some measures here on which honourable senators did so vote; they may have voted in much the same way, but they were not strictly bound in any way. [More…]
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When something is in the platform or policy of the Party, that is regarded as an undertaking to the people that members will vote that way. [More…]
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By choosing to stand on our Party’s ticket members virtually contract to vote that way and also to abide by decisions of the Party on various matters. [More…]
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That attitude was that the Opposition was not adopting a party line, as the Government was doing, but that the opportunity was given for every member of the Opposition to vote on this measure as he or she saw fit, that being regarded as consonant with the obligations of members of Parliament on such a vital moral issue upon which opinions run high. [More…]
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We used that principle in contradistinction to the Government’s attitude, which was a forced vote for every member of the Government Party. [More…]
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1 deprecate the attempt by the Leader of the Government in the Senate (Senator Murphy) to introduce Party politics into something which, I understand, has been regarded as a matter upon which the conscience of the individual honourable senator in this chamber should be exercised in a vote which was free from Party politics. [More…]
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In this chamber I have always supported the legislation and have voted only one way in relation to it. [More…]
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If ever I uttered words seriously it was when I said by way of interjection to Senator Murphy that he would lose the situation which existed on the vote on the second reading if he continued with the sort of spurious argument which he was putting forward. [More…]
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The vote on this Bill, if ever there was one, is a conscience vote. [More…]
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I only regret that the Labor Party has not seen fit to make it a conscience vote. [More…]
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As recently as this afternoon we heard Senator Murphy during question time talking about conscience votes on the part of the Labor Party. [More…]
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I suppose it could be argued by each honourable member representing an electorate that he should vote in accordance with the will of the people in that electorate, whether they voted for or against the Government’s policy. [More…]
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It is frequently said that a debate on this subject is a debate of conscience, that it involves a conscience vote and that one ought to be free to decide these things. [More…]
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It so happens that the supporters of the present Government, when in Opposition, were free to vote in conscience. [More…]
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Then the next speaker from the Government side of the chamber should get up and say publicly that in both Houses this will involve a conscience vote of the Government, too. [More…]
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It was a plank of the platform of the Labor Party in September 1971 whel there was a conscience vote. [More…]
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In 1971 the members of the Labor Party said in this House that they were going to vote on conscience. [More…]
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Lest anyone have any doubts on this, I believe that no matter how important the issue of capital punishment is it ought to be no more a ground for a conscience vote than any other measure before this Parliament. [More…]
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Without appearing to be too pious, while I remain a member of this chamber 1 hope to be free to move and vote according to my conscience on any issue. [More…]
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That magistrate eventually retired, and when he stood for election to the city council his vote was always near the top of the poll. [More…]
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There was vote of 2 to 1 in favour of the reintroduction of the death penalty. [More…]
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Twothirds of the people who voted voted for its reintroduction. [More…]
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I will admit that the vote was given terrific impetus by reason of the fact that a gang of young fellows who were going down the road in a motor car had a gun, and as they went along the road they shot a 2- year-old toddler who was in a yard. [More…]
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In the event of an equality of voting the Chairman, or the Deputy Chairman when acting as Chairman, shall have a casting vote. [More…]
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In fact, on many occasions when we vote in our party rooms our vote is based on all sorts of reasons. [More…]
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This attempt by Senator Gair, supported obviously by all members of the Opposition, to have this motion brought on is not only an attempt to get at Senator Murphy when this Senate is being broadcast - the matter can still proceed tomorrow night in the normal way when Senator Murphy will be here - but also a deliberate attempt to deprive the many hundreds of thousands of Australians of assistance which will be justly given to them and which they demanded by their vote on 2nd December. [More…]
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As I pointed out at that stage, the mere fact of some temporary electoral insanity in the 2 largest States should not affect the Senate, especially as my colleague, Senator Bonner, was returned to the Senate on the same day by the vote of the whole of Queensland. [More…]
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We are ready now, if you vote against Senator Gair’s motion. [More…]
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If there was any remorse on the part of the honourable senator and if he thought that he should cleanse himself, when the vote was being taken to take away from another senator the right to speak - that senator having presented him with the opportunity to move the gag - could have done something about it. [More…]
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Until the recent vote the Opposition had the numbers. [More…]
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Therefore, as a result of our vote tonight, we could well see unemployment in the home construction section of the building industry in the various States, and many of the people who otherwise would get rental homes will now be without them because of the action of the Australian Democratic Labor Party and the support given by the united Opposition. [More…]
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On previous occasions Senator Greenwood has always found some reason to delay the Senate taking a vote on this Bill. [More…]
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Whatever obtuse reasons he gave for moving the gag were completely exploded when, on the issue of whether the gag should be applied, he supported the gag by his vote. [More…]
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Was a vote taken? [More…]
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That motion would have had the effect, if carried, of bringing the original motion to a vote and thereby resolving it immediately. [More…]
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They voted against the motion. [More…]
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If we are prepared to have this matter resolved sensibly so that we can vote upon the issue as to whether we will debate Government Business or General Business, the thing to do is to have a vote on this motion and let the numbers in the Senate determine the issue. [More…]
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That, in the event of an equality of voting, the Chairman, or the Deputy-Chairman when acting as Chairman, shall have a casting vote. [More…]
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That except where the Committee by vote otherwise decides hearings shall be open to the public; [More…]
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supporters pf a .Labor Government which does not want this motion brought to a vote. [More…]
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When this motion comes to a vote, if honourable senators on the Government side vote against it they will be voting against everything they argued’ for some 7 months ago. [More…]
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I am happy to say that it does not worry me 2 hoots which way other senators vote. [More…]
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I will support it, but I will vote against the motion even if the amendment is carried. [More…]
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If my amendment is carried, I propose to vote against the motion because I think the Opposition is wasting its time. [More…]
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No senator shall reflect upon any Vole of the Senate, except for the purpose of moving that such Vote be rescinded. [More…]
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H is not a reflection upon a vote to comment upon persons who engage in conduct that we have seen for the first time, I am sure, in the experience of many people who have been around this place as officers of the Parliament reporting the Parliament. [More…]
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I believe that the mild remarks made by Senator Rae are remarks properly made in the circumstances and ought not to be ruled upon by you in the circumstances as being in any way a reflection upon the vote of the Senate. [More…]
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I heard some words which I thought were the beginning of words that may have been a reflection on the vote that had just taken place. [More…]
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We were hoping, as a result of what was said today, that because only a short period would be involved the Opposition would vote with us to oppose the motion for the adjournment of the Senate and permit the Housing Assistance Bill and the Defence Services Homes Bill to be passed tonight. [More…]
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I ought to inform the Senate that, as I moved to the seats on your right hand, Mr President, to vote on the matter, I was informed by the Opposition Whip, Senator Young, that he had been informed by the Government Whip, Senator O’Byrne, that all pairs were off. [More…]
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I would like to make this comment: Whilst this is primarily a Senate matter - I can understand that perhaps the Government has no need for pairs in this place; it may think that it will always be in the minority if the 3 Opposition groups combine and therefore a pair or two does not matter, and that whether the Government loses by one vote or by 4 votes is immaterial - I, of course, must have discussions with my parliamentary leader, the Leader of the Opposition in another place, because if the same course were adopted by the Opposition in the other place - at this moment I have no knowledge of whether it would be adopted - the working of government would become impossible. [More…]
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Let me say this: In every parliament in the Westminster system, if there is anything which amounts to a vote of confidence all pairs are off. [More…]
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When the Opposition persisted in refusing even to give the Government equality of representation - not a casting vote, but simply equality of representation - on a. committee which was to be set up for the whole purpose, and the only purpose, as Senator Carrick said, to aim at the Attorney-General, the Government was entitled to take the view - and my Whip took the view - that this was a motion of no confidence and that in those circumstances he would not agree to any pairs in the Senate. [More…]
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The Government, without notice, without any indication beforehand that this course was to be adopted, and in order to secure a vote favourable to it, decided that all pairs would be called off. [More…]
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Senator Murphy said that this vote tonight was tantamount to a vote of confidence in a Minister and therefore there was some unwritten rule that he could break the pairs. [More…]
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That was carried on 4th April on a vote in which there were pairs. [More…]
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So if , as Sena tor Murphy pleads tonight, there is any merit in or justification for calling off the pairs, why did he not do it on an earlier occasion when there was a vote of no confidence? [More…]
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However, the basic fact is - I remember Senator Murphy saying this on occasions when he, then in Opposition, could persuade the Australian Democratic Labor Party or the independent senators to vote with the then Opposition - that it is the vote of the Senate which is important. [More…]
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Therefore, we should give greater weight to the vote of the Senate. [More…]
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Tonight when it is a vote of the Senate with which he disagrees) - we are all the more interested now to find out why the Government does not want to have an inquiring select committee established - he decides that this is the occasion when he will break one of the traditional arrangements in this place. [More…]
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We have just listened to another attack upon the credibility on the Leader of the Government in this chamber (Senator Murphy) and, indeed, upon the vote of the Australian people. [More…]
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We of the Government took this motion to be a vote of no confidence in our Leader. [More…]
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The traditions of the Senate are that no pairs are granted in a vote on a motion of no confidence. [More…]
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When that vote was taken and we saw that the arrogant, authoritarian and irresponsible Opposition was not prepared to observe the courtesies of the Senate I decided that pairs were off. [More…]
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From the point of view of honourable senators on this side, this was as much a conscience vote as any vote we have ever taken. [More…]
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The first thing that honourable senators opposite did some weeks ago when they were attacking Senator Murphy day after day during question time was decide that 3 people - the leaders of the 3 minority parties in Opposition - could without a vote by their fellow senators decide to recall the Senate. [More…]
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When the Government suggested that a vote should be taken and that it would accept the proposition if the vote was supported by each of the members of those parties, honourable senators opposite rejected the suggestion, lt was undemocratic. [More…]
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Tension has been building up ever since the Parliament reassembled in February and its became very obvious that something had to happen to resolve the impossible position in which the combined vote of the Opposition was placing the Government. [More…]
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Are we to take it that Liberal Party senators will vote en bloc? [More…]
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Is that what Senator Withers, Senator Greenwood, Senator Wright and Senator Young are putting to the Senate and to the Australian people, that the 3 votes that Senator Young claims were denied tonight were votes automatically to be cast in support of the motion submitted by the Democratic Labor Party? [More…]
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Is that what parliamentary democracy is about, that those votes would have automatically been for the adoption of the motion? [More…]
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Let me say in closing the debate that there will be no pairs in the vote on this question. [More…]
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They are an arrangement between parties to ensure that if a vote is taken a Party will not lose its majority because one of its members is not here. [More…]
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When there is a conscience vote in the Senate, all pairs are off. [More…]
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It will not now be necessary for 50 per cent of the enrolled membership to vote in an amalgamation ballot. [More…]
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For example, in an amalgamation ballot in which 51 per cent of the membership voted, and 51 per cent of those voting were in favour, the proposal would be carried even though only 26.01 per cent of the total membership voted in favour. [More…]
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Contrast this with a ballot in which 49 per cent voted and 90 per cent of the voters favoured amalgamation. [More…]
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Under the Liberal Government’s legislation this proposal would be defeated even though 44 per cent of the total membership voted in favour. [More…]
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Clearly the proper approach is to give every member the opportunity to vote and require him to accept the verdict of those voting. [More…]
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Financial members are to be given an absolute right to vote in any election for office bearers and in plebescites touching rules or policy. [More…]
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Membership of the one did not entitle a person to vote in the elections of the other, although that had always been the practice for nearly 60 years. [More…]
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At the outset I should like to state quite categorically that the Liberal Party will vote against the second reading of this Bill. [More…]
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If the second reading of the Bill is carried, we will vote against every clause of the Bill at the Committee stage. [More…]
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If the Bill is not defeated at that point we will vote against it at the third reading stage. [More…]
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If we succeed in defeating this Bill and the Government wants to bring it forward again in 3 months’ time, we will vote against the Bill again. [More…]
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Honourable senators will recall that that Bill related to the provision that 18-year-olds be able to vote and it was supported by the Liberal Opposition. [More…]
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Of course Mr Daly has made great play on the slogan ‘one vote, one value*. [More…]
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There would not be equality and the provision of a 10 per cent variation instead of 20 per cent is not going to make votes any more equal. [More…]
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There is no requirement for it to be altered and altering it is not going to give one vote, one value’. [More…]
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The real crux of the matter is that the Australian Labor Party is not interested in the principle of one man, one vote, one value. [More…]
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The Labor Party is not interested at all in having one vote one value. [More…]
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This Bill is just the first step on the way to redistributing the electorate on a population basis - that is, equal numbers of people, not voters, in electorates. [More…]
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On this basis we could end up with equal populations in electorates but with 40,000 voters in one electorate and 60,000 voters in another. [More…]
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Is this one man, one vote, one value? [More…]
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The voters of this nation will not keep it in government, as the figures of the latest gall up poll show. [More…]
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Only once in the period that the Liberal-Country Party Government was in power did the ALP receive more than 50 per cent of the primary vote and not attain office. [More…]
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I repeat what I said: Only once in the period that the LiberalCountry Party Government was in power did the Australian Labor Party receive more than 50 per cent of the primary vote and not attain office. [More…]
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But, in all other cases, the moment a party received roughly 50 per cent of the vote, as the Labor Party did last December, it attained office. [More…]
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As evidence of the fairness of boundaries drawn up under the previous Government, we have only to observe that the ALP received 49.6 per cent of the first preference vote last December and was able to win government. [More…]
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If a party received 50 per cent of the vote, it won government. [More…]
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If it did not receive 50 per cent of the vote, it stayed in Opposition. [More…]
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But the simple fact is that if one looks at the statistics of the primary votes of this country over a period of some 30 years one will find that the party or the group of parties that received the greatest primary vote took office. [More…]
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In my belief, a gerrymander takes place when a party receives the majority of the vote but gets the minority of the seats disproportionately. [More…]
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It starts off with the simple proposition of one vote, one value. [More…]
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Harking back to metropolitan Sydney, if the previous Government wanted the electorate of the former Prime Minister, Mr McMahon, to straddle the Parramatta River, in order to maintain some community of interest all it had to do to maintain this mythical quota was let the electorate straddle the Parramatta River and cover areas of the Benelong electorate, including Gladesville which had some semblance of a swinging vote. [More…]
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I am trying to point out the confusion there would be if we were debating with the DLP the advantage of running candidates whose names began with ‘A* or whether we should vote for half the Senate plus one senator. [More…]
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It wants a general redistribution on a basis that would reduce the rural voice in this Parliament and maximise the power of the Labor vote in the cities. [More…]
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We shall be subjected in this debate to a welter of words about the so called principle of one vote one value. [More…]
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All sorts of nonsense will be talked about it but let me say now that there can never be a mathematical equality of voting numbers nor can there be equality of representation with one vote one value. [More…]
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Why does the Government tolerate such a gross violation of the principle of one vote one value in that State that with a total population of 390,000 at 30th June 1971 it elects 10 senators, the same number as New South Wales elects with a population of 4.6 million? [More…]
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I suggest to the Senate that the Labor Party machinery itself makes a mockery of that Party’s call for one vote one value. [More…]
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In a vast, sparsely populated country such as Australia it is the only fair means of ensuring equal voice for the needs of all voters. [More…]
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The principle of one vote one value is admirable, but in practice it can mean only under-representation for rural areas and centralisation of political control. [More…]
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Both the Prime Minister (Mr Whitlam) and the Minister for Services and Property (Mr Daly), ‘ who introduced this Bill in the other place, have been advocating the optional preferential system of voting under which people could vote for a single candidate or a number of candidates in order of preference. [More…]
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For that reason, the Country Party strongly opposes this Bill and will vote against its passage at all stages of its consideration. [More…]
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The principle underlying the Bill is the philosophy of one vote one value. [More…]
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We will be endeavouring, as far as practicable, to maintain that the value of the vote of one citizen shall be the equivalent of the value of the vote of another. [More…]
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One does not need to be a mathematical wizard or a student to know that under the present set-up one division can have 50 per cent more voters than another. [More…]
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That proves that one division can have 50 per cent more voters than another. [More…]
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I do not need to remind the Senate that territorial representation is the direct reverse of one vote one value. [More…]
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In short, the 2 pertinent conclusions which the Committee reached were that wherever possible the philosophy of one vote one value had to be followed and that the permissible variation from the established quota of electors should be one-tenth or 10 per cent, not 20 per cent. [More…]
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As 1 have said, they recommended that wherever possible the principle of one vote one value should apply and that the permissible variation in the quota should be one-tenth, which is what this socalled drastic piece of legislation which we have before us provides. [More…]
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I know that he will do the right thing when the vote is taken. [More…]
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That equality is not maintained if the vote of a person in one part of the country has a greater effect in securing parliamentary representation than the vote of a person in another part of the country. [More…]
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The idea that every voter is equal to every other voter in his State when he casts his ballot in favour of one of several competing candidates underlies many of our decisions. [More…]
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But once the class of voters is chosen and their qualifications specified, we see no constitutional way, in which equality of voting may be evaded. [More…]
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The conception of political equality, from the Declaration of Independence to Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address, to the fifteenth, seventeenth and nineteenth amendments, can mean only one thing - one person one vote. [More…]
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A vote against this Bill certainly is a big step towards the destruction of that principle. [More…]
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Senator Gair pointed out that the DLP knew that the ALP would seek the passage of legislation to give the vote to 18-year-olds not because it had any particular feeling for youth but because it believed that that would help it to obtain at least 2 to 3 per cent improvement in voting at future elections. [More…]
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He then pointed out that the ALP would propose a reduction of the loading in favour of rural electorates from 20 per cent to 10 per cent for the purpose of increasing the benefit of the vote from the big cities. [More…]
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The argument on the Executive was whether to tell these officers to transfer 6,000 votes over the river from Richmond to Fawkner so that Bill Bourke would win. [More…]
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We are told that we have to vote for this Bill because it represents one vote one value, as though there were some mysterious value in the one vote one value system. [More…]
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The other day I was reading a statement by a South Australian, politician - this will appeal to the Minister for Works (Senator Cavanagh) in which he pointed out that in the recent election in that State the Labor Party received SI per cent of the votes and won 57 per cent of the seats. [More…]
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It was not one vote one value there. [More…]
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No matter how one tries to line the seats up one will never get one vote one value. [More…]
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The doctrine of one vote one value interests me. [More…]
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Let honourable senators opposite, all those leading personalities of the trade union movement, tell me where there is a one vote one value voting system adopted in respect of a trades hall council. [More…]
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Let them tell me of one Australian Council of Trade Unions conference where there is one vote one value. [More…]
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On the Federal Executive of the Australian Labor Party there are 2 delegates from each State, but there is not one vote one value. [More…]
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At the Federal Conference of the Australian Labor Party there are 6 delegates from each State but there is not one vote one value. [More…]
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When I was defeated in 1961 I received 200,000 votes. [More…]
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In Tasmania 10 senators received 180,000 votes. [More…]
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Does it not believe in one vote one value? [More…]
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When it comes to the point our friends here believe in one vote one value but in their own Party there is hardly one organisation which stands on one vote one value. [More…]
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In 1961 I received 200,000 votes and I did not win a seat. [More…]
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Senator O’Byrne nods his head, so he does not believe in one vote one value. [More…]
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He believes in the system under which 10 honourable senators can each receive 18,000 votes but a man who stands for Parliament and receives 200,000 votes does not obtain a seat. [More…]
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Why all the guff about one vote one value when the Labor Party has a different system for ils Federal Conference? [More…]
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When the vote was taken the States- [More…]
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Even when Mr Beazley came back, unconstitutionally and illegally the vote was given to Webb although Beazley was in the country and entitled to vote. [More…]
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On that occasion the split was caused by the votes of one-quarter of the Labor membership of this country which determined on the split in opposition to the votes of three-quarters of the Labor membership. [More…]
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When people talk to me about one vote one value I always remember the statement of the late Sir Arthur Fadden who said: Where you people have got them is this: You know where the bodies are buried.’ [More…]
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Reference was made to the fact that the DLP to obtain votes was supposed to select people whose names began with the first letters of the alphabet. [More…]
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The Australian Labor Party had more candidates in the top bracket of the alphabet who received the donkey vote than did the Democratic Labor Party. [More…]
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Only the quota-preferential method comes anywhere near satisfying the criterion of justice to all electors, whereunder their right can be realised to cast a useful vote that takes part in the election of a Parliament. [More…]
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The committee draws attention to Table 1 which demonstrates glaringly the number of electorates in Victoria under which all Labor voters are disfranchised . [More…]
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If I put up to the Government tomorrow a system of quota preferential which, according to the ALP’s own committee, would be better for the ALP as well as for us, the Government would vote against it because even if it was of benefit to the Government, the Government could not stand it doing any good for the DLP. [More…]
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No, he would be in the chicken vote. [More…]
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To test the fairness of each electoral method, the number of wasted votes was calculated. [More…]
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A wasted vote is one which would not have changed the outcome had it not been cast. [More…]
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It was found that under the preferential system 50 per cent of votes were wasted. [More…]
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With first past the post more than 60 per cent of votes were wasted: They did not help to elect a candidate. [More…]
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It was found that the wastage of votes dropped from 50 per cent or 60 per cent to 12.5 per cent. [More…]
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I say in conclusion that since the matter of electoral justice has been raised by the Government - it says this is a vote on electoral justice - we are unable to vote for this Bill because on the evidence that I have presented it does not give electoral justice. [More…]
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Therefore we will vote against the Bill, and tomorrow we will give consideration at our Party meeting to moving an amendment which will ask the Senate to establish the principle which is set out in these documents that proportional representation does give electoral justice.I seek leave, Mr Acting Deputy President, to table the documents to which I have referred, namely, the report of the committee of the Victorian branch of the Australian Labor Party, the statement by Mr Clyde Cameron and the report of the mathematics masters who have examined the different systems of voting. [More…]
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The most interesting speech of the night was Senator Drake-Brockman’s in which he stated his opposition to this Bill because he put up a lot of spurious arguments about how the Country Party would be denied electoral advantage if we brought in the one vote one value system. [More…]
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The Labor Party holds 22 rural seats in the Commonwealth, which shows quite clearly that we are not afraid of the one vote one value system. [More…]
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Country Party and which recommended one vote one value and 10 per cent variation either way from the quota, which gives Country Party members, if they want to juggle the books, a 20 per cent advantage in any case. [More…]
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They want the votes of 4 people in the country to equal the votes of 6 people in the city. [More…]
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At least 56 per cent of electors must vote Labor before the Labor Party can actually govern with a workable majority. [More…]
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The reason why these 2 parties are proposing this action is that separately they cannot stand on their own feet and face the people under a democratic system in which the electors make a judgment on a one vote one value basis. [More…]
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The intention of the Opposition Parties to vote against this Bill has been announced. [More…]
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I ask clear thinking senators to vote for this legislation so that Australia may come closer to true democracy in its electoral system. [More…]
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At the previous election a Western Australian vote was worth less than a vote in any other State. [More…]
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1 know that the cry of one vote one value is essentially the cry for a mathematical equality of seats so far as numbers of electors are concerned, and this ideal of one vote one value is inherent in the present proposals. [More…]
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It seems that everybody on the other side of the chamber is in favour of the principle of one vote one value, provided that we do not have it. [More…]
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In the last election the Country Party won 9.44 per cent of the votes but it ho ds 16 per cent of the seats in the Mouse of Representatives; it holds 20 seats. [More…]
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After getting 5t times as many votes, the Australian Labor Party holds less than 3i times as many seats. [More…]
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Honourable senators opposite who claim that they are interested in electoral justice and that they are interested in one vote one value but can defend those discrepancies are either blind or very, very insincere. [More…]
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I point out to those honourable senators who have paid lip service to this one vote, one value principle tonight that it would give the power and control of the Government to a handful of people. [More…]
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But, in fact, that representation is given in defiance of the principle of one vote, one value. [More…]
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This Government has said: ‘Everything that we do electorally will be done on the principle of one vote, one value’. [More…]
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Where is the principle of one vote, one value? [More…]
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For that matter, where is the principle of one vote, one value when it is proposed to allow 2 senators for the Australian Capital Territory, which has something less than the quotas for 2 electorates? [More…]
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What is happening is that in this legislation, as now proposed, the Government cites the principle of one vote, one value when this suits it and drops it when it does not suit it. [More…]
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Then you vote for that, Senator. [More…]
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That is the true: test of a proper electoral system; the true test of the principle of one vote ope ‘ value which is being humbugged in the mouths of members of the Labor Party in this debate. [More…]
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The: true test is that a party which gets the majority of votes shall get the majority of seats. [More…]
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That is proof of the principle of at least one vote one value. [More…]
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I repeat also that if .the principle of one vote one value is to be tested it has to be applied to an electoral system so, in the end, the conjunction of all the electorates and their results produce a majority of votes and a majority of seats. [More…]
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lt is important to examine whether the principle of one vote one value would work in Australia in the current electoral climate better at a tolerance of 20 per cent or 10 per cent. [More…]
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Indeed, by that device one gets the best of all possible chances that the one vote one value principle will operate. [More…]
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Clearly, at any time in an electorate which has more electors enrolled than the quota set, the value of the vote of an elector in that electorate would be less than in an electorate which has fewer electors than the quota prescribes. [More…]
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If such a population declines from above the quota to below the quota the value of a vote evens out over a cycle. [More…]
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I say to the Senate that to express best the principle of one vote one value a tolerance of 20 per cent should be adopted. [More…]
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It is important because of the rapid growth in the provincial seats in the suburbs of Melbourne and Sydney, lt is important that those seats should be put below the quota so that they can grow above the quota and in the cycle the principle of one vote one value can be evened out. [More…]
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We have observed the principle of one vote one value better than any other country. [More…]
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accordance .with the principle of one vote, one value’. [More…]
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I want to say that on the votes- cast in the ballot box in my State . [More…]
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of New South Wales in December 1972, one country vote, taking into account the electorate of Darling and all these other large electorates, was equal to 1.06 extra metropolitan votes. [More…]
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The value, of a vote is to be judged not only by its value in the ballot box. [More…]
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If we have weakened representation of a country electorate such as Darling caused by a superficiality of knowledge, a vote in that country electorate has not the value of a vote in a city electorate such as Phillip which has an area of 3 square miles. [More…]
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So the concept of one vote, one value is enormously complex. [More…]
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As I say, if we were to remove the electorate of Darling from New South Wales and leave in the electorate of Eden-Monaro - it would take 2 days to drive around its 122 polling places - one country vote at the last general election was equal to 1.04 extra metropolitan votes. [More…]
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The Government that mouths the principle of one vote, one value is seeking to bring about a gerrymander of a massive kind, despite the fact that gallup polls are now starting to run against it. [More…]
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The purpose of the proposed changes in the Commonwealth Electoral Act is to bring it into line with the principle of one vote, one value. [More…]
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One would imagine, as a result of the contributions from the speakers who represent the combined view of the Opposition, that the views of the Australian Labor Party have been hidden in past years, that it has never endeavoured to explain itself in respect of the principle of one vote, one value and that it has, in fact, endeavoured to fool the Australian people. [More…]
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The evidence shows that the Labor Party, in its policy and platform, has consistently adhered to the principle of one vote one value and has consistently moved in the Houses of Parliament amendments to achieve that objective. [More…]
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in Queensland the coalition Government, led by the Country Party, created a gerrymander so great that it was possible for the Labor Party to get 46.75 per cent of the vote, as against 42.23 per cent for the LiberalCountry Party coalition, and yet win only 33 seats as against 47 seats won by the Government. [More…]
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In Queensland the Country Party, led by this great democrat Bjelke-Petersen, can poll less than 20 per cent of the total vote and win 26 of the seats. [More…]
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The Labor Party can poll 2i times that vote and gain only 7 seats more. [More…]
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In the 1959 State election - one could go back to each election prior to that and find somewhat the same result - the ruling Liberal Country League received 37 per cent of the vote as against the Labor Party’s 49.5 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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It is a lot of poppycock for Senator Carrick to talk about electoral justice, the rights of the voters, the rights of rural communities and the rights of people when he turns a blind eye to gerrymanders of this kind. [More…]
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There has been a great deal of comment from Opposition speakers, particularly those from the Country Party and Senator Carrick, who was the last speaker in the debate, about the alleged desirability from the point of view of country people to retain the imbalance that exists between the rural voter and the urban voter. [More…]
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There is no evidence to show that a person has to represent a rural voter before he can act and vote conscientiously on matters affecting the rural community. [More…]
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Rather are they an attempt to establish parity between the value of city votes and rural votes. [More…]
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One vote one value is a fundamental principle of our democratic system of government. [More…]
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However, the difficulties do not warrant the sacrificing of the principle of one vote one value. [More…]
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I thought that we were to be asked to vote on an amendment; that is what I thought he was suggesting when he spoke in this debate. [More…]
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It is all right to say that when the number of voters in electorates get above or below the tolerance we should have another redistribution. [More…]
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Only recently we gave the vote to the 18, 19 and 20-year-olds in this country. [More…]
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We have already passed the Bill to provide the vote for 18-year-olds and, as I have said, those young people are apparently not enrolling as quickly as many had expected they would. [More…]
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Just recently we have heard a lot about one vote one value. [More…]
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I am pointing this out to answer the one vote one value argument. [More…]
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In the electorate of Kelvingrove in the United Kingdom it took 6,106 votes to elect a Labor man. [More…]
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Yet in the electorate of Billericay in Essex it took 47,700 votes to elect a Conservative member. [More…]
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Is that one vote one value? [More…]
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Taking it for granted that in this case each of the electorates within Australia is of equal value, a minority party fielding a good candidate and with a good policy can achieve representation in the Parliament by gaining 30 per cent of the vote within that electorate. [More…]
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I can mark my vote against one candidate on the ballot paper and against no other candidate. [More…]
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Under the present situation -that vote is informal, but under the selective preferential system it would be counted, as would those of people who vote first for a certain candidate and then show their preferences down the line, 2, 3, 4, 5. [More…]
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Why should so many votes be declared informal? [More…]
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I clearly recall how many votes were discarded as informal because the voter had placed ‘1’ against the name df the candidate that he wanted but had not placed any other figures against the names of the other candidates. [More…]
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Why should not that elector’s vote be valid? [More…]
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In the electorate of Lilley the preference system did not really operate because the party directed how an elector should vote when he went to the polling booth and received a card. [More…]
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So, in effect, to a certain extent preferences are a confidence vote imposed upon the electorate’ by the minority party which endeavours to frustrate the will of the majority of the people. [More…]
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The direction that the DLP issues that those who vote for the DLP shall allocate their preferences in a particular way. [More…]
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Yes, we put out *how to vote’ cards. [More…]
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Firstly, the people who vote for the strongest candidate do not have their preferences counted ‘ and, besides, the other preferences are allocated at the direction of the Party. [More…]
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The DLP states that that method will give each vote an equal value. [More…]
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They vote as they wish. [More…]
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What percentage of the vote did your Party obtain? [More…]
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It was about 5 per cent - a minority vote. [More…]
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But the DLP has the audacity to challenge the rights of a Party which attracted 49 per cent of the votes. [More…]
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The electorate requires that regularly, but not too often, it shall be required to vote for either one party or another. [More…]
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It should be required to vote only for the person that it wants and should not be forced to vote preferentially by placing ‘2’, *3’, ‘4’, and ‘5’, for example, against the names of other candidates giving such preferences a value equal to the first preference vote. [More…]
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But he- takes his chances on a first past the post system: If he cannot get sufficient votes under the first past the post system, he is not good enough. [More…]
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The people of Australia should not 1 have to vote and elect members on blind preferences. [More…]
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I have been amazed at times at the reflection of the votes cast because the votes cast for a certain political party were in no way reflected in the percentage of members returned. [More…]
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Contrasted to this, it has been claimed that the Tasmanian system is as near as possible to perfection, even with all its disabilities, inasmuch as the percentage of people who vote for the Labor Party, for example, is reflected in almost the same percentage of Labor members elected. [More…]
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In the United Kingdom it is hard to imagine such a system when comparing the number of electors who voted for a particular party with the number of members of that party who were elected to the Parliament. [More…]
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No, I would not give the cows a vote. [More…]
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I would not treat the people like a lot of cows and herd them into electorates which are supposedly equal in number of voters and not have regard to the problems which are confronting them and the type of representation which is necessary for them. [More…]
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If one adds to that terrific acceleration towards centralisation the proposals contained in this Bill, one goes a long way towards extinguishing altogether the rural vote, the rural voice and the rural influence. [More…]
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Senators, without any regard to that fact, talk about one man one vote under conditions in which the metropolitan area of Sydney alone elects as many members of the House of Representatives as do the States of South Australia, Western Australia and Tasmania combined. [More…]
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I wish to say a word or two about this fetish of one man one vote in this country where most of the people are herded into the cities. [More…]
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The Minister, in his second reading speech, mentioned certain electorates, and I took note of the fact that in one electorate 43 per cent of the population did not have a vote. [More…]
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I suppose that they were not old enough to have a vote. [More…]
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In another electorate 60 per cent of the population did not have a vote. [More…]
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It was rumoured, it was reported and it was said in this place that the fairest way in which to perfect this one man one vote principle was to divide electorates so that they were commensurate with their populations. [More…]
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If we did that we would get a terrific disparity in regard to the people who actually voted. [More…]
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That legislation will provide that only half of the membership of a union need vote on a proposed amalgamation and that only half of the membership voting need vote in favour of the proposed amalgamation for it to be given effect. [More…]
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There has been a lot of talk about the principle of one vote one value. [More…]
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Most of the speeches were sanctimonious speeches about a sacred principle that is enshrined in the platform of the Australian Labor Party, that is, the principle of one man one vote one value. [More…]
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It was not long afterwards that Billy Hughes said, referring to people who talk about this alleged sacrosanct principle of one vote one value: [More…]
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I shall cast my vote against this Bill. [More…]
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We say plainly that it is the policy of the Australian Labor Government, the Labor movement, that in no terms should a person’s vote depend on his geographical location. [More…]
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Commonwealth law fails in several ways to provide that one elector’s vote shall carry the same value as does another’s. [More…]
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So there is a disparity in representation whereby a person living in an outlying area, in a rural community, can have a vote nearly twice the value of that of a person who lives in an urban electorate. [More…]
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Thus, the Committee concluded that it should recommend the inclusion in the Constitution of provisions ensuring the regular review of the electoral divisions of each State and also accord near uniformity to the value accorded to the votes of the electors for each of the States. [More…]
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Thirdly, in the’ absence from the Act for the first time of any statement that the basic norm should be the quota figure or the democratic ideal of ‘one adult- one vote - one value’, the legislation can, as It was undoubtedly intended to do, produce only a rural-oriented gerrymander. [More…]
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Indeed, it was anathema to the coalition because decentralisation would bring workers into country areas and these might be prepared to vote for the Labor Party. [More…]
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lt is interesting to note that every time a Labor spokesman endeavours to present an argument in support of his case that the present system is loaded against his party he always ignores the DLP vote when doing his sums. [More…]
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As a matter of fact, as Senator Carrick pointed out earlier, by balancing out in New South Wales the average number of electors in non-metropolitan divisions against the average number in metropolitan divisions, it was found that the value of a country vote was equal to 1.06 of a metropolitan vote. [More…]
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If the difference between the value of city votes and country votes is the tiny margin that I have mentioned, the Parliament in 1965 was well justified, as I see it, in writing into the Act concern for electors living in divisions vaster than some of the largest nations of Europe, peopled by a thinly scattered population, remote from the great population centres of the Australian seaboard. [More…]
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To this end we intend to amend the law so that, as far as may be practicable, the value of the vole of one citizen shall be equivalent to the vote of another. [More…]
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If honourable senators opposite listen attentively they will find out what their leader said about equality and one vote, one value. [More…]
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Of course, Mr Daly has made great play on the slogan ‘one vote, one value’. [More…]
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But honourable senators opposite cannot sacrifice a principle with which the Leader of the Opposition in the Senate, agreed - ‘that there should be, as near as possible, one vote one value. [More…]
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The Labor Parly is not interested at all in having one vote one value. [More…]
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The Labor Party is not interested at all in having one vote one value. [More…]
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This Bill is just the first step on the way lo redistributing the electorate on a population basis - that is, equal numbers of people, not voters, in electorates. [More…]
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On this basis we could end up with equal populations in electorates but with 40,000 voters in one electorate and 60,000 voters in another, ls this one man one vote one value? [More…]
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Therefore I suggest to honourable senators opposite that if they take notice of what their leader says they must vote for the Bill. [More…]
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The Premier of Queensland, Mr BjelkePetersen, governs that State on a 19 per cent vote. [More…]
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The Government has introduced this legislation under the guise of one vote one value. [More…]
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vote one value, why has it not brought in a system whereby there is no tolerance at all? [More…]
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1 wish to speak for a while on the subject of one vote one. [More…]
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The situation could arise in any election in this country in which, say, 2 parties were vying for votes and where one party got 51 per cent of the votes in every electorate and the other party got 49 per cent. [More…]
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Although 49 per cent of the population felt that the party for which it voted should be in government they would, in effect, have no representation whatsoever. [More…]
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It is sheer hypocrisy for the members of the Labor Party to come into this chamber and talk about one vote one. [More…]
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one vote one value, but I have not heard him suggest to the Labor Party or to this chamber that because Tasmania has a population of only 420,000 people, it should have so many members on the Federal Executive, and that New South Wales with a population of 4.5 million should have 10 times as many members on the Executive. [More…]
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Where is the principle of one vote one value in that? [More…]
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It is amazing bow they will support the principle of one vote one value particularly in the selection of Rugby League test teams. [More…]
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I am pleased to know that the Opposition parties will vote against this Bill. [More…]
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The central feature that we are dealing with is whether one person’s vote in one part of the country is of the same value as that of another person living in another part of the country. [More…]
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If you read Hansard tomorrow you will see that I did not talk about one vote one value. [More…]
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The Australian people - this is the important point - are entitled to know that every time they record a vote on the ballot paper their vote means as much, whether they are living in Sydney, Kalgoorlie, Hobart or Cairns. [More…]
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10 relating to the suspension of Standing Orders to enable a motion to be moved for the rescission of the vote of the Senate of 10th May negativing the question for the appointment of a select committee on civil liberties of migrant Australians and order of the day No. [More…]
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In the event of an equality of voting the Chairman, or the Deputy-Chairman when acting as Chairman, shall have a casting vote. [More…]
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There is an added proviso that in the event of an equality of votes the chairman, who would be appointed by the Committee from one of the nominees of the Government, would have a casting vote. [More…]
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Select Committee on the Canberra Abattoir in that for the first time in the history of the Senate the motion contains a provision which takes away from the government of the day the right to chair the Committee and to have a document vote in the Committee. [More…]
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The basic reason is that we desire, and the vote of the Senate has confirmed that it is the wish of the Senate, that a select committee should be appointed to inquire into the shipping services to King Island. [More…]
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Firstly, it should not put up any more speakers, but should let the issue go to a vote. [More…]
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I recall that the vote on whether the committee system would be set up was a free vote. [More…]
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Honourable senators were obliged to vote for what they thought was in the best interests of the Senate, which honourable senators opposite have always chosen to believe is a House of review. [More…]
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The motion proposed by the Acting Leader of the Government in the Senate, Senator Willesee, would seem to be quite a reasonable proposition but for the fact that it says that the Chairman of the Committee should have a casting vote. [More…]
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The Standing Orders provide that the Chairman of each select committee shall have a deliberative vote only. [More…]
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Every Committee previously to the commencement or Business, shall elect one of its Members to be Chairman, who shall have a Deliberative Vote only. [More…]
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When the Votes are equal the Question shall pass in the negative. [More…]
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I was wondering whether the Acting Leader of the Government knew of this when he included in his motion a proposition to the effect that the Chairman of the Committee shall have a casting vote. [More…]
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I understand from members of committees that if any member of a committee disagrees with the findings of the committee - if he has been beaten in a vote of a committee - he can present, an individual report to the Senate. [More…]
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If any member of this Committee disagrees with the findings of the Committee and believes that there has been a wrong vote, he can present an individual report to the Senate and the Senate can make a decision, taking that report into consideration. [More…]
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It is impossible to ensure that the value of a single vote is the same in every electorate. [More…]
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If all divisions were arranged so that the voter populations were equal then it is obvious that they would remain in that condition for a very short time. [More…]
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The commissioners could never make an accurate determination as to when all votes were of equal value. [More…]
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It is necessary to try to equate the value of one vote with that of another. [More…]
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It provides for equality in the Australian vote. [More…]
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So it is necessary to have a tolerance that is large enough to take account of this situation and which enables the equality of the vote to be preserved. [More…]
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Australian people, Australian voters, owe this singularly fair situation to a long list of distinguished leaders, not the least of whom have been great Labor Prime Ministers, and of course to the commissioners through the years, all of whom are of great integrity. [More…]
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lt has been stated before in this debate that the British voter is in a somewhat different situation. [More…]
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People should know that the Bill simply does not promote the concept of one vote one value. [More…]
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My opinion is that the Government is not interested in one vote one value. [More…]
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I know that the Bill makes references to the divisions on a voter basis, but I draw the attention of the Senate to a speech made in the other place by the present Minister for Services and Property (Mr Daly) when he introduced a private members Bill - the Commonwealth Electoral Bill (No. [More…]
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That is, the present Government - proposes these 3 major amendments as the basis on which a democratic vote may be registered by the people of Australia in the election of their government. [More…]
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This means that electorate quotas will be determined on the basis of population and not only on those qualified to vote. [More…]
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If we carve up the country on a population basis we are getting miles away from the concept of one vote one value. [More…]
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I draw attention to the procedure which has been followed by the Government’s counterpart, the Labor Government in Western Australia, which only the other day introduced legislation to allow a 20 per cent variation - I emphasise that percentage - in the quota of voters in the electorates when distributing the electoral boundaries. [More…]
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That means that the purpose of the Bill is to ensure that the people of Australia have the right to be governed by the people for whom they vote and not by the people who poll a minority vote. [More…]
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In 1971 another article by Dean Jaensch was published in the ‘Australian Journal of Politics and History’, Volume 17, and in that article he quoted the percentage of votes gained by the Labor Party in South Australia under a system which has been proved to be biased towards the Liberal Country League. [More…]
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In 1944 the LCL won 20 seats with a vote of 45.65 per cent. [More…]
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The Labor Party won 16 seats with 42 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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In 1947 the LCL won 19 seats with 40.05 per cent of the votes, and the ALP won 25 seats with 48.64 per cent of the votes. [More…]
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In 1950 the LCL won 19 seats with 40.51 per cent of the votes, and the ALP won 23 seats with 47.91 per cent, and 12 other seats were contested for which the percentage was 11.58. [More…]
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In 1953 the LCL won 22 seats with a vote of 36.44 per cent, and the ALP won 20 seats with 49.39 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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In that case we gained 13 per cent more of the votes but won 2 seats less. [More…]
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In 1956 the LCL won 19 seats with 36.69 per cent of the vote, and the ALP won 17 seats with 47.37 per cent. [More…]
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We received nearly 11 per cent more of the votes but won 2 seats less than the LCL. [More…]
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In 1959 24 seats went to the LOL after winning 36.95 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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I will not cover the ground he traversed but he pointed out that a State government elected on a gerrymander and a minority vote could nominate a person to this House who could control the Government of this country. [More…]
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In 1944 the LCL won 20 seats after getting 45.65 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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The ALP received 42 per cent of the vote and won 16 seats. [More…]
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In 1947 the LCL won 23 seats after getting 40 per cent of the vote, and the ALP only won 13 seats yet it gained 8 per cent more of the vote. [More…]
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In 1950 the LCL won 23 seats after polling 40.51 per cent of the votes, and the ALP won 12 seats after receiving 47.91 per cent of the votes. [More…]
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In 1953 the LCL won 21 seats after receiving 36.44 per cent of the votes, and the ALP won 14 seats after getting 39.39 per cent of the votes. [More…]
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In 1956 the LCL won 21 seats having received 36.69 per cent of the votes, and the ALP won 15 seats after gaining 47.37 per cent of the votes. [More…]
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In 1959 the LCL won 21 seats with 36.95 per cent of the votes, and the ALP won 16 seats after receiving 49.35 per cent of the votes. [More…]
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In 1962, 18 seats went to the LCL after it gained 34.51 per cent of the votes, and the ALP won 19 seats after getting 53.97 per cent of the votes. [More…]
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In 1965, with a vote of 35.94 per cent the Liberal Country League obtained 17 seats. [More…]
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The Labor Party with a vote of 54.83 per cent took 21 seats. [More…]
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It had to poll nearly 55 per cent of the total State vote to achieve government. [More…]
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One man’s vote must be worth the same as another’s. [More…]
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That is the very principle which by this legislation the present Government is trying to achieve, that is, the right for the vote of every person to be of equal value. [More…]
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If the Prime Minister states that he will take the judgment of the people of Victoria on the Federal Government by their vote in that State election, I will be very pleased to learn of their reaction next Saturday. [More…]
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It is not true of the Minister or any member of Parliament to say that this Bill represents an attempt to bring about the principle of one vote, one value. [More…]
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I heard Senator Douglas McClelland suggesting in his comments that the Country Party had played some part in requiring this disparity in the weight of a vote. [More…]
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It should say that that Government is producing a gerrymander because yesterday it issued a statement that it believed that in Western Australia there should be a 20 per cent disparity in the number of voters in electorates. [More…]
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What the Australian Labor Party is attempting to do is withdraw representation from regional areas and place it in the great cities where, admittedly, it gains a great deal of the vote of the working population. [More…]
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I do not know how the Minister for Services and Property (Mr Daly) can say that it is a genuine fact that the Federal Labor Government is trying to give equality of representation and that they believe in one vote, one value when their colleagues in Western Australia are doing exactly the opposite to what they are doing at this time. [More…]
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The principle of one vote one value is a very attractive one. [More…]
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Honourable senators opposite do not really believe in the principle of one vote one value. [More…]
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The Prime Minister has said: ‘We want this wonderful principle of one vote one value’. [More…]
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I was dealing with the principle of one vote one value. [More…]
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It is untrue to say that each person’s vote is of equal value. [More…]
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At the moment nobody in the Government can tell me that the vote of a person who has the necessary finance to put money into the election campaign fund of a party has the same strength as the vote of a poor citizen who has not the necessary finance. [More…]
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The strength of that man’s vote cannot be compared with the strength of the vote of some individual in the pensioner class or in the less fortunate class in our community. [More…]
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The principle of one vote one value is really a false principle. [More…]
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We will change this disparity of vote. [More…]
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Under a first past the post system, if 3 candidates stood for an electorate, one candidate could win if he got 34 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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If 4 candidates stood for an electorate, as often happens, one candidate could get as little as 26 per cent of the vote and win. [More…]
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I wish that they would be prepared to say during their discussions that they be ong to a Party - the Australian Labor Party - which wants to deprive farmers of their vote. [More…]
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The Labor Party is inconsistent because it wants to see retained in the Act the provision relating to consideration of the physical features of a division; it has been inconsistent in its argument about the principle of one vote one value; it has been inconsistent in its argument about the 10 per cent disparity, especially as its colleagues in Western Australia are saying that there should be a 20 per cent disparity; and it has been inconsistent in its attempts to remove certain provisions from section 19 of the Act. [More…]
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I ask the Senate to vote against the proposals that have been put forward by the Government. [More…]
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It has been stated that that position is required by the idea of one vote one value. [More…]
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Under our preferential system, after the votes are counted effect is given to the wishes of the majority who vote for a candidate. [More…]
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What we are considering is the grouping of people so that their votes, when expressed in the majority, may fairly represent that group in a majority opinion. [More…]
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The futility of that approach was fortunately frustrated when the people voted against the proposal, and I have great pride in recalling my being among the 10 members of the Senate who advocated a ‘No’ vote. [More…]
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The people’s No’ vote on the nexus question was carried by about 75 per cent to 25 per cent. [More…]
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We hear in this place the sheepish shibboleths of one vote one value for the whole of Australia though we know that the cities hold 80 per cent of the population and the great outback, the great productive areas of Australia, have less than 20 per cent. [More…]
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The Labor Party Opposition had rejected it on the first vote. [More…]
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and then the controlling body of the Australian Labor Party directed the honourable representatives of the people not to vote against it a second time lest they be dragged before the people for judgment. [More…]
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When the grand old Duke of York came in here pretending to represent the majority of the people and voted against the Bill on the first occasion, was he bound by numbers that he represented in the electorate? [More…]
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What is the materiality of the sufferage, the voters, the number and the quota that affects the members of the Australian Labor Party? [More…]
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They are just puppets when they come into this place or the other, whose strings are pulled by the Australian Labor Party Federal Executive which is constituted on a vote of 2 members from each State and after a conference of 6 members from each State. [More…]
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How honourable members on ‘the Government side jaundice and squirm when we come here and reflect the people’s vote and verdict. [More…]
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The Government introduced the Bill giving the vote to 18-year-olds, which was 3 years overdue, as a matter of urgency. [More…]
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So it was introduced on its own so that 18-year-olds would have the right to vote should an emergency by-election be held at any time. [More…]
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So it is of no use for Senator Drake-Brockman to say, as he did, that we do not believe in the concept of one vote one value simply because we propose that the Northern Territory should have 2 senators and the Australian Capital Territory should have 2 senators. [More…]
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But immediately we destroy the concept of one vote one value, we destroy our belief in democracy and we could finish up with a fascist state, or one electorate of Australia or, as someone suggested, one party in Australia. [More…]
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We cannot expect the same respect for the law from the citizen whose vote is of half value as from the citizen whose vote, has double value. [More…]
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Therefore we must achieve, as nearly as practicable, the concept of one vote one value so that everyone in this country has an equal say in electing representatives to the Parliament. [More…]
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Immediately we tamper with the people’s House and depart from the concept of one vote one value, we destroy the democracy in which we all believe. [More…]
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The population is bigger and we have given the vote to 18-year-olds. [More…]
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Therefore the value of the vote in the Darling electorate is almost double that of the vote in the Mitchell electorate. [More…]
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Therefore while 72,000 voters can elect a member for Mitchell only 40,000 voters are needed to elect a member for Darling. [More…]
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The Country Party does not accept the principle of one vote one value. [More…]
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Senator Lillico and Senator Davidson do not accept that there should be one vote one value, or that there should be government by the people. [More…]
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It was said in the course of this debate - I think it was said by the Minister for the Media, Senator Douglas McClelland - that the Country Party has opposed decentralisation because it would result in factories being built in country areas and the workers in them might vote for the Australian Labor Party. [More…]
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If as a result of that development Labor voters move into such an area, the result is that fewer voters on a percentage basis are needed to elect a Labor candidate in that electorate. [More…]
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I know as well as anyone that we cannot achieve in full the principle of one vote one value. [More…]
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Possibly the only way to achieve one vote one value would be to introduce a proportional representation system for the House of Representatives with Australia as the only electorate or perhaps each State being a single electorate. [More…]
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Of course we know that under proportional represen tation in the Senate the one vote one value concept has not worked. [More…]
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Perhaps the HareClark system in Tasmania comes closest of all the electoral systems to the one vote one value principle. [More…]
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AH he has asked Parliament to do in respect of legislation introduced by this Government is to vote in support of those actions for which he has a mandate. [More…]
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Mr Whitlam said in answer to Mr Lynch on 15th March in the other place that he favours a system of compulsory voting for the House of Representatives in which a voter expresses a direct preference or follows the optional preference system. [More…]
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A voter is given the option to decide for how many candidates seeking election for a division he will cast a vote. [More…]
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A voter may allocate preferences, following his first preference, to 6 or 7 of the other candidates. [More…]
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That voter then may not wish to cast any further preferences. [More…]
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So, the point is not reached where a voter must express a preference - in the example I have given, by allocating a thirteenth and fourteenth preference - for the candidate or candidates who satisfy least the views of that voter. [More…]
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The voter would support those candidates only if the wish was to see one of them elected to Parliament. [More…]
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If this Bill is rejected, those who vote against it shall answer to the people at some time or other for their action. [More…]
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The Government will vote against this motion. [More…]
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Whatever was the result of the vote the other night and whatever was the result of a motion which was put this afternoon for the setting up of another committee, the fact is that a government must govern, lt is absolutely out of the question for an opposition to be taking over the business of government. [More…]
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The Government will vote against this proposal at all stages because the principle and the basis of it are wrong. [More…]
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The Government will vote against the motion. [More…]
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For cheap, opportunistic political purposes this whole trend and the great hope that the people had for the Senate are being altered and prostituted by means of the motion on which we are about to vote. [More…]
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1 ask Opposition senators to consider carefully the way in which they vote on this motion because if committees are to be used in this way by the Opposition the demise of the committee system in the Senate is being prepared. [More…]
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That, in the event of an equality of voting, the Chairman, or the Deputy-Chairman when acting as Chairman, shall have a casting vote. [More…]
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That except where the Committee by vote otherwise decides hearings shall be open to the public. [More…]
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Any vote on this legislation is not capable of being any more than an expression of opinion and in fact has no standing or bearing at all. [More…]
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At this point let me make it perfectly clear that the Bill does not change the situation whereby citizens <>f the 31 Commonwealth countries, whether they become Australian citizens or not, continue to have the status of British or Commonwealth of Nations subjects and as such have privileges such as the vote and eligibility to be appointed to public services under other Acts of Parliament. [More…]
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However, the conceit and arrogance of the man are such that in Victoria he said that he hoped that a strong Labor vote in Victoria on Saturday would give Opposition senators the warning they need. [More…]
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If a strong Liberal-Country Party-Democratic Labor Party vote is recorded, I take it that he will recognise that the people agree with the Senate. [More…]
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They are elected by the popular vote - by the adult franchise - of the Common wealth. [More…]
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The Australian Country Party has already indicated to its Leader that it has made up its mind to vote against the legislation. [More…]
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A quick conclusion could be reached if a vote were taken and the proposition put to the High Court for a legal decision. [More…]
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Is it afraid that some of its members will vote with the Government on this very important proposition? [More…]
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Is it afraid that some of its members may follow the lead of their ex-leader in the other place, the right honourable member for Higgins (Mr Gorton) who was once Prime Minister, and vote for this important legislation? [More…]
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For example, it was at the age of 21 that a person was entitled to exercise the franchise and to vote in a democracy at elections. [More…]
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We have decided that 18-year-olds should have the right to vote and we have decided that they should have other privileges. [More…]
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I ask: Is it not a fact that on 19 December last year in the United Nations General Assembly the Australian representative voted against, and was in a minority in voting against, a resolution designed to promote measures to prevent international terrorism which endangered human life? [More…]
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What was the reason for that vote? [More…]
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Is there any connection between that vote and his refusal to state categorically today that the Government will not refuse to give arms or military aid to terrorist organisations throughout the world? [More…]
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I do not recall the details of the vote of December last year. [More…]
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I think it would be quite the wrong thing to do to chide people after they have cast a vote at any of the United Nations agencies. [More…]
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The debate takes place, a vote is taken and that is it. [More…]
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We may be disappointed at the way in which people voted. [More…]
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The World Health Assembly in Geneva has just adopted by a vote of 87 to 4, with 10 abstentions, a resolution deploring all nuclear testing which results in an increase in the level of ionizing radiation in the atmosphere and urging its immediate cessation. [More…]
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In view of the extraordinary attitude of the Government in this matter I will allow the present amendment to go to a vote. [More…]
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Depending upon the outcome of that vote I will then move the foreshadowed amendment. [More…]
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I suggest that in order to proceed with the Committee’s deliberations the matter be put to a vote. [More…]
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So the Opposition will not oppose, by vote, this measure. [More…]
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I say at the outset that we will not oppose the Bill and that we will vote for it. [More…]
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Since the Government has not accepted those proposals, whilst we will not vote against this Bill, I think I ought to remind the Senate of some of the provisions of the Prices Limitation Bill that we proposed on 31 October 1972. [More…]
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As I said earlier, while we will not vote against the Bill - we will vote for it - we will subsequently press to introduce the Prices Limitation Bill in order to limit price increases. [More…]
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Having said that, I repeat what I said at the beginning of my remarks: We will not vote against the Bill. [More…]
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But since the Government claims to have a mandate, we are prepared to let the Bill pass and will vote for it. [More…]
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If the Committee does not agree with him, I suggest that we vote on the amendment and if it is rejected, so be it. [More…]
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That in matters of procedure the Chairman or Deputy Chairman presiding at the meeting have a deliberative vote and, in the event of an equality of voting, have a casting vote, and that, in other matters, the Chairman or Deputy Chairman have a deliberative vote only. [More…]
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It is obvious that every honourable senator in this place who considers himself to be a representative of a State must vote against clause 39 being included in the Bill and, in that case, must support the amendment. [More…]
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We are sent here by a vote of the people in the States we represent. [More…]
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By no means all the people in those States vote for us. [More…]
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Nobody is here on a complete and absolute vote of the people of any State. [More…]
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We are here to represent the political thoughts and ideas of all sections of the political communities in the States, having gained sufficient votes in a poll that is more democratic than that which is conducted for other Parliaments throughout Australia, to act on behalf of people in the various States. [More…]
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On this issue the Premier of every State has interpreted the votes which were given to his party and which enabled him to form a government to mean that the people want that government to retain the powers which have always been considered since Federation to reside with the States and which, without question or doubt, resided in the hands of the States before Federation. [More…]
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Never again will I vote for legislation of this sort when a committee investigates the subject matter of the Bill after it is passed. [More…]
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In 1967, when I had the casting vote on the Petroleum (Submerged Lands) Bill, I renounced it in favour of the legislation promoted by the then Government which had considered the Bill much more fully than I could. [More…]
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Senate Hansard would indicate wider support amongst senators in 1970 than the actual vote indicated. [More…]
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The action of the Senate was understandable because at that time to vote for the amendments presented by the Opposition may have delayed the passage of the Bill which formed the Corporation. [More…]
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I think I am correct in reminding the Leader that on the Thursday night prior to his departure for Europe he, without notice, repudiated pairs for an important vote in this Senate and asserted that it was in accordance with parliamentary practice that pairs should be withdrawn on a vote of confidence. [More…]
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I ask the Minister whether he treated the subsequent vote on that motion as a vote of confidence. [More…]
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Oan the Minister refer the Senate to any authority for the statement that pairs are off on votes of confidence, I having failed to find any. [More…]
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I would now suggest that the Senate should proceed to a vote on the question before it. [More…]
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Then the Parliament can vote upon the project on its merits unembarrassed by the fact that it is simply one of the component items of a Budget involving $500m to $600m. [More…]
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That is a residuary dragnet vote which should never be used for major, original items. [More…]
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If Senator McLaren looks at the figures instead of listening to his colleagues he will ascertain that not only did the Liberal Party win the election in Victoria with an increase of 8 per cent in the vote, but there was also a drop in the Labor Party’s figures of between 5 per cent and 6 per cent on what it achieved last December. [More…]
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The figures show that the Liberal Party secured 42.3 per cent of the vote and the Labor Party 41.7 per cent. [More…]
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To state that the Australian Labor Party polled more votes than the Liberal Party at the last State election in Victoria is completely untrue. [More…]
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I hope that in the Committee stage the amendment will simply be moved and then a vote taken on it. [More…]
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The Australian Capital Territory was given representation in the Australian Parliament in 1948 on the initiative of the then Labor Government with effect from the 1949 elections, on the basis that the member representing the Australian Capital Territory had the same voting rights as the member for the Northern Territory at that time, namely that the member could vote only on a motion to disallow an ordinance affecting the Australian Capital Territory. [More…]
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In 1959 he was given the same additional right as was given in that year to the member for the Northern Territory to vote on any Bill that related solely to his territory - the Australian Capital Territory. [More…]
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In 1966 the member for the Australian Capital Territory was given the right to vote on any matter after the ensuing general elections for the House of Representatives. [More…]
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He was not entitled to vote on any matter. [More…]
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In 1936 he was given the right to vote on a motion to disallow an Ordinance affecting the Northern Territory. [More…]
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In 1959 he was given the further right to vote on any Bill which related solely to the Northern Territory. [More…]
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In 1968 the member for the Northern Territory became entitled to vote on any matter. [More…]
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I am sure that when Senator Primmer finishes his speech Senator Webster will indicate that he is on the side of the Government and will vote against the proposed amendment. [More…]
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No member of Parliament, on either side of this chamber, should be threatened with action consequential upon what his vote may be or what he does in representing the people of this country. [More…]
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Did the Commission, by a 6 to 4 vote, reject a ten-year moratorium on the taking of whales. [More…]
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Will the Minister ask the Prime Minister to produce for the Senate a statement setting out the following details foi all Commonwealts Departments of State: (a) the number of people on each Minister’s personal staff charged to the vote, of his Department as at 1 January 1973; (b) similar information, with figures and details as at 1 June 1973; (c) the gross total weekly remuneration for each such peron as at 1 June 1973, whether employed full time or part time? [More…]
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They have a right to vote and are required to comply with the same regulations regarding voting as have Australian born citizens. [More…]
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I think that other aspects of the Bill could very well be reexamined at another time, but since the Government says that it wants the Bill passed and since the issues at the moment are rot so significant that we should reject the Bill,I am prepared to vote for its second reading. [More…]
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My understanding is that under the present law a person who is a British subject and in fact a citizen, if one may call him that, of the United Kingdom is required to enrol here and vote after 6 months residence although he may never become an Australian citizen. [More…]
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So whatever anomalies it might be suggested are in the proposed law it is certainly less anomalous than the extraordinary situation where a citizen of a country can be forced to enrol and vote. [More…]
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Indeed, it is regarded so strongly in some countries that I understand one could forfeit one’s citizenship if one is shown to have enrolled or voted in another country. [More…]
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Notwithstanding that they remain citizens of another country they will still be, in a curious way, compelled to enrol and vote after 6 months residence in Australia. [More…]
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I wish to add to what Senator Murphy has said by saying simply that my advisers have advised me that the Bill will not change the situation whereby citizens of Com monwealth countries, irrespective of whether they become citizens, continue to have the status of British or Commonwealth of Nations subjects and as such have privileges such as the right to vote and eligibility to be appointed to the Public Service under Acts of Parliament [More…]
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For those reasons we welcome the Bill but for the reasons which are recited in the amendment, we support the amendment for which we will vote at the appropriate time. [More…]
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I will devote my recess to renewing acquaintance with the people whom I represent, whether they vote for me or not. [More…]
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He then talked for 45 minutes on what he did not like about the Bill and, when the vote was taken, he voted for the Bill. [More…]
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The Government needs only to ask for a vote, and with the support of other honourable senators it can stop an extension being granted. [More…]
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It will oppose and vote against the motion for the second reading of the Bill. [More…]
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Senator Gair, I am glad to see, recalls and maybe this is a harbinger of a happy vote on this clause. [More…]
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We have also provided that a simple majority df the members of a union should be sufficient to encompass the aim of an amalgamation and, of course, we have eliminated a requirement that there can be a ballot inquiry into amalgamation votes when the vote has been conducted officially by the Registrar. [More…]
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The previous Government said that it did not believe that a shut-down occurred until a particular vote had been taken. [More…]
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Only 16 per cent of all the members of the unions involved voted in favour of the amalgamation. [More…]
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We say it should provide that an amalgamation cannot, take place unless and until more than half the membership of the union votes for it. [More…]
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We do not believe that the Act as it presently stands is good enough when it requires only half the union members to vote in a ballot and when the majority of these can carry the vote. [More…]
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For that’ reason, if for no other, we would vote against this Bill. [More…]
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But I want to ensure that each member of the union has a right to vote in a properly supervised ballot. [More…]
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to the voters? [More…]
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In other words, fewer than one in ten members of the AEU voted in the actual ballot. [More…]
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In the case of companies being taken over by another company, 90 per cent of the shareholders have to vote for the takeover. [More…]
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Does he know that his vote is counted properly? [More…]
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Why would the Government not want to see the retention of the present provisions whereby the unionist has the right to know what the amalgamation is about, and has the right to vote in a properly supervised ballot, with at least half the members voting before the amalgamation can take place? [More…]
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I stated earlier that the Democratic Labor Party believes that there should be a requirement that 50 per cent of the members of a union must vote in favour of an amalgamation Before it can take place. [More…]
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I am not proposing that it should be made compulsory; I am saying that if unionists do not vote, why should it be assumed that they want amalgamation? [More…]
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In the case of a referendum, if I did not vote for the proposition, does that mean that I want it? [More…]
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The present Act does not go as far as we would like it to go but it does provide that there must be 50 per cent plus one voting before a ballot is effective and that a majority of those voting vote for the amalgamation. [More…]
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for that reason we will vote against it. [More…]
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Therefore the DLP senators will vote against the second reading of this Bill. [More…]
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For those reasons the DLP feels that this Bill is not worth saving and will vote to defeat it on the second reading. [More…]
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Since the Government took office it has stated that it intends to hold some sort of referendum in which it will give all wool growers and others, at the Minister’s discretion, no matter who they may be, the right to vote on the future of the industry. [More…]
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On a vote of the Senate it was not disallowed. [More…]
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For the benefit of honourable senators who will vote on this matter, in the brief time I have available I should give some background information concerning the acquisition of this land in question. [More…]
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I ask the Senate in the interest of the future planned development of Darwin to vote against the motion which was put down by Senator Drake-Brockman and moved today by Senator Prowse. [More…]
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I hope that honourable senators in their wisdom will vote against the disallowance of this acquisition. [More…]
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But I would assume that the Legislative Council was aware of all this, and in these circumstances very narrowly we decided that we would vote against the Ordinance. [More…]
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Had there been a division there might not have been a unanimous vote. [More…]
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The report continues: where each city, independent of its size, had one vote. [More…]
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It is probable that no small States would care to link their fortunes with large States if they were liable to be out-voted and ignored by virtue of the superior population of their greater brethren. [More…]
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In fact, concern was expressed that the provision did not preclude such representatives having the right to vote. [More…]
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If the United States plan ls followed territorial delegates would simply be entitled te eater the House of Representative* amd apeak there, but would not be permitted to vote. [More…]
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Mr DEAKIN: Under territorial representation if it follows the plan of the United States, as it probably would, territorial representatives would be entitled to peak in the House of Representatives, but not to vote. [More…]
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These delegates sit and speak, but have no right to vote, being unrecognised by the Constitution. [More…]
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The people of the District of Columbia should have both a voice and vote in the Congress. [More…]
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In the course of the State election campaign in Victoria recently, the Prime Minister asked the people of that State to vote Labor to indicate their opposition to the actions of the Senate. [More…]
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Why, in the House of Representatives, the Country Party voted in support of the second reading of these Bills. [More…]
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Now the Country Party intends to vote withthe Liberal Party and the others on that side agaiast this proposition. [More…]
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I ask the Minister for Primary Industry: Does the Government still intend to press for a vote on the issue of the export of merino rams from Australia? [More…]
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If so, does it intend to place the pros and cons of the issue before woolgrowers who are eligible to vote? [More…]
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The Prime Minister has reneged on a promise which he gave the Australian people and which was intended to gather in votes prior to a Federal election. [More…]
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Knowing that this would encourage people to vote for the Labor Party, the Prime Minister stated: [More…]
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What a ridiculous, stupid and idiotic thing to say 24 hours after the Government had increased its vote for education by 92 per cent, making the greatest subvention for eduction in the history of Australia. [More…]
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This increase was made not on the basis of a grant of 5m which Senator Rae’s Party made available when it was in Government and was looking for votes - when it bought votes with 5m in order to win an election - but on the basis of a deeply considered and deeply studied analysis of the education system of this country by a very responsible committee. [More…]
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Here for the first time we have a document designed not to be vote-catching, not to be a gimmicky thing that sets out to win some votes and some cheap political advantage but a document based on the needs of a great country frying to fulfill the educational requirements of every child in the Australian community. [More…]
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Goodness gracious me, it was riddled with bad features - features based upon that initial concept of buying votes. [More…]
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In the first place the previous government started by buying the votes with 5m, and so far as I am concerned in every succeeding Budget the education vote has been pitched to the securing of votes. [More…]
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Australia now is not carrying on at the United Nations waiting to see which way the United States of America or the United Kingdom is voting before it casts its vote. [More…]
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Australia has not only voted as we thought fit but our representative has spoken as we thought fit. [More…]
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Does not the actual Budget defence vote fall short by 10 per cent of the Minister’s own modified pledge? [More…]
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I point out that approximately 62 per cent of the defence vote is related to improvements for personnel in the Defence Services. [More…]
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The facts are - and I told the Senator this - that in the general context of the Budget the defence vote has been reduced slightly and this has affected manpower and will affect some work. [More…]
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The defence vote for 1973-74 is $ 1,345m. [More…]
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He suggested that every member of this chamber should vote for the proposition as it stood merely because - he quoted from the political arguments of his own Party during the Federal election campaign - of what his Party had said. [More…]
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It would be just as illogical to suggest that I should stand here and reverse my attitude, taken when this Bill was before us earlier, because of the vote in Victoria, as it was for Senator Murphy to suggest that we should not even discuss the Bill or the amendment. [More…]
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A vote of the Senate may be taken on each of the amendments. [More…]
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Senators will vote as a party. [More…]
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I believe that it is the obligation of a government, however unpalatable it might be for the individuals who have to vote to enact laws specifying appropriate penalties. [More…]
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In actual fact in this instance a free vote is being exercised only by the Opposition. [More…]
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Following that observation I rise before the issue goes to the vote only to ask the AttorneyGeneral (Senator Murphy) whether he is able to confirm the statistics on violent crime for either Victoria or New South Wales which were published recently. [More…]
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I believe that the Australian public, if asked at a referendum whether the death penalty should be provided with respect to acts of terrorism and hijacking of aircraft would say, in a majority vote, that it expected responsible members of Parliament to provide penalties for such extreme situations. [More…]
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We on this side have the right to exercise a free vote on every matter and particularly on this one. [More…]
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But naturally because of Cabinet responsibility he is too timid and too handicapped to take action for the people who put him in with a record vote. [More…]
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He probably did not beat the late Jim Fraser in the number of votes he received but he probably got near a record vote. [More…]
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When the people of Australia are called upon to vote they will not remember that he attended a state dinner with Mrs Gandhi or that he saw President Nixon and had a guard of honour or that Mr Trudeau took him to a special government banquet somewhere out in the snow. [More…]
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When the time to vote comes the people of Australia will remember what he did about inflation, what he did to stop his Ministers attacking one another and attacking the leaders of foreign countries and what he did to keep his Ministers together as a disciplined force doing what is necessary to be a successful government. [More…]
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Did the Minister vote for an amendment moved on 26 October last by Senator Wilkinson, on behalf of the Labor Party, requiring that the Australian Wool Corporation formulate a detailed plan for operation by the Corporation to acquire and market the Australian wool clip, and to report this plan to the Parliament within 6 months of the commencement of the Act? [More…]
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Does the Minister now airily dismiss a considered vote as comment? [More…]
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I am not aware of where I am supposed to have made this vote. [More…]
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I presume that the honourable senator refers to some vote within the Parliamentary Labor Party. [More…]
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Mr Acting Deputy President, the purpose of these amendments is perfectly clear: The principle of ‘one vote one value’ must be established as the fundamental objective of redistribution and our intentions were publicised before the last elections at which the people elected an Australian Labor Party government. [More…]
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Factors such as ‘the area of the Division’, the density or sparsity of population ‘ and references to ‘disabilities arising out of remoteness or distance’ inserted by the previous Government in 1965, are contrary to the concept of equality of political rights and encourage departure from the quota of electors in a manner which makes the value of a citizen’s vote depend largely upon his geographical location. [More…]
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The changes proposed by this Bill are designed to provide by legislative measures that, as far as may be practicable, the value of the vote of one citizen shall be equivalent to the vote of another and to give some meaningful application to the principle of one vote one value’ without unneccessarily restricting the Distribution Commissioners in proposing a redistribution. [More…]
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So that we cannot be accused of frustrating or delaying major pieces of legislation we are prepared to take a vote on this Bill today. [More…]
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If we succeed in defeating this Bill and the Government wants to bring it forward again in 3 months time we will vote against the Bill again. [More…]
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That is precisely the situation today; we will again vote against this Bill. [More…]
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What it fails to understand is that the present system is fair and equitable, because in December last year the Australian people voted for a Labor Government. [More…]
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This vote, I might add, comprised only 49.6 per cent of the total vote. [More…]
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That is all it received and yet with that vote it was able to gain S3 per cent of the seats. [More…]
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It should be noted that under the present Electoral Act a party which receives SO per cent of the nation’s vote wins office. [More…]
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What happened then was that the sitting Labor members concentrated as many Labor voters as possible into their own electorates to preserve themselves. [More…]
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1 conclude my remarks as I commenced them: We in the Liberal Party reject this legislation and will continue to vote against legislation associated with the Electoral Act when such legislation seeks to alter the impartiality of the Act as it has existed over the past 70 years. [More…]
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I recall that the question arose as to the relationship between statutory corporations and the Estimates Committees, and the Senate confirmed by a vote in the Senate as a whole the decision of an estimates committee of which, I think, Senator Rae was the chairman that, in effect, statutory corporations must be accountable to the parliamentary committee for their financial arrangements. [More…]
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I should simply like to indicate that, whilst 1 oppose the death penalty and support the Death Penalty Abolition Bill and intend to vote against the amendment that has been moved by Senator Jessop, I believe that there is a very strong case for considering the point in relation to this matter that was raised by Senator Webster and other honourable senators. [More…]
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For instance, let those honourable senators who are likely to vote against this amendment imagine themselves sitting in an aircraft in which perhaps the stewardess has just been murdered, which is the only circumstance about which we are talking. [More…]
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I then, as a privileged member of the Liberal Party had a right to determine my individual vote. [More…]
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I voted against that penalty because it extended the law of capital punishment which had been reserved up until that time only for actual achieved murder. [More…]
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I refused to give my vote to extend capital punishment to an attempt to murder. [More…]
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I pause for a moment to indicate that I face a number of honourable senators who do not enjoy that privilege of freedom of individual vote, honourable senators who, in a matter of this excruciating conscience vote, speak from the book of Caucus. [More…]
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Having voted in Cabinet against my government’s proposal to extend the law regarding capital punishment to an attempt to hijack an aircraft, I point out that when you are not a member of a government you have a duty to vote on the floor of the House according to your individual judgment. [More…]
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None of us feels obliged to vote against this amendment merely because we are members of the Government Party. [More…]
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All of my colleagues believe that this is a conscience vote on a matter which we had determined when we were outside the Australian Labor Party. [More…]
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Therefore Senator Wright should cast no reflection at all upon any Government supporter as a result of his attitude on this difficult question but should accept the principle that our vote on this question is a conscience vote - but a conscience vote determined years ago when we joined the Australian Labor Party and examined the issues and considered the whole problem of society’s approach to criminal offences and determined our total opposition to capital punishment. [More…]
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The honourable senator should see that we appreciate the action of those members of the Opposition who have, we believe, adopted an enlightened attitude, who have in conscience decided to vote for or against the various amendments that have been submitted for debate in this place. [More…]
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A political decision arises from a person’s deciding to cast his vote after he has examined his conscience. [More…]
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I repeat that I have moved this amendment because, as the Leader of the Opposition (Senator Withers) announced when the debate on this Bill commenced many months ago, the opportunity would be taken during the debate in the Committee stage of the Bill, because members of the Opposition had differing views on the matter and had a freedom to vote as they pleased, to move amendments and identify areas in which it may be thought desirable that the death penalty be retained. [More…]
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Although honourable senators opposite have been given a free vote in this debate, I think it is probably time that the views he is expressing represent properly the views held by some honourable senators opposite. [More…]
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The first is that ever since the first measure of this nature was introduced in 1968 until the last vote which has been taken, I have voted in accordance with my conscience which is very clear. [More…]
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I believe that the statutes of the Australian Government should continue to contain the ultimate penalty of death by hanging for certain crimes.I have voted in that way on all occasions. [More…]
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I do not want people to be able to prove that I was one of the few who consistently voted from one point of view and was not man enough to stand in my place and briefly state my reasons. [More…]
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I do not reflect upon the vote of the Senate but I want to close my speech by saying very sincerely that when the Senate decided by vote not to maintain in our statutes the ultimate punishment of death by hanging for treason, I mentally threw the towel in. [More…]
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In my view, if the act of treason which so easily can cause the death of thousands - it can cause the fall of a nation - is not punishable by death by hanging, and if the Australian people share the belief of the vote of the Senate in that respect, they do not want death by hanging in their statutes. [More…]
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I think it has been publicised also that the proposal would be for 3 representatives from each State and a certain number from the Territories but I think that voting rights would be restricted to one vote for local government in each State. [More…]
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We will vote against the Bill and place the Government in the position of getting a double dissolution if it wants one. [More…]
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I believe that I should refer to statements in a section of the Press to the effect that because I asked for an adjournment of one day yesterday, my Party was having second thoughts and might not vote just as we voted 3 months ago. [More…]
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We are therefore determined to vote against it. [More…]
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Honourable senators can waffle on about this matter as long as they like, but how could any honourable senator say that votes should be of unequal value, that a barman in Melbourne should receive half the vote of a barman in a country district of Australia? [More…]
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The fact is that barmen, carpenters, labourers, schoolteachers or postmasters receive unequal votes, depending on their geographical location in Australia. [More…]
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They are refusing to stand up to a position in which one man’s vote is as good as another man’s vote. [More…]
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Every time there was a crisis or a crunch and a vote was taken he used to scuttle across the chamber and vote to keep the tax on wine. [More…]
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What won Labor office was its promotion by an expert American publicity company that was able to push the ideal of one vote one value, the slogans Don’t blame me’ and ‘It’s time’, and all the other gimmicks that caught up the people. [More…]
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I wish to reply to the attack that has been made on the Labor Party’s defence vote. [More…]
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The criticism of the defence vote amazes me. [More…]
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I wish to outline what the Labor Government has done and compare the figures of expenditure by this Government with the figures of expenditure by the previous Government, in 1970-71 an amount of $ 1,097m was spent on the defence vote. [More…]
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In 1970-71, $296m was voted for education. [More…]
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In 1972-73 the vote was $439m. [More…]
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In this first year of our Government, $843m has been voted, an increase of $404m in the education field. [More…]
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In 1970-71, $559m was voted for health. [More…]
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In 1972-73 the vote was $783m. [More…]
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This year $978.9m has been voted. [More…]
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But my recollection, which can be corrected by those who have greater knowledge, is that there was a tied vote at the conference in Launceston and because there was a tied vote the motion for the abolition of ASIO was not carried. [More…]
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So I urge the Senate, when it comes to vote, to vote in favour of the retention of the renunciation. [More…]
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I would suggest, because of the nature of the debate that has gone on so far, that for the purposes of clarity we should, with the permission of the Committee, take a separate vote on the first part of the proposition rather than on both pans of the proposition at the one time. [More…]
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As we intend to persist with our amendment I would urge the Minister to think of further adjourning this matter and having it reconsidered in the light of the propositions that have been presented from this side of the chamber; but in any case I, and obviously Senator Davidson and those who support him in this proposition, will vote against the amendment as it has been presented by the Minister. [More…]
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The vote which was taken this evening related to the first portion of the proposal. [More…]
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It is of great wonder to me that this double-dealing Government, after slashing the Defence vote from its promised 3.5 per cent to 3.2 per cent of the gross national product, to 2.9 per cent, effectively removing the teeth from our defence forces, has the gall to grandstand on this Bill that it is honouring an election promise by providing these benefits. [More…]
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Senator Withers who led for the Opposition made some criticism of the Government’s present slowing down of the defence vote. [More…]
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If honourable senators look at the total defence vote, which they can do if they read the Budget Papers, they will see that more than 53 per cent of the total defence vote is used for the pay and conditions of servicemen in all of the Services. [More…]
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There has been some uncertainty at the stations because of the reduction by the United States Government in the vote to operate the stations. [More…]
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In order to enable a vote to be taken on this issue, rather than let the matter simply expire by effluxion of time, I move: [More…]
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This is the answer to the deception of a party that went to the people and said: ‘Vote for us and we will do these things’. [More…]
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All the people needed to do was to vote Labor. [More…]
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Every delay in every purchase is at the feet of this Government which decided, because it thought the migrants would vote against it, that it would not have a selective migration program. [More…]
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Only Aboriginal adults will be entitled to vote in the election, from which 4 1 reprepresentatives will be elected. [More…]
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The fact is that the vote for education this year is $843m which is an increase of $404m or 92 per cent over that of last year. [More…]
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The Government is satisfied with the progress that it has made up to date despite the Labor man in South Australia, mentioned by Senator Jessop, who may not vote Labor again because we did not adopt his philosophy on inflation. [More…]
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The Australian Labor Party persuaded the people to vote for it last December. [More…]
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Eventually a vote was taken, and Steele Hall had to go to the people. [More…]
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I believe that any party which gets 50 per cent plus one of the votes of the electors is entitled to govern. [More…]
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One only has to look at what has happened in Queensland where there is a Country Party Government which got only a little more than 19 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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They sent the kids of this country who did not even have a vote to fight their battles for them. [More…]
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In relation to the general question of redundancy and possible retrenchments, the idea of the Government was to announce to the central labour organisations what the redundancies and retrenchments might amount to and to discuss ways of making retrenchments made necessary by the reduction in the defence vote. [More…]
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The committee has been asked to consider urgently the workload that might be available in the areas where there is redundancy because of the reduced vote. [More…]
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If the few hundred people who might have to go off at some plants have to be kept on for, say, 2 months and there is no work available, obviously the maintenance vote will cut out more quickly. [More…]
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For the information of Opposition senators and so that when a vote is taken on this issue they will vote either for the truth of what was said in the election speech delivered by the Prime Minister or for what is alleged by Senator McManus to have been said, I shall read to the Senate what the Prime Minister said. [More…]
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I would say that honourable senators opposite could not possibly vote in favour of the Opposition’s amendment as no support has been put forward for it by any of them. [More…]
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I now speak with much concern about the defence vote. [More…]
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There were many people in Parliament House last week who were very concerned by the fact that this vote had been reduced and that their jobs were in jeopardy. [More…]
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There are other people in Australia who are very concerned for the safety of this country because that vote has been reduced. [More…]
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They have met the operations consistent with what was necessary to keep Air Force expenditure within the vote which nas been allotted to it in view of the huge amount which has been appropriated in other directions in the defence Services. [More…]
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What the Leader of this Government is saying to us is this: ‘Come along with me and vote yes for our prices referendum. [More…]
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But now he says: ‘By the way, I want you to vote yes because my Caucus has forced me to support this referendum. [More…]
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The Liberal Party will vote against the second reading of the Bill. [More…]
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If the Second Reading of the Bill is carried, we will vote against every clause of the Bill in the Committee stage. [More…]
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If the Bill is not then defeated, we will vote against the Bill at the third reading stage. [More…]
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If we succeed in defeating this Bill and the Government wants to bring it forward again in 3 months time, as it is entitled to do under section 128 of the Constitution, we will again vote against the Bill. [More…]
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The next subject for debate which is brought on by the President of the Senate is a Bill which seeks legislative enactment by this Parliament that the people be asked to determine by popular vote whether there should be price control exerted by the Australian Parliament in order to curb inflation. [More…]
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But while honourable senators know that the Australian people are concerned about the price structure they have refused, by their remarks this evening and by the manner in which they have chosen to oppose Government legislation, to give the people the right by way of popular vote to say yea or nay whether they want to give this Parliament-not the Government but this Parliament- power over prices. [More…]
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If they choose to vote collectively the Liberal Party senators, the Country Party senators, the Democratic Labor Party senators, quite disregarding the Independent senators, can defeat any legislation in this Parliament. [More…]
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So it is about time the Opposition determined that the Australian people have the right to express themselves by way of popular vote. [More…]
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I do not blame the Labor Party for its efforts to persuade the Parliament if at the same time it gets across to the people of Australia the reasons why, if the referendum is held, they should be prepared to vote to give the central Government power over prices. [More…]
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If one does not want the Constitution to be altered, it is customary for one to vote ‘No’. [More…]
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When he was asked why, he said: ‘Because in Australia there are more women voters than men voters and they have always been taught to say no’. [More…]
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May I remind the honourable senator that what we are proposing tonight is that the Senate and the Parliament of Australia will allow the people of Australia to vote on a certain proposition. [More…]
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That proposition was defeated by only 45 votes to 42, I am told, and the Prime Minister (Mr Whitlam) was in favour of the proposition to let the people have a vote on the question of incomes. [More…]
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Everybody here knows that no vote will be taken on that Bill until next week. [More…]
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Nobody is under any illusion that the vote will not be taken until next week. [More…]
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Getting back to the point, everybody knows that no vote will be taken until the middle of next week. [More…]
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Senator McManus said that a vote could not be taken today on the Constitution Alteration (Prices) Bill. [More…]
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I would have thought that by now every honourable senator knows how he will vote on the question of putting a referendum to the people relating to the Constitution. [More…]
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Honourable senators could talk for another six or seven weeks and the vote would be exactly the same. [More…]
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I had an argument to develop in order to justify this proposition, but I will not do so in view of what was said this morning, that there is a determination to take a vote on this measure next week. [More…]
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I never knew about this until the Opposition suggested that the vote will not be taken until next week, and I know of no reason why it cannot be taken today. [More…]
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Nothing will be done on this side of the chamber which would prevent a vote being taken today. [More…]
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So it is only a question now of wasting time so that a vote cannot be taken this week. [More…]
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In view of the determination to delay a vote on this measure and not to assist its passage in any way, I will limit what I have to say on the matter. [More…]
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It has had the view of 45 out of the 98 or 88 members of Caucus, or whatever number of members of Caucus are entitled to vote, and that is it. [More…]
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If it is not politically stupid it will see beyond the vote of the 45 and the fact that the unions are all-powerful in the Labor Party’s internal discussions. [More…]
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It is not true to say that the vote of the Senate at this time will prevent the Government having its referendum. [More…]
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They cannot obtain 31 votes under those circumstances. [More…]
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Do they want the vote to be taken during a period when they cannot win? [More…]
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I took note of the statement made by Senator Little that even if a vote were taken today the Government could not obtain the required 31 votes. [More…]
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Therefore, the only delay that is involved by waiting until next week to take a vote on this Bill, if it were to be carried, would be a delay of less than one week. [More…]
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These are the very people who in this place have prattled incessantly over the past few weeks about one vote one value. [More…]
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You cannot attain government and create divisions, as this Government has done, and expect the people to roll up and vote for you. [More…]
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I am glad to vote against the proposition. [More…]
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I will vote against the Bill. [More…]
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It has been repeatedly pointed out, and I do so again, the program of the Senate is such that a vote would have been taken next week. [More…]
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If a vote is taken next week any possible referendum will be postponed by only a few days. [More…]
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It is being suggested that if the Senate and the Parliament acquiesce to this referendum proposal, and if the public acquiesce by way of a yes’ vote, prices would be controlled. [More…]
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They voted against it before. [More…]
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The Government is grossly misrepresenting the position by failing to tell the people of Australia that almost always a ‘No’ vote is recorded. [More…]
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I ask the Senate to vote on this motion. [More…]
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By putting this motion to a vote, we can show the feeling of the Senate. [More…]
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The question on procedures and deliberations leading to the acquisition I answer this way: The National Gallery acquisition vote for 1973-74 is $4m. [More…]
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I remind all honourable members that it is completely identical in all respects with the measure which was introduced by me in this chamber on 10 May 1973 and which was carried in this House by vote on decision without amendment on 1 7 May 1 973. [More…]
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It was introduced into the Senate on 22 May 1973 and its consideration was there adjourned, by vote on division of the Senate, until after the first day of sitting of the Senate after I August 1 973. [More…]
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Secondly, the Opposition both in the House of Representatives and in this chamber will welcome at any time when the Government chooses to take an initiative which is open to it the submission of the Government’s record of its 9 months of office to the people of this country so that they can vote upon it. [More…]
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Whatever differences have arisen and may have been carried to division as to whether general business or business of the Senate should be discussed in preference to Government business, the Opposition has not sought to determine by vote of the Senate the order in which the Government places its business on the notice paper. [More…]
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In introducing this Bill I remind all honourable senators that it is completely identical in all respects with the measure which was introduced by the Minister for Minerals and Energy (Mr Connor) in another place on 10 May 1973 and which was carried in the House of Representatives, by vote on decision without amendment, on 17 May 1973. [More…]
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It was introduced into the Senate on 22 May 1973 and its consideration was then adjourned, by vote on division of the Senate, until after the first day of sitting of the Senate after 1 August 1973. [More…]
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Its consideration was also adjourned, by vote on division of the Senate, until after the first day of sitting of the Senate after 1 August 1973. [More…]
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I rise to inform the Senate that the Australian Democratic Labor Party will vote for this Bill. [More…]
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I repeat what I said at the beginning: My Party nevertheless will vote for this Bill and facilitate its passage. [More…]
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Even if a yes vote were cast in a referendum, the Government could not act on it until January or February. [More…]
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I can only warn that, as throughout history, the people of Australia very rightly will vote against the centralisation of powers. [More…]
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Therefore the Opposition will vote against this legislation. [More…]
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It will vote against whatever form the Government wishes to adopt to amend the legislation. [More…]
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But some people want to vote on the matter. [More…]
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I have not had a chance to carry out a survey to see the way they are thinking and therefore I will support the Government and allow those people to have that vote. [More…]
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The two heads will be put separately so that people may vote for or against power over prices and for or against power over incomes. [More…]
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However, on behalf of the Democratic Labor Party I accept the assurance now given by the Special Minister of State that the Government will introduce a Bill tomorrow to bring in this other head of referendum and that both Bills will go to a vote in the course of tomorrow’s proceedings. [More…]
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They produced a vote yesterday on the second reading of this Bill on the understanding that wage control would be exercised by the Commonwealth power. [More…]
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Having given it consideration I say now that I will not vote against it. [More…]
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He also said that he would vote for the proposition. [More…]
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If the people vote for this proposition they will not be granting power to a government. [More…]
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If legislation is brought along here which is consistent with the powers which are conferred upon the Government by a vote of the people and if we consider that that legislation is inefficient, incompetent and not sufficiently embracing to cover the whole field, then that legislation has poor chance of passing our Party. [More…]
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The Democratic Labor Party says here and now, as it has always said, that whatever legislation is brought to this Parliament as a result of this referendum which is to be put to the people, we will examine such legislation on its merits and if we consider that it is incomplete, that it does not encompass what the people desire, and in our judgment it is not in the best interests of the people, we will unhesitatingly vote against it. [More…]
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I do not agree with the proposition that we should not vote against a Bill on the basis that it is the people who should decide. [More…]
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I want to make it clear that I am one who has a very high regard for Senator McManus as a parliamentarian and on his general attitude to public questions; but I think he is a little astray when he says that we should not vote against a Bill but should let the people decide. [More…]
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If my memory serves me correctly, on the previous occasion he voted against the legislation in the chamber. [More…]
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It is rather interesting to recall that last Saturday an election took place in the middle of all the debate and publicity that has been going on in connection with the prices referendum; but apparently it did not win any votes for the Government. [More…]
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Very often, questions which look like vote winners are not. [More…]
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It turned out to be by 30,000 votes. [More…]
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The simple issue which the matter hung on was the use of a phrase which people understood- ‘ We do not want any more parliamentarians- vote “No”.’ [More…]
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I would not vote for the suspension of this standing order for anything other than a prices referendum because if I agree with anything that has been said on this subject by the Government in either House it is with those who have said: ‘If the power is to be given, it should be given quickly, because the longer you give those who will be raising prices, the more they will raise them before the Government, if it is to get power to control prices, gets that power’. [More…]
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I agree with Senator Marriott that if the people are to be asked to make a decision on this matter- in view of what could happen, the speculation in the community and the untoward, indefensible and rapid increases in prices in anticipation of the vote on the referendum which might ultimately result in the control of prices- it. [More…]
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The meaning of the word prices’, if it comes into the Constitution by reason of the decision of the people following the vote of the Senate today, will be a matter in the ultimate for determination by the High Court of Australia. [More…]
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I do not ask this question for any other purpose than to get an explanation from the responsible Government that is proposing the proposition for the information of people who will have to vote on this matter. [More…]
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They could have had a vote, if it was necessary, but they did not do so. [More…]
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Ministers have not been able to leave the Parliament because they must be here in order to vote on this measure. [More…]
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In my first term as a senator, from 1955 to 1961, there was hardly a change in the defence vote which, each year, was pegged at one hundred million pounds, although each year the value of money was decreasing. [More…]
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During the 1961 election campaign about the only thing on which the Liberal Party and the Australian Labor Party agreed - they disagreed on practically everything- was that the defence vote could continue to be pegged and that there was no necessity for Australia to improve its defences. [More…]
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This defence vote is based on the opinions of the experts as we see and know them. [More…]
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We have increased the vote for and have spent more money on defence Services homes than ever before. [More…]
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I would like to see the defence vote increased. [More…]
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But we have decided that our expenditure priorities are such that in this Budget the defence vote will be kept at 2.9 per cent of the gross national product. [More…]
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Not only do they take pride in it but I believe their morale will not suffer as a result of the cut back in the Defence vote. [More…]
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I suppose that proportionately there has been a cutback in the defence vote, although this year in terms of money the defence vote has increased. [More…]
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The West Germans, the Swedes and the British in particular have realised the need to reduce the percentage of the total vote which is expended on one unit. [More…]
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They are concerned to know whether we are going to have a referendum and whether they are to be requested to vote - [More…]
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No Senator shall reflect upon any Vote of the Senate, except for the purpose of moving that such Vote be rescinded. [More…]
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It is evident to me that Senator Durack is referring to a vote of the Senate which was taken today. [More…]
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You did not give them a vote but you sent them to war. [More…]
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In such a situation as this, it is the numbers that count, and we could do nothing more than speak and write against the proposals, and vote as we did. [More…]
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It is for these reasons that my Party will vote against the Bills and seek to defeat all 3 of them at the second reading stage. [More…]
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That is where the Government is getting its bread and butter so far as the vote is concerned. [More…]
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The Council noted the agreement between the Governments of Australia and Papua New Guinea that resolutions in the House of Assembly on important constitutional issues will be by a recorded vote and by a substantial majority representative of the nation as a whole. [More…]
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Mr President, it is interesting to note, however, that when the second reading of the Bill was agreed to by the House of Representatives on 29 May 1973, it was carried by 78 votes to 43. [More…]
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Seventeen members of the Country Party crossed the floor and voted with the Government, the other 3 members of the Country Party being absent when the vote was taken. [More…]
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Yet, when the vote on the second reading of the Bill was taken in the Senate, all 5 Country Party senators voted against it. [More…]
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The attitude taken in the past on the question of divorce was to have a free vote on the substantial issues. [More…]
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Is it the intention of the Government to post these brochures to all eligible voters? [More…]
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If so, will the Government also provide 8 million brochures for the promotion of the no vote and enable these to be posted? [More…]
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Rather than list this matter for debate in this chamber and risk the possibility of an adverse vote I would not bring it forward for consideration. [More…]
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We did not come in here and say that although we were opposed to the export tax, because the Government was imposing it we would vote for it. [More…]
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In relation to the wine excise we saw honourable senators opposite in this chamber and in public saying they opposed the tax, but on every opportunity they had to vote it out of existence they voted for it. [More…]
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For those reasons I should like the Minister to be very specific when he replies because at this point of time we feel disposed to vote for the amendment. [More…]
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Therefore in that situation I think we should proceed to a vote on the amendment I proposed and I suggest that the matter be determined by the Committee. [More…]
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Can he say also how many persons will be eligible to vote in the referendum? [More…]
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About 120,000 persons are eligible to vote, all of whom will receive postal ballot papers and the arguments for and against the referendum proposal. [More…]
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In view of the universal support given to this resolution by the Senate- it was a unanimous vote- will the Minister arrange for the Government to direct our ambassador to the United Nations, Sir Lawrence Mclntyre, to press this resolution as a matter of extreme urgency? [More…]
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The letter calls on the Senate to support the vote. [More…]
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I hope that the vote this evening will serve as a warning to the Government that the view of the people of a particular area should not be disregarded; that the opinion of the duly elected legislative council of an area should not be completely disregarded; and that the opinion of this Senate, so recently expressed in opposition to the Government’s action, should not be treated in such a manner as it has been by the previous Minister for the Australian Capital Territory. [More…]
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For these reasons and on the basis of the assurances that have been given to us that these leases are being carefully considered, that a new approach has been taken to them and that better and more acceptable assurances have been given to the people, on this occasion we will not vote for the rejection of the acquisition but will support it. [More…]
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One Opposition senator, Senator Bonner, saw fit to support us in that vote. [More…]
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The Democratic Labor Party is gravely concerned and bitterly disappointed that there was not sufficient sensitivity in this chamber to allow this proposition to go to a vote in order to assist this nation which is fighting for its existence against superior forces and the tremendous pressures which surround that small piece of territory in the Middle East. [More…]
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The Government introduced the proposals to take a vote of the people and its viewpoint was endorsed by the House of Representatives and the Senate. [More…]
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We agreed that the members would go out and battle to obtain a ‘yes’ vote on both matters which are being put to the people. [More…]
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I believe that this type of discrimination is part of the reason why this referendum will never succeed in securing the vote of the Australian people. [More…]
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It will seek a majority vote of the Committee of the Whole to have the improvements made to the Bill. [More…]
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The Australian Democratic Labor Party will vote for this Bill at the second reading stage and like Senator Greenwood we will be seeking amendments during the Committee stage. [More…]
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The Constitution provides that the voter shall have before him before he votes both the case for and the case against. [More…]
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Our attitude to union amalgamation is that every union member should have before him before he votes a clear case for and a clear case against the amalgamation. [More…]
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We believe that before any amalgamation takes place the majority of union members ought to vote for it. [More…]
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If they fail to vote for it there should be no amalgamation. [More…]
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We believe that the entire union membership has the right to vote on the question of amalgamation and that before they vote they should have the case for and the case against amalgamation. [More…]
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I am saying that the majority of union members ought to vote in a properly supervised ballot. [More…]
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My Party and I will settle for nothing less than a ballot in which the majority of union members vote- that is, 50 per cent plus one- in a properly supervised ballet. [More…]
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If less than 50 per cent vote in the ballot, no amalgamation should take place. [More…]
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Is it not a fact that the Senate derives its constitution and existence in the same way as the other House of Parliament insofar as it is elected by the people of this country by vote? [More…]
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For that reason, Sir, we will vote against the motion. [More…]
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In those circumstances the DLP will vote for the new hours. [More…]
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I am prepared to say that if there were a conscience vote on this issue half the members of the Liberal Party would move over and vote with us. [More…]
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The old ritual goes back to the English parliamentary system whereby the individual vote of each member is counted. [More…]
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We know what the result will be when the vote is taken. [More…]
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Senator Sir KENNETH ANDERSON (New South Wales) (3.31)- I rise to speak ever so briefly on this motion as I feel an obligation to give some explanation of the fact that I will vote against the motion. [More…]
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Looking at this debate from the point of view of someone who is responsible for the arrangement of the business in the Senate, the position is that we have spent the whole afternoon deciding the hours of meeting, knowing immediately after Senator McManus had spoken to the motion what the outcome of the vote would be. [More…]
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I do not mind how the vote on the motion goes. [More…]
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Probably people like me will give an affirmative vote for both questions- but I suppose I should not canvass that proposition here. [More…]
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In respect of the amalgamation clauses, I understand that Senator Greenwood and those who support him insist that a majority of members should vote in a ballot before the agreement can take place. [More…]
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After discussing all the pros and cons the demand is made by a majority vote of the men assembled at the meeting. [More…]
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The Tasmanian Government, with its decision endorsed by a parliamentary vote there, considers that this scheme is essential for the continued economic development of hydroelectricity in Tasmania. [More…]
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If so, will the Minister inform the Senate whether the transport cost will come from the vote of the Prime Minister’s Department or from that of the RAAF which has already suffered seriously from a curtailment of funds and flying hours? [More…]
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The Senate did not vote to restore an ordinance, it voted to disallow a repeal of an ordinance and there may be a difference in the legal effect of those 2 approaches. [More…]
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As for Australia’s actions at the United Nations, we vote in the way that we think best for Australia and the rest of the world. [More…]
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The exact number escapes my memory but I see from an article on this subject that some 90 per cent of those who would be eligible to vote for the National Aboriginal Consultative Committee have enrolled. [More…]
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I will be pleased to see you vote that way. [More…]
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Is that what the Opposition is going to vote for, so that these practices can go on? [More…]
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But if the Opposition votes to delay this Bill by some amendment and to put it over until the next year, that means it is deliberately saying ‘We are not prepared to consider any amendment of the existing legislation which we know to be unworkable and we are prepared, for whatever motive, to allow those practices to go on and to leave the consumer unprotected. [More…]
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We have always considered that our prime duty and responsibility was adequately to scrutinise legislation and administrative acts and, having done that, then to vote accordingly and to express what we think is the will of the Australian people in our vote in the Senate. [More…]
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Yet the slur was cast that if we voted according to our consciences we would subscribe to the Murphy Bill; that if we voted in the national interest and not according to the dictates of outside interest we would vote for the Bill. [More…]
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Refuting the imputations- the dishonourable and despicable imputations- of the AttorneyGeneral that there are people on this side of the House who vote not according to their conscience but according to directives from outside, let it be remembered that during the long exile of the Australian Labor Party in opposition it was the Liberal-Country Party Government, through the mouth of Sir Garfield Barwick, and having been urged on by Senator Hannan and others in the Party, which brought in legislation to regulate trade practices. [More…]
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Then it will come in here and, if the numbers are the same as they are now, it will vote to reject the legislation anyway. [More…]
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They do not have the courage to vote against this legislation. [More…]
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I also ask the Minister if he recalls that at a meeting of Senate Estimates Committee F and again in this House some few weeks ago he did give the assurance that the cases which were to be sent out, apparently to those who had a right to vote, would be given to some members of the Senate including myself? [More…]
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Has the attention of the Minister for Primary Industry been drawn to reported statements that even if Australian wool growers vote in the affirmative on the question of the export of merino rams, the unions concerned will still refuse to allow the export of any rams? [More…]
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Will the Minister make it clear to those concerned that in the event of an affirmative vote the Government will take firm action to see that no union impediment will prevent the export of these rams? [More…]
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We want them to consider and to vote on the making of agreements. [More…]
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In this case the Democratic Labor Party has decided to vote for the extra 2 judges on the grounds that in our opinion the case for them is unanswerable. [More…]
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That is the reason why we will vote against the amendment moved by Senator Wright. [More…]
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Naturally, we will not divide on the issue which will be put to the vote shortly. [More…]
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This amalgamation was brought about by a vote of an insignificant number of members of the Boilermakers and Blacksmiths Society of Australia and Sheet Metalworking Union of Australia who conducted the ballot without the control of the court or the electoral officer. [More…]
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The original provisions which were laid down in what has been rather disparingly and quite unfairly called ‘Lynch law’ which was introduced last year provided a proper protection for rank and file members so that their assets, rights and union connections could not be disposed of without a substantial vote of the people concerned. [More…]
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If this legislation were allowed to go through unchallenged it would be technically possible- I know it is unlikely- for an amalgamation to be brought about by the vote of 2 members. [More…]
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Moreover, our affirmative vote was intended to indicate Australia’s support for the efforts of the international community in the Middle East and to reflect our view that the United Nations should be encouraged in its efforts to facilitate progress towards a peaceful settlement. [More…]
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We gave an explanation of our vote because we were not completely happy with the resolution as it stood and our explanation incorporated the precise language of resolution 242 regarding the right of states to live within secure and recognised boundaries. [More…]
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Australia’s support of Israel ‘s right to exist as a state, which goes back to its vote in the General Assembly in 1948, is unchanged. [More…]
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I can see from the expression on Senator Greenwood’s face that he thinks that there is something very damning to our case in the fact the only 9 per cent of the members of the Amalgamated Engineering Union voted. [More…]
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Mr Lynch points out in great detail that the proposition that most people who do not vote in a ballot like that can be taken to be against the proposal has no validity whatsoever. [More…]
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What percentage of the members voted in the famous amalgamation of the metal trades unions? [More…]
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Was there ever a bigger scandal in regard to democracy than to allege that the amalgamation was democratic when only about 1 7 per cent of the members voted? [More…]
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If there is to be a takeover of a public company, 90 per cent of the shareholders have to vote. [More…]
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People say to me that 50 per cent is too many; that 50 per cent cannot be expected to vote. [More…]
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If 50 per cent of members are not prepared to vote favourably, it means that a majority of the members are not in favour of amalgamation. [More…]
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Sometimes I hear people say that communist union secretaries can be good blokes, that they are very efficient and that it is no wonder that many of the workers vote for them. [More…]
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It had to assure the court that a majority of those who participated in the vote agreed that the amalgamation should be entered into. [More…]
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-But at present 50 per cent have to vote. [More…]
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There are reasons why a unionist cannot vote on a particular occasion, such as absence on holidays and some fault in the delivery of mail. [More…]
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Should a majority of the union have to vote? [More…]
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I sense that the Minister wants to put this matter to the vote- a situation which I know we have sought to avoid in this place for a long time. [More…]
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For those reasons and because we think it is highly undesirable that one area of Australia, because it happens to come under Commonwealth jurisdiction and finds itself exempt from some other constitutional requirement, should be able to have a discriminatory administrative policy in this respect, the Australian Democratic Labor Party will oppose the legislation and vote against it. [More…]
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Matters relating to the precincts of Parliament House have been a vexed question with me since I have been placed in my position by the vote of honourable senators. [More…]
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At a meeting of the Committee, the person presiding has a deliberative vote and, in the event of an equality of votes, also has a casting vote. [More…]
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Half the members of that Committee represented the Opposition side of the Parliament and I was an extra, and the Government was sure that four or five of those members would vote for Omega. [More…]
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The Democratic Labor Party will vote for the second reading of this Bill and we intend to do all we can to ensure that a Commission is established. [More…]
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While there has been a Democratic Labor Party it has voted for every measure which offered progress for education. [More…]
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I conclude by saying once again that we will vote for the second reading of this BDI. [More…]
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When will candidates be informed of the actual method of marking ballot papers, thus enabling them to prepare how to vote material? [More…]
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-Candidates have freedom to canvass votes for themselves. [More…]
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A cross against a name or against a photograph will count as a formal vote. [More…]
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I recall the interest of members of the Labor Party in saying One vote one value’ or ‘One person’s vote has to be as good as the other person’s’. [More…]
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It has been a rule of the Liberal Party that, in regard to matters such as the siting of the new and permanent parliament house, each and every senator may speak and vote as he or she thinks fit. [More…]
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In my role as Leader of the Opposition, I indicate to the Senate that honourable senators on this side of the chamber- as, I understand, is the case in respect of those on the Government side and, in fact, all round the chamber- will be completely free to vote as they think fit. [More…]
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It is proposed that we should come back into the chamber, have a vote and put an end to a matter on which there has been a great deal of debate and discussion. [More…]
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If people are away- some might be away- and if there is a close vote, there will be problems. [More…]
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We could meet together, have a vote and be done with the matter. [More…]
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Does this mean that a senator is bound to vote in this place according to the way that the majority voted at the joint meeting? [More…]
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At the joint meeting I may well vote for site A, and site B may be carried by the joint meeting. [More…]
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Somebody gave me the statistics- I think they were used in the debate in the House of Representatives- which show that of the members of the House of Representatives who voted on this question on the last occasion, in 1969, only 60 per cent are presently in that chamber. [More…]
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Now nobody is quite sure, firstly, how those who voted last time will vote this time and, secondly, how the new senators will vote. [More…]
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The great decision of the Senate on that occasion was taken by a margin of 2 votes, and 2 senator’s who voted for the joint meeting are absent today. [More…]
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Senator Murphy has said that it would not be a constitutional meeting, just the determination of a consensus of opinion; that we would get together and vote. [More…]
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The members present at the joint sitting may deliberate and shall vote together upon the proposed law as last proposed by the House of Representatives and upon amendments, if any, which have been made therein by one House and not agreed by the other . [More…]
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The members present at the joint sitting may deliberate and shall vote together upon the proposed law as last proposed by the House of Representatives, and upon amendments, if any, which have been made therein by one House and not agreed to by the other, and any such amendments which are affirmed by an absolute majority of the total number of the members . [More…]
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Questions arising in the Senate shall be determined by a majority of votes, and each senator shall have one vote. [More…]
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The President shall in all cases be entitled to a vote; and when the votes are equal the question shall pass in the negative. [More…]
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Because of my loyalty to the Senate I would vote at any such meeting not according to my feelings but according to the view of the Senate. [More…]
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Although there was a free vote, as we have been told, the Government made a decision. [More…]
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If we want to get this matter solved in a constitutional way, if we want to get it solved effectively, and if we want to get the procedure that will give the Parliament the promptest decision, I urge the Senate to reject the proposal for a joint tete-a-tete meeting at which a vote would be taken without debate. [More…]
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That resolution of 6 May 1 97 1 provided for no vote - [More…]
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It provided for the resolution, such as it was, to be ascertained by a majority of votes. [More…]
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It has been indicated by way of interjection that there would be a much more responsible way of ascertaining our individual views if we simply took a secret vote from members and counted them up without going to the inappropriate procedure of a joint meeting. [More…]
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In other words, the majority of all members, by separate vote of both Houses, indicated quite clearly that Capital Hill was their choice. [More…]
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But all prime ministers resign, they are not removed by a vote of the Parliament. [More…]
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They are removed in their Party rooms by vote of the members at that level. [More…]
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Decisions were made and I believe that his position then was that we did not require another full scale debate at that stage for members to vote on the question. [More…]
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They would have been able to cast their vote and the outcome would have been decided by the numbers. [More…]
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A free vote has been given on this. [More…]
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But whether we met there, in Kings Hall or at the Lakeside Hotel and take a vote by putting up our hands, the fact of the matter is that for the expenditure involved in building a parliament house there must be an appropriation. [More…]
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It has been said that in 1969 there was a vote on this matter. [More…]
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But the fact is, as Senator Withers said, that something like 40 per cent of the people who took part in the vote in the other House at that time are not members any more and about 15 per cent of the then senators are not here any more. [More…]
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It is suggested that, because there is an element of difference of view within the various parties, there should be a system whereby we have what could almost be called a kangaroo court vote on this issue. [More…]
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I did not have a free vote when we dealt with this matter the last time because I was the guinea pig who had to move the motion on behalf of the then Government. [More…]
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The Senate has received a message requesting a joint sitting of the 2 Houses of Parliament at which a vote of members and senators would purport to decide the site. [More…]
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If there were a genuine intention on the part of the former Government or this Government to be influenced by the united vote of the 2 Houses of Parliament, regard would be paid to the fact that the House of Representatives voted on a site and that the Senate voted on a site. [More…]
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We know, of course, that the Gorton Government trampled into the ground that decision on the basis of the united vote of the 2 Houses and that it decided that the new and permanent parliament house should be on Camp Hill. [More…]
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For those reasons I will support the proposal that there should be a joint meeting of both Houses because the members of both Houses are sent here by the same electors in the Commonwealtheverybody over the age of 18 years who is entitled to vote. [More…]
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I will support the proposition for a joint meeting and, for the information of those who are present in the chamber, when it comes to a vote I will support the proposal to construct the new and permanent parliament house on Capital Hill where I think it ought to be situated. [More…]
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Members of this Parliament should be able to cast a vote for one site or the other. [More…]
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If we have a vote we have the numbers for a certain site. [More…]
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Obviously one of the difficulties which is presenting itself to honourable senators is the fact that if a joint sitting of both Houses were held in some way the Senate may submerge its dignity lose its independence and, in the vote that is subsequently taken, be overwhelmed by the House of Representatives. [More…]
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One must not reflect on a vote of this House, but one can comment on it. [More…]
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If ever there was proof that this place should not have voted on the principal motion before it, it would be found in the result of the last division which was 20 to 25 against the Government One of the reasons why I want the debate to continue is that 1 realise that under the absurd sitting hours we are now forced to follow, as a result of which the question that the Senate adjourn is put at 7 p.m. a thin Senate would be present to make a decision of lasting importance to this country, a decision the effect of which will not be seen, I suggest, by very many, if any, honourable senators now in this chamber. [More…]
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The situation is that all of a sudden, after months of inaction, we have brought before us a motion for a joint meeting of the 2 Houses to vote on this very subject matter. [More…]
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That is the implied threat that, if a ‘yes ‘ vote is recorded at the prices referendum on 8 December, price control may be used by the Government. [More…]
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The Department of Aboriginal Affairs has increased the vote in each State for the Aboriginal housing program. [More…]
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Speaking now for my own Party, we have at this time a determinant vote in this chamber because of the numerical disposition of honourable senators on the Government and nonGovernment side. [More…]
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As far as I am concerned I will vote accordingly to give Supply. [More…]
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-After considerable delay and a somewhat discursive debate the Special Minister for State and Minister for Foreign Affairs (Senator Willesee) made quite clear my interpretation of this item and confirmed the identification of this vote with the purchase of the painting ‘Blue Poles ‘. [More…]
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This vote is here identified with a purchase that has been so roundly condemned. [More…]
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Others would say that it is a cowardly attitude not to face up to the requirement that that should be adequately answered and justified before we vote not $ 1.9m or even 90c for a picture that may have been purchased by corrupt means. [More…]
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In those circumstances, having given the Minister the opportunity to defer this item- he could quite easily do that in relation to an emergency Bill without loss of face or other qualification, and he could allow it to come up in the general debate- if my offer is declined I conceive the parliamentary duty to be quite clear; that is, to put the proposition to the vote of the Senate to see whether there are sufficient members in the Senate who are prepared to vote the people’s money, a sum of $1.9m, for the purchase of an object of art the papers in respect of which we have not seen, about the integrity of the purchase of which we are not satisfied, and the prudence of which transaction the majority condemns. [More…]
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I think we ought to vote on this matter now and I think we ought to have voted on it some time ago. [More…]
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I appreciate Mr Calder ‘s stand on the matter and applaud the fact that he demonstrated how we on this side of the chamber have the right to vote according to our own wishes. [More…]
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The Country Party senators, together with all other honourable senators on this side of the chamber, recognised that this Bill jeopardised the position of the States of this country and quite properly exercised their vote accordingly in the interests of the States. [More…]
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For that reason the Democratic Labor Party will not vote for this proposal to alter the basis upon which the future numbers in the Senate may depend. [More…]
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He was not entitled to vote on any matter. [More…]
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In 1936 this member was given the right to vote on a motion to disallow an ordinance affecting the Northern Territory. [More…]
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At that time the Democratic Labor Party voted with the Opposition to disallow the ordinance. [More…]
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However, I am pleased to say that after careful thought the Democratic Labor Party saw fit to vote with us on the next occasion when the ordinance was before us. [More…]
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In 1968 a Bill was introduced in the House of Representatives to give the member for the Northern Territory the right to vote on any matter as soon as it had received royal assent. [More…]
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When the vote was taken in the House of Representatives on the original Senate (Representation of Territories) Bill the member for the Northern Territory, Mr Calder, voted for the Bill. [More…]
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The member in the House of Representatives is entitled to vote on any matter and has all the rights and privileges of an ordinary State member of the Parliament. [More…]
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Originally the representative of the North Territory could vote only on matters affecting the Northern Territory. [More…]
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After a lot of agitation from the Oppositionthe Labor Party at the time- the Government finally gave him the right to vote on all matters; rightly so. [More…]
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When the vote was taken in the House of Representatives on the original Bill, it was carried by 78 votes to 43. [More…]
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Seventeen members of the Country Party crossed the floor and voted with the Government, the other 3 members of the Country Party being absent when the vote was taken. [More…]
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He said that members of the Liberal Party were in a different position from that of members of the Australian Labor Party because they were not supporting Senate representation for the Territories and because they could vote against the wishes of the Party. [More…]
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Prior to the suspension of the sitting Senator Drake-Brockman said that although members of the Country Party voted for this Bill in the House of Representatives there was no need for members of that Party to vote for it in the Senate. [More…]
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When one looks at the way in which members of the Country Party in the other place voted on this Bill, and at what members in this place have said about how they will vote on it, how can they in all conscience put an advertisement in today’s paper asking the people of New South Wales to vote for them because of internal Party unity when, by their actions in the Senate, they show they have no unity on something which benefits the people? [More…]
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He has been in politics long enough to know full well that honourable senators cannot vote for the abolition of the Senate. [More…]
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The Opposition cannot promote the old scare tactic that if these people are given a vote this will whittle away the powers of the Senate and that eventually this House will be abolished. [More…]
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Having revealed the primitive, immature, political device whereby Gough should have 2, 3 or 4 territorial accretions in this place to overcome the democratic majority which has been established in this place by an electoral vote, let us examine the reconciliation which can be made between this proposal and fundamental constitutional conceptions. [More…]
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I for my part stand here in my twentyfourth year in the Senate- some will scream ‘too long’ but that I am prepared to put to a votehaving seen a terrific development of this chamber on the basis of equal representation of the States. [More…]
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To think that we would agree to this immature, politically devised intrusion whereby 2 territories should be given an adventitious vote here, each not of ten but of two honourable senators! [More…]
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Those are the realities as compared with this tendentious, piddling, socialist nonsense whereby the Government tries to fiddle a vote for the Northern Territory by asking for 2 seats in the Senate. [More…]
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I say to members of the Opposition that if they vote against this legislation they will vote against what the representative from the Northern Territory wants. [More…]
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The Nationalist Party, I suppose now- crossed the floor and voted with the Government, the other 3 members of the Country Party being absent when the vote was taken. [More…]
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The Government has presented it again and after a vote is taken tonight we will know the Senate ‘s reaction to this Bill. [More…]
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A previous speaker from the Labor Party- I do not think it was Senator Milliner- stated that it was Labor Party policy to abolish the Senate but the Labor Party, he said, had not acted on that policy for many years and it was unlikely that Labor members would vote themselves out of office. [More…]
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When he comes up for election in Victoria in the next 6 or 8 months he will have to find some 300,000 first preference votes before he is elected. [More…]
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I acknowledge that there is the problem in Victoria that 300,000 first preference votes will be required to return a senator. [More…]
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The Labor Party suggests that we should adopt the principle of one vote one value. [More…]
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Whatever wording is adopted, it will represent an attempt by the Labor Party to introduce the principle of one vote one value. [More…]
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Senator Poyser, who tries to interrupt again, knows that in Victoria a candidate must have 300,000 first preference votes before he is elected to the Senate. [More…]
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In New South Wales I think that some 600,000 first preference votes are required. [More…]
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I sincerely hope that when a vote is taken on this matter this Bill will be rejected. [More…]
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If all the Territories are represented after a period, ultimately, with governments giving more and more representation to them, the States could be outvoted, and that would destroy the purpose for which this chamber was established. [More…]
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I sincerely hope that when the vote is taken the majority will be in opposition to the Bill. [More…]
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He loses the right to vote at Senate elections and the right to vote in referenda. [More…]
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We will leave the matter to the vote. [More…]
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People have stood here and in the other place and said: ‘Yes, we agree with it but we are not going to vote for it’. [More…]
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I suppose if the result were very close one could probably say that a larger vote should have been taken. [More…]
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It will be done that way no doubt to save the expense of conducting a vote of all citizens. [More…]
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A vote was taken. [More…]
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The Senate, in its wisdom, decided that the debate should not cease, the motion being defeated by a majority of 5 votes, 25 to 20. [More…]
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That indicated that at that hour, because of the parliamentary and electoral duties, ill-health and such, there were only 45 out of 60 senators available to vote on a subject which would have an effect on the Australian nation for many hundreds of years- an effect which would be for good if the right decisions were made, and for evil and harm, and at great cost, if the wrong decisions were made. [More…]
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I did not want to delay a decision but I wanted to prevent the taking of two or three votes during the last moments of the parliamentary week when only 45 senators were available to vote. [More…]
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If we can come to a vote on the questions before us this evening I believe that in spite of parliamentary and other duties and health requirements 55-odd senators would be available, which is about par for the course for a nearly complete muster of senators to give a Senate decision. [More…]
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If we come to a vote I will support Senator Prowse ‘s amendment because at least that would kill the motion relating to a joint meeting. [More…]
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I do not believe that the members of both Houses have yet had a fit and proper opportunity to vote. [More…]
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I believe that when the last vote was taken many members were absent. [More…]
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I do not believe that just getting a vote or a count of heads would achieve anything. [More…]
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With regard to the site, I do not see why we cannot vote as we did before on a particular site which members of this chamber believe would be the best place to put the new and permanent parliament house. [More…]
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That the words proposed to be inserted be omitted and in lieu thereof the following words be inserted: is of the opinion that an assembly of all members of the Federal Parliament be convened forthwith within Parliament House, to determine by vote of such assembly the site of the new and permanent parliament house. ‘ [More…]
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-The words to be inserted would be these: is of the opinion that an assembly of all members of the Federal Parliament be convened forthwith within Parliament House to determine by vote of such assembly the site of the new and permanent parliament house. [More…]
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I rise to speak to this amendment in the belief that someone may get the impression that it is something new and therefore may vote for it. [More…]
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We have just decided by vote to agree to part of Senator Prowse ‘s amendment. [More…]
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Thank you, Mr Deputy President, for the courtesy, but I speak as an individual senator having the right of a free vote. [More…]
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I am not prepared to vote for the amendment proposed by Senator Byrne because I agree with the arguments advanced by Senator Cavanagh. [More…]
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I intend to vote against both of them because I believe the only solution to this is the method foreshadowed by Senator Wright. [More…]
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I will stay with that attitude and vote against all these propositions. [More…]
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I understand that this is a simple situation where every senator can vote as an individual, not representative of a party, not a representative even of a group that may get together on this kind of issue. [More…]
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I urge honourable senators to vote for this amendment so that we can get a quick decision and so that we are not faced with having a Bill on the notice paper this year, next year, some time or never in relation to it. [More…]
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I hope that honourable senators will vote for this amendment so that we can get some satisfactory decision which will be a guide to the Executive of this Parliament. [More…]
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As a matter of courtesy, Mr Acting Deputy President, can the vote be recommitted so that there is clarification? [More…]
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They hope that if they repeat often enough their claim that we are penalising the poor widows and the poor outback man somebody may believe them enough to cast a vote for them at the next election. [More…]
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The Wine Overseas Marketing Bill sets the basis for a distillery or a winery to qualify for a vote on matters pertaining to the continuation of the Australian Wine Board. [More…]
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For that reason I intend to vote against the motion for the second reading of the Bill. [More…]
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I intend to vote against the motion for the second reading of the Bill. [More…]
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Therefore, I suggest that the motion that the Bill be now read a second time be put to a vote. [More…]
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If there is a desire to use this information for an election purpose, is there not a responsibility on a member to make this plain before voters innocently decide how to cast their vote as to who their representative will be without knowing of the activities of a certain candidate? [More…]
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Will he make inquiries, and advise the Senate when the information is available, as to whether it is true, as indicated in the Launceston ‘Examiner’ of Monday, 19 November, that the Prime Minister travelled, presumably by Royal Australian Air Force VIP aircraft, on Saturday, 1 7 November, from Adelaide to Sydney to record his vote at the State election and continued to Launceston, arriving one hour late for his appointment at an agricultural show? [More…]
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Are not postal votes available to New South Wales electors who wake up in time? [More…]
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One was that elected local government should have both a voice and a vote in the loan council. [More…]
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There are a number of matters to which I need to refer but I am hoping, because I think most of that which has to be said already has been said, that we will be able to get a vote on these amendments this evening. [More…]
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There are a number of other matters to which I would normally allude but because of the lateness of the hour and because of our desire to see a vote taken on this matter I suggest that the Senate should reject the amendment moved by Senator Rae and the amendment proposed to be moved by Senator McManus in the event of Senator Rae’s amendment being defeated. [More…]
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When will candidates be informed of the actual method of marking ballot papers, thus enabling them to prepare how to vote material? [More…]
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The democratic concept that each person shall be entitled to a free and equal vote is denied by the operation of our electoral distribution laws. [More…]
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Part II of the Bill then proceeds to deal with a number of important rights, including the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion, the right to hold opinions without interference, the right to freedom of expression, the right to peaceful assembly, the right to freedom of association, the right, without unreasonable restrictions, to take part in the conduct of public affairs, vote at elections held by universal and equal suffrage and to hold public office, the right to liberty of movement, and the right to privacy. [More…]
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We now lodge our objection and our opposition to the amendment but knowing that the Country Party, the Democratic Labor Party and the Liberal Party will combine to vote against us I do not intend to divide the House. [More…]
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This being a consequential amendment, I again indicate the Government’s opposition to it; but, knowing that the combined Opposition in this chamber will vote against us, it is not my intention to call for a division on this amendment. [More…]
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But knowing that the Australian Democratic Labor Party has joined the Australian Country Party and the Liberal Party so that if the Opposition amendment were put to a vote it would be successful, I merely lodge my objection on behalf of the Government to the amendment proposed by Senator Rae. [More…]
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Having said that, I say that the Government strongly opposes the proposition put forward by Senator Rae on behalf of the Opposition; but, again, bearing in mind the vote that was taken on the last amendment and what is indicated as the attitude being adopted by the Democratic Labor Party we will not unnecessarily take up the time of the Committee by dividing. [More…]
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The results of elections show that people who have campaigned on the basis of this kind of division have received a contemptuous vote. [More…]
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However, bearing in mind that this matter comes within the overall functions of the Commission, we do not accept the proposition and intend to record our vote by way of voices against it. [More…]
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The amendment will change the requirement to consent by voters ‘in not less than one half of the States’. [More…]
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By the second, we aim to give a vote in referendums- I am a little with you, Mr President, in finding this a bit harsh on the ears but I think it is the way in which it has been chosen to refer to it in the Bill, although I have some regrets about it. [More…]
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As I was saying, by the second, we aim to give a vote in referendums to the people of our mainland territoriesthe Australian Capital Territory, including Jervis Bay, and the Northern Territory. [More…]
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If a clear majority of the electors who vote at a referendum are in favour of a proposed law, their will should not be frustrated because separate majorities of electors have not been obtained in a majority of the States. [More…]
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The Committee’s proposal would not disturb the Federal fabric of the Constitution, inherent in section 128, but its proposal would serve to lay more emphasis on Constitutional change by the democratic process of majority vote than there at present exists. [More…]
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This provision, in respect of the requirement to have ‘a majority of the States’ as one of the conditions for the passing of a referendum, does not, in our view, put the right emphasis and value on a national vote and imposes an undesirable rigidity on the system. [More…]
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We are one nation, we are one people, and on national issues it is desirable that the will of the nation should be determined more by the total vote of all the people entitled to vote than by State borders. [More…]
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By the new proposal, it will still be possible to obtain an amendment of the Constitution only if a majority of all the electors voting agree, but instead of requiring a majority of the States- which at present means 4 out of the 6 States, and thus a two-thirds majority- what we are proposing is that a majority of voters in not less than half of the States will be necessary, as well as an overall majority of voters. [More…]
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But the two-thirds majority is unreasonably high and, given that we have not gone beyond the original 6 States, means in the elegant words of the Constitution Review Committee that ‘for every State in which there is an adverse vote there must be a favourable vote in two states … a Constitutional change has to be supported not only by a majority of States but by two-thirds of the States. ‘ [More…]
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It is designed to remove the anomaly that Australian citizens in our mainland Territories have no voice or vote in constitutional referendums. [More…]
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There are 264,000 Australian citizens in the 2 Territories- the Australian Capital Territory, including Jervis Bay, and the Northern Territory- of whom 130,700 are voters. [More…]
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It is wrong that residents of the Territories should be denied a vote at referendums. [More…]
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They, too, are entitled to the vote. [More…]
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In this Bill we seek to delete from the Constitution that part of section 128 which limits voting at referendums to people qualified to vote ‘in each State’. [More…]
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If this proposal is carried, electors in the Territories will have the right to vote in all subsequent referendums. [More…]
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Another well known Aborigine from Queensland was referred to in an article in the Australian’ on 19 November 1973 under the big headlines: ‘Aboriginals refuse to vote in their own poll’. [More…]
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Many Aboriginals have refusedto enrol to vote in the National Aboriginal Consultative Committee elections to be held on Saturday. [More…]
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At that stage it had not reached a vote and had not received Cabinet approval. [More…]
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So instead of a situation developing which could have resulted in a head-on confrontation, behind the scenes or in committee prior to the United Nations General Assembly vote, both North Korea and [More…]
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Is the Minister for the Media aware that on the night of Friday, 16 November- that is, the day before the New South Wales State election- Channel 9 in Sydney on more than one occasion televised a short film showing a ballot box and a flag with the word ‘Liberal’ clearly marked on it and also showing the Premier, Sir Robert Askin, dropping a ballot paper into the ballot box while a voice reminded viewers to vote on the following day? [More…]
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-The position of the defence vote was such that it entailed some rethinking and some savings. [More…]
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That is consistent with the general planning of the defence vote. [More…]
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Suppose that there are 3,000 voters and suppose that 1,000 of those 3,000 vote ‘yes’. [More…]
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That would be the position on the supposed figures which I have put; that is, of the 3,000 voters only 1,000 vote ‘yes’ and 2,000 vote ‘no’- [More…]
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So, that question is restricted to those who vote no’ to the first question. [More…]
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Suppose that on this question relating to restricted export 700 vote ‘yes’ and 1,300 vote ‘no’. [More…]
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If the 2 questions are to be treated as they are printed - that is, individually- that means that both questions will be answered ‘no’ although, taking the 3,000 voters together, at least 1,700 of them will have voted ‘yes’ for restricted export. [More…]
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So, on my figures, only 2,000 are permitted to answer the second question and there is a minority vote on each question. [More…]
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Yet, if the questions were put, as they should be put, to the whole suffrage of 3,000 and if 1,000 vote in favour of unrestricted export and 700 vote in favour of restricted export, then, on a proper assessment of the vote, 1,700 out of 3,000 have voted ‘yes’ for restricted export. [More…]
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I ask the Minister- I have asked twice already for a ministerial interpretation of this matter- whether the yes votes on the first question are to be taken into account as yes on the second question, even though the ballot paper says that only no voters on the first are to vote on the second. [More…]
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Of course, the growers simply vote yes or no on that question. [More…]
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Those who vote no will have the opportunity to say whether they agree with unrestricted export. [More…]
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Of course, added to those growers who vote to permit the export of 300 rams must be those growers who voted for unrestricted export in the first part of the question. [More…]
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They are being denied the right to vote and therefore say that they are going to make improvements in the government. [More…]
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If there is no chance for people to vote in an election how do they change their government? [More…]
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The other thing I wish to say is that I am always pleased to vote for these measures but I always have a feeling of disappointment that every time they come up I can see no indication of any move in our universities to ensure that every student who has these advantages placed at his disposal will really be worthy of them or will really profit from them. [More…]
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I always have a feeling of uneasiness when I vote for these Bills. [More…]
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Senator Wright assured me that this does give expression to the voice of the Senate as indicated in the vote taken a few days ago when the Senate decided that the building should be sited on Capital Hill. [More…]
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I indicate firstly that no Liberal Party view will be expressed on this Bill and that there will be completely free vote. [More…]
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This matter, which is the determination of the site of the new and permanent parliament house, involves, as we have all said, a free vote. [More…]
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These clauses may even go beyond the decision by our Party to have a free vote. [More…]
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So that there will not have to be any difficulty, with great respect I ask Senator Wright, in the interests of the Senate and the Parliament, to agree that if this Bill goes to the second reading it not proceed in the Committee stage until we have had some time to see what this body of law is and how far it goes before we are required in any way to vote in the Committee stage. [More…]
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But already I can see that it is of the utmost significance and, as I am minded at the moment, if it went into Committee I would vote against clause 6 without any doubt whatever because I think it would be far too dangerous to pass the Bill with clause 6 in it. [More…]
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As I understand it, Senator Murphy does not intend to vote against the motion for the second reading. [More…]
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The Government does not accept the amendment and will vote against it. [More…]
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We spoke often of old times and it was one of my pleasures to vote for him on every occasion when he stood for the Council of the Australian National University and I was always delighted when he achieved election on those occasions. [More…]
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Is the Minister aware that the Queensland Premier, Mr Bjelke-Petersen, is squandering thousands of dollars of taxpayers’ money by using a State Government aircraft- the only one in Australiato tour Queensland advocating a ‘no’ vote in the forthcoming referendum? [More…]
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If, because of a reduced vote or for any other reason, an Army establishment was not required by the Army, then I could think of no better use for it than the housing of Aborigines who want homes. [More…]
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Therefore I propose to vote against the motion for the second reading when the vote is taken in the Senate. [More…]
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I am very pleased that it is the intention of the Opposition to vote against Part III of the Bill at least. [More…]
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For these reasons I propose to vote against the second reading of this Bill. [More…]
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I hope that he goes back and tells those people that he is not satisfied with the way they vote at State elections because he believes that the people who govern the various States are incapable of doing their job. [More…]
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I shall vote against this legislation. [More…]
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A large vote of the United Nations is attracted to this proposal. [More…]
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It is very interesting to note the way that this has come about and the attraction that a ‘yes’ vote must have for people at a time of great inflation; that if something can be done to eliminate price increases, then perhaps this power should be handed to the Federal Government. [More…]
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I am here in this States House as a States man and I will stand for the rights of the States in this matter and vote against this legislation. [More…]
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I find in section 128 of the Constitution a provision whereby the limits of any State cannot be altered except by an affirmative vote by a majority of States. [More…]
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I think that there is a very respectable view to justify that power and, insofar as it is in doubt, the proper authority to determine it is the High Court, Therefore, I shall vote for the second reading of the Bill to give enactment to Parts I and II. [More…]
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The Opposition is opposed to the retention of Part III in the Bill and will therefore vote against it. [More…]
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Can the Minister indicate whether it is true that the questions posed at the referendum were deliberately designed to achieve a ‘no’ vote? [More…]
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Is it also true to assume, as has been done by the Leader of the Country Party, that the result of the referendum cannot be regarded as indicative of the feelings of growers as only 47 per cent of those enrolled actually voted? [More…]
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-The result of the referendum shows that a little less than half of the wool growers eligible to vote availed themselves of the opportunity to vote, but of those who voted it was quite clear that a clear majority- 58 per cent- were opposed to the export of any merino rams. [More…]
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In fact, if my memory serves me correctly, I think the Country Party governs in Queensland with 1 7 or 1 8 per cent of the vote, which I assume Mr Anthony would argue is an indication of the rights of Queenslanders to have a Country Party Government. [More…]
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I believe that the vote for the Public Service is up 24 per cent. [More…]
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As a matter of fact, I was told that they would have had Piping Lane, the winner of the Melbourne Cup, on stage except that he was not old enough to vote. [More…]
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We have said that we will help the Prime Minister; we will vote so that his promise and the promise of Mr Beazley can be kept. [More…]
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Opposition senators have convenient memories, because 2 December when the people were asked to vote at an election was not so long ago. [More…]
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Yesterday in answer to a question which I put on notice he illustrated and affirmatively said that all these matters would be within the authority of the Canberra Parliament if the people could be pursuaded to vote ‘yes’ on the incomes referendum. [More…]
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So that the Senate may vote upon the subject, I move: [More…]
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With the concurrence of the Senate we will debate the Bills together and vote on them separately. [More…]
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Mr President, the Country Party will vote against the second reading of this Bill. [More…]
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For that reason I am surprised that the Liberal Party has declared its intention to vote for the second reading of this Bill. [More…]
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So, I merely say that the DLP will vote with the Country Party against the second reading of this Bill. [More…]
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The DLP will vote with the Country Party and we will not accept responsibility for the dangers contained in this Bill. [More…]
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It is probably as well that we put the motion that the Bill be now read a second time to the vote now and proceed with amendments in the Committee stages. [More…]
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You agreed with me then, but you did not have the courage to vote with me. [More…]
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Does this not indicate that the Prime Minister is deliberately asking the people to vote yes on the referenda issues without knowing what is involved? [More…]
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I have always maintained- I have always stood for this in Parliament, in my Party and elsewhere- that if I felt strongly about a thing I had the right to vote accordingly. [More…]
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If it is necessary to vote on this issue I will have no hesitation in voting according to what I think is right. [More…]
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They voted unanimously against the Federal Government. [More…]
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I emphasise that this motion was voted for by members of the Labor Party Government of South Australia in the House of Assembly and that they virtually expressed a vote of censure upon the actions of Mr Connor. [More…]
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There being no requests, I declare the vote passed. [More…]
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1 believe that we should be assured that that position is without concern, that it is completely a matter of integrity, before this vote should be passed by a parliamentary committee. [More…]
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There being no requests, I declare the vote passed. [More…]
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I must say that on my present information I will not vote, even if I remain alone in a division, for 6c to go to this turtle farm unless the Minister can give the Senate an undertaking that it will have a report before Christmas before any more money is misspent on the project. [More…]
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I am not prepared, notwithstanding the information given to the Committee, to acquiesce in a vote for $700,000 not exclusively for Applied Ecology Pty Ltd and not exclusively for that part of its activities relating to turtle farming. [More…]
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It is included in this Bill because it is the original vote for a special scheme. [More…]
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I believe the proper course now would be to put these Bills to the vote. [More…]
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The enrolment of voters is going on right now across the nation and in November, in each of 41 electoral areas, Aboriginal and Torres Strait Island people will vote to elect one representative to come to Canberra to consult with and advise the Minister. [More…]
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It should be noted also that Mr Odgers points out his book that a call of the Senate does not necessarily fulfil the objective for which it is made, in that there is no power to compel senators to vote. [More…]
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If we should fall victim to the myopia that seems to be clouding the outlook of the present Prime Minister (Mr Whitlam) and vote for a Bill that is designed to make the Senate the echo of a government party on the hustings every time an election is held for the House of Representatives, it would mean, I think, that we would be doing less than our duty. [More…]
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It was the votes of Senator Wood and the independent senator, voting with the then Opposition, which secured the establishment of those committees against the combined vote of those who are now praising them. [More…]
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They may listen to what has been put by Senator Wood, ibr example, and may choose to vote in favour of it. [More…]
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They ought not to be denied the opportunity to vote because this proposal is sent to a committee of the Senate. [More…]
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For years, this Parliament and the people of Australia have heard Labor champion the electoral principle of one vote one value. [More…]
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One major effect of such a change would be to take our electoral system further away from the one vote one value principle. [More…]
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What Labor wants is not equality or fair representation for the people, or one vote one value or whatever else it might like to call it. [More…]
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To prove my point that Labor argues one principle but adopts another, I shall give figures showing how the proposal in the Bill will take us further away from one vote one value. [More…]
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If the present proposal had applied at the time of the 1969 election, one vote in the electorate of Sydney would have been worth 1.7 votes in the electorate of Robertson, and one vote in the electorate of Melbourne would have been worth 1.77 votes in the electorate of Diamond Valley. [More…]
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The Australian Democratic Labor Party will vote against these Bills. [More…]
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But we believe it is worth while to vote against the Bills at the present time to highlight our opposition to what is an obvious attempt to gerrymander elections. [More…]
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What, for example is the worth of a Labor vote in Kooyong? [More…]
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The people of Kooyong who vote Labor have no representation. [More…]
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Contrarily, what is the worth of a Liberal vote in Gellibrand? [More…]
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On occasion we have obtained in elections 500,000 votes. [More…]
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Is there any provision in this Bill, by a Government which says that it wants electoral justice, to give the DLP with 500,000 votes any representation? [More…]
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So the position is that under the arrangement put forward by the Labor Party we would have certain electorates in which there would be inevitably far more adults who are entitled to vote than in other areas. [More…]
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The Government has now introduced this proposal which it says would give one vote one value. [More…]
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If the Labor Party believed in the principle of one vote one value it would introduce this principle in its own Party. [More…]
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In the proceedings which resulted in my leaving the Labor Party there was a vote in which the three small States and one delegate from a small State voted against us. [More…]
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The 2 States where all the population is- Victoria and New South Walesand one of Queensland voted for us. [More…]
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The representatives of the two bigger States and one of Queensland were defeated by 7 votes which came from the smaller States. [More…]
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What has the Labor Party done about representation in the Senate to bring in the principle of one vote one value? [More…]
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At that time I scored 2 10,000 votes. [More…]
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There were 10 senators in the Senate from Tasmania at that time who together represented 1 80,000 voters. [More…]
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I did not get a seat although I got 2 10,000 votes. [More…]
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But 10 senators with an average of 18,000 votes each got in for Tasmania. [More…]
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I said to Senator O ‘Byrne, who is a Tasmanian senator: ‘Do you agree, Senator O ‘Byrne, with a situation whereby 10 senators from Tasmania representing 180,000 voters were elected and I did not get a seat although I got 30,000 more votes than the 10 of them’. [More…]
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But Senator O ‘Byrne will vote for this Bill on the ground that he favours one vote one value. [More…]
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There is not one vote one value on the Federal Executive or the Conference of the Australian Labor Party; the States get equal representation. [More…]
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But why does not the Labor Party follow the principle of one vote one value in its own Party parliament? [More…]
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There is not one vote one value at the Australian Council of Trade Union conferences. [More…]
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One did not get one vote one value- this has been changed recently- on the Trades Hall Council in Melbourne. [More…]
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A big union of 70,000 to 80,000 members would get 4 votes and a union made up of 53 members would get one vote. [More…]
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Members of the Australian Labor Party do not believe in the principle of one vote one value, otherwise they would introduce it into the affairs of their own Party. [More…]
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If members of the Australian Labor Party really believed in the principle of one vote one value they would advocate the system of election which gives the nearest approximation to the principle of one vote one value, that is, the HareClark system. [More…]
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A committee of the Victorian branch of the Australian Labor Party, led by the late Senator Sam Cohen, Mr Gordon Bryant and other leading personalities of the branch, was asked to sit down and determine the system which in its opinion would give electoral justice and would ensure that if the Australian Labor Party ever received 50 per cent of the votes it would be in government. [More…]
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He went on to cite as an example 6 blue ribbon seats- 3 blue ribbon Liberal seats and 3 blue ribbon Labor seats- and said that if they were assessed on a population basis only 59 per cent of the people would vote in the blue ribbon Liberal seat of Bradfield, 44 per cent in the blue ribbon Labor seat of Grayndler, 46 per cent in the blue ribbon Labor seat of Sydney, 62 per cent in the blue ribbon Liberal seat of Warringah, 59 per cent in the blue ribbon Liberal seat of Wentworth and 43 per cent in the blue ribbon Labor seat of Werriwa. [More…]
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That is the direct opposite of the proposition that we heard so much about some time ago of one vote one value. [More…]
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It relieves me entirely of any need to refer to this swindle that the Bill proposes, switching from a creed of one vote one value to the idea of the number of people. [More…]
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The Liberal Party will vote against this Bill. [More…]
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It will vote against the Bill because it is unnecessary, because it is a further erosion of the Constitution and because it is an underhand way of grabbing powers from the States to centralise arbitrary power in Canberra. [More…]
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vote to prevent the people considering the question whether the people’s own Constitution should be amended in a particular way, that way being to enable the Commonwealth to borrow money for and to grant financial assistance to local government bodies. [More…]
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On 1 1 October, the heads of Government met in Canberra to consider the Australian Government’s proposals that there be a voice and vote for elected local government representatives on the Loan Council, and that the Australian Government should be empowered to borrow on behalf of local governments. [More…]
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It is extraordinary, with all that is said by senators opposite about local government, that now, when local government wants something and when the Australian Government thinks it should be able to borrow on behalf of local government and to grant financial assistance to local government, the Opposition Parties should indicate that they are prepared to prevent the people of Australia having a vote to say whether the Parliament should be empowered to do what I have outlined. [More…]
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If honourable senators opposite face up to the matter, the brutal truth is that they are opposing the wishes of the Australian Government and the House of Representatives to let the Australian people exercise their right under the Constitution to vote on whether the constitution should be changed in this way. [More…]
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However, the Senate is taking the stand here that it will not allow the people even to vote on the matter. [More…]
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To facilitate alterations to the Constitution and to allow Electors in Territories, as well as Electors in the States, to vote at Referendums on Proposed Laws to alter the Constitution. [More…]
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At present section 128 of the Constitution requires a majority of the States to vote for a proposal. [More…]
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Clause 2 (a) of this Bill proposes to alter section 128 of the Constitution to allow qualified electors in the Territories to vote. [More…]
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As I have indicated, it is our intention to move to amend the long title of this Bill so that it clearly states the major intention of the Bill- that is to allow electors in the territories to vote at a referendum. [More…]
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The Opposition hopes that the Government will accept our amendments so that the proposal for giving electors in the territories the right to vote at referenda may be put to the Australian people with the support of the Australian Parliament. [More…]
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-The Australian Country Party agrees with the provision of this Bill that will give electors in the Australian Capital Territory and the Northern Territory the right to vote on proposals to alter the Constitution. [More…]
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The Bill we have before us does not permit us to vote for one proposal and not the other. [More…]
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We must vote for both or neither. [More…]
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To facilitate alterations to the Constitution and to allow Electors in Territories, as well as Electors in the States, to vote at Referendums on Proposed Laws to alter the Constitution. [More…]
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It would mean that, if a majority of the people- we wish to extend that from a majority of the people in the States to a majority of the whole of the people of Australia, whether in the Territories or in the States- were in favour of a proposal and at least half of the States were to vote for the proposal, the constitutional referendum would be taken to be approved. [More…]
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While it would still relate to the extension of a vote to the people of the Territories as well as the States, the Bill would not provide a facilitation for alterations to the Constitution. [More…]
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When the motion for the dismissal of Dr Bustard was moved, 3 directors voted for it. [More…]
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The 2 departmental officers did not vote against the proposition; in fact they abstained. [More…]
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The 2 departmental directors on the Board refused to vote because they were carrying out the wish of the Minister. [More…]
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I think the proper thing to do is to put it to a vote. [More…]
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The Liberal Party Opposition, for the reasons which I have stated, does not propose to accede to the suggestion made by the Minister and will vote against his motion. [More…]
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I did not intend to come into the chamber and cast a vote with regard to any of these amendments, because all I was interested in was to see the Commission operating. [More…]
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It really does not matter which way the vote goes on some of these amendments, as they are just pin-pricking matters. [More…]
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I do not see any commonsense or justice in a proposal that we shall be forced to vote for a commission with which we disagree when at the very time the Government has the power in its hands to do the whole thing itself. [More…]
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The Opposition will vote for the second reading of this Bill. [More…]
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I remind you, Mr President, and I remind honourable senators that in the House of Representatives the Opposition voted for the second reading of the Bill. [More…]
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Now that we are in Opposition we will vote for this Bill which will provide extra money for these schools. [More…]
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We voted for it in the House of Representatives. [More…]
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We will vote for it in this chamber. [More…]
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My Party has been prepared to vote and will vote to give every cent proposed to be given by the Government to the schools to which it says it will give the money. [More…]
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We have not advocated the taking of one cent; we will vote for every cent to be given to those schools. [More…]
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All we have said is: ‘Give them the lot and we will vote for it. [More…]
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Some parents who have children attending what they regard as deprived schoolssome of these are religious schools- have said to me: ‘Look, we are going to get more money; you ought to vote for this ‘. [More…]
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We have said that we will vote to give them every penny the Government proposes to give them. [More…]
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All we ask of the Government is this: Having made a promise before the election and received thousands of votes because of that promise, it should keep its promise and give to the small number of A class schools that are left the basic per capita grants which Mr Whitlam and Mr Beazley pledged themselves as honourable men to give. [More…]
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This principle was put to the people in the plainest of language last November and they determined it by popular vote on 2 December. [More…]
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That, surely, really outlines the difference in philosophy between us on the Government side- those of us who have been elected by popular vote to implement the policy that the Prime Minister espoused at the last electionand them, the collective Opposition. [More…]
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The purpose of the amendment is this: We say that we will vote for every cent of the money which the Commonwealth under the Karmel Committee report said it would give to all schools except those grouped in category A. [More…]
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By saying that we will vote for all that money we disprove the unscrupulous propaganda used by the Government in the Press and the media to the effect that what we wanted to do was take money from the poorer schools and give it to the wealthy independent schools. [More…]
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All we said- this is what we say tonight- is that we will vote for every cent that the Government wants to give to the state schools and the poorer schools. [More…]
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We are saying that we will vote for the sum of almost $500m that the Government proposes to give to the other schools, but as the Government promised to maintain the per capita grants, why does it not maintain them at that level by increasing them by approximately $8m, as the Government says, or $5m, as we say? [More…]
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The Opposition has, by its vote tonight and by the words spoken by all its spokesmen, shown that there is basically no disagreement with the basis of the Karmel Committee’s approach and with the amounts of money which have been recommended should be expended and for which provision is contained in this Bill. [More…]
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It was only by, I think, one vote that Mr Calwell secured the numbers for Mr Whitlam at the Labor Party’s conference in 1967. [More…]
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Is it not a fact that the Broadcasting and Television Act does not prevent the broadcasting of referendum propaganda even on the day of taking the vote? [More…]
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So I suggest that we take a vote on the question that the Bill be read a second time. [More…]
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Did the Prime Minister attend at a polling booth in Sydney on Saturday to vote at the referendum? [More…]
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Was he informed then that a postal vote had been lodged in his name? [More…]
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If the answer to the second question is yes, can the Senate in due course be informed who signed the papers to get the postal vote ballot paper and who completed it on behalf of the Prime Minister? [More…]
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Motions that the question be now put and that the Chairman do report progress and ask leave to sit again and that the Chairman do now leave the Chair shall be moved without discussion and be immediately put and determined, provided that a vote on the question that the question be now put shall require at least 2 1 affirmative votes. [More…]
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It is for that reason that I think we should continue to debate the amendments moved by Senator Bishop and put them to the vote. [More…]
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I intend to devote my time in this debate to discussing the continuing and ever increasing interference with Government legislation in this chamber. [More…]
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It is worth looking at what happened on 2 December when the Australian Labor Party, for the first time in 23 years, received 49.5 per cent of the vote, compared with the very poor showing of the Opposition parties. [More…]
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The Liberal Party received only 32 per cent of the vote, the Country Party 9.4 per cent and the Democratic Labor Party 5.25 per cent. [More…]
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He was referring to the Senate which was elected in 1967- the Government will not have a majority in its own right, though it was, little more than a year ago, given by popular vote, a very large majority in the House of Representatives; a majority which, in the normal course, it will continue to have for the better part of the next 2 years. [More…]
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Nobody goes to vote for a candidate at an election in any electorate saying: I will vote No. [More…]
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It is quite factual that great notice is not taken by the people of many of the points in the policy and they are not in their minds when they go to vote. [More…]
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Whenever I thought something was wrong I was prepared to vote against it. [More…]
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If the Labor Caucus can make this change in this democratic way, there is no reason why this Senate, which is duly elected by the people of this country- by the same people who vote for the other House- cannot, in the same democratic way as Caucus, change the decision of the Ministers. [More…]
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He said that some money was to be spent from the Department of Secondary Industry vote on the Albury-Wodonga area. [More…]
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I rise to indicate that the Australian Democratic Labor Party will vote for the Bills now before the Senate and to say that I, like Senator Jessop, today received a deputation from the AlburyWodonga Growth Centre Land Owners Association. [More…]
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Will he make inquiries, and advise the Senate when the information is available, as to whether it is true, as indicated in the Launceston ‘Examiner’ of Monday, 19 November, that the Prime Minister travelled, presumably by Royal Australian Air Force V.I.P aircraft, on Saturday, 17 November, from Adelaide to Sydney to record his vote at the State election and continued to Launceston, arriving one hour late for his appointment at an agricultural show? [More…]
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Are not postal votes available to New South Wales electors who wake up in time? [More…]
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Like most honourable members I regard it as my obligation to vote in person and to visit polling places at elections in my own electorate. [More…]
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We are being asked to vote for legislation which creates a Schools Commission, which will be one of the most important statutory bodies to exist in this country, but the legislation provides that the Commission should not be obliged to report to the Parliament. [More…]
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I understand that we will not be successful in this regard because the Country Party will vote with the Government on this matter. [More…]
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I do not intend to vote against the clause. [More…]
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It ran a vote on the national health scheme. [More…]
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That vote sought an indication of whether people favoured the compulsory national health insurance scheme proposed by the Government or whether they favoured the existing voluntary health insurance scheme with minor improvements. [More…]
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The result was that 8 people voted for the Government’s health scheme, and 185 people voted against it. [More…]
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The Opposition opposes the legislation and will vote against it because we believe that it will lower the quality of medical care for Australian families; that it will increase the total costs for the Government and thus the taxpayers; that it will increase total costs for the majority of taxpayers because they can maintain the present quality of their health care only by additional heavy commitments for private insurance; that it will reduce the freedom of choice; that it will jeopardise the future of religious, private and country hospitals; and by design and intent it will be the first stage of nationalisation of health and medical care in Australia. [More…]
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I ask him and his colleagues now to join with us in the Labor Party and when the vote is taken on this matter let us introduce a modern system. [More…]
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The honourable senator must not reflect on the vote of the Senate. [More…]
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Because it is the Government’s desire to secure a vote tonight on these measures I do not intend to reply at length to the many points that have been made during the evening’s discussion. [More…]
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I ask them to give me 10 minutes to wind up this debate so that we can take a vote on the Bills tonight. [More…]
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They were shameful and unacceptable and that is why both Houses of Parliament voted against them, and to replace those discriminations with the present law. [More…]
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If the honourable senator has any dissenting views in favour of discrimination then it should be recognisefVhe is out of step with our time and that the attitude of the House of Representatives and the Senate as expressed in their vote on these matters. [More…]
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Is it not a fact that the vast majority of British subjects in Australia have rights under the Electoral Act to be enrolled- in fact, an obligation to be enrolled- and to vote at elections for this Parliament? [More…]
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A person coming here from the British Isles must be here for a period of 6 months before becoming eligible to vote. [More…]
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I think it is common knowledge that once a person who is eligible to vote enrols on the electoral roll then in this country it is compulsory for that person to vote. [More…]
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The Bill is a Government Bill only to the extent of facilitating its being debated and put to a vote, but the Government supports the reform of the law and administration of divorce, custody and other family matters in the light of modern standards and sociology and especially so as to remove oppressive costs, delays, indignities and other injustices. [More…]
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All members of the Australian Labor Party will have a free vote on this Bill. [More…]
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As our vote in this chamber could be of some decisiveness, we feel that we have a heavy responsibility to ensure that this Bill is properly studied by us. [More…]
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Honourable senators are entitled to vote as their conscience dictates. [More…]
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One is sent here to vote and one ought to accept one’s responsibility right to the ultimate of even setting one’s own salary. [More…]
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We could then simply vote on the amendment. [More…]
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As I understand it, the Senate agreed to its being excised, and ordinarily it would require a separate vote. [More…]
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Ballot papers will be distributed to honourable senators, each of whom is requested to write upon the paper the name of the candidate for whom he or she desires to vote. [More…]
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That, in the event of an equality of voting, the Chairman, or the Deputy-Chairman when acting as Chairman, shall have a casting vote. [More…]
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The British Labour Party at a dinner to Khruschev protested so strongly at the denial of human rights in the Soviet implemented by the KGB that Khruschev said that if he had a vote in a British election he would vote Conservative. [More…]
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If a secret ballot were conducted amongst the members of his own Party he would not receive one vote for anything he has said. [More…]
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After all, despite our repeated suggestions to the Prime Minister over the past months that he should test his alleged mandate by putting it to the vote, despite our willingness to facilitate this course and despite the ability to hold a double dissolution, the fact remains that we have lived with this dire threat since the day the Prime Minister took office. [More…]
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A few hours are allocated for debate and when after only a few clauses have been debated and time is up, the rest of the legislation is passed on one vote without proper or adequate examination. [More…]
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It cannot force through hastilyconceived and ill-conceived legislation purely on a numbers vote. [More…]
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I would have thought that all the keen supporters of the Labor Party would have been sitting anxiously in their seats before the guillotine fell so that they could vote to bring about the new Utopia. [More…]
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We will divide the Senate, and we will vote on the motion. [More…]
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I want it to be understood by the country that the Senate stands by the Constitution, from the point of view of presenting alterations to the Constitution for the people’s vote. [More…]
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If they are confused they will vote against the referenda. [More…]
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The Bill is designed to enable the people to vote on whether they will have an alteration of their own Constitution to provide for democratic elections for the House of Representatives and democratic elections for each House of Parliament of the States. [More…]
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The proposal is to let the people vote on whether they will alter the Constitution in that way. [More…]
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The proposal may or may not be acceptable, but the Government of this country wants the people to have the opportunity to vote so that they may decide. [More…]
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Let us sweep aside this nonsense and farce and say that we will reject it and that we are not prepared even to let the people have a vote on the measure’. [More…]
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The House of Representatives and the Government of this nation are going to see to it that the people have a chance to vote. [More…]
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Any man who opposes or endeavours to delay and obstruct the people having a vote on their own Constitution cannot pretend to call himself democratic. [More…]
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Even if honourable senators opposite were to vote in favour of it tonight their action would have no effect except to enable the people of Australia to vote on the matter to which it refers. [More…]
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The members of the Opposition are going to vote against this Bill- they are going to endeavour to manoeuvre for its rejection- but the people are still going to have a say on it despite what is done. [More…]
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I suppose you could not get much lower than to have a chamber refusing a vote to the people. [More…]
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It was obvious that we should get to a vote on a measure which the Opposition Parties were determined to reject. [More…]
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The measure was simply to put to the people of Australia the question whether they wanted to vote to alter their own Constitution to enable the Federal Parliament to provide finance directly to local government. [More…]
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But the proposition was simply to let the people vote on whether they should enable the Australian Parliament to do this- and it was rejected. [More…]
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I suppose you will try to delay it or in some way try to cover up the fact that you want to deny the people of Australia a vote on the proposition so that in their wisdom or unwisdom, whatever it may be, they can decide how they want to shape their Constitution. [More…]
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The only issue to be debated is what kind of manoeuvre you can put up to cover up the fact that you do not want to vote to let the people decide this issue. [More…]
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I defy any honourable senator opposite to say that there is any notion, any possibility, that he would change his mind and vote now for a measure which he rejected on 4 December last. [More…]
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In this instance what the Government has made up its mind to do is to let the people vote on this issue. [More…]
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The proposal now is that the Constitution be altered to enable that to be done if the people vote for it. [More…]
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That proposal was rejected in the Senate on 4 December by the vote of the Opposition parties. [More…]
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There has to be time after the election and before 30 June to enable votes to be counted and matters to be sorted out. [More…]
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It intends to refuse, if it can, to let the people have a vote but it is not going to succeed because the Constitution provides for the people to have a say even though there is a majority of senators here who try to prevent their having a say in the alteration of their own Constitution. [More…]
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Is it to be adjourning the matter and not having a vote on a measure that has been debated already? [More…]
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That is our record, but we think it is reasonable to ask the Government to give to us what it is not prepared to give except by a vote of this chamber, that is, a week in which to have the matters studied. [More…]
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He will accept here the will of the people expressed by the majority vote of this chamber by the elected representatives of the people. [More…]
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I know the view that is expressed by many of the Government’s Party officials,’ supporters, members of Parliament and leading people about what the people will say when they receive these propositions presented in conjunction with the confusion of a huge Senate ticket, as will be the case in many States where the people might have to vote for up to 40 or 45 positions on the ballot paper. [More…]
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When there are signs that a government will take the bit in its teeth and force its views- its minority views- on the majority in this chamber by threats, by bludgeon tactics or by any other method, the Australian Democratic Labor Party in this corner knows where its vote has always been cast in the past with the approval of the people. [More…]
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That is where its vote will be cast on this occasion. [More…]
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For those reasons the Liberal Party will vote against the motion for the second reading of the Bill. [More…]
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According to the record the Senate had got past dealing with this Bill and was already dealing with another measure at 5.50 p.m. That included the time taken up by the vote. [More…]
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The Government has said: ‘Let us have your vote on this matter. [More…]
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We could have had a vote on this Bill tonight. [More…]
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Senator Drake-Brockman, I think it was, referred to the promise which the Government had given to the people that they would be given the chance to vote on these measures. [More…]
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The Opposition Parties refused, but now they come forward with this nonsense: ‘Oh, we have not made up our minds; we want to go off and consider our arguments; what we would like to do is find some reason to justify the action that we took on the last occasion of refusing to allow the people to vote on a very simple but very important proposition’. [More…]
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The right of every Australian citizen to vote at a National Referendum or Senate or Federal Elections for the retention of our present Australian Flag and equally of our national anthem, ‘God Save The Queen’, before any government or other body can attempt to substitute either a new flag or anthem, and a similar voting right for the choice of any official National Song to play on international occasions. [More…]
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It is all very well for well informed people like Senator McAuliffe, Senator Mulvihill and others to be quite happy about this matter but how am I, when so frequently I am not even informed of these matters of high public moment, to know how to vote or of the way in which we should act in order to fall in with Senator Murphy’s requirements as to time when he knows the date of the election and I do not? [More…]
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I heard Senator Greenwood, who led for the Opposition, say that as the position stood the Opposition would be inclined to vote for the motion. [More…]
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I hope that, having examined these principles, they will determine that this is a better manner in which to deal with the situation and that they will vote for our amendment. [More…]
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I would like to see a conscience vote in the ranks of the Australian Labor Party on this proposal which could affect the tenure of office of a number of them. [More…]
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I would love to see a conscience vote on the Government side but, of course, in this case honourable senators have to do what they are told. [More…]
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If he is so confident that the people of Australia will not stomach this proposal, let him cross the floor and vote with us. [More…]
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Greenwood were so anxious to let the people of Australia express their opinion he would also be anxious to have them vote on this matter. [More…]
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I believe that their vote is not cast as responsibly as when they are electing a government. [More…]
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I believe that a vote cast in that mood is not a responsible vote. [More…]
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I believe that a vote cast in the atmosphere of a by-election is not a vote which is cast as sensibly as one with which the people elect a government. [More…]
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I suppose that if there is one way for the Government to lose a vote it is by putting forward Senator James McClelland to speak on the matter. [More…]
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The fact that the Prime Minister wants arbitrary power came out when Senator James McClelland said that the Prime Minister would decide on what matters the people should be allowed to vote. [More…]
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Section 128 of the Constitution says that the people will be allowed to vote on matters which have passed each chamber twice. [More…]
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Every elector is obliged to vote at such an election. [More…]
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I shall vote against the proposal to present this question to the people. [More…]
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If further steps are taken and the question is put to the people, which is a course that the Government can follow, I certainly will do all I can to encourage the Australian people to vote no in the referendum. [More…]
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There the Premier is leading the State with 19 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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1 per cent of the vote and we have been getting that for I do not know how many years. [More…]
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We have a majority vote at all times. [More…]
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All that is required is the demonstration by its vote of the Opposition’s rejection again of the Bills, but all we have had is palaver about the Opposition wanting time in which to make up its mind and to consider the Bills and so forth. [More…]
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We have to realise that the people are entitled to be informed before the referendum as to what are the implications of the vote that they are being asked to cast one way or the other. [More…]
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As the members of the Australian Labor Party are sensitive and as the Minister for Primary Industry, Senator Wriedt, is one of those Jekyll and Hyde characters who somehow or other vote for the Labor Party’s policies in Cabinet and Caucus and then goes outside and says: ‘You must not blame me; it is them. [More…]
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Where is there any talk about one vote one value? [More…]
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The only person who has a view on the subject of one vote one value is the Minister for Services and Property, Mr Daly, who wants one vote in his electorate to have 2 values. [More…]
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He knows that if he can get the referendum proposal through on a population and not number of electors basis he will have a situation where one vote has 2 values because one-third of the people of his electorate are electors and twothirds are migrants. [More…]
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A census is being taken now about a proposed new national anthem and the Government very cleverly left out the existing national anthem from the list of possibilities because it would seem from public opinion polls taken throughout Australia that the present national anthem would win about 70 per cent of the popular vote if included in the contest. [More…]
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In the last week honourable senators have referred to the overwhelming vote in Western Australia in the 1 930s. [More…]
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In the referendum held last December Western Australians voted overwhelmingly in favour of federation, although they may not have been aware of it. [More…]
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I interpret the vote as a vote of confidence in the federation, although Western Australians did not really know what they were voting for in that respect. [More…]
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We intend to vote against this Bill. [More…]
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It is for this reason that we will vote against the Bill. [More…]
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I do not believe that the people of Australia ought to be asked to vote upon a matter of this substance without their having a proper opportunity to realise the implications contained in this referendum proposal. [More…]
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Without the detail that would have been forthcoming from such an examination, and as we cannot make a proper assessment without that committee’s examination, we must vote against the Bill. [More…]
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We, in the Liberal Party, will vote against the second reading of the Bill. [More…]
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To be consistent, we should vote again for its referral to a committee to ensure that the committee did the job which it was asked to do, and that is to examine all the ramifications of the proposition which it to be placed before the people as an alteration to the Constitution. [More…]
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We think they are wrong, that they are doing it the wrong way and we will not vote that way. [More…]
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We will vote to prevent this proposition passing the Senate. [More…]
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They certainly would not vote for the abolition of the Senate. [More…]
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The Prime Minister decided in a great flurry that he would hold a referendum on 2 particularly attractive and important matters that would attract some people to vote for them. [More…]
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Just over a year ago the people gave to Mr Whitlam and his Party by democratic vote a mandate to govern responsibly. [More…]
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If an election is held in May this year the average citizen in Victoria, for example, will be asked to look at the names of fifteen or sixteen Senate candidates and at the same time cast a responsible vote on another five or six constitutional matters. [More…]
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They come under the Caucus vote of a majority. [More…]
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Let us acknowledge now that in our electoral system the greater the opportunity which is provided for people to vote and to express judgments on issues, the greater satisfaction there will be in our electoral processes and in our whole system of government. [More…]
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I know that there is a tediousness, a tiresomeness and a sense of futility occasionally expressed when people must vote. [More…]
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Whether the people want to vote for or against the proposals, the Government said to them: ‘We undertake as part of the program upon which we ask you to vote for us that we will put to you certain proposals so that you may decide whether you want to alter your Constitution’. [More…]
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Any man who votes against allowing the people to vote on the proposition which the elected Government wishes to put to them can hardly claim to be a democrat. [More…]
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They are in opposition not only to the Government; they are also in opposition to the people of Australia when they want to deny them an opportunity to vote on their own Constitution. [More…]
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Whatever the transitory position may be in the Senate I ask honourable senators, if there is any decency left in them, to vote for this proposition. [More…]
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For example, we heard during the course of the last debate- and I do not desire to transgress the Standing Orders by referring to it- that the Opposition was denying to the people of Australia the chance to vote upon these referendum proposals by advancing an argument against them in this chamber. [More…]
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So in this chamber, when we hear from no less a person than the Attorney-General (Senator Murphy) that the Opposition is seeking to deny to the people of Australia an opportunity to vote on this matter, by simply voting and arguing against it, he is denying that which he should know and, I believe, that which he does know, and that is that there is a right to put this question to the people irrespective of how the vote ensues in this chamber. [More…]
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We shall vote against this proposal on this occasion. [More…]
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We will vote against it because it is one of those devices for which this Government is becoming quite infamous. [More…]
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We know from statements which the Prime Minister has made over the years, such as the statement, emanating from 1957, in which he said that members of the State Parliament had an obligation and that obligation was to vote themselves out of power, that what he is looking for is the centralised control from Canberra. [More…]
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If we are to let this country develop in the future on a basis that Canberra will determineas the Labor Party wants Canberra to determine- what will be the facilities available in local areas right throughout the land, let us vote for this proposal which is now being considered in the Senate. [More…]
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But if we believe that wherever communities exist they ought to have a voice to say what they want in their own area, and that if they are not given what they want from their representatives in the area they can vote them out and put in a different group of local representatives, we will vote against this proposal and, believe me, we will keep a Liberal Government in power in Australia. [More…]
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If this question should go to the people of this country I hope that the vote will put an end to such nonsensical proposals in the future. [More…]
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The fact is that it does not matter whether we debate them because the temporary majority that exists in this chamber has already made up its mind that it is going to deny to the people of Australia the opportunity of expressing an opinion on matters that were clearly placed before them and supported by their majority vote in 1 972. [More…]
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It is before this obstructionist House for the second time because the Opposition has taken the view that we are not entitled to present this question properly to the Australian people for them to vote on the matter. [More…]
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-Before I address myself to the provisions of the Bill before the Senate, I should like to say that I am grateful to Senator Gietzelt for having corrected some of his colleagues who expressed the view that what the Opposition was trying to do was to prevent the people of Australia from exercising their vote on this matter. [More…]
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One was that elected local government should have both a voice and a vote in the Loan Council. [More…]
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I will vote against this legislation not because I wish to deny to the people of Australia the right to decide on the issue involved but because I want to make it clear that I am not giving the seal of approval to the Government to bring in legislation, no matter how it is presented and for what motives it is presented, that will further diminish the powers and responsibilities of the State governments. [More…]
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Therefore I do not believe in troubling the people of Australia to vote when there is no necessity to do so. [More…]
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They will have to be very brief because it is desired to put the matter to a vote before 1 1 o’clock. [More…]
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It is a referendum Bill and of course this is a vote on whether we favour the question going to the people. [More…]
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Honourable senators opposite may vote against it, possibly for the reasons which Senator Wood has just given. [More…]
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It does not need a referendum but a vote of the Parliament to remove it. [More…]
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in reply- Now that we are about to vote on the Bill I suppose the great questions which surround this issue have become crystallised. [More…]
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I am pleased that the Senate has been prepared to bring the matter to a vote instead of delaying it further. [More…]
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It wants to ask them to vote on a matter to enable the Australian Parliament to provide finance for local government. [More…]
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We have reached the extraordinary position where some Opposition senators will defy the Government in its endeavours to ask the people to vote on whether they want the Australian Parliament to be able to provide finance. [More…]
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It wants to put to the people a vote on whether the Australian Parliament can directly finance local government’. [More…]
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If an Australian Government elected by the people wishes to put a proposition to the people to vote to change their Constitution, will any person in this Parliament deny the right of the Australian Government to go to its own people and say: ‘We ask you to change your own Constitution and we want you to vote in a free and regular election on whether you choose to change your own Constitution’? [More…]
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We will go out and we will ask the Australian people to vote against them because we do not agree with them, but never would we deny the right of a government elected by the people to go to its own people and say ‘We, the Government of Australia, ask you to vote to change your Constitution in such and such a manner’. [More…]
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Yes, the over-reaching of a temporary majority in this place which dares to intervene between the Government elected by the people and the people themselves when the Government simply desires to seek their vote on whether they would change their own Constitution. [More…]
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But somehow the Australian Government thinks, the Prime Minister thinks and we think that it is not wrong for us to consult the people and simply to put to them a vote. [More…]
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Honourable senators of the Opposition arrogate to themselves a right to vote against this Bill. [More…]
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It is a position which demands that our Party give the maximum consideration to the legislation which comes before the chamber because in so many cases our vote can be decisive. [More…]
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in reply- May I say shortly that the Government adheres to its view and therefore will vote against the proposition to leave out the words in my motion which define the hours. [More…]
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One provision is to give electors in the Australian Capital Territory and the Northern Territory the right to vote at referenda. [More…]
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To facilitate alterations to the Constitution and to allow Electors in Territories, as well as Electors in the States, to vote at referendums - [More…]
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It has lumped these 2 proposals together either because it does not really want those living in the Northern Territory and the Australian Capital Territory to be given a vote on proposals to alter the Constitution, or because it is hoping to float through its proposals to simplify altering the Constitution on a wave of sympathy for the electors in the Territories. [More…]
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Is it just that residents in the Australian Capital Territory and the Northern Territory should be denied their right to vote on referenda because the ALP will insist on this conglomerate Bill? [More…]
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When this Bill came before the Senate last December the Opposition insisted upon an amendment to the long title so that it would be clear that the major intention was to allow electors in the mainland Territories to vote at a referendum. [More…]
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The Government subsequently disallowed the amendment in the House of Representatives and by so doing telegraphed to the Australian people that a vote to the Territories was merely chocolate coating on a bitter pill. [More…]
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So, in an attempt to overcome what it fears will be a no vote by the people, it seeks to change the longstanding method by which alterations to the Constitution can be effected. [More…]
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The reaction of the majority of Australian voters when they vote at the referendum is very likely to be one of annoyance at a government which has virtually prevented them approving referenda voting by electors in the Territories. [More…]
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Insofar as the Constitution is a solemn compact, a solemn contract, in which the States have this most important role, it seems to me to be basic logic that if that instrument is to be subject to change and if the States are to have a continuance of their primary significance there must be an overwhelming vote by the States as such for or against any alteration to the compact of federation, the Constitution itself. [More…]
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It would appear to me to be a departure that if we are not going to insist upon a vote by the majority of States to vary the Constitution but enable the referendum to be passed on an equality of State votes, together with a majority of the aggregate of the people ‘s votes it will be, to use my original term, a misconception of the very nature of the compact of federation. [More…]
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We support that concept which would give all Territorians the right to vote on propositions altering the Constitution because, after all, variations in the Constitution are matters of great concern to them. [More…]
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Questions arising in the Senate shall be determined by a majority of votes, and each senator shall have one vote . [More…]
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Questions arising in the Senate shall be determined by a majority or votes, and each senator shall have one vote . [More…]
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First of all, attention has been called to section 23, which we have debated previously; but in accordance with rulings which prevail in this chamber, a decision as to the passage of a Bill or- let me be more precise- a decision on a question arising in this Senate shall be determined by a majority of votes, each senator having one vote. [More…]
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The question you put, Mr President, was resolved in the affirmative, but since that affirmative vote did not carry an absolute majority of the Senate you should declare that the Bill is forthwith laid aside and that it will not be revived. [More…]
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That of course is the traditional concept of one vote one value. [More…]
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The Opposition parties have always maintained the principle of one vote one value but in a practical sense so that you can have a period of, say, 10 years within which you will have a rough equality throughout that period and not require a census and a redistribution every 3 years. [More…]
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The point I make is that the 1973 Bill was a Bill which sought to maintain the principle of one vote one value. [More…]
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The principle of one vote one value must be established as the fundamental objective of redistribution. [More…]
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We intend to amend the law so that, as far as may be practicable, the value of the vote of one citizen shall be equivalent to the vote of another. [More…]
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We do not accept the proposition that the relative value of a person’s vote should depend upon his geographical location. [More…]
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The changes proposed by this Bill will give some meaning to the principle of one vote one value . [More…]
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Every worthwhile authority supports the case for one vote one value, and equality of electorates. [More…]
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The vote of one person, whatever his occupation or location, should be as good as the vote of the other. [More…]
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If there are migrants who are not able to vote, if there are children who are not able to vote and if there are Aborigines who have not yet enrolled, those people will comprise part of the population- the non-voting population- yet they will be the persons who will be counted in determining the equality of electorates. [More…]
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When one considers the protestations of one vote one value on earlier occasions and contrast those protestations with what is now proposed it is a fair thing to say that there is no means too base which this Government is not prepared to use to mislead the people of this country to secure the results which will perpetuate it in office. [More…]
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This Government is so determined to execute a fix of the electoral system to help it remain in office after 23 years in the political wilderness that it has brought forward a proposition that is in direct contradiction of the one vote one value policy to which Senator Greenwood referred. [More…]
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It will come as no great surprise to them that Labor has abandoned its one vote one value policy. [More…]
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It is worth repeating that he said that the Bill we are now discussing would result in the greatest departure from the principle of one vote one value ever seen in the history of Australian House of Representatives elections. [More…]
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He cited figures, as others have done, showing the wide variations there would be in the percentages of voters in the electorates if the boundaries were to be determined on a population basis. [More…]
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The slogan of one vote one value was first mooted when today’s Government was very much rapt in the idea that first past the post voting was one vote one value and democratic. [More…]
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At that time Labor endeavoured to argue that preferential voting, which has served Australia very well, meant that people had 2 votes. [More…]
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They argued that under preferential voting a person virtually had 2 votes. [More…]
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The democratic principle is embodied in the fact that people vote preferentially and mark more than one number on a ballot paper. [More…]
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That does not necessarily mean that they vote twice or that they are having more than one vote. [More…]
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It means that the people resolve the difference between the 2 candidates who are left when those candidates who obtained a smaller number of votes have been eliminated. [More…]
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In the recent elections in Great Britain a government was elected with about 37 per cent of the total community vote. [More…]
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An analysis of the British figures shows that Labour polled 37.2 per cent of the votes. [More…]
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The Liberal Party in England polled 1 9.3 per cent of the votes. [More…]
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So the difference between 19 percent and 37 percent is the difference between 14 seats and 301 seats, enabling Labour at the moment to form a minority government when it does not have twice the number of votes of a minority party which has only 14 seats in the House. [More…]
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The mere fact of it gaining more votes meant that it took primary votes from the 2 major parties, which ensured that one of the major parties would be faced with a situation of having to form a minority government. [More…]
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Nobody knows whom the defranchised percentage of voters would have voted for. [More…]
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Those voters virtually did not have a vote. [More…]
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If they did not vote for either the Conservative Party or the Labour Party they virtually did not have a vote. [More…]
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I suppose the most democratic form of election is the proportional representation system which ensures that the representation in the parliament will reflect completely the will of all the people who are entitled to vote and which will give the minorities as well as the majorities the right to have voices in the parliament. [More…]
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The other minor parties gained 24 seats from approximately 1,700,000 votes. [More…]
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The Liberals received more than 6 million votes but only 14 seats. [More…]
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Labour won S seats more than the Conservatives, while polling 0.9 per cent fewer votes. [More…]
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It is estimated that, if proportional representation with the single transferable vote had applied, the Conservatives would have won 242 seats, Labor 236 and Liberal 122. [More…]
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There is a great deal in this Bill about Parliament being elected directly by the people, with a vote being guaranteed for everybody over the age of 18 years, including Australian citizens who have had a reasonable period of residence in an electorate. [More…]
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The first principle is that in future, although the vote is being guaranteed to all Australian citizens over the age of 18 years, electorates are to be drawn up in such a way that all the people, including children- presumably even babies- unnaturalised Australians and others who do not enrol, will be included. [More…]
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For those reasons in particular I propose to vote against this measure. [More…]
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Has the Leader of the Government in the Senate had his attention drawn to recent Press reports which claim that Senator Withers, Leader of the Opposition in the Senate and Liberal Party spokesman on the Australian Capital Territory, is accusing the Government of sneakiness and dishonesty and saying that the Government was never serious about giving residents of the Territories a vote in the forthcoming referendums? [More…]
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I would think that the Leader of the Opposition in the Senate has done his utmost to see that the people of the Territories do not get a vote on important questions. [More…]
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I have no doubt that he will go out leading his flock to campaign against the referendum Bills and to encourage the people of the States to vote against giving the people of the Territories a vote in future referenda. [More…]
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But, whatever proposals are permitted to be placed before the people, they will be issues upon which there will be advocacy by some of a Yes vote and by others of a No vote. [More…]
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The people decided that they would determine this by vote at a referendum which was related to a specific power. [More…]
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Senator Prowse and others joined with us and we successfully defeated the resolution in all States with the exception of New South Wales where the Yes vote won by a handful of votes. [More…]
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The attitude of members of the Opposition to the other 4 questions is that they do not intend to provide for democratic elections; they do not intend to give the people of the Australian Capital Territory and the Northern Territory any rights to vote in a referendum; they do not intend to allow local government authorities to come before the Loan Council; and they do not intend to allow any of the things that we believe will bring greater democracy to this country. [More…]
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They are trapped, and because they are trapped they are saying: We will not vote against it. [More…]
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No one can ever say that we will vote against this question’. [More…]
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That is obvious, because they know that the States in which their own parties are in control will demand that they vote for this question at a later date. [More…]
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Honourable senators opposite say that they are members of a States House, but for 99.99 per cent of the time they vote on party lines. [More…]
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He will vote along the Country Party line every time. [More…]
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We all vote with our parties and it is nonsense to say that this is a States House when a question of this nature is before us. [More…]
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The Opposition will not vote- against the Bill, because we do not believe that any citizen should suffer direct financial loss or embarrassment because of this Government’s maladministration and financial lunacy. [More…]
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-The Government is dealing with those who voted for the proposition in the other place. [More…]
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He has marshalled the forces there to vote against the matter. [More…]
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One would think he would marshal whatever arguments could be made and put in the case for a No vote. [More…]
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But the procedures under the Act relating to referenda contemplate the argument being formally prepared or put in the names of those in the House of Parliament which voted for the proposition. [More…]
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Therefore when we vote for a motion such as this we do so only for this reason. [More…]
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Therefore my Party proposes to vote against the Bill at the second reading stage. [More…]
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We will not support the motion for the second reading and will vote against it. [More…]
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All the fears on which this Government has lived and sought to get a quick vote are now being found out. [More…]
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Last Saturday the people of Western Australia, by their vote, gave me an indication of their feelings about the present mining and petroleum policies, and I believe that I am only expressing and supporting those views at this time. [More…]
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But presumably this is the way the Party will vote. [More…]
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In the seat of Merredin- Yilgarin the vote was 24.9 per cent in 1971. [More…]
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In the seat of Moore the vote in 1971 was 51.67 per cent and on Saturday it was 65.44 per cent. [More…]
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In the electorate of Narrogin the combined vote was 33.82 per cent and on Saturday it was 50.2 per cent. [More…]
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Unless I am provoked I shall give only the ones that show an improved vote. [More…]
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The ‘West Australian’ newspaper was largely responsible for the Labor Party getting a bad vote last Saturday. [More…]
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The right of every Australian citizen to vote at a national referendum or Senate or Federal elections for the retention of our present Australian flag and equally of our national anthem, ‘God Save The Queen’, before any government or other body can attempt to substitute either a new flag or anthem, and a similar voting right for the choice of any official national song to play on international occasions. [More…]
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Is it not a fact that the President of the Senate can be elected only by a majority vote of the Senate? [More…]
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If the statement of the Leader of the Government in the Senate- that the appointment of Senator Gair as Ambassador to Ireland was accepted on 14 March- is correct I ask him to clarify the situation with regard to the vote which Senator Gair exercised in this Senate last night at approximately 10 p.m. (Honourable senators interjecting)- [More…]
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Yesterday Senator Gair came into the Senate and voted. [More…]
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Yet the Leader of the Government sat in his place and watched the man whom he said was not a senator come before the Senate and vote. [More…]
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If the Attorney-General knew that Senator Gair was not a senator, why did he allow him to vote? [More…]
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There is a new situation in Thailand where in the next few months the people will move away from a military dictatorship to a position where they will be able to vote for themselves. [More…]
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Like the previous Bill, this Bill is a Government Bill only to the extent of facilitating its being debated and put to a vote. [More…]
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All members of the Australian Labor Party will have a free vote on this Bill. [More…]
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If this Bill is not even to be debated and put to a vote, let them say so. [More…]
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The Opposition parties carried out a campaign of fear and confusion, to the extent that a ‘no’ vote was registered. [More…]
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The right of every Australian citizen to vote at a National Referendum or Senate or Federal Elections for the retention of our present Australian Flag and equally of our national anthem, ‘God Save The Queen’, before any government or other body can attempt to substitute either a new flag or anthem, and a similar voting right for the choice of any official National Song to play on international occasions. [More…]
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If the honourable senator thought that 1 was in some way pleased by the vote being against me on that occasion on Tuesday, I assure him that I was not. [More…]
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-Did the AttorneyGeneral and the Leader of the Government in the Senate knowingly allow Senator Gair to take his seat in the Senate, vote in divisions of the Senate and accept emoluments as a senator without his taking action to inform the Senate, his Department or the Australian Treasury of the circumstances of Senator Gair’s appointment to the post of Ambassador? [More…]
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Can the Attorney-General inform the Parliament whether the former senator could possibly cast a valid vote in the division on Tuesday evening when, for all practical purposes, he was forced to enter the Senate under escort and left the chamber in the same manner? [More…]
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As Attorney-General and as one who should know both the Standing Orders and the Constitution, at the time the AttorneyGeneral informed Senator Gair that he was not, in Senator Murphy’s view, a Senator, did the Attorney-General inform Senator Gair that he should not vote in this chamber? [More…]
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The Bill provides that all members of the Commission be entitled to vote. [More…]
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It would receive material and opinions, hear submissions and come to a proper decision in a way which is expected of a body concerned with the rights of persons and which is especially concerned with the right to vote- something which affects every person who is entitled to vote in Queensland, candidates who might wish to stand for election and in general the people of Australia. [More…]
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But we will do it by Rafferty ‘s rules, and we will sit here and determine the rights of people according to a party political vote’? [More…]
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Honourable senators opposite will, in effect, put up their hands in their party rooms and then come in here and decide questions of the rights of persons, not only of senators or would be senators, according simply to a party political vote - [More…]
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For some 38 minutes we have listened to a very interesting piece of advocacy by Senator Murphy, the burden of which, as I understand it, is that the Senate ought to do certain things in accordance with the motion he has moved, because to do otherwise would be to vote on political lines. [More…]
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I ought to make it quite clear from the outset, as I have on numerous occasions, that we in the Liberal Party do not caucus, and no Liberal senator is bound to vote on political lines in this chamber on any question. [More…]
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I will go further As far as it is within my power to direct- I do not believe I have such a power- I now state quite categorically that I would direct every Liberal senator to vote upon this question according to his conscience, and under no circumstances to vote on this matter according to his political affiliation. [More…]
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I would be shocked to think that the 20 Liberal senators here would vote merely upon miserable, narrow political lines. [More…]
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As always, they will vote according to their belief that they are putting their vote where their vote ought to go as a matter of principle. [More…]
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Mr President, I propose to take the Leader of the Opposition (Senator Withers) at his word when he states that honourable senators opposite are not bound by any party allegiances in their attitude towards the proposal that has been put to the Senate by Senator Murphy but will vote according to their conscience. [More…]
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If so, and if members of the Opposition are, as he assured us, genuinely to vote today according to their conscience and not according to the numbers, I cannot see how they can fail to reject his substitute for an argument and pay some regard to the arguments which have been advanced from this side of the chamber. [More…]
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He admitted that he told Senator Gair that he was not qualified to come here and vote. [More…]
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Yet he admits that he sat in his chair and saw Senator Gair vote. [More…]
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Senator Gair voted in 9 divisions in the period when Senator Murphy said he was no longer a senator. [More…]
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No one can accurately predict the result if 5 or 6 senators are to be elected in Queensland because the people themselves will vote on that. [More…]
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That result could be achieved with an even number of members on each side of the chamber and 3 judges who could cast their votes. [More…]
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I do not know whether that is so and no one will know until we get the final result- the vote of the people of [More…]
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Therefore, when this question comes to a vote I will support the proposal to send this matter out of this chamber for decision, unless we can agree to have it decided by an equal number of senators from both sides of the chamber and 3 independent judges sitting where you, Mr Deputy President, are sitting at the present time. [More…]
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I believe that the correct procedure is not to accept the amendment but to vote for the motion. [More…]
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I believe that the people are entitled to be disgusted with the Prime Minister who has schemed to gain a majority vote in this Senate in order to reverse the balance of power given by the people in a democratic vote. [More…]
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Not only is the Senate competent to deal with the matter, but also it has a clear obligation to demonstrate by its vote that it will not again be used as a pawn in a rigged game of political chess. [More…]
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He felt that if the honourable senator had any political nous he would not, by his vote, have supported the publicity that was given in his own State against his own personal interests. [More…]
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I understand that Senator Gair had tried to persuade Senator Little individually and the members of the Democratic Labor Party collectively of the advantages or disadvantages of their intended vote. [More…]
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A disqualified senator, by participating in a vote on them, could have put in peril the whole question of the authenticity of the business of this chamber. [More…]
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To make that stick, following the enormous pressure exerted by honourable senators by way of questioning to get at the truth of what had happened in this instance, a statement was made, not in this chamber but in another place, and for the first time, that Senator Gair, who was alleged by the Government to have been an ambassador for some 3 weeks and had come in here on 9 occasions and voted in divisions during that period, was told by the Attorney-General, who sits in this chamber, that he should not be here and that he should not vote. [More…]
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For that reason we will have no hesitation when we come to vote on this motion. [More…]
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If in its endeavours to obtain a majority vote in this place the Australian Government was able to persuade any member of the Parliament to accept a position, one can only conclude that the person who accepted the position knowingly and willingly made the decision in the light of all the circumstances. [More…]
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It was equally a matter of the responsibility of Senator McManus, the Leader of his Party, to question whether Senator Gair was entitled to be recording a vote in this chamber. [More…]
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No doubt he will cross the floor and vote because this will be a vote on Party political lines. [More…]
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He will vote for a proposition that this matter be not referred to the High Court of Australia. [More…]
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Instead the Opposition says: ‘Let us have a Party political vote. [More…]
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The people will be deprived of a vote in the election. [More…]
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For our Government here to contend that there should be a vote by the people is somehow considered irregular and improper. [More…]
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It is suggested that the people should not be entitled to have a vote. [More…]
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a vote of the people to fill that position. [More…]
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This Senate does not reflect the popular vote. [More…]
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On behalf of the Opposition I wish to indicate that we will not vote for the second reading of these 2 health Bills. [More…]
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Does he recall that every member of his Party in the Senate supported this clause then, but that it was beaten by one vote because the then Government, to the last man, voted against my proposal? [More…]
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The possibility that the people of Western Australia may be required to vote for the House of Representatives earlier that the Distribution Commissioners may have expected has, in the Government’s view, simply given additional urgency to the need for action in this matter. [More…]
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Moreover I think this points up Labor’s policy of one vote one value. [More…]
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And vote against them the Opposition will. [More…]
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Yesterday the Prime Minister (Mr Whitlam) was asked a question in relation to the situation in the Senate, that is, action being taken to object to or to vote against financial measures, appropriation Bills and the like. [More…]
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I emphasise the words ‘Appropriation Bills’- which have been opposed by this Opposition in whole or in part by a vote in the Senate since 1 950. [More…]
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The Prime Minister was referring to a tradition of action over 20 years in which the whole of the Labor Party in the Senate time and time again- 168 times- trooped across the chamber in unison to vote against measures such as this. [More…]
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In those circumstances is it any wonder that the Opposition will have some considerable pride in being able to retain its sense of propriety and say: ‘If you want a double dissolution and you want to include this Bill in your request, we shall certainly do our part in providing a double dissolution because we shall vote against the proposal’. [More…]
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All I ask is that if these funds have reserves, there should be a postal vote by members to decide whether say $5m of a reserve of $7m should be fed back to stabilise or even reduce premiums. [More…]
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In 1953-54 1 had a vote in a small railway sick fund whenever a matter had to be adjudicated. [More…]
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I make it clear that I am convinced that the policy of the Opposition Party to which I belong is that this debate will not be proceeded with for too long before we vote on the Bill. [More…]
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Really, in truth, if a test were made we would vote unanimously to defeat this Bill. [More…]
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We are not being asked to make a decision and to vote on that taxing rule; the amount of tax has not even been mentioned. [More…]
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We are being asked to vote on a Bill which will live or die on the basis of the taxing part. [More…]
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We are being asked to give passage to the Bill without being told or being able to debate or to vote on the taxing part of it. [More…]
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I realise that the Minister will respond in this debate, but I hope that we will put this measure to a vote tonight and will defeat it. [More…]
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The reason we put this legislation forward now is that we realise that the Opposition parties have said they will vote against the Supply Bills when they come into the Senate and we want to prove that we have done our very utmost for the Australian people and to satisfy them that we have tried. [More…]
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On every occasion when the vote could have been taken it has been taken for one purpose. [More…]
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I feel that the nature of the vote on the Supply Bills, when they are presented to the Senate, will be so serious that we should not treat it lightly. [More…]
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The Opposition and the Opposition parties- I hope my friends and allies will not object to my including them in this statement- when the Electoral Bill first came before the Senate last year decided to vote against it. [More…]
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Democratic elections, simultaneous elections and the rest of these phoney questions are deliberately put out to deceive the elector when he goes to vote. [More…]
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The primary producers in Western Australia showed what they thought of the Government by their vote at the election in that State a few Saturdays ago. [More…]
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The Australian Democratic Labor Party will vote against Supply. [More…]
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We disregard the contention of some speakers on the Government side that there is some constitutional reason, some traditional reason, why an Upper House should not vote against Supply. [More…]
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We know of the positions which have been dangled in front of honourable senators with a view to influencing their votes. [More…]
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That represented an obvious attempt to set up a system of bribery under which the people in those electorates who were prepared to vote for the Labor Party would receive the cream and those who did not vote for the Labor Party would not. [More…]
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This is an area dominated by Dr J. F. Cairns, an area in which obviously Labor voters are to be found in larger numbers than elsewhere. [More…]
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It will then propose a system under which the number of people, not the number of voters, in each electorate shall be the same. [More…]
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Therefore, the Labor Party proposes to initiate an electoral system, if it wins this election, under which a vote cast in a Labor Party electorate will carry with it infinite advantages over a vote cast in a Liberal electorate. [More…]
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What they have in design is this: They will make it very difficult for the small parties, for a start, by substantially increasing the deposit required by a candidate to stand for Parliament and by substantially increasing the percentage of the vote necessary for a candidate to retain his deposit. [More…]
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They sit back there and think about how they can salvage their consciences and how they can vote on these measures in some way that will enable them to pretend that they did not really refuse Supply. [More…]
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We do not shirk from taking that challenge and giving the people of Australia the opportunity to vote upon the question. [More…]
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We decided to vote against the Bills last November and we voted against them again yesterday. [More…]
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All that I think should be said, because it is important to make the point and to make the point stick, is that the Opposition has said, on each of the occasions when it has voted against these matters which the Government has said have been important matters, that we are prepared to go to the people and to let the people judge whether we are right or the Government is right. [More…]
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We feel that these are sufficiently important matters to give the people of Australia a chance to determine and to vote on. [More…]
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I ask that the Senate proceed in an orderly way to do what the Government has determined ought to be done in the light of the delay and denial by this chamber, as intimated by the vote taken earlier this evening, of the necessary Supply for the Government. [More…]
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Because of the shortage of time I do not have the opportunity of going through all the matters which brought me to a decision that because this was such a grave emergency I was prepared to vote that supply and appropriation be deferred until an election took place. [More…]
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Therefore I wish to indicate that before I shall vote for the Appropriation Bill (No. [More…]
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On my present understanding of them, I insist that the Senate is entitled to know and is obliged to know the period of the program of the election before it can sensibly consider the Supply that is appropriate to be voted. [More…]
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I am here only to advance a proposition that before I vote for any money Bill I wish to be satisfied that I am acting in accordance with the authority of the Governor-General and know the period to be occupied by the election. [More…]
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It was beaten fairly and squarely by the vote of the people of Australia who put the present Government into power. [More…]
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Sir Robert said that it would be very rarely that a Liberal senator, a Country Party senator or a Labor senator would feel himself free to vote against giving effect to a measure propounded by his own Party in the House of Representatives. [More…]
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No matter what is said by any leader of any Party, although he told his members that they could vote freely, they would not be game to vote freely because they would run the risk of not being re-endorsed. [More…]
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I sincerely trust that they will fill this House with Independents, because they are the only ones who are capable and game to vote on behalf of the people the way they truly feel. [More…]
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He said that senators on this side of the chamber were not game to vote against the decisions of their party. [More…]
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In reply to the claim of Senator Negus that senators on this side of the chamber are not prepared to vote against the decisions taken by their party, let me say that during the time I have been here I have voted according to my conscience. [More…]
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One of the cardinal differences between the senators on this side of the chamber and those on the other side is that we are free to vote according to our conscience; and I will never sell that right. [More…]
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Throughout my 24 years in this place- I am now into my twentyfifth year- I have always exercised my right to vote in accordance with my conscience. [More…]
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Although some people may not be prepared to vote against the decisions taken by their party, I am not one of them, and I know that Senator Wright is not one of them. [More…]
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But I would hope that we can revive the report and that the Houses can vote on the recommendations of the Committee when the Parliament reconvenes. [More…]
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I trust that the Parliament will vote on our recommendations and I would hope that this would be a non-party vote. [More…]
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Ballot papers will be distributed to honourable senators who are each requested to write upon the paper the name of the candidate for whom he or she desires to vote. [More…]
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Therefore your Petitioners most humbly pray that the Senate, in Parliament assembled, will take the most urgent steps to ensure the right of every Australian elector to have a vote at a National Referendum, Senate or Federal Elections for the retention of the present National Anthem ‘God Save The Queen ‘, before the Commonwealth Government attempts to substitute a new Anthem. [More…]
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I would like to say that although I am the last man in I do not intend, if I can help it, to be the first man out and I know that my vote will count in this place equally with that of anyone else. [More…]
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Having indicated that we would vote against the gag on the Supply Bill, the Government accepted the challenge and then submitted to the Governor-General a recommendation for a double dissolution of the Parliament. [More…]
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In Australia the Senate owes its election to the general suffrage, the adult vote, of the people on as wide a democratic basis as the election of the Australian House of Commons, the House of Representatives. [More…]
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Section 5 1 enumerates the general powers of this Federal Parliament; section 52 enumerates the powers which belong to this Parliament alone, its exclusive powers; section 53 then devotes itself to the difference between the powers of the Senate and of the House of Representatives. [More…]
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The article states that he told a crowd that a vote for Labor would make Australia the prisoner of a stinking communist government which would be its downfall. [More…]
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The changes proposed by this Bill are designed to provide, by legislative measures that, as far as may be practicable, the value of the vote of one citizen shall be equivalent to the vote of another and to give some meaningful application to the principle of one vote one value without unnecessarily restricting the Distribution Commissioners in proposing a redistribution. [More…]
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They were designed to encourage departure from the quota of electors in a manner which dilutes the vote in metropolitan areas and weights it in favour of rural areas. [More…]
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We seek only to introduce and perpetuate, as far as possible, the principle of ‘one vote, one value’ and to ensure that the result of an election will reflect the opinion of the majority. [More…]
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Both Bills were taken to the second reading stage but no vote on either Bill was allowed. [More…]
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We have seen patronage used by the massive outpourings of government money designed to secure the votes of persons who are dependent upon government money. [More…]
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We have seen promises made to the teachers of this country which, quite bluntly stated, mean that unless you vote for this government you will be denied what we have promised you. [More…]
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If they continue to take the view that the Australian people did not really vote for Labor at the last Federal election, they will continue to be disillusioned in future and they will never develop the ideological core and reason for existence which they need and which we on this side of the Senate need. [More…]
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The Government won the May election with less than 50 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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I suggest that the Government should look at this aspect, introduce the holding of secret ballots for the election of union officials and insist that all trade unionists in Australia vote at such elections. [More…]
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I believe that if that happened the average trade unionist in Australia would vote at such an election and would see that the irresponsible trade union leaders were thrown out of office and replaced by fair dinkum Australian workers who have the interests of their fellow workers at hean. [More…]
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There is a lot more I wish to say on this subject but I know that the Senate wishes to proceed to a vote. [More…]
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Will the AttorneyGeneral make inquiries to ascertain whether, prior to the recent general election, the Queensland Law Society sent out to all its members an official notification that they should vote against Australian Labor Party candidates because of the fact that the Attorney-General had instituted free legal aid in Queensland? [More…]
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We seek only to introduce and perpetuate, as Tar as possible, the principle of ‘one vote one value’ and to ensure that the result of an election will reflect the opinion of the majority. [More…]
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Surely the Act in its present form ensures that, because at the last election for the House of Representatives the Australian Labor Party obtained 49.3 per cent of the primary vote and 51.96 per cent of the seats. [More…]
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But Mr Daly’s refusal to accept 52 per cent of the seats for less than 50 per cent of the votes leads one to believe that he and his Party want more than 52 per cent of the seats for a similar or lesser vote. [More…]
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They want to rig the electoral system so that the Australian Labor Party can gain office with 50 per cent or less of the vote while ensuring that the Opposition would require more than 50 per cent of the vote to gain office. [More…]
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But for the alertness of Liberal Party scrutineers the Labor Party would have won 60 per cent of the seats in my State of Western Australia with only 46 per cent of the votes. [More…]
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That is its mathematics of the principle of one vote one value, that is, that one Labor [More…]
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Party vote should equal 1 1/2 Opposition votes. [More…]
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Mr Daly knows full well, as does the rest of the Australian Labor Party, that in New South Wales the Liberal Party and Country Party candidates work under an electorate understanding and that therefore the more accurate way of assessing the situation in that State is to look at the vote in New South Wales as a whole. [More…]
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On 18 May the Liberal and Country Parties won 48.8 per cent of the vote in New South Wales and 44 per cent of the seats; the Australian Labor Party won 52 per cent of the vote and 55 per cent of the seats. [More…]
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Mr Daly’s figures are meaningless and phoney because when he sought to single out small electorates to compare with the large electorates he noticeably did not mention his electorate of Grayndler in New South Wales, which is one of the smallest in area and one of the smallest in the number of voters in it. [More…]
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Mr Daly’s electorate, which is a metropolitan seat and a Labor Party seat, has 53,695 voters, which is 6,000 fewer than the 59,428 electors in Mr Anthony’s electorate. [More…]
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I put to the Senate that he is not keen to alter the situation in Tasmania because in that State, with only 55 per cent of the vote, the Australian Labor Party has 100 per cent of the seats. [More…]
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It has not been introduced for reasons of equity, of justice or to obtain one vote one value because those provisions are established under our present legislation. [More…]
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That is a peculiar assertion when one considers that under the 1968 redistribution Labor has twice been able to win government with less than 50 per cent of the primary vote. [More…]
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-If I may interpose to answer as a matter of interest those useless and quite irrelevant interjections, at no time between 1949 and 1972 did your Party receive a majority of the primary vote above the Liberal-Country Party and the Democratic Labor Party except in 1954 when your Party ought to have won the election, but that was held on boundaries set by your Party in 1948. [More…]
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Even with the passage of 6 years and with the vast increase in the number of electors as a result of the introduction of 18-year-old voting, the 1968 redistribution still gives an accurate reflection of the voters’ preferences. [More…]
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The Labor Party, with 49.3 per cent of the formal votes cast obtained 51.96 per cent of the seats in the new Parliament. [More…]
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The combined Liberal-Country Party vote was 45.8 per cent and we received 48.03 per cent of the seats. [More…]
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This tendency was very clearly exhibited by Senator Brown recently when, while representing the Minister for Aboriginal Affairs, Senator Cavanagh, he told a public meeting at Bairnsdale that if it had not been for pressure by a Labor Government Aborigines might still not have the vote. [More…]
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That tendency to expound without knowledge will cost Senator Brown $1,000, for Victorian Aborigines got the vote in 1855. [More…]
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When a redistribution has been needed we have voted for that redistribution. [More…]
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When a redistribution is necessary in the future we will vote for that redistribution if it is fair and just. [More…]
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If we had been cynical and self-seeking, as is the Labor Party, we would have voted against both proposals because they would not have been to our electoral advantage. [More…]
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Senator Withers talked about the margin of votes by which a candidate won an electorate. [More…]
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I emphasise again that if the number of votes cast for a candidate exceeds the aggregate vote of that candidate’s major opponents and he still loses the seat, how can it be said that the vote cast by a person in one electorate is reasonably on a par with that cast by a person in another electorate? [More…]
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If a draftsman has to create a new set of electorates and achieve a fluctuation of 20 per cent of voters within which to manoeuvre, there will be all sorts of combinations of voters. [More…]
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An attempt should be made to reduce that fluctuation in the number of voters in an electorate. [More…]
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When the final vote was determined and the margin was known, it was so close that our candidate, Mr Reece, had every reason to make an appeal. [More…]
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I have placed questions on the notice paper asking why people in Suva did not get a vote. [More…]
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That meant in effect that people coming from the Midlands and elsewhere in Britain had only a limited time during the day to cast a vote on 18 May. [More…]
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A few friends of mine who would have voted for me and others in the Labor Party were disenfranchised at Australia House. [More…]
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Therefore I believe the Bill should be rejected and I will vote as the Leader of the Opposition has indicated against this Bill as will my Party. [More…]
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When the Labor Party came to office in 1965 it was faced with a situation in which there were 10 times as many voters in one electorate than there were in another; there were 5,000 electors in one and 50,000 electors in another. [More…]
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The very fact that honourable senators on this side of the chamber might reasonably view with concern what the Labor Party might do with the electoral system if it were fully in charge of it does not take away the responsibility of Opposition senators to vote for a fair system, and I am very disappointed indeed to hear - [More…]
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The test has been given, and it is of little use for the Leader of the Opposition to say that he will keep on knocking the legislation back, as his vote here is only symbolic in that way in any case. [More…]
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‘One vote one value’. [More…]
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Our purpose is to maintain, as far as is practicable and fair, the principle of one vote one value. [More…]
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I assume that that is what this Bill is about, one vote one value; to bring in an electoral system which will as near as practicable give an equal say to all electors, whether they are in the country or the city, in the conduct of the affairs of their country which personally affect them. [More…]
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One finds that Mr Anthony’s reference to equal representation does not mean an equal say in relation to the value of a vote; it is apparently some equal voice. [More…]
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But is it the mathematical value of a person’s vote that should be the be all and end all or is it the value of representation he is able to receive in this Parliament? [More…]
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Equality of representation should be seen to be far more important than mere mathematical equality of votes. [More…]
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I have a very recent experience of within 2 years educating a conservative country electorate in a State sphere to accept a policy of one vote one value, and to vote vehemently for it. [More…]
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I say quite clearly that if the resulting redrawing of boundaries is unfair I will vote against that redrawing. [More…]
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So I will vote on other Bills as I see fit. [More…]
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I refer again to the statement by Dr Forbes in South Australia on Friday morning that if we, the Independents, vote with the Opposition the Senate can continue to frustrate the Government’s program. [More…]
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Despite his comments, I intend to oppose this Bill and to vote against it. [More…]
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The test of fairness is whether the party that polls a majority of votes wins a majority of seats. [More…]
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Before we come to that question and test it, let me say that it is never possible, it never has been possible and it never will be possible to ensure that the value of a single vote is the same in every electorate. [More…]
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He said that only once in that period, in 1954, did the Labor Party receive more than 50 per cent of the votes and not form a government. [More…]
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At the last election the Labor Party received 49.3 per cent of the votes and won 51.96 per cent of the seats. [More…]
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If my memory is correct the Australian Labor Party obtained 49.9 per cent of the vote in the previous election in 1972 and won just over 52 per cent of the seats. [More…]
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In the last election the Liberal and Country Parties received 45.6 per cent of the formal votes and won 48.03 per cent of the seats. [More…]
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The figures expressed as a ratio of the percentage of seats to the percentage of votes are 1.0539 for the Labor Party and 1.0526 for the Liberal and Country Parties. [More…]
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Senator Withers has referred to the fact that the Liberal and Country Parties received 52 per cent of the vote in Western Australia and the Labor Party received 46.3 per cent. [More…]
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I repeat for Senator McLaren’s benefit that the Liberal and Country Parties received 52 per cent of the vote in Western Australia and the Australian Labor Party received 46.3 per cent, yet each won 5 seats. [More…]
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But for losing by 1 1 votes in the electorate of Stirling, the Labor Party would have won 6 seats on that percentage. [More…]
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I digress for a moment to say that the Prime Minister said at one stage of the game that he favoured the concept of one vote one value as being a true indication. [More…]
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1 per cent of the vote and won 46.7 per cent of the seats and the Labour Party polled 37.2 per cent of the vote and won 47.5 per cent of the seats. [More…]
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The Liberal Party polled 19.3 per cent of the vote and won 2.2 per cent of the seats. [More…]
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Other parties and individuals polled 5.4 per cent of the vote and won 3.6 per cent of the seats. [More…]
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Let us have a look at the concept of one vote one value. [More…]
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Those 17 divisions cast 1,024,333 formal votes averaging 60,254 formal votes for each division. [More…]
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Excluding the division of Darling, the other 16 divisions cast 977,079 formal votes on an average of 61,067 for each division. [More…]
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The 28 metropolitan divisions in New South Wales cast 1,810,858 votes or 64,673 for each division. [More…]
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The value of the extra-metropolitan area votes is equal to that of 1.07 metropolitan voters or 1.05 metropolitan voters if the division of Darling is excluded. [More…]
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In that instance there is very close to the concept of one vote one value. [More…]
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One would have thought that under normal circumstances it would have been quickly put to a vote in this chamber and that the Parliament would have been allowed to proceed to a joint sitting so that the Government can get on with its legislative program. [More…]
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The essence of democracy, as I have always known it, is that the will of the people must prevail, that government must rest on the consent of the governed and that no voter must be favoured or discriminated against in the exercise of his vote. [More…]
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I believe that that principle presupposes that as far as practicable each vote cast to elect members to any representative assembly, whether it be national, State or municipal, must be equal in value to the vote of any other citizen. [More…]
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It is clear that if this principle is to prevail, the principle of one vote one value must also prevail. [More…]
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It upholds the principle of electoral equality- the principle of one vote one value. [More…]
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That alteration was the very alteration which destroyed the principle of one vote one value. [More…]
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We on this side all know, and I believe all on the other side know, that territorial representation is the direct opposite of one vote one value, the principle of this Bill we are introducing. [More…]
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We are introducing it because we believe in the principle of one vote one value and we believe that if it is accepted by this chamber and becomes law it will get rid of the obnoxious legislation that is now weighted in favour of the Country Party allowing voting on the basis of acres and not people. [More…]
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Its members included Sir Neil O’sullivan, who was the Attorney-General in this Parliament before he retired; Senator Wright, who is still with us but not with us on this vote; Senator McKenna; Senator Kennelly; Mr Drummond, the then member for New England and a distinguished member of the Parliament- [More…]
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This Committee agreed unanimously- and all of its members, including Senator Wright, were signatories to its conclusions- to support the principle of one vote one value. [More…]
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But the important thing is that not only did it support the principle of one vote one value but it also supported the reduction of the quota from one-fifth to onetenth. [More…]
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The equality is not maintained if the vote of a person in one part of the country has a greater effect in securing parliamentary representation than the vote of a person in another part of the country. [More…]
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The Australian Labor Party polled 430,476 votes or received 48 per cent of the votes for 33 seats. [More…]
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The Liberal Party polled 2 10,608 votes or 22.2 per cent of the votes for 2 1 seats. [More…]
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The Australian Country Party polled 181,288 votes or 20 per cent of the votes for 26 seats. [More…]
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The combination of the Liberal Party and Country Party coalition votes represented 42.2 per cent of the vote for 47 seats. [More…]
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The Australian Labor Party received 48 per cent of the vote for 33 seats. [More…]
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The coalition Government in Queensland received 42.2 per cent of the votes for 47 seats and the Australian Labor Party received 48 per cent of the votes for 33 seats. [More…]
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So that is the pattern of democracy set by the Mother of Parliaments, which retains the principle of one vote, one value. [More…]
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There are many electorates which have 30,000 voters and a few which have over 90,000 or 100,000 voters. [More…]
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The electorate Laprairie in Quebec had an enrolment of 59,73 1 voters. [More…]
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The electorate of Dallard in Quebec had 59,219 voters. [More…]
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The electorate of Etobicoke in metropolitan Toronto had an enrolment of 71,562 voters. [More…]
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The electorate of York Scarborough had an enrolment of 79,786 voters. [More…]
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Government senators speak of one vote one value. [More…]
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They have mentioned the principle of one vote, one value quite often. [More…]
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The principle of one vote, one value could at the best apply only to the House of [More…]
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Indeed, the value of a vote cast in Tasmania is worth more than the value of a vote cast in say, New South Wales- [More…]
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At the last election the Government’s share of the vote for the House of Representatives election fell and its majority in that House was reduced in spite of the fact that it won extra seats in the Australian Capital Territory and Western Australia. [More…]
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The people who vote for members of the Senate are the same people who vote for members of the House of Representatives. [More…]
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As regards the distribution of electorates represented in the other chamber, I make no bones about saying that it is not just a matter of the number of electorates; it is not just a matter of one vote one value; it is a matter of taking the amalgamation effect of the electorates of this Commonwealth. [More…]
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Phrases like ‘one man one vote ‘ sound good. [More…]
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The Government could set out the electorates tomorrow in such a way as to represent one man one vote. [More…]
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We have to recognise that the principle of one man one vote is one of the dreams that you cannot hold to all the time. [More…]
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The vote on this Bill is of immense importance and will be of historical importance to the Senate. [More…]
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We have an indication that the sides are firmly set for this vote, and it appears that the Bill will be passed by the Senate. [More…]
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In the public mind the idea of one vote one value can generally be said to be accepted, but the words ‘one vote one value’ are one of the gimmicks which the Australian Labor Party has used to influence a great many people over the past few years about the electoral system. [More…]
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The Labor Party put the proposition of one vote one value. [More…]
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I am pleased that no senator on either side agrees with the one vote one value principle. [More…]
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It says: ‘We agree with one vote one value’. [More…]
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As I see it, that principle is more important than saying ‘one vote one value’. [More…]
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The principle of one vote one value has been put forward as a gimmick. [More…]
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I believe that the comments that have been made by the Labor Party about the principle of one vote one value have been made purely as a gimmick. [More…]
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But I take it that in mouthing the one vote one value gimmick Senator Steele Hall has apparently decided that it would be impossible to bring about a one vote one value situation. [More…]
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Senator Steele Hall then went on to say in his closing remarks that he did not want to be bound by his decision on this legislation to a similar decision on other legislation but that he will vote as he thinks fit. [More…]
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But it is useless for him to say that the Labor Party has a mandate to push this Bill through this place and then to say that he feels free to vote as he wishes on certain other legislation. [More…]
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The Senate has just been returned by a vote of the people as up to date as that applying to the House of Representatives but it is not under the control of the Labor Party. [More…]
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It was returned to Government on a vote which did not put it in control of the Senate. [More…]
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That vote was taken at exactly the same time as a vote was taken for the House of Representatives. [More…]
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Let us examine the case for a yes vote that was prepared by the Labor Party. [More…]
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The case for a yes vote, which was prepared by the Labor Party, stated arguments in favour of the proposed law and used words which I have attempted to use in saying what should be the basis not of a concept of one vote one value but of equality of representation, which is what we want to bring to the people. [More…]
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The Labor Party advised them to vote yes. [More…]
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The people voted no. [More…]
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I believe in the principle of one vote one value, and I always have believed in it. [More…]
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But one vote one value cannot operate unless it is practicable and made to work within the confines of a single member constituency. [More…]
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For example, the Labor Party in my own State of Victoria has a preponderance of voters in the northern and western suburbs of the metropolitan area of Melbourne. [More…]
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But in the eastern and south-eastern suburbs of Melbourne, at least until recently, there was a preponderance of Liberal Party voters and those seats were won handsomely. [More…]
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After all, you could never have at any one time an exact one vote one value. [More…]
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One vote one value in terms of absolute precision is unattainable. [More…]
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If we were to endeavour to maintain the concept of one vote one value we could be, or we should be, having a redistribution every 3 years. [More…]
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I said at the outset that I believed in the principle of one vote one value, and that originally was the concept which the Labor Party advanced when it introduced this measure. [More…]
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All I am saying is that the Labor Party won the last 2 elections, and won them under an electoral system which it ought not to say is weighted against it, particularly since in neither case did the Labor Party secure 50 per cent of the votes. [More…]
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Let us not forget that at the beginning of last year the Labor Party argued for one vote one value. [More…]
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When the Bill was defeated it came again and argued for one vote one value. [More…]
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And when a referendum was put to the people of Australia it was not a referendum which sought to promote one vote one value; it sought to promote a disparity greater than exists at the present time, and the Government put forward a referendum Bill designed to ensure that the electorates would be divided on the basis of population. [More…]
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That is the antithesis of one vote one value. [More…]
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When it could not get one vote one value earlier in its lifetime as a Government, it put forward a totally different proposal which the Australian people rejected. [More…]
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Now the Government claims to be the upholders of a one vote one value system which it was prepared to depart from when it suited its book. [More…]
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That of itself shows the falsity of the idea that arithmetically one vote should be considered as of one value for the purpose of making quotas exactly equal. [More…]
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Taking that fundamental fallacy, that speech by Senator Steele Hall, who has just returned to the chamber, entirely ignored consideration or understanding of the fact that at the last election the Government put forward a referendum not for one vote one value but for electorates to be divided according to quotas of population including qualified electors and unqualified electors. [More…]
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I would have thought that was like putting poison into wine if one were drinking at the fountain of the dogma of one vote one value. [More…]
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The referendum was defeated, and the Labor Government, which at one time espoused the principle of one vote one value and which at the election espoused the cause of electorates equal in population, was defeated in the Senate where Senator Steele Hall and I have our responsibilities to cast our vote. [More…]
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I did not come here to desert the people who gave the vote negativing that referendum and who refused to give the Government which put forward that referendum a majority in this chamber. [More…]
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Anybody who is true to the cause that he put forward to the electors opposing that referendum and denying the Government a majority in this chamber is bound, I submit, to cast his vote against this Bill, not in a spirit of obstruction but from the point of view of registering the principle upon which stand the rights of those people who voted for the senators who are not of the Government Party. [More…]
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The 20 per cent variation came in first in 1902 when there were 4 million Australians, when 1 8- year - olds did not have the vote, when we did not have telecommunications or communications by road, rail and air and that sort of thing that we have today. [More…]
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Honourable senators opposite have not quite made up their minds why it is that somebody in the country doing exactly the same work as somebody in the city is doing should have a vote which is two, three or four times the value of the person in the city. [More…]
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Senator Wood made the point that this was not really an issue at the election, that the people had voted on all sorts or things-whether they liked the colour of one’s tie or eyes or something like that. [More…]
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So I do not think anyone can really argue that this was not in the consciousness of the Australian people and that they did not vote quite clearly on this issue. [More…]
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What is wrong with that if it is going to give justice, if it is to keep as near as possible to one vote one value, to result in electorates of equal number? [More…]
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I do not know how people are going to vote, but I do not think that we want to get back to the situation that existed prior to the 1968 redistribution where in one State alone- Victoria- the seat of Melbourne had 31,000 electors and the seat of Bruce 130,000 electors. [More…]
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If the Opposition, as I have said, is going to vote against it I think that the sooner we have a vote the sooner we can carry out the rest of the constitutional processes to resolve this after our masters, the people, have spoken. [More…]
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I regret very much the remarks of the Leader of the Opposition (Senator Withers) when he referred to the seat of Stirling in Western Australia, the election for which resulted in a very close vote. [More…]
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That is a very clear smear against the civil servants who were counting the votes and who, as far as I have seen them over the years I have been associated with them, no matter how they themselves might have voted, have been devoted civil servants. [More…]
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I do not know, and I do not believe anybody else knows, how a person will vote. [More…]
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It does not matter whether they vote in an electorate which has one vote one value or whether their vote is worth 5 times that of somebody else. [More…]
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It is sheer fantasy for anyone to say that they know how a person will vote. [More…]
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the right to vote of the senators elected by electors in the Territories should be restricted to matters affecting the Territories; and that the senators to be appointed to the Committee be named by a subsequent resolution.’ [More…]
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It may be possible to argue successfully that a limitation which ought to be imposed is a limitation which restricts the right of Territory representatives in the Senate to talk upon and vote upon matters relating to the Territory, and that it goes no further. [More…]
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It was a right to speak and to vote on matters related to the affairs of the Territory which they represented. [More…]
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Arguments which are not properly addressed to the amendment but which are addressed to the Bill may suggest that if the vote of senators from the Territories is to be a crucial vote in this chamber it is far too amenable to the exercise of patronage by the Executive to be given such a pre-eminent place in the workings of this Parliament. [More…]
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Both Bills were taken to the second reading stage, but no vote on either Bill was allowed. [More…]
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One has only to look at the measure on which a vote was taken earlier tonight to see how the new senators voted. [More…]
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How did they vote? [More…]
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They voted on party lines. [More…]
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I am willing to wager a small amount that they are going to vote on party lines on this measure. [More…]
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The Opposition has also proposed in its amendment that the right to vote of any senators elected by the electors in the Territories should be restricted to matters affecting the Territories. [More…]
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It has already mentioned what used to happen in the other place when the honourable member for the Northern Territory was allowed to vote only on matters affecting the Northern Territory. [More…]
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The Opposition was quite prepared to deliberate then on matters in which it had no interest and which affected the Northern Territory but it wants to deny to the people of the Northern Territory the right to vote. [More…]
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By denying them the right to vote the Opposition is also doing them a grave injustice because the population of the Northern Territory is made up of a great many people who, in years gone by, have enjoyed the right in the States to vote at Senate elections and referendums and who, because they have decided to go the the Northern Territory and help in its development, have lost those voting rights and have been disenfranchised. [More…]
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The Opposition has opposed it in the Senate twice, although the Country Party voted for it in the other place on 29 May. [More…]
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An examination of the vote taken at page 2815 of the House of Representatives Hansard of that date shows that there were 78 votes in favour of the measure and 35 votes against it. [More…]
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From where did the votes in favour of the measure come to bolster the number to 78. [More…]
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They came from the members of the Country Party who crossed the floor and voted for the measure. [More…]
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The honourable member for the Northern Territory has been elected on each occasion on the platform that he will fight for Senate representation for the Northern Territory but when such a proposal has been put forward in this chamber the members of his Party in this place have deserted him and voted the other way. [More…]
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I am speaking more about the Northern Territory because I am a member of the Joint Committee on the Northern Territory and I have some regard for the people who live in the far flung places up there and about whom Senator Drake-Brockman spoke in relation to another measure earlier today when he said that because of it the Government was depriving the people of the outlying and far flung areas of the right to vote and to be represented. [More…]
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I will be very interested to see, when the vote is taken tonight, whether the Country Party or the National Alliance again turn their backs on the representatives of the Country Party in the Northern Territory. [More…]
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There is nothing much I can do about it except to keep on speaking up and pointing out to the people in the Northern Territory that honourable senators speak with one tongue when they are in the Northern Territory and when they come down here they vote differently. [More…]
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This legislation will go to a joint sitting and the people in the Northern Territory and in the Australian Capital Territory will then get that right which has been denied them for so long, that is, to have representatives in this chamber who can vote on all matters affecting the Commonwealth of Australia. [More…]
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What a ridiculous situation we have here, with the Labor Party saying: ‘OK, as on the previous Bill we want one vote one value’ and this sort of thing. [More…]
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Where is there one vote one value in that argument? [More…]
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If it was not for our side of politics he would not have a vote in the other House. [More…]
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the right to vote of the Senators elected by electors in the Territories should be restricted to matters affecting the Territories [More…]
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Does any honourable senator opposite seriously believe that the Labor Party, which at present cannot win the one House of Representatives seat for the Northern Territory, is going to win the 2 Senate vacancies in the Northern Territory, if they are created, or is the election to be decided on the basis of each party receiving more than 33 per cent of the vote which would be required to elect a senator? [More…]
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Even though we might have hopes that the Government could do better in the Australian Capital Territory, surely no one doubts that it is a very formidable task to expect any one party or group to win 66 per cent of the votes, even in the Australian Capital Territory. [More…]
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Another point that needs to be raised concerns the catchcry one vote one value that is always howled at us by Government supporters. [More…]
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It will be noted that one member would represent 42,189 voters. [More…]
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On that average, the Australian Capital Territory with 101,757 voters would be entitled to 2.4 representatives, and not four. [More…]
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This seems to make rather a mockery of the catchcry of Government supporters and others about one vote one value. [More…]
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It would save us from the faint hope that we may be able to convince him that on matters that are important to this country he should vote with the Government. [More…]
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Vote for the proposition and allow the Bill to pass through the Senate. [More…]
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I suggest that if honourable senators wish to defeat the Bill they should vote to do so. [More…]
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The Opposition side of the Senate- apparently twenty-nine thirtieths of the members of this chamber- after opposing the Bill on the 3 occasions that a vote has been taken on it and using a delaying tactic will put up candidates and go to those very people whom they said they did not want to have representation in this House and ask the people to trust them with that representation. [More…]
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Senator Wood, Sentor Wright and others have demonstrated their ability, when the Opposition parties were in government, to go very quickly to the other side of the chamber and vote with the Labor Party if they thought that an independent thought should be brought forward. [More…]
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Its members were saying: Please vote “Yes” for us on this referendum because this is a matter on which we feel you should vote “Yes” ‘. [More…]
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The great hoodwink which the Government is attempting is to bring 2 senators from the Northern Territory into this place not on a basis of any representation of electors, not on a basis of any proportion of people and not on the great things it has claimed for one vote one value, which is said to be Labor Party policy. [More…]
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It will be most interesting to see whether the great Labor principle of one vote one value and Aboriginal representation in that great area of the Northern Territory will be shown up by the present Labor Government’s declaration of what it wants in a fully elected Council. [More…]
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I believe that any senator who respects the integrity of this Senate and considers that States representation is the basis of its operation must vote against this legislation. [More…]
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It has a firm base of one vote one value, but in this legislation it has agreed to implement a proportional representation system. [More…]
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If I understand it, Mr President, Government senators have said that the Opposition should vote for this measure. [More…]
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I believe that if the will of the people, as expressed on Saturday, 18 May, is to be put into action, the Labor Government must withdraw this Bill or vote against it. [More…]
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I repeat: The whole gravamen of the argument of this Government for the last couple of days is that we must vote for these Bills because the people have expressed a will that they be carried. [More…]
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If he applies that test he must vote against this measure. [More…]
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Against that background and against the fact that the will of the electors is that Bills such as that before us now are bad in their judgment, I commend the amendment and urge the Senate to vote for it and to reject the Bill. [More…]
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They relate to the number of senators proposed for each territory and whether the right of territory senators to vote should be restricted to matters affecting the territories. [More…]
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The Opposition will try to avoid a vote on the passage of this legislation and it will endeavour to steer it towards some committee. [More…]
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But if it refuses to vote on a measure which the Government puts and requests a vote upon and instead steers it away by this tactical maneouvre simply to delay and obstruct, the Government’s attitude is that this would be a failure on the part of the Senate to pass it. [More…]
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The Australian electorate is prepared to give a reduced majority to Mr Whitlam, Mr Crean and Mr Clyde Cameron and to reveal their impulsive politicalisation of the country for another term, so long as the electorate has the assurance that in this chamber there will be a purposeful, moderating vote which will deny to the Government an avalanche of its silly, socialistic legislation. [More…]
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The Northern Territory, with 36,980 electors, is not equal to one quota on any basis of one vote one value or equality of quotas throughout Australia. [More…]
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For the Northern Territory, with 36,000 electors to send to this place 2 senators and operate with an efficacy of vote one-fifth of the voting power of New South Wales which has 3 million population is just a denial, a defeating, of the fundamental basis upon which the Senate was constructed. [More…]
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If, for the purposes of Territorial representation, representatives of the Territories are to come in here, they certainly cannot be permitted to come in here to diminish the proportionate value of the States’ votes- and that is the inevitable result of this Bill. [More…]
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Therefore any senator who represents the people of his State has, I think a most superficial understanding of the Constitution and really does not represent the purpose of the people of the State if he allows 36,000 people of the Northern Territory to send in here 2 Territorial representatives or senators- one-fifth of the number representing New South Walesand, having regard to the even balance of the Senate, probably to exercise the preponderant vote in the Senate. [More…]
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Whenever I voted against my Government I voted against it because I did not think it was right. [More…]
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I want to say that the people on the other side will not do what I have done, that is, vote against their own Government even if they think their Government is wrong. [More…]
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In fact, concern was expressed at the constitutional discussions that the provision did not preclude such representatives having the right to vote. [More…]
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The people of the District of Columbia should have both a voice and vote in the Congress. [More…]
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I believe that if they apply the right thinking to this legislation they will vote against it. [More…]
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I believe that there is a duty on those who are charged with the responsibility of looking after this chamber as was intended to vote against this legislation. [More…]
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I would have thought that if there is to be a power in the Parliament to give to Territory senators a full vote as ordinary senators the nexus provision could well apply. [More…]
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My recollection is that in only one State was an affirmative vote carried, and that was in New South Wales. [More…]
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If ever there was a bunch of senators which had a clear mandate to vote against the Bills it is the senators from Queensland. [More…]
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If the Senate is to perform its proper role as protector of the States and their people, no-one in this chamber should vote for the passage of these Bills, especially the senators from Queensland who have a mandate to reject them, as I have. [More…]
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I think that the Liberal-Country Party Opposition has interpreted what the people of Australia said in December 1972 and again in May 1974 only by looking, as it were, into every living room in Australia and saying: Look, the Australian people might have voted for the Labor Party on 2 occasions but no, they did not vote for a national health insurance scheme, or they did not vote for Senate representation for the Territories, or they did not vote for electoral reform or for anything else that we happened to dislike. [More…]
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The people voted for the Labor Party, but they did not vote for any of those things! [More…]
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Perhaps one day an Opposition senator will stand up in this chamber and tell us what the people of Australia did vote for. [More…]
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As Senator Cavanagh has suggested, one thing is perfectly clear: The Australian people knew what was going to happen about the health insurance scheme if they voted for the Labor Party. [More…]
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If anything can be said in summary, it is that the people voted for the Labor Party against the Opposition, and they knew the Opposition’s attitude to health insurance and they knew the Labour Party’s attitude. [More…]
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I accept the right of the Parliament to hold a joint sitting and I will abide by the verdict that it reaches, but we will have our say and will vote as our consciences dictate in the meantime. [More…]
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If honourable senators opposite want to think that they have a mandate to try to get their scheme through this chamber let them put this issue to a vote when they are ready and see how strong their mandate is. [More…]
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None of us got here except by the votes of the Australian people. [More…]
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Therefore, as we symbolically discuss these Bills in this House-I say symbolically because there is no real weight in the vote which will be takenthose honourable senators who caused that conflict might reflect on what they have done. [More…]
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I do not think that Senator Young should reflect on Senator Steele Hall in this way because up till now the Opposition has got his vote. [More…]
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The Opposition has Senator Steele Hall’s vote on this. [More…]
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I trust that the honourable senator will lend his voice and his vote to the passage of the trade practices legislation when it once again comes to this chamber from the House of Representatives. [More…]
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That, in the event of an equality of voting, the Chairman, or the Deputy Chairman when acting as Chairman, have a casting vote. [More…]
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That in matters of procedure the Chairman or Deputy Chairman presiding at the meeting have a deliberative vote and, in the event of an equality of voting, have a casting vote, and that, in other matters, the Chairman or Deputy Chairman have a deliberative vote only. [More…]
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That in matters of procedure the Chairman or Deputy Chairman presiding at the meeting have a deliberative vote and, in the event of an equality of voting, have a casting vote, and that, in other matters, the Chairman or Deputy Chairman have a deliberative vote only. [More…]
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That in matters of procedure the Chairman or Deputy Chairman presiding at the meeting have a deliberative vote and in the event of an equality of voting, have a casting vote, and that, in other matters, the Chairman or Deputy Chairman have a deliberative vote only. [More…]
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But let us remember that, although 49.3 per cent of the people voted for the Government at the last election, some 50 per cent or more of the people did not vote directly for the Australian Labor Party. [More…]
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It is a matter of history that the application for an injunction failed and that the Legislative Council of New South Wales was retained by a majority vote of the people. [More…]
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The word ‘reject’ when used in the Parliamentary sense in which those who drafted section 5B used it, conveys to my mind the idea that a Bill has either been taken into consideration by a legislative body and after deliberation upon its merits has been rejected by an adverse vote or that there has been an unqualified refusal to consider it. [More…]
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We have seen 6 referendums in 6 months returned with a ‘ no ‘ vote which is a fairly positive indication, to me anyway, that the people of Australia do not want a lot of extra power to come to this part of Australia. [More…]
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If in doubt, I will vote against such legislation or for measures that delay it until [More…]
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For that reason I find myself in the position of having to vote against the Bill with which I have a great deal of sympathy. [More…]
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I will also vote against the amendment moved by the Opposition. [More…]
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Therefore I will vote against the amendment. [More…]
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I think that a very large majority of South Australians also disagree with that policy, and certainly they show it in the vote that they give Labor in our State. [More…]
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The House has not been informed and honourable senators are expected to vote without that information. [More…]
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My vote does not mean anything as the votes of honourable senators on this side of the House will not mean anything in regard to this Bill. [More…]
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For that reason I intend to vote against the Bill and against the amendment. [More…]
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If this Bill is denied to the Australia people it will be on the responsibility of those who vote against it. [More…]
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No further progress can be made in this matter until this very difficult legal and constitutional question is resolved by the High Court of Australiathe question which we facilitated, by vote in the Senate last year, being put to the High Court. [More…]
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For those reasons alone we would be strongly opposed to the provisions of this Bill; and for those reasons and for the philosophical reasons which I have indicated, the Opposition proposes to vote against it. [More…]
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I will vote against both Bills. [More…]
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Do members of the Australian Labor Party support it, or are they sufficiently interested only to give their votes when the division is called to support their Party’s policy? [More…]
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There will be the fights in the areas outside this chamber, but when the vote has to be taken honourable senators opposite will troop into the chamber and, even on the night when the proceedings of the Senate are being broadcast, without giving the Australian people some idea as to why they are supporting or proposing this Bill they will simply vote in favour of it and remain silent. [More…]
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I might even vote that way. [More…]
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When the defence vote was cut last year it had some effect on the defence factories. [More…]
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I suggest that it would be less than the level of responsibility which has been indicated by the Prime Minister (Mr Whitlam) and the Deputy Prime Minister ( Dr J. F. Cairns), both of whom have been reported as saying that they consider that in the national interest this increase in parliamentary salaries should not be approved, to vote upon the matter today. [More…]
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Under the rules of the Labor Party it is predisposed that every honourable senator of the Labor Party must come in and vote against this disallowance because, even though there is a division in the Labor Party Caucus on this matter at present, unless another Caucus meeting is held the Labor Party, lock, stock and barrel, is committed to the acceptance of these salaries. [More…]
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I only wish that Senator Steele Hall were here at this moment so that he could understand that if he votes with the Labor Party for an urgent debate he is saying to the people of Australia: ‘I will connive, however unwittingly, with the Labor Party to ensure that there can be no rethinking within the Labor Party Caucus. ‘ [More…]
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If he crosses the chamber that is the effect of his vote. [More…]
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If a vote is taken today all 29 honourable senators of the Labor Party are forced by their Caucus decision to vote one way. [More…]
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Of course that is precisely what they are trying to force on themselves so that some Labor senators can go outside and say: ‘Of course, we did not vote for the increased salaries in Caucus but we did not have a chance to re-persuade. ‘ [More…]
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If those honourable senators believe that they ought to persuade the majority in Caucus against this increase they should vote for the standing-over of this debate until Tuesday or Wednesday. [More…]
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Caucus vote and we want to stick to it. [More…]
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Those of us who voted against the decision wish to stick to it because we get the pay and we get the best of all worlds. [More…]
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I am very concerned that we should have the right to make up our minds on the facts, to examine the issues and to come back to this Parliament prepared to have our say and to vote on the issues before us. [More…]
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We have no wish to avoid coming to some kind of a vote in due course. [More…]
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We have never avoided coming to a vote on this kind of thing. [More…]
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Until I am convinced otherwise, it is my intention to vote against the suspension of Standing Orders. [More…]
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If he had an opportunity, on reflection, to gather Caucus together again he might have sufficient influence on the second vote to get his way. [More…]
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So if there is a genuine purpose on the part of those who have said that they had in mind a motion similar to mine, it is surprising to me that they voted for a precipitate debate on this subject. [More…]
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This is one of the unfortunate facts of political life because whenever politicians have determined their own salaries they have always been subjected to Press criticism and to eloquent and appealing speeches by minority groups who, although they oppose the increases, hope to God that they will be defeated in the vote when it is taken. [More…]
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If there is any default in this area, it lies with members ofthe Government who take the same attitude today as that adopted by the Tribunal but who will vote against these recommendations. [More…]
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I was asked this morning how I voted in Caucus on this matter. [More…]
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I reply that what I have said today truly reflects the vote I cast in Caucus. [More…]
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On this or any other occasion when a tribunal makes such recommendations, honourable senators will know how I will vote. [More…]
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One is sent here to vote and one ought to accept one’s responsibility right to the ultimate of even setting one’s own salary. [More…]
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Actually, I thought the politics were put into this by an 11-16 Cabinet vote and bywhat was it?- a 5 1 -60 Caucus vote. [More…]
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But I rather understand that once Government supporters went into the public area all 90 members of Caucus voted against it. [More…]
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I notice that most members of the House of Representatives seem to be saying that they did vote against it. [More…]
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The Opposition will not vote for the disallowance of that. [More…]
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The third motion is in respect of the remuneration payable to officers of the First Div ision of the Public Service and the Opposition will not vote for the disallowance of that. [More…]
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If I had my way, and I have to accept a body opinion just as honourable senators opposite accept a body opinion, I would make this a free vote. [More…]
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Those who feel strongly against it can vote against it and those who want to vote for it can vote for it.’ [More…]
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If somebody wants to propose that and if we have an opportunity to propose it, by all means let us have a vote that way. [More…]
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He can rest assured that I will support that motion through the debate and into the vote. [More…]
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I would have liked to see it settled today but if members here have not yet enough motivation I suggest that they go to their electorates at the weekend and come back and vote on this on Tuesday. [More…]
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The Government would like a vote on this matter tonight. [More…]
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The Leader of the Opposition, Senator Withers, made a great point today of saying that he had warned us on the last occasion that these matters were discussed that we would not escape the wrath of the people and the wrath of the Press by setting up an independent Tribunal, yet he voted for that proposition. [More…]
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That is why, in the Labor Caucus, the vote was fairly evenly divided. [More…]
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But he says that they will vote for the increased salaries for other people covered in the report. [More…]
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What I say to you, Mr President, and to all honourable senators is that we should come to a vote quickly. [More…]
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But as regards this situation, the Labor Party made up its mind, it is true, on a vote which was not carried by a great majority; the majority was fairly substantial, but on many occasions we have been much closer to unanimity than we were on this occasion. [More…]
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If they are honest in their endeavours, if they do not want just to play this staging and this politicking to the nth degree, I suggest that we should proceed to a vote as quickly as is humanly possible. [More…]
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I heard that the Labor Party wanted a vote on this matter tonight, but if it wants me to go on I am quite prepared to stay here. [More…]
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NOW THEREFORE I, Sir John Robert Kerr, the GovernorGeneral of Australia, do by this my Proclamation convene a joint sitting of the members of the Senate and of the House of Representatives, to commence in the House of Representatives Chamber at Parliament House, Canberra at 10.30 o’clock in the morning on 6 August 1974, at which they may deliberate and shall vote together upon each of the said proposed laws as last proposed by the House of Representatives: [More…]
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I ask the Senate to reject the pious amendment that was moved to the motion and to vote for the positive approach in the interests of Australia. [More…]
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Honourable senators opposite tonight will vote against the Bills and will vote in favour of the amendment which seeks to defer consideration of the matters so that they can be examined in the context of the Budget. [More…]
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He stated tonight that he will vote for the amendment. [More…]
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It would seem to me that, if a person agrees that the Post Office must recover its costs, he should say that he will vote with the Government. [More…]
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Is it fair and reasonable to allow 10 days between the closing of nominations and election day; or is the Government doing it for some subtle purpose, so that those who are in the centres of concentrated population will be able to cast their votes very readily and others will not? [More…]
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If so, its great principle of one vote one value will clearly be demonstrated to be lost in the election in the Northern Territory. [More…]
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I hope that Senator Webster will not promise outside this chamber that the members of the Legislative Assembly will be amply rewarded and then, when the Bill to provide for those salaries comes into this chamber, vote against it. [More…]
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The clause gives the Reserve Bank the power to make a determination which by an even vote- 30 all- we did not require to be enforceable. [More…]
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It is a curious thing that I hear that the Government has been confirmed in its original iniquitous intention by a meagre vote of three within a closed Caucus meeting tonight - [More…]
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Whether it depends upon a majority of three in Caucus, and then as a result of the binding vote of Caucus on a mere majority of three in another place, and then when it comes here on an even lesser number which may vary, I still hope that we will be joined by those people who have a closer interest and knowledge of the outlying communities than even I have to determine whether the Government has a policy on this question and what is its position. [More…]
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He pointed out that Senator Brown had been incorrect about when Aborigines got the vote. [More…]
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Senator Brown had said that that if it had not been for Labor Party pressure Aborigines would not have had the vote a few years ago when they did receive it. [More…]
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Phil Pepper said at the meeting that his father had voted in 1908. [More…]
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Senator Brown replied by saying: ‘Look, if Aborigines had a vote in 1908 I will give $1,000 to any charity you like to name. [More…]
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He rang me from Bairnsdale the next morning and I said: ‘I am sure they had a vote a long time ago but I am not sure of the year. [More…]
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In 1855 Aborigines got the vote in Victoria so Senator Brown was a little bit out. [More…]
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Have confirmed that Aborigines have had the vote since 1855 in the State of Victoria and logically from 1901 for Federal elections. [More…]
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It certainly contains no reference to any comment by me about where or when Aborigines did not receive a vote in Victoria and/or Australia. [More…]
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With respect to Victoria the document points out that since the inception of the Constitution of the State of Victoria in 1855 Aborigines have been entitled to enrol and vote in that State although neither enrolment nor voting became compulsory until 1962. [More…]
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However, in 1856 property qualifications were abolished, and all men over 2 1 were given the right to vote in elections for the Assembly although requirements regarding residential qualifications were retained. [More…]
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According to the Victorian Year Book, 1973, this right (of men over 2 1 to vote in Assembly elections) was- effectively restricted by an Act of 1 863 which provided for automatic electoral enrolment of ratepayers and qualification of others (to vote) only by payment of a fee and strict residential requirements.’ [More…]
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The restrictive property qualifications for electors of the Legislative Council were eased in 1 869 and in 1 88 1 such that in 1881 the income or property qualifications necessary to enable a man to vote in Legislative Council elections were: freehold of annual rateable value of 10, or a leasehold originally created for not less than 5 years, or an occupying tenancy of an annual value of 25. [More…]
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These provisions would have excluded many of the less wealthy sections of the population of Victoria (including many Aborigines) from entitlement to vote in Council elections. [More…]
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The only way in which one as an Aboriginal or, for that matter, as a European had an entitlement to vote in a national election was to qualify as an elector ina particular State. [More…]
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Since 1 926 all Aborigines in New South Wales have been entitled to be enrolled and to vote in State elections. [More…]
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Since 1965 Aborigines and Islanders have been able to vote for members of the Legislative Assembly in Queensland. [More…]
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Western Australia: Before 1962 Aborigines with more than 25 per cent Aboriginal blood could not vote unless (s)he held a certificate of citizenship. [More…]
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Although Aborigines were (under the Victorian Constitution of 1855) not excluded from voting in Council and Assembly elections, certain restrictions (requiring electors to be owners, lessees or occupying tenants of property of certain stated values) would have debarred many sections of the population including between 80,000-250,000 gold diggers and presumably many Aborigines, from the right to vote in State elections. [More…]
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Before 1962 only Aborigines entitled to vote in State elections and Aborigines who had served or were serving in the defence forces could vote in Federal elections. [More…]
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Since 1962 all Aborigines and Islanders in Australia have had the right to vote in Federal elections. [More…]
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There was no reference in the newspaper report to my saying anything about where or when Aborigines received a vote. [More…]
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I have been working on this matter since I heard, shortly after 8 o’clock this evening, that there had been a vote in Caucus of 45 to 42 in favour of continuing what I believe is a disastrous policy that will be quite hard in its impact on people who live in decentralised areas in Australia. [More…]
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Entitlement to vote [More…]
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All members, including the member chosen to preside, shall in all cases be entitled to a vote on any question. [More…]
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resolved in the affirmative if, and only if, an absolute majority of the total number of the members of the Senate and House of Representatives vote in the affirmative. [More…]
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On the tellers being appointed, every member within the seats allotted to members shall vote and no member may move from his place until the result of the division is announced. [More…]
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Honour-, able senators have been formally advised that the Governor-General by proclamation has convened a joint sitting of the members of the Senate and of the House of Representatives to commence in the House of Representatives Chamber at Parliament House, Canberra, at 10.30 a.m. on Tuesday, 6 August 1974, at which they may deliberate and vote together upon 6 proposed laws, pursuant to section 57 of the Consitution. [More…]
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The rules further provide that all members, including the member chosen to preside, shall in all cases be entitled to vote on any question. [More…]
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The Chairman does not have a casting vote. [More…]
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The rules go on to provide that the question that any proposed law be affirmed shall be resolved in the affirmative if, and only if, an absolute majority of the total number of the members of the Senate and House of Representatives vote in the affirmative. [More…]
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This suggestion has been put up by one of my colleagues who says that the wording in this amendment is more in accordance with what the Constitution states, lt says that each senator and each member shall have one vote, that is, he shall be entitled to one vote, because we all know that we are entitled to vote. [More…]
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Section 23 of the Constitution provides that each senator shall be entitled to one vote. [More…]
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Each senator and each member of the House of Representatives, including the person chosen to preside, shall have one vote. [More…]
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I presume that we will take a vote on this matter we are discussing now. [More…]
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For that reason I suggest that we should put sub-clauses 4 and 5 to a vote. [More…]
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However, I believe that they are no longer of any consequence and therefore will lapse because, as a result of the vote on the preceding amendment, clauses 5 and 6 were not altered. [More…]
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Liberal Party and Country Party senators will be voting against this legislation and using this vote as an opportunity to express our dissatisfaction with the Government’s method of introducing the scheme. [More…]
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Here is the formula that we are being asked to vote on. [More…]
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I believe that Opposition senators should vote for these Bills if the Government’s major health legislation is confirmed next week. [More…]
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On very many occasions the Leader of the Opposition in this chamber (Senator Withers) and the Leader of the Australian Country Party (Mr Anthony) and the Leader of the Opposition (Mr Snedden) in the other place clearly said to the Australian people: ‘We want to test this Government at the electorate level, and we want the people of Australia to vote and pass judgment’. [More…]
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But the Government must not presume as yet to have won the vote next week. [More…]
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It seems to me to be quite wrong for the Government to proceed in this way and to put honourable senators on this side of the chamber, particularly me, in the position, which I do not like, of having to vote against all these Bills at this time. [More…]
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One questions why the Opposition has adopted the attitude of definite opposition to this measure while at the same time being prepared to vote for it. [More…]
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Law Bills will be aware that the Government decided that its members should exercise a free vote on the Bill. [More…]
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However, the Bill is a Government Bill for the purpose of bringing it on for debate and putting it to the vote, and I will do what I can to see that honourable senators are given an early opportunity to debate the Bill and vote on it accordingly. [More…]
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It is to enshrine the principle of one vote, one value. [More…]
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I invite honourable members and honourable senators to consider how flagrantly the number of voters varies between the different electorates at present. [More…]
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Remember that the greater the variation the more the value of a man’s or woman’s vote is diminished or inflated. [More…]
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In each of these States the quota for an electorate is about 64,000 voters. [More…]
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Yet in New South Wales the enrolment between the largest and smallest electorates varies by 35,000 voters. [More…]
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In Victoria it varies by 38,000 voters. [More…]
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In Queensland it varies by 43,000 voters and in South Australia it varies by 31,000 voters. [More…]
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Throughout Australia and even within particular States some people’s votes are worth 50 per cent more than others- in fact, up to 90 per cent more than others. [More…]
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When Senator McKenna in 1964 and Senator Murphy in 1968 and the honourable member for Grayndler, the father of the Parliament, Mr Daly in 1971 introduced the proposals in private members’ Bills, the Liberal and Country Party Ministers would not allow a vote to be taken upon them. [More…]
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If the so-called democratic elections referendum was passed it would allow electorates to be based not on the number of voters but on the number of people. [More…]
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This represents a fundamental departure from the principle of one vote one value- the only right and proper principle on which to base electoral redistributions. [More…]
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Australia’s electoral system must be based on the underlying principle that the voter has an equal say compared to any of his fellow voters. [More…]
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The fact that an individual lives here or there is not a legitimate reason for over-weighting or diluting the efficacy of his vote. [More…]
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The weight of a citizen’s vote cannot be made to depend on where he lives. [More…]
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A citizen- a qualified voter- is no more or no less so because he lives in the city or on the farm. [More…]
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It affirms the Government’s belief that every person’s vote is of equal value no matter where that person lives. [More…]
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It gives to those who sit in this Parliament at this historic Joint Sitting of this Parliament the opportunity to stand up and be counted, to say whether they believe in these democratic principles and, above all, in the supreme principle of one vote one value. [More…]
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The fundamental test must be one vote one value. [More…]
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We support the principle of one vote one value but the Labor Party does not. [More…]
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The Labor Party put forward a constitutional proposal which would have torpedoed any consideration of the principle of one vote one value. [More…]
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The Labor Party wanted to give votes to people under the voting age and to people who were not citizens by drawing up electorates on the basis of population. [More…]
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If the Labor Party had been allowed to do this it would have created for itself immense political advantage for the Labor Party but would have abandoned the principle of one vote one value. [More…]
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We agree with the principle of one vote one value but what we feel is important is to make it clear that one vote one value means that no sectional or geographical group should ever exert more influence than its numbers warrant. [More…]
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But equally we will adhere to the principle of one vote one value. [More…]
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Excluding that example, the cold mathematical facts are that a vote given a value of one in metropolitan Sydney is worth less than a vote in outback or rural New South Wales where the value is 1.05. [More…]
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In fact the Labor Party holds more seats in this House proportionally than the votes it polled. [More…]
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The Labor Party polled less than 50 per cent of the votes yet it has more than 50 per cent of the seats. [More…]
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It put in the referendum proposal an entirely different concept- to redistribute according to population and not according to voters and not according to the principle of one vote one value. [More…]
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For instance, there is a total denial of all citizen rights in the Upper House of New South Wales, for which nobody has to vote. [More…]
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In local government in elections for city councils most people have no votes and some have 8 votes. [More…]
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The weight of a citizen’s vote cannot be made to depend on where he lives. [More…]
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The overriding objective must be substantial equality of population among the various districts, so that the vote of any citizen is approximately equal in weight to that of any other citizen in the State. [More…]
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This was supposed to be the introduction of the principle of one vote one value. [More…]
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To this end, we intend to amend the law so that, as far as may be practicable, the value of the vote of one citizen shall be equivalent to the vote of another. [More…]
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The Labor Party claims that it is dedicated to the concept of one vote one value. [More…]
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The Labor Party is not dedicated to the concept of one vote one value. [More…]
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That does not mean that they would have the same number of voters. [More…]
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In fact, using the 1971 census as a basis, the Prime Minister would have had in his electorate 46,000 electors, whereas some of the large country electorates would have had 70,000 voters. [More…]
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So the concept of one vote one value which the Government is putting up is a phoney one. [More…]
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Mr Malcolm Mackerras, who is a gentleman well known to honourable members and honourable senators as an expert in electoral matters, said that a redrawing of electoral boundaries on the basis of that referendum ‘would result in the greatest departure from the principle of one vote one value ever seen in the history of House of Representatives elections’. [More…]
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I ask why senators and members really want to change the present electoral laws when the Labor Party won the last election with 49.3 per cent of the vote and gained 52 per cent of the seats in the House of Representatives. [More…]
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Why does the Minister who is in charge of this legislation not mention that in his electorate- that tiny city electorate- he has 6,000 fewer voters than I have in my electorate? [More…]
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Both sides say that they believe in equal representation, in one vote one value, but then go on to give their different interpretations. [More…]
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I interpose to point out that he mentioned the Electoral Bill: decided to vote against it. [More…]
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Whilst it is somewhat difficult for new members of the Parliament to vote according to that premise, because they did not have a hand in causing the double dissolution, I believe that former members of the Parliament who have been returned certainly should support the result of this Joint Sitting. [More…]
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I am pleased to say that there are many country districts in South Australia which are now accepting the view that there should be equal value through one vote one value. [More…]
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In the recent byelection which was held to fill the vacancy created when I became a member of the Senate, the Liberal Movement won the State seat on a policy of one vote one value in one of the more conservative country areas in South Australia. [More…]
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Our purpose is to maintain, as far as is practicable and fair, the principle of one vote, one value. [More…]
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He went on to say: 1 believe there is a principle of equal, if not greater importance than the mechanical theoretical principle of one vote one value, and that is the principle of equality of representation. [More…]
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I wonder how many Liberals there are who will sit subjugated on the Opposition side when the vote is taken today. [More…]
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I will vote, if I can move very briefly aside for the moment, against the other measures which the Government will present to this Joint Sitting and that, Mr Chairman, is not because of any particular views held by people on your left. [More…]
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I will certainly vote for this Bill and the two other allied electoral Bills. [More…]
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The other thing he told me all his life as we went along on polling days was this: Remember the great Labor principle- vote early and vote often’. [More…]
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The simple fact of life is that the Labor Party is not prepared to settle for 52 per cent of the seats for 49 per cent of the vote; it wants a Western Australian situation- the first redistribution carried out by a Labor Party Government since 1948. [More…]
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The Labor Party got 46 per cent of the vote and it almost got 60 per cent of the seats. [More…]
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As I said, Labor Party policy is to vote early and vote often. [More…]
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As I said before, at the last general election the Australian Labor Party polled 49.3 per cent of the primary vote and obtained 5 1.96 per cent of the parliamentary seats. [More…]
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The simple fact of life is that what the Australian Labor Party wants is 52 per cent of the parliamentary seats for about 45 per cent of the votes. [More…]
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As far as I am concerned, it is still a bad Bill and I intend to vote against it. [More…]
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The value of one vote of one citizen is no longer equivalent to the vote of a citizen in another part of the country. [More…]
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A political party like the Country Party which rarely receives more than about 10 per cent of the votes of the Australian people has a disproportionate influence on the welfare of this nation. [More…]
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He did not say that a Tory Upper House which Senator Withers supports was all that stopped him from adopting the principle of one vote one value. [More…]
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Senator Withers spoke of” raising the dead and of the need to vote early and often. [More…]
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Looking at a few members of the Liberal Party I reckon that they have some dead votes and that if there were more cemeteries in their electorates a few of them would not be here. [More…]
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We on this side of the Parliament believe that electorates should be equal, that one vote should have one value and that no person’s vote should be worth more than that of another person, regardless of whether he lives in a city or country area. [More…]
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The weight of a citizen’s vote cannot be made to depend on where he lives. [More…]
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On having a good look at the Country Party, I think a few sheep have a vote. [More…]
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The Australian Country Party, which is fighting so vigorously against these proposals, as Senator Steele Hall and others have said today, have never polled more then 10.9 per cent of the total vote but has exercised a parliamentary vote of between 16 per cent and 17 per cent and a ministerial influence of more than 20 per cent in Cabinets. [More…]
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On 18 May last the Country Party polled 10.7 per cent of the votes. [More…]
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This Bill gives to this historic Joint Meeting of the Australian Parliament the opportunity to give expression to the democratic principle that a person’s vote is of equal value no matter where he is domiciled and whatever his class, creed or occupation. [More…]
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As the Leader of the Opposition has effectively pointed out, the real test of equitable electoral legislation is that the party which receives the majority of the votes should also receive the majority of the seats. [More…]
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At that time in respect of the House of Representatives the present Government polled 49.3 per cent of the formal votes and received 5 1 .96 per cent of the seats in the new Parliament. [More…]
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In fact when the vote is expressed as a ratio of the percentage of seats to the percentage of votes the result slightly favours the Labor Party. [More…]
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In the fourth paragraph, when he was talking about the referendum concerning democratic elections, he said: This represents a fundamental departure from the principle of one vote one value- the only right and proper principle on which to base electoral redistribution. [More…]
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Will the Prime Minister consider reintroducing last year’s Commonwealth Electoral Bill so that those members who support the principle of one vote one value for the first time, such as the Leader of the Opposition, can vote to have his principle enshrined in our electoral law? [More…]
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The fact is that the Opposition now has a chance to put its vote where its Leader’s words were, but we all know what will happen. [More…]
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This question will be decided on the numbers of the Government against those of the Opposition, with the single exception of the vote of Senator Hall. [More…]
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Is there any logic in saying that a vote in Darling ought to be worth 8 times a vote in Mallee? [More…]
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They can then service their constituents and not come into this House with a weighted vote which goes against every principle of democratic elections which we hold dear in Australia. [More…]
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Much has been made this morning of the statement that the Australian Labor Party received only 49 per cent of the vote but 52 per cent of the seats in the last election. [More…]
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But when we look at the preferred vote- after all our system is of a preferential nature- we find that the situation is completely different. [More…]
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On the preferred vote the Australian Labor Party, which sits in the House of Representatives as the Government, had much more than 50 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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The combined vote of the Country Party, the Liberal Party and the Democratic Labor Party over Australia, is very much less than 50 per cent of the total. [More…]
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In fact of the total votes polled, the Australian Labor Party polled about 250,000 more than the combined votes of the Liberal Party, the Country Party and the Democratic Labor Party. [More…]
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But what we are discussing and what this Bill puts before the Parliament is whether we will so organise our electorates that every person at voting age will have his vote weighed equally, not in the way which has happened in the past. [More…]
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Gladstone once said: ‘Do our opponents believe in counting votes or weighing them?’ [More…]
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It is where one gets the weighing of votes to suit a series of areas. [More…]
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It allows for one person one vote. [More…]
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It is a most important part of our democratic structure that governments should be elected on the basis of one person one vote. [More…]
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With modern travel there is absolutely no reason why we should weigh the vote of country electors more than city electors, because country members are more in contact with their constituents. [More…]
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But there are very good reasons why we should pass a law which will enable the principle of one person one vote to be enshrined in the legislation used to decide what members are to represent the various areas of Australia. [More…]
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I support the Bill and suggest to honourable members opposite that they should change their minds and vote with the Government on this issue. [More…]
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I recall that the Government put before the Senate two different Bills, the present Bill and another which was totally at variance with the concept of one vote one value. [More…]
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The Minister said that the Country Party received only 10.6 per cent of the total vote in Victoria. [More…]
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It obtained more than 50 per cent of the vote for the seats it contested. [More…]
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The Government of the day had a redistribution which resulted in the Labor Government gaining 42 seats in the Parliament with 46 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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Forty-eight per cent of the vote gave the Liberal and Country parties 31 seats. [More…]
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The Labor Government has said repeatedly that the value of the vote of one citizen should be equivalent to the value of the vote of another. [More…]
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With the 20 per cent variation in the quota, the average number of voters in country electorates is lower than the average number of voters in city electorates. [More…]
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So what the Labor Government is saying is that it is wrong for a country vote to have a greater mathematical value than a city vote. [More…]
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During this debate we have heard a great deal about the concept of one vote one value, but no speaker on the Government side of the chamber has made a prediction as to what difference this reduction in percentage variation will make to country areas. [More…]
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-Mr Chairman, so far this debate has been quite notorious because so many speakers have spoken in favour of the principles of one vote one value but at the same time have expressed their intention to vote against the principle which they have espoused. [More…]
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‘Vote early and vote often’ was another message he gave us. [More…]
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In those circumstances it is even more essential that every citizen’s vote should have equal value. [More…]
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It took a massive vote to shift them off the perch or to move them off the throne. [More…]
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It has been argued in this Parliament in the past that there has never been an occasion when the party with the majority of votes has not had the majority of seats. [More…]
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1 per cent of the vote and the Liberal and Country Parties received 47 per cent; but the Liberal and Country Parties remained in government. [More…]
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In 1961 the Australian Labor Party received 47.99 per cent of the vote and the Liberal and Country Parties received 41.98 per cent; but the Liberal and Country Parties continued to govern. [More…]
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In 1 969 the Australian Labor Party received 46.95 per cent of the vote and the Liberal and Country Parties received 43.3 per cent; yet the Liberal and Country Parties continued to govern. [More…]
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In 1 972 the Australian Labor Party gained 49.59 per cent of the primary votes and 41.48 per cent of the primary votes went to the Liberal and Country Parties. [More…]
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It took that proportion of the primary votes to change the government and put the category A boys in their place. [More…]
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I believe that every person who believes in the democratic concept will vote for it. [More…]
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With one exception the party that got the majority of votes formed the Government, and that is the real test. [More…]
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Indeed, at the last election on 18 May I thought the Labor Government was pretty lucky because with less than 50 per cent of the vote it got about 52 per cent of the number of seats. [More…]
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The vote of each person right across the country should be equal. [More…]
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We heard a diatribe about what a dreadful thing it would be if we had to go back to the position of one vote one value and that the Labor Party would be in office for a long time. [More…]
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If country people only realised that the Country Party could never form a government they would vote its members right out of office. [More…]
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In the present situation, the Labor Party can poll 5 or 6 per cent or more of the votes than the Opposition Parties but can only obtain a narrow majority. [More…]
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We should come back to the principle on which the Constitution was founded and pass this legislation in order to make sure that when the people vote for candidates there is an equal opportunity for each political party to form a government. [More…]
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It does not say that these are the ways people must vote. [More…]
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The whole purpose of this legislation is not the cause of one vote one value, as so righteously claimed by those who sit on the Government side. [More…]
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The attitude of the Australian Labor Party to the principle of one vote one value is clearly demonstrated by the words of the Prime Minister (Mr Whitlam) that have been quoted already today. [More…]
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The Prime Minister then submitted to the Distribution Commissioners that an extra 4,000 voters should be taken from the seat of Prospect and added to the seat of Reid. [More…]
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The upshot of that would have been a further move away from the principle of one vote one value because the Prime Minister’s proposal would have increased the electorate of Prospect from 3.68 per cent to 1 1 per cent below the quota and would have made the electorate of Reid 16.82 per cent above the quota. [More…]
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That is the real attitude of the Labor Party to the principle of one vote one value. [More…]
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He always used to talk about the principle of one vote one value. [More…]
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Now, for some reason the Minister for Services and Property, who is sitting at the table, is trying to tell us that by reducing the variation from 20 per cent to 10 per cent we have reached the great state of one vote one value. [More…]
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-This afternoon during this debate we have heard speakers from the Opposition side refer to the great esteem they have for the principle of one vote one value. [More…]
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But as speakers from this side of the House have often reminded the Opposition parties, so far only one member from that side had indicated that he is prepared to vote in accordance with the principles that he espouses in this chamber. [More…]
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We will see within the next hour or so that his vote will support it. [More…]
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Several Liberal senators might not vote on the Bill . [More…]
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Of course, we found that they were forced by the Country Party to toe the Une, and they did vote on the Bill. [More…]
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The Government says, through its speakers here today and elsewhere , that it is really providing one vote one value. [More…]
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It is a sham to say that this Bill or any similar Bill would provide truly for one vote one value. [More…]
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It has not told us whether we will there have a true one vote one value or how Aborigines will be treated. [More…]
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We have not heard whether the redistribution will be on a basis of population or on a basis of voters. [More…]
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He would wish to be able to denigrate the Senate in carrying out its constitutional function which has just been reinforced by the people of Australia in a fully democratic vote. [More…]
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Some of the articles contained therein are ‘The Best Vote for Years’ by Bob Southey; ‘How I Lost, Drew and Won Stirling’ by Ian Viner; ‘What’s So Different About Queensland?’ [More…]
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People stood here and accused him of not bringing in the principle of one vote one value. [More…]
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How could he bring in the principal of one vote one value in the Upper House in South Australia that was controlled by the conservatives with a majority of 16 to 4? [More…]
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After the South Australian elections in 1968, when the Labor Party received almost 54 per cent of the votes but were defeated in government, 20,000 people marched from the parade grounds in Adelaide to Light Square to demonstrate against the iniquitous electoral system that operated in that State. [More…]
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In 9 elections held under Sir Thomas Playford ‘s Government, Labor won the majority of votes in 8 elections but it never governed during that period. [More…]
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The Minister for Services and Property (Mr Daly) glibly repeats the phrase ‘one vote one value ‘. [More…]
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To me one vote one value means just that. [More…]
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But the moment the Minister refers to a 10 per cent variation, that is the end of one vote one value. [More…]
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If we are to have one vote one value, that is it. [More…]
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There have been 11 elections since 1949, and in 10 out of 1 1 cases the Government of the day has gained a greater percentage of the vote than has the Opposition. [More…]
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In 1949 the then Liberal-Country Party coalition beat the Labor Party by 21/2 per cent of the vote; in 1 95 1 , by 2 per cent; and in 1 954,I admit, the Australian Labor Party beat our vote by 4 per cent. [More…]
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In 1974 the Australian Labor Parry’s vote slipped back and it beat us by 2.3 per cent. [More…]
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That the ALP gained power in 1972 with 49.71 per cent of the vote and held power in 1974 with 49.3 per cent of the vote indicates that the system is not as the Government attempts to make it out to be and is not loaded against the ALP Government as it would like the people to believe. [More…]
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It needed only 11 more votes in one seat in that State, as my friend the honourable member for Stirling (Mr Viner) can confirm, and it would have won 60 per cent of the seats on 46 per cent of the State vote. [More…]
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This will shall be expressed in periodic and genuine elections which shall be by universal and equal suffrage, and shall be held by secret vote or by equivalent free voting procedures. [More…]
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The American Constitution did not allow the Territories to send members to Congress but simply permitted the Territories to send delegates to Congress who could speak but not vote. [More…]
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Concepts of one vote one value have not influenced the Australian Labor Party to deny that overrepresentation to the Australian Capital Territory. [More…]
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That explains why the Opposition parties will vote against both of these Bills. [More…]
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If, for example, one looks at the quotas which senators have to achieve to be elected in the States of New South Wales and Victoria at a periodic half Senate election, and then looks at what would be required to elect a senator from the Territories one will have not only a remarkable admiration for the dexterity with which the one vote one value principle can be espoused and then denied by members of the Labor Party, but also a picture of how unjust the representation would be. [More…]
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In 1970- the figures would be greater now, of course- a person required almost 300,000 votes to be elected as a senator in New South Wales. [More…]
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In Victoria he required almost 225,000 votes. [More…]
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But to be elected a senator for the Australian Capital Territory all that would have been required in 1973 was 28,000 votes and to be elected a senator from the Northern Territory all that would have been required was 10,600 votes. [More…]
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Where is the one vote one value principle of the Labor Party in that concept? [More…]
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I can only say, to make point of what I have been stating, that in 1969 the Liberal Party secured 22.8 per cent of the vote in the Australian Capital Territory. [More…]
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In 1972 the Liberal Party secured 26 per cent of the votes and again the result would have been the same and members of the Labor Party know this. [More…]
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Of course, in 1974 when in so many significant parts of the country the dangers of a continuing Labor Government were recognised the Liberal Party vote swelled to a much higher percentage. [More…]
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Nevertheless, I am confident, the belief of the Labor Party is that by the distribution of Government largesse and by the exercise of patronage the necessary votes can be secured. [More…]
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It is in denial of the one vote one value principle, which was the kernel of their support for the previous measure. [More…]
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How can there be one vote one value when 28,000 votes in the Northern Territory will elect one senator and 300,000 votes are required to elect one senator in New South Wales. [More…]
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It is a denial of the one vote one value principle and it is the Labor Party which is putting up this proposal. [More…]
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Honourable members should remember that the Government of the day in 1968 refused the right of that Bill to go to a vote. [More…]
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When members of the Opposition meet in their party room, do they vote as senators from Tasmania, Victoria or Western Australia? [More…]
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It cares nothing for the principle of one vote one value. [More…]
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That additional representation is to be two in number irrespective of the number of persons at this stage on the electoral roll and able to vote for members of the House of Representatives. [More…]
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I rather thought he would be most apprehensive after the allegation which he has made about people who have been validly elected to a corporation which was established by vote in this chamber and, in the electoral process. [More…]
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The honourable member is suggesting that senators are voted for in anything but a regular fashion. [More…]
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The nonsense that this Government is perpetuating in this Bill is that whereas a moment ago it suggested one vote one value it is now saying that one vote one value means nought. [More…]
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It is for that reason that I intend again to vote against it. [More…]
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I believe that if honourable senators and members- even those few on the Government side who think sanely and sensibly about the implications of this legislation- genuinely believe that the statement of Edmund Burke that bad laws make for the worst form of government should not be seen to be repeated by the Government in this Parliament, they should cast their votes against this measure. [More…]
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If they were entitled to vote as part of South Australia then they were automatically entitled to vote to send representatives to both Houses of this Parliament. [More…]
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They had no right even to vote in referenda which proposed changes to the Constitution. [More…]
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He could take part in debates but he could not vote on any matter. [More…]
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Under section 122 of the Constitution machinery is laid down for giving all electors of the Commonwealth a vote in choosing a representative for both Houses of the Parliament. [More…]
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What do people from overseas think when they go to the Alice Springs district and they are told that the people who live in this international tourist resort do not have a representative voice in the Senate and that they cannot even vote in referenda which propose changes in the Constitution. [More…]
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He bitterly opposed the people of the Northern Territory being allowed to vote on proposals to alter the Constitution. [More…]
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To save his skin, he gave notice last week that he would introduce a private member’s Bill which would give the people of the Northern Territory a vote in referendums. [More…]
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This magnificent Opposition, as it is now, did not allow these Bills to go to a vote. [More…]
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They went to the second reading stage, but the then Government would not allow them to go to a vote because the vote of the honourable member for the Northern Territory would be registered against the proposal. [More…]
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No doubt he would be very quick to point out that on 29 May 1973 each member of the Country Party in the House of Representatives voted for the Senate (Representation of Territories) Bill. [More…]
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In the Senate the Country Party voted against it. [More…]
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Speaker after speaker, including the Leader of the Country Party and the honourable member for New England (Mr Sinclair), the Deputy Leader of the Country Party, got up and opposed giving the people of the Northern Territory a vote for Senate representation. [More…]
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There is a word for these sorts of people who get up and speak- as they have done- and refuse to give the people of the Northern Territory a vote in the Senate but at the same time refuse to record their names in division so that it can be seen where they stand. [More…]
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They were not allowed to go to a vote. [More…]
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We on this side of the Parliament look with great pride to when this vote will be taken, because when the vote is taken we will see a majority of votes- as is needed under the Constitution- in this Joint Sittingto give the people of the Northern Territory the just rights for which they have been fighting since 1911. [More…]
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Every member on this side of the House will be watching the performance of the honourable member for the Northern Territory to see which way he votes. [More…]
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If he is loyal to his own Party in this Parliament he will vote with the Country Party. [More…]
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Do not let him be absent from the chamber when the vote is taken. [More…]
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Let him cast his vote as we know he will cast it. [More…]
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We on this side of the Parliament, when it comes to a vote - (Opposition members interjecting)- [More…]
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Indeed, one of the aspirants for the Ministry who missed by one vote, I understandSenator James McClelland- in the debate on 17 July, said: [More…]
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If the Government were truly seeking representation for the Northern Territory and the Australian Capital Territory it would recognise what we did, that is, encourage them and change their representation in this Parliament so that their representatives vote on all matters and not merely on Northern Territory and Australian Capital Territory matters; it would propose and support other propositions for their development and it would not bring in this form of piecemeal legislation. [More…]
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The other argument that I have located is that the election of Territory senators would be anomalous and that they would vote according to sectional and regional interests. [More…]
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We are told that they would not vote with a national outlook. [More…]
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Of course, the fact is that senators vote in the Senate as they do in the House of Representatives, that is, on Party lines. [More…]
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Let me come to the great cry, the clarion call, that came from the Government benches this afternoon- one vote one value. [More…]
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when I mention one vote one value. [More…]
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Why is it that they press upon the Parliament and the people this argument for 2 senators from the Northern Territory and 2 senators from the Australian Capital Territory when the Australian Capital Territory has approximately four times the numbers of voters on its roll as are on the Northern Territory roll? [More…]
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The vote of one senator from the Northern Territory will have precisely the same voting strength as that of the distinguished and gallant senator from New South Wales, Senator Sir Kenneth Anderson. [More…]
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Just as a matter of arithmetic, what justice is to be found in these figures: 240,000 Tasmanian voters elect 15 representatives to the national Parliament; 95,000 Canberra voters elect 2 representatives to the national Parliament; and 30,000 Northern Territorians elect one representative to the national Parliament? [More…]
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We have been constantly twitted on what the Opposition appears to regard as some great logical inconsistency: that what we are putting up in this Bill represents some sort of departure from the principle of one vote one value which guides us in these things. [More…]
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What is the implication in the denial by the Opposition of a right to vote for the Senate to those numbers I have mentioned? [More…]
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What members opposite are saying is that, so far as the Senate is concerned, 100,000 votes in the ACTU should have no value. [More…]
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On this very Bill some Opposition senators voted differently from their colleagues in the House of Representatives. [More…]
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It will be recalled that when the motion for the second reading of the Bill was agreed to by the House of Representatives on 29 May 1973 it was carried by 78 votes to 43 votes. [More…]
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Seventeen members of the Country Party crossed the floor and voted with the Government, the other 3 members of the Country Party being absent when the vote was taken. [More…]
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Yet, when the vote on the motion for the second reading of the Bill was taken in the Senate all 5 [More…]
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While the Senate has constitutional authority and I have power to persuade in the country, I wil use my vote in the Senate to establish the right of the people who voted for me. [More…]
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So it is not a case now of one vote one value; it is a case where, with all the wisdom of the Caucus on petrol price equalisation schemes and so on, and with all the genius of Caucus to keep down interest rates and provide decent economic housing, they might need a little assistance. [More…]
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That is why, instead of allowing them to have their little gerrymanders in the several States in order to divide the Molonglo or the Yarra or the hills of Sydney, they gave us in the Senate a chamber where State boundaries are the discrimen and the people of the States vote as one. [More…]
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We talk about one vote one value. [More…]
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The Northern Territory has about 40,000 voters. [More…]
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He reminded me of all the campaigns in history and of all the occasions on which people have opposed every attempt to change any social situation- from putting the Plimsoll line on ships to the 40-hour week, to giving people the vote at 21, to giving women the vote at all and to the roads of ruin of which politics are always so full. [More…]
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All of us here know that in the politics of confrontation we do come to vote one side against the other. [More…]
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Having set the stage, Senate representation and, for that matter, a vote in a referendum for Territorians, has been on my platform for the Northern Territory since 1966, but reservedly. [More…]
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By all means let electors in the Australian Capital Territory have a vote in referendums. [More…]
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The people of Australia did not fall for it so there went our chance to get a vote in a referendum. [More…]
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At least I have introduced a Bill to give the people in the Northern Territory and the Australian Capital Territory a vote in a referendum without having strings tied to it. [More…]
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It happened one day in 1968 when I was successful in obtaining a vote for the member for the Northern Territory. [More…]
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When the then Prime Minister, Mr Gorton, said in effect in this place that he would grant the member for the Northern Territory a vote the then Leader of the Opposition looked like some sort of mullet just out of the water. [More…]
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I thought that perhaps at this late hour, as the honourable member for the Northern Territory, he would have thrown some light on some of the curious performances that we have seen coming from his colleagues with regard the entitlements of the Australian people to vote. [More…]
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I thought that as the member for the Northern Territory he might have been able to explain to us how it is that when the Opposition approaches the voting rights of those people who are entitled to a vote it says that their electorates should be gerrymandered, and when it comes to the voting entitlements of those people who are not entitled to vote it says they should not be able to vote at all. [More…]
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Ultimately we found that Mr Calder indicated an intention to cross the floor to vote with us, but not without a valiant effort to get himself thrown out of this Joint Sitting by deliberately provoking the Chair, by deliberately acting in such a way that in any other sitting, if we had not had such a tolerant Acting Chairman as you, Sir, he would have been ejected from the chamber. [More…]
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Of course, he wanted to be ejected from the chamber so that he would not have to cross the floor and vote with us and go back and answer to the people of the Northern Territory as to why he had repeatedly betrayed them in the Parliament. [More…]
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We believe that it is intolerable that any Australian, wherever he may live, whatever his ethnic origin or whatever his educational standard may be, should be deprived of the right to vote in the election of the Parliament of the Australian people. [More…]
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Did they not repeatedly inside the Parliament vote against the member for the Northern Territory having a vote in the House of Representatives until the Country Party gained a member from the Northern Territory? [More…]
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Did they not down the years, when the Australian Labor Party proposed that a vote should be given to the Northern Territory, deny the right of the people of the Northern Territory to have a vote? [More…]
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The first member for the Northern Territory was elected in 1922, and until 1936 he had no vote in the House of Representatives. [More…]
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-The honourable member for Gippsland asks: ‘Who gave the vote?’ [More…]
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It did not suit its case when it was arguing this afternoon in relation to one vote one value, but it does suit its case now that it is talking about Senate representation. [More…]
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This will mean and should mean, in effect, that anyone who receives about 34 per cent of the vote in either of those Territories should win a seat. [More…]
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On the first occasion it was presented to the Parliament the Country Party voted for it. [More…]
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On the last occasion the Country Party managed to talk out the time allotted for consideration of the legislation so that it would not come to a vote. [More…]
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I make an appeal to Senator Hall, who I understand is to oppose these Bills but who then by some curious system of logic, after these Bills are passed by the sheer weight of numbers, will sacrifice the principle on which he opposes these Bills and vote for the enabling Bills when they are introduced. [More…]
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-Mr Chairman, section 57 of the Constitution provides that where the requirements for a joint sitting have been satisfied the sitting shall vote but may deliberate; that is, it need not necessarily deliberate on the proposed laws put before it. [More…]
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The fact of the matter is that if these Bills are passed, as the march of numbers means they will be, it is certain that every man sitting on the Government side of the chamber who votes for them will rue the day, because it is an absolute certainty that each generation will pass on its achievements or its failures. [More…]
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If this health scheme goes through, this generation will be passing on a vast failure and those who vote for it will regret it. [More…]
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In my opinion, a vote against this Bill is a vote against the rights of good health of one million Australians who are uninsured. [More…]
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Although we have been regarded as obstructing the wish of the Australian Government to introduce its health scheme, I believe that I represent the people of Victoria who have elected me to this place, and I assure them that it will not be my vote that will enable a nationalised health scheme to be introduced into this country. [More…]
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I hope that with the health Bills all Queensland senators will vote together, as they have been clearly instructed to do, and reject them. [More…]
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The Senate reaffirmed this point of view by taking a vote on an amendment that this Bill be not allowed to proceed. [More…]
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That amendment was defeated by an equal vote. [More…]
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Having again achieved a mandate we are now engaged in this first historic sitting of this Joint Parliament and honourable senators and honourable members are to be asked to vote on this Bill. [More…]
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We all know that a favourable vote on the motion which will be put at the end of this sitting tonight will not see the Bill in the clear. [More…]
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To hunt, and vote and raise the price of corn. [More…]
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He will find that not one electorate which has a mining centre in it did anything but considerably lower the vote of those candidates who stood for the Australian Labor Party. [More…]
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It is quite a remarkable thing that in the electorate of Kalgoorlie there was a tremendous swing in votes against a man who was highly regarded in that area but who had one great burden to carry. [More…]
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As for Representative Katter’s concern about royalties in mining communities, I have been advised by Representative Fitzpatrick that he obtained 75 per cent of the vote in Cobar; so that refutes his stupid reasoning. [More…]
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I have a rather sneaking suspicion that when the vote is taken later this evening it will be carried and the legislation will become law. [More…]
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The Minister and his followers behind him are like ‘greyhounds in the slips straining upon the start’- sorry, the vote and the finish. [More…]
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Let the vote be taken. [More…]
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Nor, for acceptance of the amalgamation, will there be a requirement that SO per cent plus one of the members must vote nor that SO per cent plus one of those voting must favour the proposed amalgamation. [More…]
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But I observe in passing that the Opposition feels that it has a responsibility to say to the Senate that if the proposal in the amendment is not agreed to we will feel that we have no alternative other than to vote against the 2 Bills in protest. [More…]
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On 29 November 1 973 the Senate, by a majority vote, referred the 2 Bills to the Senate Select Committee on Foreign Ownership and Control for investigation and report back to the Senate not later than 12 March 1974. [More…]
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I reiterate to the Senate- Senator Cotton has made it perfectly clear here today and Mr Anthony has made it perfectly clear before- that, if the Government and Senator Hall are not prepared to be reasonable in this matter and are not prepared to accept this perfectly reasonable amendment, we will vote against both Bills. [More…]
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I would suggest, in view of our heavy work load and the time factor, that this Bill now go to the vote. [More…]
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Yet despite the fact that in another place the Liberal Party-Country Party Opposition said it supported the trade practices legislation in principle, and despite the fact that the Deputy Leader of the Opposition (Senator Greenwood) has said in the Senate this afternoon that the Opposition will vote for the second reading of this Bill, the attitude of the Opposition parties clearly is one of love-hate. [More…]
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They hate this legislation but they have not got the courage to vote against it on the second reading. [More…]
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Senator WITHERS (Western AustraliaLeader of the Opposition)- by leave- I understand why Senator Douglas McClelland said what he has said, but I think that the sooner we get to a vote on this matter the better. [More…]
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Therefore I suggest that we should take a vote as soon as possible on the motion that the debate be now adjourned. [More…]
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I trust that we can have a vote on this motion at an early time so that the Senate can deal with the matter which will be proposed by Senator Durack. [More…]
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I state clearly on behalf of the people who have elected me why I will vote against the Opposition’s motion if it is taken to a vote. [More…]
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I believe the Opposition should not take it to the vote. [More…]
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If it is taken to a vote I will vote against it because the Opposition has not supported it with facts. [More…]
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It is strange that they should require, insist and demand that the Minister for Foreign Affairs, who is able to perform his duties in his usual efficient manner to the satisfaction of all, abandon his place of work and the place where his vote is critical and fly across to Perth. [More…]
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Senator Wright certainly speaks from a very well qualified base when he talks of disruptive tactics because he certainly used his vote yesterday to disrupt very important legislation and he continues his disruptive tactics today in his many sided argument. [More…]
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I say this to Senator Hall: I receive no instructions from anyone and I always vote in this chamber according to what I think. [More…]
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Does anyone imagine that the conduct that will lead to proceedings for contravention of clause 46 will not be basically as a result of decisions taken at the board table where directors will vote on the action to be taken and those directors will have different ideas in their respective minds? [More…]
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I am a supporter of their enterprises, and I vote for this clause. [More…]
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The Government will vote against this amendment if it is persisted with. [More…]
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It is opposed to the inclusion of these clauses in the Bill and will vote against the Part. [More…]
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For those reasons we propose to vote against the whole of Part V. [More…]
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The right of every Australian citizen to vote at a National Referendum or Senate or Federal Elections for the retention of our present Australian Flag and equally of our national anthem, ‘God Save The Queen’, before any government or other body can attempt to substitute either a new flag or anthem, and a similar voting right for the choice of any official National Song to play on international occasions. [More…]
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The right of every Australian citizen to vote at a national referendum or Senate or Federal elections for the retention of our present Australian Flag and equally of our national anthem, ‘God Save The Queen’, before any government or other body can attempt to substitute either a new flag or anthem, and a similar voting right for the choice of any official National Song to play on international occasions. [More…]
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In the event of an equality of voting, the Chairman, or the Deputy-Chairman when acting as Chairman, shall have a casting vote. [More…]
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A Senator, though not a member of a Committee, may attend and participate in its deliberations, and question witnesses, unless the Committee orders otherwise, but shall not vote. [More…]
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Honourable senators opposite are saying that because there are some areas we cannot touch therefore they will vote against the legislation. [More…]
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But I foreshadow that my vote will be against the Bill if the adjournment of the debate, until 17 September, which I shall move, is not agreed to. [More…]
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I will support Senator Townley ‘s motion for the reason that it is obvious, as he has stated categorically, that he will vote against the Bill if it is presented now, and it will be lost if the debate proceeds. [More…]
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So whilst I, and I am willing to vote on the measure, as I am sure are a lot of others, I understand Senator Townley ‘s pressure of work, and rather than vote for a procedure - [More…]
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I understood from what Senator Townley said earlier that he desired to vote for the second reading of this Bill and the previous Bill. [More…]
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Before this matter is put to a vote- and I hope that my leader, Senator Withers, is given the time for which he has asked- I think it should be pointed out that we are taken a little by surprise because we had intended, according to a motion moved earlier this day, to deal with the trade practices legislation. [More…]
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If it has the numbers, it carries this against the protests and against the vote of the Opposition. [More…]
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It would be unfair, I think, to Senator Townley to vote on this amendment without fully convincing himself of the consequences. [More…]
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I would have thought that every person in this land who has an interest in and a sense of responsibility to the local government institution would have gone out on the hustings then and said: ‘For heaven’s sake vote for this measure, if you are not going to vote for any other. [More…]
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An Australian citizen permanently domiciled outside Australia is not entitled to enrol for a Division nor is he entitled to vote at Federal elections. [More…]
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The right of every Australian citizen to vote at a National Referendum or Senate or Federal Elections for the retention of our present Australian Flag and equally of our national anthem, ‘God Save The Queen’, before any government or other body can attempt to substitute either a new flag or anthem, and a similar voting right for the choice of any official National Song to play on international occasions. [More…]
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Australia’s position was made clear, for example, at the Diplomatic Conference on International Humanitarian Law, when our representative in a statement accompanying his vote regretted on behalf of the Government that the question before the conference had been posed as a choice between participation as a state and non-participation. [More…]
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The present intention is that on any substantive resolution Australia should vote for retention of the seat by the government with which we have relations, namely the Government of the Khmer Republic, but that we should not support any procedural move or delaying device aimed at preventing the issue being aired and voted on. [More…]
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We knew long before Senator Townley came into the chamber how he would vote on this and many other questions. [More…]
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The better informed we are, the better we will be able to exercise a free vote on it. [More…]
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8 ) In the event of an equality of voting, the Chairman, or the Deputy-Chairman when acting as Chairman, shall have a casting vote. [More…]
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10) A Senator, though not a member of a Standing Committee, may participate in its public sessions and question witnesses, unless the Committee orders otherwise, but shall not vote. [More…]
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However, I am confused by Senator Withers’ statement that to vote against the amendment will destroy the committee system, because it appears to me from simply looking at the proposition that we are arguing as to whether we will have 5 committees or 7 committees. [More…]
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It would certainly seem sensible to me if the Senate were to refer matters to the committees by a majority vote. [More…]
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But on the surface of the matter I am inclined to vote for the major part of Senator Withers’ amendment and exclude the foreign affairs committee because of the existence of a joint committee. [More…]
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Any honourable senator is entitled to have a vote on a matter. [More…]
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If there are separate questions they should be voted on separately. [More…]
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If there is a joint committee system as the result of a vote here one hopes that all honourable senators will co-operate in the conduct of that system. [More…]
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Whatever the result of this vote be, I certainly urge everyone in this chamber to co-operate fully in carrying out the decision and ensuring that the undoubted benefits of the committee system which have been demonstrated here in the Senate should be able to continue in one form or another. [More…]
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We are about to vote. [More…]
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I suggest that it would be convenient for us to vote firstly on the simple proposition of whether the Senate Standing Committee on [More…]
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To put the matter in simple terms, if it were divided and if there were a 30-30 vote Senator Withers would lose the portion of his amendment which deals with foreign affairs and defence. [More…]
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It would enable everybody to have an opportunity to vote on the re-appointment of each committee. [More…]
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The job is to get around the world, discrediting all your principles, to seek from wherever you can a vote, because a vote from the smallest nation, from the most radical nation, the most communist nation or the most tyrannous nation is as good as a vote from Britain, America or France. [More…]
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On the day before the elections, conscious of the importance of the migrant vote- and many times before that- the Prime Minister said: ‘We will not recognise the incorporation’. [More…]
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As Senator Willesee has pointed out previously, the argument put up by the Opposition to the effect that Senator Willesee is bending towards certain countries with a view to gaining votes is quite false because these countries are not entitled to cast a vote. [More…]
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I told the honourable senator that the countries which he mentioned have no vote anyway. [More…]
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If we vote that way, it would be not just an Opposition protest- I hope that the Opposition understands the importance of that- but the motion would be carried on the basis that the Opposition has proven its case in the Ermolenko affair and on the basis that we believe the Minister has harmed Australia’s national interest to the very serious extent that he should vacate his office. [More…]
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However, if I vote for this motion I will make myself very foolish as a senator from South Australia in giving support to the first and third parts of the amendment. [More…]
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The motion I asked to vote on was that the matter be dealt with forthwith and that we suspend Standing Order 127. [More…]
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I was in the minority in my vote. [More…]
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The group’s nomination will be accepted by all other members of the General Assembly without a vote. [More…]
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When the Government got the vote of the people it felt it could make any decision it pleased and so it repudiated the promise. [More…]
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We cannot afford to go through all that nonsense again and have 73 people standing for election to the Senate in New South Wales alone, the conspicuous feature of this situation being that the overwhelming vote was for the Australian Labor Party. [More…]
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That is something, of course, which honourable senators will have to take into account when they vote on this matter. [More…]
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On 18 May 1974 1 was again elected by the people of Queensland including- I emphasise the word ‘including’- a special vote of confidence by some 20,000 citizens of my State. [More…]
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The Aborigines in Queensland should not be worse off, by virtue of the fact that they have a Premier elected by a minority vote, than Aborigines in other parts of the country who live in States in which there is properly elected majority rule in the State Parliaments. [More…]
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Provision was made for statements for the amalgamation proposals and against the amalgamation proposals to be submitted and to be despatched to all persons who were entitled to vote. [More…]
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The amalgamation was to be approved if 50 per cent of the membership voted and if 50 per cent of that 50 per cent who voted in the ballot approved of it. [More…]
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In short, the provision was that first of all there had to be a vote of 50 per cent of the membership before it could be considered whether or not there was an effective vote for amalgamation. [More…]
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If 50 per cent of the members voted, provided the majority of that 50 per centthat is, 50. [More…]
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1 per cent of that 50 per cent- voted in favour of the amalgamation, the amalgamation was approved. [More…]
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That percentage would comprise the 50 per cent who did not bother to vote and 25 per cent of those who actually voted but who voted against the amalgamation proposal. [More…]
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We believe that it is consistent with the views of the membership of an organisation to require that half the membership should vote and that of those who vote a majority should favour the proposed amalgamation. [More…]
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I do not believe that there is any warrant for a ballot of this character to be conducted in accordance with the rules of the union as the committee of the union wants it, because we know that there are circumstances in which ballots of unions are not secret, in which there is exercised a degree of intimidation, in which persons would wish that they had an opportunity to exercise a postal ballot which is their own vote and not an intimidated vote. [More…]
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It is sufficient if the ballot is a union ballot in accordance with the rules of the organisation and the circumstances of some union ballots are such that one cannot guarantee that the vote is exercised in secrecy or without the fear of intimidation or duress. [More…]
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There is also proposed an alteration whereby the approval of a ballot is signified if 50 per cent of those voting formally vote in favour of the provision. [More…]
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This Bill does not re-enact the provision under which a case in support of the amalgamation and a case in opposition to the amalgamation must be circulated to all members entitled to vote. [More…]
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Finally, the amalgamation is taken to be approved only where more than one-half of the members who record formal votes vote in favour of the amalgamation, provided that ballot papers are received from at least one-half of the members on the roll of voters. [More…]
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We shall vote against the Bill. [More…]
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It is absolutely ludicrous to say that people in this position should be in any way compelled to vote on a proposal relating to union amalgamations. [More…]
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This provision simply means that the proposal for an amalgamation is approved if one-half of the members voting in the ballot vote in favour of the amalgamation proposal. [More…]
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It involves the deletion of the provision that 50 per cent of the financial members must vote in the ballot. [More…]
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If only 10 per cent of the union members are interested in an amalgamation proposal and vote and if 6 out of 10 of those people vote in favour of the amalgamation, the amalgamation scheme is approved. [More…]
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People are not compelled to vote in local government elections. [More…]
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A very small percentage of them in fact did vote. [More…]
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I would like him to point to provisions in the Companies Act which require shareholders to attend meetings and which require them to vote at meetings of giant corporations such as BHP. [More…]
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There is nothing in any Companies Act in Australia which compels people to vote at shareholders’ meetings, which compels people to attend meetings or which requires a majority of 50 per cent. [More…]
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Of course, previously in relation to an amalgamation it was necessary that half the members of the union should vote and that there should be a majority of that half. [More…]
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The shareholders in a company are not made to vote on the internal affairs of their company. [More…]
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I certainly would not approve of this Bill without the safeguard that every unionist should be required to vote in a secret postal ballot. [More…]
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I would have thought that there would be no objection from a Labor Party which believes in compulsory voting in all parliamentary elections and which, I understand, believes in compulsory voting in local government elections and will force people to vote and fine them if they do not, to the application of that principle to the union movement which in many ways is more powerful in this country than the Government itself. [More…]
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I wish that that Party could be realistic and understand that compulsory voting is here and that we will get a far more democratic answer from the community if we are perhaps a little less emphatic about the democratic way in which people can or cannot have the right to vote. [More…]
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My own Party has a policy of voluntary voting and I use my right as a member of a liberal party to vote as I see fit on this issue and propose policies as I see fit to suit this issue. [More…]
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He cannot argue against the fullest extension of the democratic process that every person should vote in a decision which affects the general community at large. [More…]
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This Bill seeks to amend the existing provision requiring that 50 per cent of the members vote in any ballot and, provided that a majority of members cast a formal vote, the decision is taken on the majority of that vote. [More…]
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In a ballot of 49 per cent of members of a union all of whom had voted unanimously in favour of an amalgamation the amalgamation could not take place because it would need to be supported by 50 per cent of members. [More…]
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On the other hand, 50.5 per cent of the membership of an organisation could vote and only 26 per cent of them need vote in favour of the amalgamation and the amalgamation would automatically be approved by the Registrar. [More…]
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One is that at least half of the members of the union must vote and the other is that more than half the formal vote must be in favour of amalgamation. [More…]
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As I stated earlier- in contrast to the amendments which have been introduced in this place for the third time- those conditions would no longer be necessary provided 50 per cent or a majority voted at a ballot in favour of the amalgamation. [More…]
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The arrangements for the taking of such plebiscite shall be such as to secure as large a vote as circumstances will admit, and each plebiscite taken shall be denoted in the advertisement and on the ballot papers by one of the letters printed on the voting slip attached to members ‘ tickets. [More…]
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Making it compulsory for union members to vote in a postal ballot would be an absolute waste of time. [More…]
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The imposition of a $5 penalty for those who do not vote is strongly opposed by the trade union movement. [More…]
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I believe that a decision to make a 50 per cent vote compulsory with a penalty of $5 for those who do not vote, would be abhorent to the trade union movement. [More…]
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Therefore, in my belief it was irrelevant for Senator Hall to refer to the fact that the Australian Labor Party supports compulsory voting in elections for parliamentary office and the imposition of a fine on those who do not vote, when he suggested that it should be compulsory for members to vote in a trade union ballot for amalgamation. [More…]
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Some such ballots have resulted in a percentage vote as low as 15 per cent. [More…]
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Some trade unions are not able to attract the same miserable vote as was attracted at the municipal elections in Sydney last Saturday, as Senator Greenwood admits; yet he suggests that another 20 per cent should be added to the percentage vote in order to make certain that there will be no more amalgamations, that the weaker unions will stay weak and that there will be an imposition on members of those small unions through their having to pay higher contribution fees, knowing that unions cannot function efficiently and effectively when they do not have large memberships. [More…]
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In that way the ACTU could induct members of unions to vote for and to support amalgamations in suitable cases. [More…]
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That means that they ought to be encouraged to vote and to obtain enough information about their unions to know what is to be gained and what is to be lost by an amalgamation; what one union may have in assets and what it may gain in faculties if it amalgamates. [More…]
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The existing Act provides that half the members of a union must vote, which means that just over 25 per cent of the members of a union are required to vote in favour for an amalgamation to succeed. [More…]
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He told me that when the members were asked to vote on the proposition the matter was decided on the voices. [More…]
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We inserted section 133 (1) (a) in the legislation providing that members themselves must vote in the election of union officials. [More…]
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Some of the people who would vote in a current election would not be in the industry anyway. [More…]
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Then he went on to say that he would vote against the legislation. [More…]
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After all, it cannot be assumed that those who do not vote in an election concerned with an amalgamation motion oppose the amalgamation. [More…]
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On every occasion when we debate Bills similar to the Bill which we are presently discussing, honourable senators opposite decide to vote against them. [More…]
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After all, the Austraiian Labor Party received approximately the same number of first preference votes at the last general election after the double dissolution of the Parliament as the Liberal Party and the Country Party. [More…]
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We received approximately the same number of votes as the Labor Party which is why we came back with the same number of senators as the Government. [More…]
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If my mathematics are correct, Senator Hall received only 0.94 per cent of the national vote. [More…]
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The Liberal-Country parties received 48 per cent of the vote as did the Government but the Government is proposing that we will be represented only by 2 senators. [More…]
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Perhaps we might have a declaration as to which of those 2 men honourable senators opposite voted for as their leader after the last general election. [More…]
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It would also be interesting to hear a declaration as to whom senators opposite will vote for as Prime Minister shortly. [More…]
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Even though these 2 motions are the subject of a cognate debate I take it we will have separate votes on each motion. [More…]
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The Opposition will vote against Senator Murphy’s motion. [More…]
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He did so simply on the basis that he did not get a vote of endorsement. [More…]
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It mounted a very expensive campaign and influenced the Australian people to vote against the referendum which was designed to give us the power to control prices and wages. [More…]
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But I daresay that if we were to seek the power by referendum again we would find that we were faced with the same situation: The Liberal and Country Parties would go out onto the hustings and advocate a no vote again. [More…]
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That might have been one of the reasons why the Australian Labor Party secured the large vote that it did in the Australian Capital Territory on 1 8 May last. [More…]
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I was grateful that they received only about 1.1 per cent of the vote, but I would caution the Senate against accepting that vote as a measure of the feeling in Western Australia about the desirability of the State managing its own affairs. [More…]
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I shall certainly exercise my vote to resist it. [More…]
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When the matter was before the Senate last, in July, the decision upon which we had to vote was whether the Bills should be referred to the Committee to report by 1 October. [More…]
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The real test will come when the Bills come back into this Senate and we vote on them. [More…]
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I suggest, in view of the time factor, that we put this Bill to the vote on the second reading and proceed to the Committee stage. [More…]
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For instance, when a person is placed in the position of having to make decisions on economic matters in the community one may query whether that person has been able to show any competence in this field in his private life before hearing him speak on such a matter or allowing him to decide by his vote whether certain action in relation to Government business should be taken. [More…]
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Conflict of interests surely is the most important matter for us to consider, but to me it is overridden by the knowledge that when a member is elected to the Senate or the House of Representatives or obtains public support by vote and is elected to a local council or to a State parliament there is a demonstration of public confidence in his record and an acknowledgement that he is a man of some repute, a man of honour who will vote fairly on matters. [More…]
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If in relation to something on which I voted there was a suggestion of personal gain to me I am sure that Government senators would be upstanding. [More…]
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I would hate to think if there were a vote in this place on liquor laws for the Australian Capital Territory - [More…]
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I would hate to think that if there were a vote on rugby league or on any matter relating to sport someone would be able to say that because of his record Senator McAuliffe should not vote. [More…]
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Now he wants to place on record his own interests so that I could challenge him, if we were debating a levy for the poultry industry, by saying: ‘Senator McLaren will not be allowed to vote on this matter’. [More…]
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It would be interesting for the public to know of any conflict of interest that may arise when members vote for money to be appropriated. [More…]
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In the event of an equality of voting, the Chairman, or the Deputy-Chairman when acting as Chairman, shall have a casting vote. [More…]
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A Senator, though not a member of a Committee, may attend and participate in its deliberations, and question witnesses, unless the Committee orders otherwise, but shall not vote. [More…]
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The members of the Senate are perhaps more democratically elected because we come here by proportional representation vote. [More…]
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It will be doing great harm to the Parliament and it will bring no honour whatever to any of its members who vote against this motion. [More…]
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The result was that the motion was carried because of my vote. [More…]
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I speak in this way because, as I said, it was my vote that really enabled these Committees to be brought about. [More…]
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Nor do I think he should be the subject of condemnation on the part of those who think that by his vote he brought about something that, in their opinion, is not beneficial to the [More…]
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When it came to the vote on the second motion moved by the DLP, its members voted for the motion and the Government and the Opposition combined to vote against it. [More…]
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The members of the DLP, together with the Labor Party Opposition members, voted for the motion and had a majority in favour of the establishment of standing committees. [More…]
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Hansard will record that in relation to the division taken for the appointment of standing committees, Senator Wood did not vote in favour of the standing committees. [More…]
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I think that the honourable senator will find that when the vote was taken for the establishment of the standing committees, the Opposition and the DLP voted together, which gave us a majority in the Senate. [More…]
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We then put the question on the establishment of Estimates Committees and the Government and the Democratic Labor Party voted for them. [More…]
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Senator Wood on that occasion voted for the Estimates Committees in unity with the whole of the Government forces. [More…]
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I am sure that Ministers who sit around the table and Ministers of the Whitlam Government who are in this place when confronted with the situation if this motion is lost, will regret having voted against the motion and will regret the decision which is taken this day. [More…]
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I hope that the Senate will vote for the retention of these Estimates committees. [More…]
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Senator Murphy’s proposition that Senate standing committees be established was carried by 1 vote, Senator Wood voting with the Opposition. [More…]
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If Senator Wood examines the record he will find that he and Senator Turnbull did not cast a vote on the motion to establish the Estimates Committees. [More…]
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It was done by the Minister concerned as an administrative act with moneys voted to his Department and without seeking the approval of the legislators of this country as to whether we wanted to establish an organisation of such tremendous import in this country. [More…]
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We ought to be able to find out where moneys voted to a department are likely to be used when we have a Government which is prepared to by-pass Parliament in this way. [More…]
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1 know that in the legal area we have this year a sum of $ 12.5m voted for legal aid yet the purposes for which this legal aid is voted are not purposes which have received parliamentary approval. [More…]
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Why should there be an office established, to be financed in part by some $ 12.5m which this Parliament is being asked to vote, and this information be withheld from members of the Parliament? [More…]
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I referred earlier to the defence vote which I believe is being kept down to a deplorable level in view of the inflationary effects and the need even to maintain the payment of salaries to members of the defence forces. [More…]
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I believe that it is under severe threat of being dismantled by this Government because of economies being made in the defence vote. [More…]
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The Government is using the defence vote as one part of its program to take the brunt of economies while it is increasing rapidly its appropriations for other parts of its expenditure program. [More…]
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I refer, for instance, to the vote for research and development which is mainly to be expended in the maintenance and development work of the Weapons Research Establishment based at Salisbury, Woomera and adjacent areas. [More…]
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This vote has been increased from $59.8m to $67. [More…]
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The facts of life are that in 1973-74 the vote for the research and development section of the defence appropriation was $59.8m, which was an increase of $3m or 5.3 per cent. [More…]
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This year the vote is increased by $7.7m from $59.8m to $67.5m, an increase of 12.8 per cent in a year in which we can assume that the inflation rate is about 22 per cent. [More…]
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I can say to the Minister for Agriculture that the members of this valuable assembly of staff at the Weapons Research Establishment are extremely concerned that they are taking the brunt of the economies in the defence vote because they are not front line operators. [More…]
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So this Government will continue to increase by 43 per cent the vote for the arts, and other provisions by even more. [More…]
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Honourable senators opposite should have a look at the record of South Australia where a Labor Government was never able to be elected unless it received 56 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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Legislation will come before this House and I sincerely hope that the honourable senator will vote for it. [More…]
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But no doubt he will not do so because he still wants this kind of Liberal- whether he is a small’ 1 ‘ or a big L’ liberal; I call him a conservative- to dominate everybody and so that the Labor Party has to receive 56 per cent or 58 per cent of the vote before it can come to government. [More…]
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Opposition senators have been talking a lot of nonsense and rubbish because Playford was the worst Premier that any State ever had because he controlled South Australia under a system in which his Party prevailed in government with a minority of the votes. [More…]
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Whenever did the majority of the people of South Australia vote for him? [More…]
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I would not gamble with the Moderator, because he would not bet, but I will put money into his church fund any time that he can prove that on more than 2 occasions in the history of his reign in South Australia Tom Playford received more than 50 percent of the vote of the people. [More…]
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When Walshe was elected he had to get 55 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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When Dunstan was elected he had to get 56 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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-I would think so, but the whole point is that I have made a challenge to Senator Davidson and I will do what I said if he can prove that on more than 2 occasions Playford had more than 50 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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Dunstan had to get 56 percent of the vote before he could even form a government. [More…]
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South Australia has the greatest concentration of voters in the metropolitan area relative to total population of any State in the Commonwealth. [More…]
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Over that period he received a majority of the vote on 2 occasions. [More…]
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Mr Hawke says that we can vote on the way we want things run. [More…]
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Well, I saw a statement in one of the Sydney journals that Senator Greenwood might be deposed and Senator Steele Hall might be offered a position to ensure that he will vote with the Liberals all the time. [More…]
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For heaven’s sake, what about the education vote, the welfare and the repatriation pensions? [More…]
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The Government believes that it can bribe the people in the urban areas to vote for it. [More…]
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The dominating coalition Party in Queensland is fortified by the fact that it has 19 per cent of the people’s vote in Queensland so that they are able to dictate to all sections of the community behind a strong fortification of 19 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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There are people in charge of gaol administration in Queensland who do not have the moral courage- and apparently with 19 per cent of the vote in Queensland do not have the legal right- to carry out proper reforms. [More…]
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Why did not the Government vote against the admission of the Palestine Liberation Organisation into the United Nations? [More…]
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A resolution which provided for the Palestine Liberation Organisation to participate as ‘the representatives of the Palestinian people’ in plenary session during the General Assembly’s deliberations on the question of Palestine was put to the vote on 14 October. [More…]
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The vote was overwhelmingly in favour of PLO participation. [More…]
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Israel, the United States of America, Bolivia and the Dominican Republic were the only countries which voted against the resolution. [More…]
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In an explanation of vote, the Australian representative expressed doubts about departure from the established practice of keeping debates in plenary session to representatives of the member states of the United Nations. [More…]
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It divided 4 votes to 2, and the 4 votes included my vote as a Liberal Party member of the Senate. [More…]
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Is it any wonder, with this sort of thing going on and with the way in which Australia has been affected by this Government’s economic mismanagement, that Mr Bill Hughes, the General Secretary of the Australian Textile Workers Union, should say yesterday that he could not understand why any person employed in manufacturing industries in Australia would vote for the return of this Government. [More…]
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I wonder whether those visits are not related to the particularly high vote that the Liberal Party received at the election in May this year. [More…]
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The Opposition is not going to vote against the Bill but wants to take something out of it. [More…]
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If we are criticised for putting that to the national Parliament when dealing with a Bill to which it should be attached and Government senators do not vote for it, they are saying: ‘We heard the promise of the Prime Minister at election time. [More…]
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But Senator Everett has attacked Senator Greenwood in this instance although Senator Greenwood, as the Deputy Leader of the Opposition in this place, had quite rightly risen to point out that on a delicate balance of one vote- and that was the vote of the member of the Liberal Movement in this placethe Government had carried its motion. [More…]
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It carried its motion on the vote of Government senators from Tasmania who voted to deny further funds being allocated to the State of Tasmania, and that is the fact of the situation. [More…]
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I understand that, while I was in the Library trying to assemble some anti-Government propaganda and speech-making material for another subject to be debated in the Senate, the Deputy Leader of the Opposition (Senator Greenwood) used my name when referring to a vote which was just taken in the Senate. [More…]
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I do not intend to shirk the responsibility of my vote, which I believe is far more pro-Tasmanian. [More…]
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I believe that the votes which I cast in this chamber will gain greater credibility by the public of Australia than those cast by Senator Greenwood. [More…]
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Because it was misplaced and was in no way a proper attack on the Government I voted as I did. [More…]
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My vote is in no way a reflection of my opinion of the Government. [More…]
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I would like to say a few words about a matter which has arisen in the sense that I have now been able to read one or two reports of what happened in my absence from the Senate yesterday concerning a vote that was taken in this chamber. [More…]
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I have also had the opportunity to peruse a report printed in the Launceston ‘Examiner’ concerning that vote. [More…]
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I hope that the ‘Examiner’ will print my reply and put in its correct light the situation in relation to the vote taken yesterday on the States Grants Bill. [More…]
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I did not vote against that Bill, as was inferred in the first paragraph of your report. [More…]
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He was quite clearly hitting out at the hand of generosity extended by the Commonwealth, and I am sure that if it had passed on my vote in the Senate it would have depressed Tasmania’s reputation on the Federal level. [More…]
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There was no misconception in the reporting of the debate and of the vote in this House in any message conveyed by the newspaper reporters in the Press Gallery. [More…]
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I want to make it quite clear at this stage that I voted without reservation yesterday for the advantages to be given to Tasmania. [More…]
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I hope that I will be given the chance to vote on further proposals which will be of advantage to Tasmania. [More…]
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The sub-headline is: ‘Senate Plea Defeated by One Vote’. [More…]
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He stated that if he voted for the motion last night which called on the Government to provide further moneys for Tasmania and further support, that might have done damage to Tasmania. [More…]
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If Senator Hall thinks that, he should have had the moral courage to stand firm against that feeling, vote for the motion on its merits and put the Government to the test. [More…]
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I suggest that it really should have made him vote the other way. [More…]
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He has got to face the fact that he did vote with the Labor Party to reject Senator Rae’s amendment which simply asked that this Senate express the opinion, in effect, that Tasmania was being hardly dealt with and suggested that it would be better if Tasmania were given more money and that we should recognise the problems which Tasmania experiences because of the cost problems in regard to transport. [More…]
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Your petitioners most humbly pray that the Senate in Parliament assembled should vote that the Family Law Bill ( 1974) be made the subject of further community study and that to facilitate this aim the debate on this Bill be adjourned until April, 1975. [More…]
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Your petitioners most humbly pray that the Senate in Parliament assembled should vote that the Family Law Bill (1974) be made the subject of further community study and that to facilitate this aim the debate on this Bill be adjourned until April, 1975. [More…]
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Your petitioners most humbly pray that the Senate in Parliament assembled should vote that the Family Law Bill ( 1974) be made the subject of further community study and that to facilitate this aim the debate on this Bill be adjourned until April, 1975. [More…]
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I am happy to vote for the second reading of the Australian Film Commission Bill. [More…]
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I will vote for this Bill, knowing that the original legislation which introduced the Federal Government into this very important sphere was initiated by a previous Prime Minister and Liberal Party Leader, Mr John Gorton. [More…]
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Some of these productions already require my approval as Minister, and others are what are known as the departmental vote and require a client department, as it were- it could be the Department of Foreign Affairs, the Department of Tourism and Recreation, the Department of Social Security- to decide that it wants to make a film and then to seek the services of Film Australia. [More…]
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He would/’ vote against any legislation if he thought that it was to his political advantage, regardless of the national needs of Australia. [More…]
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I admit to the honourable senator from South Australa that if he wants to vote on behalf of those who make films in South Australia he will divide away from his spokesman and vote for clause 10 in the amended form. [More…]
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As I understand it, there is nothing to stop a department from saying: ‘We will devote a certain amount of our yearly vote. [More…]
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But the Liberal Party and Country Party sector of the Opposition has obviously decided simply to vote against the clause and has not tried in any way- and I find this depressingly frequent- to amend the clause or to insert a safeguard. [More…]
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I could go out and stump the country or stump this industry and I assure honourable senators opposite that it is my belief that they would not get one vote from any person who produces, directs or is employed in the film industry, especially in the short feature industry. [More…]
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Clause 8 was defeated last night by vote of the Committee. [More…]
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I understood that what you, Mr Chairman, were proposing to do was to have Senator Steele Hall’s amendment adopted with regard to clause 10 and then to proceed to consider clause 3- the definitions clause- prior to putting clause 10 as amended to the vote. [More…]
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I deferred speaking before you took that course of action because it seemed to me that you wished to have clause 10 as amended by Senator Steele Hall dealt with to that stage before putting the amended clause to the vote. [More…]
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If that were not what you were proposing to do, Senator Greenwood’s intervention was timely because it was decided last night that the vote on clause 10 would be deferred until such time as we had looked at clause 3 and the definition of an Australian short film. [More…]
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That is the view which, if our amendments which we have put forward today fail, we shall adhere to in the vote which we will cast on clause 10. [More…]
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In this debate the Opposition is not in any way co-operative but is rather obstructive in every respect except, one hopes, when it comes to a vote on the legislation. [More…]
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Of course, the real problem is getting together on the form of words which should constitute the head of power upon which the Australian people could be asked to vote. [More…]
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The Opposition will vote for the second reading of the Arbitration (Foreign Awards and Agreements) Bill 1 974. [More…]
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In the event of an equality of voting, the Chairman shall have a casting vote. [More…]
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If a vote is to be taken in that regard I suppose our views ought to be known. [More…]
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I am going to vote for the Committee to finish its work, and I will be very happy to support Senator Rae in that position. [More…]
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I indicate, firstly, that, as on previous occasions, Opposition senators will have a free vote on this matter. [More…]
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There was a previous Senate vote and a recent House of Representatives vote which, I suggest to the Senate, was largely based on the view which the had earlier expressed on the proper site of a parliament house. [More…]
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It is a very different Senate and there are 1 5 new senators taking part in the vote on this matter. [More…]
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Indeed, in the last Senate vote which took place on this question last year there were 4 honourable senators at least present in this House who certainly aspired to the kingdom of Heaven with greater vigour than perhaps I do and who voted in favour of the Capital Hill site. [More…]
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Senator Withers commented about having a free vote. [More…]
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I think that on the first 4 occasions I was the only one in the Senate who did not have a free vote because if I had not presented a motion in favour of Camp Hill, as it were in a pro forma manner, we would not have had a motion on which to vote. [More…]
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On the occasion that I forced a vote on this issue, 15 November, believe it or not, my motion attracted 14 votes. [More…]
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I appeal to the Senate to bring the matter to a vote tonight. [More…]
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I suggest to the Committee that leave be granted for me to move my amendment as one amendment so that a vote can be taken fairly quickly and we can all go home. [More…]
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I do not know how many of them, or if any of them, vote Labor. [More…]
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The Australian Government has instructed its delegation to the United Nations to vote in the Security Council in favour of this step. [More…]
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It is, as has been said, a matter on which a free vote will be exercised on all sides of the chamber. [More…]
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Against that question, which I think was phrased unfortunately for the yes’ vote, one finds these answers: Sixty three per cent of all people said that it is a good thing, 32 per cent said that it is a bad thing and 5 per cent gave no answer. [More…]
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The total Australian vote in favour of the proposition that a divorce should be granted immediately was 31.1 per cent. [More…]
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That makes a total vote of those who favour a Bill of this nature of 69.7 per cent or almost 70 per cent. [More…]
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If one takes the Roman Catholic vote, the figure is 6 1 . [More…]
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The total Protestant, Anglican and other votes in favour of granting a divorce immediately or after an interval of 12 months was 71.8 per cent. [More…]
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A free vote is a rare phenomenon in this place. [More…]
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I think it was proper in the circumstances, particularly since there is to be a free vote, that they should have given to the Senate their own particular views on the matter- a compound of what had come to them, plus a blend of the undoubted knowledge and experience they possess of matters of this kind. [More…]
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The vote seekers will find before they are many months older politically that what is won on the roundabouts is lost on the swings. [More…]
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We know that the Minister indicated in the Senate today that the Australian Government has directed its United Nations representative to vote in favour of the resolution. [More…]
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Mclntyre to vote in a particular way to exclude South Africa. [More…]
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We have a Minister and a Government directing our representative to vote for the exclusion of South Africa from the United Nations on apartheid grounds. [More…]
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I wonder what other developed nations are doing in regard to their vote at this time. [More…]
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Australian criticism of racial discrimination in South Africa, and the Government ‘s unofficial proposal to vote in the UN Security Council for the expulsion of South Africa, either choose to ignore facts that are being given wide publicity or to interpret them as gimmicks and window-dressing. [More…]
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I do not see how we can avoid this criticism that will be levelled at us in future years if we take this action to vote in the United Nations for the expulsion of South Africa. [More…]
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He could not refuse to vote for it. [More…]
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Tonight Senator Webster raised a matter in relation to the answer which I gave this morning about a vote which will come up in the Security Council, probably tomorrow, in relation to South Africa. [More…]
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This seemed to be the one reason he gave why we should not vote the way I have instructed Sir Laurence Mclntyre to vote at the Security Council. [More…]
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We have to make up our minds how we will vote on this matter. [More…]
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Under a ruling which was referred to as the Hambro ruling- it was given by Mr President Hambro- the vote was to be taken as a condemnation of South African policies but it did not affect the right of participation in the Assembly. [More…]
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A vote was taken on that and it was carried overwhelmingly. [More…]
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Another vote was taken which was to refer this matter to the General Assembly. [More…]
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So it was an overwhelming vote indeed which sent the matter to this body. [More…]
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Because of the stand we have taken, because of the stand which the previous Government took and because of the things we have said about racism, we believe it is time to vote for the expulsion of South Africa. [More…]
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It is not true to say that anybody can vote with safety on this sort of matter knowing full well that South Africa will not be expelled. [More…]
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Australia will take its responsibility because of the way we will vote. [More…]
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The honourable senator acknowledged in turn that the reason that we should vote against South Africa is that we have not clean hands on the question of social discrimination. [More…]
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How can we in Australia say that we are trying to get rid of racial discrimination and that we believe we should not judge one another because of the colour of our skins, yet turn round and vote the other way when it conies to South Africa? [More…]
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I received a letter from a constituent in my State who asked whether I would take into account his objections to this Bill when deciding how to vote on it. [More…]
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Many factors need to be taken into considerationI will deal with them in the Committee stage of the debate- in deciding how one should vote. [More…]
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I hope that honourable senators will vote for an amendment to clause 5 1. [More…]
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I intend to vote in favour of its second reading. [More…]
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Senator Sir KENNETH ANDERSON (New South Wales) (9.35)-The Family Law Bill 1974 is a Bill in relation to which any honourable senator will, as we say in parliamentary language, have a completely free vote. [More…]
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All honourable senators will have an open vote on the Bill; they are not obliged to vote according to a decision taken by their Party. [More…]
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So when honourable senators cast their votes they will be doing so completely, absolutely and utterly according to their own views and their own approach to the Bill. [More…]
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I can only speak as I feel on this matter because there is to be an open vote. [More…]
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This is an open vote. [More…]
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It should not be forgotten that the Democratic Labor Party was a Party of 5 senators established in the Senate for approximately 15 years whose individual representatives had polled approximately 1 8 per cent of the vote in each of 2 States and whose national vote approximated 10 per cent. [More…]
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Then the matter will rest on whether that resolution is carried or the United Nations goes back to the position last year and we vote on the question of who shall be seated. [More…]
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If it does come to a vote we will support the resolution that the Lon Nol Government be seated at the United Nations. [More…]
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-Can the Minister for Foreign Affairs inform the Senate whether the direction of the Australian socialist Labor Government to its representative at the United Nations to vote for the expulsion of South Africa from that body has been exercised as at this date? [More…]
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-I cannot tell the honourable senator whether this question has been voted on or not; I do not know. [More…]
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The vote is imminent; it could have happened by now. [More…]
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In my case there have been an additional 49 occasions on which I have given individual votes in support of Government Bills. [More…]
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I therefore have not opposed or voted for Government legislation on 399 occasions, plus 49 occasions, making a total of 448 occasions. [More…]
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In order to find the number of occasions on which the LiberalCountry Party Opposition has voted for the Government, one has to multiply the votes of the 29 Liberal-Country Party senators by the number of Bills by the number of procedural matters which are decided by vote. [More…]
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On 11,571 occasions the Liberal-Country Party Opposition has voted for the Government. [More…]
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Your petitioners most humbly pray that the Senate in Parliament assembled should vote against the Bill in its present form, allow public consideration of amendments and then vote to so amend the Bill as to strengthen and support marriage and the family in a manner acceptable to the people of Australia. [More…]
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Your petitioners most humbly pray that the Senate in Parliament assembled should vote that the Family Law Bill (1974) be made the subject of further community study and that to facilitate this aim the debate on this Bill be adjourned until April, 1975. [More…]
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Your petitioners most humbly pray that the Senate in Parliament assembled should vote that the Family Law Bill ( 1974) be made the subject of further community study and that to facilitate this aim the debate on this Bill be adjourned until April, 1975. [More…]
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Your petitioners most humbly pray that the Senate in Parliament assembled should vote that the Family Law Bill ( 1974) be made the subject of further community study and that to facilitate this aim the debate on this Bill be adjourned until April, 1975. [More…]
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We have not gone out looking for a miserable vote just by handing someone $1 by way of a bounty or a subsidy. [More…]
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It was very interesting that he said that the vote lamentably betrayed Australia’s interests, so admirably defended by the representatives of Great Britain, the United States and France. [More…]
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Senator Wright said that, by its vote, Australia regrettably sought the applause of the African nations and the communists. [More…]
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They do not have a vote. [More…]
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This Government either did not have the courage of its convictions or it was completely misled in regard to the voting at the United Nations on the Palestine Liberation Organisation where Australia abstained from casting its vote. [More…]
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In 1947-48 the then Minister for Supply in Mr Atlee ‘s Government in the United Kingdom buried in the Defence vote the sum of 780m under a false heading. [More…]
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That 780m was extracted from the Consolidated Revenue Fund of the United Kingdom because the House voted for it notwithstanding its own estimates committee. [More…]
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I mention it only to illustrate that governments fall into the temptation, whatever their view, of disguising the purpose for money that parliament has voted. [More…]
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Your petitioners most humbly pray that the Senate in Parliament assembled should vote against the Bill in its present form, allow public consideration of amendments and then vote to so amend the Bill as to strengthen and support marriage and the family in a manner acceptable to the people of Australia. [More…]
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Your petitioners most humbly pray that the Senate in Parliament assembled should vote against the Bill in its present form, allow public consideration of amendments and then vote to so amend the Bill as to strengthen and support marriage and the family in a manner acceptable to the people of Australia. [More…]
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Your petitioners most humbly pray that the Senate in Parliament assembled should vote against the Bill in its present form, allow public consideration of amendments and then vote to so amend the Bill as to strengthen and support marriage and the family in a manner acceptable to the people of Australia. [More…]
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Your petitioners most humbly pray that the Senate in Parliament assembled should vote against the Bill in its present form, allow public consideration of amendments and then vote to so amend the Bill as to strengthen and support marriage and the family in a manner acceptable to the people of Australia. [More…]
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Your petitioners most humbly pray that the Senate in Parliament assembled should vote against the Bill in its present form, allow public consideration of amendments and then vote to so amend the Bill as to strengthen and support marriage and the family in a manner acceptable to the people of Australia. [More…]
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Your petitioners most humbly pray that the Senate in Parliament assembled should vote against the Bill in its present form, allow public consideration of amendments and then vote to so amend the Bill as to strengthen and support marriage and the family in a manner acceptable to the people of Australia. [More…]
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Your petitioners most humbly pray that the Senate in Parliament assembled should vote against the Bil! [More…]
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in its present form, allow public consideration of amendments and then vote to so amend the Bill as to strengthen and support marriage and the family in a manner acceptable to the people of Australia. [More…]
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Your petitioners most humbly pray that the Senate in Parliament assembled should vote that the Family Law Bill 1974 be made the subject of further community study and that to facilitate this aim the debate on this Bill be adjourned until April 197S. [More…]
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Your petitioners most humbly pray that the Senate in Parliament assembled should vote that the Family Law Bill 1974 be made the subject of further community study and that to facilitate this aim the debate on this Bill be adjourned until April 1975. [More…]
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The right of every Australian citizen to vote at a national referendum or Senate or Federal Elections for the retention of our present Australian Flag and equally of our national anthem, ‘God Save The Queen’, before any government or other body can attempt to substitute either a new flag or anthem, and a similar voting right for the choice of any official National Song to play on international occasions. [More…]
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Your petitioners most humbly pray that the Senate in Par-, liament assembled should vote that the Family Law Bill 1974 be made the subject of further community study and that to facilitate this aim the debate on this Bill be adjourned until April 1975. [More…]
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Your petitioners most humbly pray that the Senate in Parliament assembled should vote that the Family Law Bill 1974 be made the subject of further community study and that to facilitate this aim the debate on this Bill be adjourned until April, 1975. [More…]
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Your petitioners most humbly pray that the Senate in Parliament assembled should vote that the Family Law Bill 1 974 be made the subject of further community study and that to facilitate this aim the debate on this Bill be adjourned until April, 1975. [More…]
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Your petitioners most humbly pray that the Senate in Parliament assembled should vote against the Bill in its present form, allow public consideration of amendments and then vote to so amend the Bill as to strengthen and support marriage and the family in a manner acceptable to the people of Australia. [More…]
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Your petitioners most humbly pray that the Senate in Parliament assembled should vote against the Bill in its present form, allow public consideration of amendments and then vote to so amend the Bill as to strengthen and support marriage and the family in a manner acceptable to the people of Australia. [More…]
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Your petitioners most humbly pray that the Senate in Parliament assembled should vote against the Bill in its present form, allow public consideration of amendments and then vote to so amend the Bill as to strengthen and support marriage and the family in a manner acceptable to the people of Australia. [More…]
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The right of every Australian citizen to vote at a National Referendum or Senate or Federal Election for the retention of our present Australian Flag and equally of our national anthem, ‘God Save The Queen’, before any government or other body can attempt to substitute either a new flag or anthem, and a similar voting right for the choice of any official National Song to play on international occasions. [More…]
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Senator Cavanagh has taken $3,190,000 off the vote for Queensland under this Bill. [More…]
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I have no doubt that he will be returned to office on a minority vote in that State but for a number of particular reasons he is not regarded outside Queensland as an estimable leader of Australians. [More…]
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I will not vote for an amendment which will make Aboriginal welfare suffer because some politician wants to gain some votes from it. [More…]
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For that reason I will not vote for Senator Rae ‘s amendment. [More…]
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-I will not vote for it because it is a futile exercise in political jiggery. [More…]
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The Minister has said that and he has encouraged an honourable senator to vote with the Government against the amendment. [More…]
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The fact is that an honourable senator has said that he will vote for this Bill provided the Minister gives a promise that the $3,190,000 which has been taken away from the Queensland Government- although promised to it in the appropriate Budget paperwill be expended in Queensland in this year. [More…]
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He sought as the opinion of this Senate that the Government was doing the right thing for Queensland and indicated that he would not get support and that the result will be when the question is put to the vote of the Senate that the Senate will express its belief that we are doing the right thing by Queensland. [More…]
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Your petitioners most humbly pray that the Senate in Parliament assembled should vote against the Bill in its present form, allow public consideration of amendments and then vote to so amend the Bill as to strengthen and support marriage and the family in a manner acceptable to the people of Australia. [More…]
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Your petitioners most humbly pray that the Senate in Parliament assembled should vote against the Bill in its present form, allow public consideration of amendments and then vote to so amend the Bill as to strengthen and support marriage and the family in a manner acceptable to the people of Australia. [More…]
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Your petitioners most humbly pray that the Senate in Parliament assembled should vote against the Bill in its present form, allow public consideration of amendments and then vote to so amend the Bill as to strengthen and support marriage and the family in a manner acceptable to the people of Australia. [More…]
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Apart from the magnitude of the education vote, a number of schemes, including the National Employment and Training Scheme, have been designed to give people the opportunity to take a study course where there is no employment available in their particular categories. [More…]
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It sought through a special Premiers Conference a voice and a vote for local government on the Loan Council and it proceeded with a referendum to enable the Constitution to be amended to. [More…]
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It is said that the Bill comes before this Senate by way of open vote. [More…]
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Certainly all Opposition senators will be free to vote according to their conscience. [More…]
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I hope that they will respect the conscience vote as well. [More…]
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I will vote in support of the amendment moved by Senator Sir Kenneth Anderson. [More…]
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In supporting the second reading speech I am not suggesting that I will necessarily vote consistently in support of or against all of the amendments. [More…]
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I will probably vote against them or, alternatively, support them with some amendment. [More…]
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I cannot see a Bill which is supposed to involve a conscience vote being gagged or guillotined through the other place, although I am not sure whether that will not happen. [More…]
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There will be a free vote. [More…]
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One is that I believe it is the responsibility of every senator, on the most important Bill that we have had before us for many years, to give his or her views, whether they are brief or protracted, on this legislation, not to sit like nervous Nellies and vote the way that the leader does. [More…]
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They know how they are going to vote and they are not going to waste their time. [More…]
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Public opinion and parliamentary opinion can be formalised and finalised and we can give our vote in time. [More…]
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I do so conscious of the fact that the Senate is engaging in a vote in which the leaders of both parties in this chamber have indicated that ordinary party disciplines do not apply. [More…]
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It will be a free vote. [More…]
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There will be a free vote and individuals will express their own views on this matter. [More…]
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Secondly, as I have said, whenever the vote on the second reading takes place I shall support it. [More…]
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That, as I understand it, is what he intended when he moved his amendment because he knew it would be voted on immediately prior to the vote on the motion for the second reading of the Bill, and if carried it would simply have the effect of deferring not the second reading debate but the Committee debate. [More…]
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I thought this was to be a free vote and that he might have allowed the opportunity to people who disagreed with him to express their view on a basis other than Government against Opposition. [More…]
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I shall vote for the amendment, but irrespective of the outcome of that amendment, I will vote for the motion for the second reading. [More…]
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I feel inclined to enter this debate because I believe that this is one of those questions where party loyalty does not apply and where every member is entitled to vote according to his own belief. [More…]
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It has been clearly stated on 2 occasions, once by the then President, Senator Sir Alister McMullin, and again by the then Leader of the Government, Senator Sir Kenneth Anderson, that it is a matter for the Senate to decide and until it is decided by a vote of the Senate I maintain that Senator Webster is entirely out of order. [More…]
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The matter was subsequently put to the vote and was carried on the voices. [More…]
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5 ) That, in the event of an equality of voting, the Chairman, or the Deputy-Chairman when acting as Chairman, have a casting vote. [More…]
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The whole country is aware, when the people go to vote for it, just what the Labor Party stands for. [More…]
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They have no rights such as that of the vote, cannot hold a job in any government office or in Syria’s nationalised sector, to say nothing of the police or armed forces, be it the most insignificant. [More…]
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Senator Missen asks whether it is a matter of getting oil money or getting votes in the United Nations. [More…]
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Senator Missen raises the question of lining up votes in the United Nations. [More…]
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At times delegates will have to vote against very old friends and at times will be disappointing people who look to the new stands that Australia has developed during the last few years. [More…]
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Lining up votes is just not on. [More…]
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Your petitioners most humbly pray that the Senate in Parliament assembled should vote against the Bill in its present form, allow public consideration of amendments and then vote to so amend the Bill as to strengthen and support marriage and the family in a manner acceptable to the people of Australia. [More…]
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I do not intend to vote for the amendment proposed by Senator Sir Kenneth Anderson but I was brought into this debate by the words used by Senator James McClelland. [More…]
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I would feel that if one were forced to a vote on this I would prefer to have the words ‘marriage dissolution’ in the hope that it would produce some change which would be more acceptable in the long run. [More…]
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I voted for the second reading. [More…]
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I vote against the proposal. [More…]
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Did the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation vote recently to exclude Israel from certain activities of that Organisation and at the same time to include the Palestine Liberation Organisation? [More…]
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Did Australia vote on these resolutions? [More…]
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If so, how did Australia vote? [More…]
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These include: optional preferential marking of ballot papers; printing of party affiliations of candidates on ballot papers; registration of political parties for purposes of indentification and printing of affiliations on ballot papers; introduction of mobile polling booths at hospitals and similar institutions; drawing for positions of candidates on House of Representatives ballot papers; closing of the polls at 6 p.m. rather than 8 p.m.; requiring a candidate changing his name within 12 months prior to nominations to declare the change, and providing for the former name to be included on the ballot paper; prevention of persons enrolling or nominating for election under changed names in certain circumstances; an earlier deadline for the return of postal votes and for the return of postal votes direct to respective Returning Officer; restricting postal vote application forms to be used at an election or referendum to those specified by notice in the Gazette; prohibiting the listing of names of persons who apply for postal votes, except in certain specified circumstances; providing postal voting facilities for prisoners who have retained their franchise entitlements; increasing the amount of deposit required with nomination and varying the conditions under which deposits may be saved; preservation of the voting entitlement of Australian citizens posted overseas in the service of the Crown, and retention on the roll of the name of an elector temporarily absent from his address; precluding nomination for election to the Australian Parliament of a member of the Legislative Assembly of the Northern Territory or the Australian Capital Territory; prevention of a person from nominating as a candidate for more than one Federal election held on the same day; protection of candidates against the issue of misleading how-to-vote cards; change in qualifications for enrolment, voting and candidature from ‘British Subject’ to status of a British Subject’; eliminating the need to state the address of author in the case of broadcasting or telecasting of political matters; the manner of announcing the name of an author of political matter on radio or television; responsibility for publication of matter or comment of a political nature in the Press between issue of the writ and the close of the poll; removal of the restriction on exhibition of electoral posters within a hall or room being used for political party meetings; provision of support staff for Distribution Commissioners; authority for alterations to the roll when a street is renamed or renumbered; lowering the permissible age of Presiding Officers or Assistant Presiding Officers to 18 years; appointment of substitute Assistant Returning Officer at places outside Australia in certain circumstances; increases in penalties for failure to enrol; the provision of fines as an alternative to imprisonment where relevant; amounts of monetary penalties to match imprisonment terms; amendment of questions to be put to voters by Presiding Officers; conversion of distances to metric measurements; use of ‘given names’ in lieu of ‘Christian names’: candidates making gifts, donations etc. [More…]
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Under the existing preferential system, each voter, irrespective of his individual wishes in the matter, is compelled to rank in order of preference all the candidates on the ballot paper, whether this requires the marking of only two squares or, as was the case in the most recent Senate election in New South Wales, no less than 73. [More…]
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This often means that an elector, in order to record a valid vote, is compelled to express a preference for candidates whom he may not know or for whom he has an extreme dislike. [More…]
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The existing system of preferential voting has resulted in an average informal vote of about 10 per cent at normal Senate elections. [More…]
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Thus, in order to vote, patients confined to bed must at present make an application for a postal vote prior to polling day. [More…]
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This Bill also makes provision for votes to be recorded at specially designated hospitals and institutions before polling day itself. [More…]
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Thus, the past practice of party workers invading such institutions for the apparent purpose of assisting postal voters should be largely eliminated. [More…]
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As the Government is particularly anxious to prevent unscrupulous persons taking advantage of aged or infirm electors, it is also proposed to prohibit the inspection of postal vote applications for the purpose of listing of names of persons who applied for postal votes at an election, except where such listing is genuinely required in connection with an inquiry into possible malpractices. [More…]
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Under a proposed provision, the only postal vote application forms which may be used at an election will be those specified or declared to be applicable by the Chief Australian Electoral Officer. [More…]
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This proposal is designed to curb the current dubious practice of having thousands of postal vote applications completed months in advance of the next ensuing election, then forwarding these to electors at or about the time of the issue of writs, without any precise knowledge as to whether the persons concerned are, in fact, entitled to vote by post. [More…]
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This Bill also clarifies the circumstances under which an Australian citizen in the service of the Crown posted overseas may retain his right to vote at Federal elections. [More…]
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I think the concept is widely accepted so may I suggest that we vote on the title of the part. [More…]
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I understand that the Attorney-General has said that if this amendment we are being asked to vote upon is carried he will bring in also a motion to institute an oath of allegiance. [More…]
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Therefore if there is a vote ‘no ‘ when the amendment is put and it is declared that the noes have it, I will seek a division. [More…]
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The 6 Family Court judgesthat is what we are limited to at the moment; there is no licence for any more by virtue by the vote of the Committee- will try to get this enlightened legislation off the ground. [More…]
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So I thought that before I made a judgment with my open vote I had best listen very carefully to what was said. [More…]
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Having said all that, I indicate that 1 would like to see us vote on this question of a second ground. [More…]
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If the vote is unsuccessful, when it comes time to consider my amendment I will not insist on proceeding with that part of it which deals with fault. [More…]
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I will look at the vote on Senator Sir Kenneth Anderson’s amendment and Senator Laucke ‘s amendment and decide from that point that if the Committee is going to reject any idea of a second ground I will accept that verdict. [More…]
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Whilst I have some reservations in relation to the matter, in light of my point of view, I will cast my vote for the amendment. [More…]
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The issue is whether the decision of the Government, backed by the unanimous vote of the Parliament, to construct a power plant at Newport is to be overridden by the decision initially of a few trade union leaders who in most cases have not even consulted their membership and who, in any event, even if the membership had been consulted and had supported them, have no right to place themselves in the role of government. [More…]
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Was Mr Grenville a member of one of the International Labour Organisation’s commissions and the only person from all ofthe participating nations to vote against a resolution condemning the Government of Chile. [More…]
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This was granted but there was no discussion or vote on the resolution in the Committee since il was not related to its agenda. [More…]
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Consequently the group’s deliberations and the manner in which votes are taken are not a matter of public record from which I can indicate how Mr Grenville might have voted on the resolution. [More…]
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Your petitioners most humbly pray that the Senate in Parliament assembled should vote against the Bill in its present form, allow public consideration of amendments and then vote to so amend the Bill as to strengthen and support marriage and the family in a manner accept to the people of Australia. [More…]
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We must remember that most of those who voted in this poll plumped for less than one year. [More…]
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But when a poll was taken of those who wanted a period of separation of 2 years the vote over Australia was 3.7 per cent and in Western Australia, from which this amendment proceeds, it was 2 per cent. [More…]
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Naturally I will cast my vote in the Committee for the 2-year period. [More…]
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I have said that I will vote for the period of 2 years separation because the amendment to make the period 3 years has been defeated. [More…]
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The fact is that the Committee of the Whole by its vote last night adopted the legislative principle that dissolution of marriage should be only on proof of irretrievable breakdown. [More…]
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There does not appear to be any other speaker to my amendment and, although I do not want to delay the vote, 1 should like to say a few words in answer to some of the arguments that have been advanced. [More…]
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As was the case with the amendment moved by Senators Durack and Chaney, I hope that we will be able to get a vote on this amendment, which in my opinion will be of benefit to the Bill. [More…]
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The vote will be taken separately on both parts so that the Committee can clearly decide between them. [More…]
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I suggest that the Senate vote on each matter. [More…]
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Senator Greenwood to relate his remarks directly to his amendment, and we may be able to get a vote. [More…]
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I am going to vote against this amendment but I will not seek to divide the Committee. [More…]
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It is one of the Committee’s proposals which is not good, and I will vote against it. [More…]
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I will vote against the amendment, but 1 think it will mean very little in practice. [More…]
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I was prepared to listen to the debate and vote accordingly. [More…]
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More often than not I voted on the losing side. [More…]
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I believe I am being fair and just and am doing the right thing by the Senate in asking the AttorneyGeneral to tell us the program as to when this Bill, passed at its third reading stage here tonight, with my vote, will be presented for a first reading in the other place. [More…]
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That, as I understand it, denies the expression of a point of view which, even if it was ultimately not to commend itself to the Senate which had made up its mind to vote in the way that it did, ought to be allowed to be expressed, because that is the way in which our whole system functions. [More…]
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If there was a division on the third reading- I do not propose to call for a division- I would reverse the vote that I made on the second reading in support of this Bill and vote against the third reading because that crucial ground has been destroyed by the unwillingness of the Senate to recognise that it has made a mockery of the whole question of separation. [More…]
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On a number of occasions I voted against what was being put by members of the Standing Committee, including members from my Party, and I was defeated. [More…]
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The mere fact that the vote was not pushed to a division should not be allowed to gloss over the fact that there was a clear division of opinion and in the vote on a number of matters of some importance, not of overwhelming importance, I was defeated on the view which I took and in which I persisted. [More…]
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The Government Party promised that honourable senators were entitled to a free vote and they had a free vote. [More…]
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The mere fact that there might be some concordance of opinion amongst them should not detract from the fact that they clearly had and exercised a free vote. [More…]
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I believe we should now put it to the vote. [More…]
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The State Government would not suffer as a State administration from lost revenue because the Grants Commission would make it up, and what we vote on here year by year would reflect the added sustenance given by the Grants Commission if the State Government acted as it ought to act. [More…]
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But is it more important for politicians to know the result at midnight on Saturday or for electors to have a proper opportunity to vote? [More…]
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If there is any delay in the counting of postal votes, a lot of it must lie at the foot of the postal system rather than at the foot of the electoral system. [More…]
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I do not believe in taking away the right of those people who have had the right of a postal vote up to this time. [More…]
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Having regard to the percentage of informal votes for this place sometimes, perhaps we should have symbols too. [More…]
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In the Australian Capital Territory I understand that with optional preferential voting the informal vote still ran to 1 per cent, yet the Territory has the highest number of tertiary graduates in Australia. [More…]
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Another argument put by the Government is that optional preferential voting will reduce the number of informal votes. [More…]
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I understand that the results of the last election for the House of Representatives- this proposed system is to apply to both Houses- showed that the average number of candidates for each electorate was four which meant that an elector had to fill in only three out of the 4 squares to have a valid vote because, as we all know but do not tell electors, they do not have to fill in the last square. [More…]
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I think the electorate was able to vote one, two, three. [More…]
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As I understand it, in the election for the House of Representatives this year the informal vote was only 1.92 percent of the total votes cast throughout Australia. [More…]
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Of course, this varies from electorate to electorate, but I am talking about an informal vote of 1.92 per cent. [More…]
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In fact, since 1900 the percentage of informal votes for House of Representatives elections has hardly moved, up or down. [More…]
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As to the Government’s argument on informal votes for House of Representatives elections, I do not think that has much validity. [More…]
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Turning to Senate elections, if one uses the argument that optional preferential voting will reduce the percentage of informal votes, I do not know how the Government can attempt to substantiate it. [More…]
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I do not believe it is valid to take the results of an electorate here, an electorate there and an electorate somewhere else and talk about the percentage of informal votes within the electorate generally. [More…]
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What one must do is look at the informal votes cast in Australia because, after all, we are talking about a Bill for an Act which will affect all electors in Australia in elections for the whole of Australia. [More…]
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As I understand it, the informal vote at the last election for the Senate was 10.77 per cent. [More…]
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The informal vote for the Senate has always been higher than the informal vote for the House of Representatives, and this has applied since Federation. [More…]
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For those and the other reasons which I have enumerated, when the question for the second reading is put the Opposition will vote against it. [More…]
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-Mr Acting Deputy President, I rise to support the Leader of the Opposition in the Senate (Senator Withers) in what is, as I think many of us will say, a regrettable but necessary course of having to vote against the Bill in total. [More…]
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It is for those reasons, among others, that we must regrettably vote to reject the whole of the Bill. [More…]
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It retains the preferential system but it enables a person to vote for one person- for the Liberal Party, Country Party or Labor Party man that he chooses- and, because the preferences of the parties have been registered, that one vote will bring with it the total preferential scale of the parties. [More…]
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Thus they suggest that there would be much less informal voting as a person would vote only once. [More…]
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But if a person wanted to vote in a different way- in a different order of preference -he could write out his preferences on his ballot paper. [More…]
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There is a lot to be said for the registration of how-to-vote cards. [More…]
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Those who have been active in electoral matters over many years know that every now and then there is some sort of attempt at fraud and some effort to try to fake howtovote cards in the interests of a particular candidate. [More…]
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I think that there is a lot of merit in the registration of the how-to-vote cards of candidates. [More…]
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I know that again one must consider the people, including the strict Jewish community which would not be able to vote, and whether it would be adequate for them to record a postal vote. [More…]
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He said that in his view the requirement that voters must indicate the order of their preference for all candidates- I quote: . [More…]
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might have the effect of continuing to produce a fairly high informal vote, it definitely precludes the possibly greater evil of exhausted votes- that is, votes which become exhausted in the process of transfer. [More…]
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one result of a system that does not require electors to vote for all candidates whose names appear in the ballot paper is that a candidate may be declared elected although the total number of votes credited to him falls short or the required quota. [More…]
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At the parliamentary election in New South Wales in 1922 and 1925, the exhausted votes, which far outnumber the informal votes, were the cause of much dissatisfaction and disputation. [More…]
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Under proportional representation a very low preference may become either an effective vote when candidates are excluded from the bottom of the ballot paper, or a fraction of an effective vote when candidates are excluded from the top of the paper. [More…]
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I am not going to enter into the detailed arguments about what is being done to alter the right to cast postal votes. [More…]
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The fact that someone has the right to get a postal vote is not the same as having the right to go and cast a vote. [More…]
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That means that with the present arrangements under which the polling booths are open from 8 a.m. to 8 p.m. people of the Jewish faith or Seventh Day Adventists might be excluded from casting a vote themselves for about 10 weeks of the year, that is, between the end of November and the middle of February. [More…]
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This proposition in the Bill, if it is carried, will make it impossible for people who adhere to those 2 religious faiths to cast a vote in person because it is their sabbath and they are specifically forbidden to carry out activities such as casting a vote on those days. [More…]
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People of every group have a right to vote and have a right to cast their own vote for themselves. [More…]
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People of that faith have to wait until an hour or half an hour before the polls close, and then there is a great rush on the polling places because that is the only time on election day when they are permitted under our law to cast their own vote. [More…]
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I intervened in this debate simply to make those 2 points and to join with my leader, Senator Withers, and other members of the Opposition in saying that the Bill in its present form is unacceptable and that I, with my colleagues, will vote against the Electoral Laws Amendment Bill 1974. [More…]
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I intend to vote for the second reading of the Bill in the rather hopeless search for an opportunity to deal with those issues on which I am sure all honourable senators would be in agreement. [More…]
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Although I intend to vote for the second reading of the Bill, this does not mean that I give my support to a number of the issues which 1 think have been fairly well stated by the Leader of the Opposition in the Senate (Senator Withers). [More…]
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This was particularly so in relation to the fact that the Liberal Party advertised widely that a vote for any minor party was a vote for the Labor Party. [More…]
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I would certainly vote against a clause which attempted to extend that provision to the Territories. [More…]
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This in theory is right but it is right only if there is something else available besides a full preferential vote, and that is full knowledge of the people for whom one is voting. [More…]
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If three or four of them are seeking a position within the organisation one is able, because of a knowledge of them, to judge the order in which one should vote for them. [More…]
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Yet the electors are bound to vote for each of the 73 candidates. [More…]
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I understand some people on the Opposition benches would disagree with Senator Hall’s proposition of moving towards a party system but would seek to adopt the system that some of the American States have where people say that they want to vote for a particular party and that they do not care who the people are. [More…]
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People can still vote before the Saturday. [More…]
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1 know honourable senators opposite take the view that this is still discrimination because the people do not vote in the normal way. [More…]
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People would still have their right to vote. [More…]
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Still I take the point that the people might like to go along on the Saturday and vote in the same way as others vote. [More…]
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Quite obviously, when this vote can be discerned, it does not follow in many cases the normal voting pattern throughout the community. [More…]
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I would not be surprised if he were to say that he will vote Labor at the next South Australian election but that he will vote Liberal in federal politics. [More…]
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The Minister has already had a very unpleasant shock from the reactions of the island communities and the reservation communities which are freely elected by an ordinary democratic vote. [More…]
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Anyone who has the interests of Queensland Aborigines at heart will vote for the Bill when it comes before the Senate. [More…]
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With the policy standing as it is in that regard, the example of what another type of Labor government will do in a State and the powers that the Minister asks for now, I must vote against this Bill. [More…]
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We are asking honourable members opposite to vote for our amendment to increase the loan from $9,000 to $ 1 5,000. [More…]
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I remind him that the measure we were debating last week was not in the votes or any of the clauses of a Government measure. [More…]
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It was one on which there was a free vote. [More…]
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I hope that the electors of Queensland will- only they will be able to show this on Saturday by their vote; they can speak for the people of Australia; it is a big and healthy State and can speak for the rest of this land- give a hint to the Government that it should either improve its ways or get out and make way for the return of a Liberal government. [More…]
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I second the amendment to the motion because I believe it puts succinctly what we feel and what the people will show they realise is correct when next they have the opportunity to cast their vote. [More…]
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Has his attention been drawn to the fact that the concluding questions in the questionnaire, Nos 40 and 41, seek the following information: ‘Your last vote- Labor, Liberal, Australia Party, Democratic Labor Party or other’, and ‘Your next vote’, and similar party names are set out? [More…]
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If we fail to adjourn it we shall vote against the clauses that are opposed by those members of the Aboriginal communities who have made their views known by way of telegram and other contact both to the Government and the Opposition. [More…]
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If that motion is not successful we will at the Committee stage vote against the provisions of the Bill to which exception is taken. [More…]
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If the Minister wishes to propose another course of action I do not think it will make any major difference provided there is an opportunity for everyone who wishes to speak to speak and there is a clear opportunity for us to have a vote on the concept. [More…]
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Senate and which we have explained indicate that they want time to allow the people on the reserves- not the other people- to vote on this matter. [More…]
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I think that the Government and the Minister would be well advised to drop or at least to defer that part of the Bill which deals with this matter until an adequate vote or plebiscite of some kind can be taken of all people on all of these reserves and islands. [More…]
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The Hansard report shows that I neither participated in the debate nor did I participate in the vote. [More…]
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It so happened I was paired on that occasion, and I did not vote. [More…]
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Has he not noticed the vote of the Aborigines in the recent Northern Territory election? [More…]
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They did not vote Labor. [More…]
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I cannot find the words to explain my reluctance to vote with Senator Wood. [More…]
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If I could vote in this House simply to excise that clause and leave the rest of the machinery run on, I would do so. [More…]
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I think in this case we should stand up to our responsibilities and vote against this clause if we feel that way. [More…]
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After free and frank discussions with the Minister- I am sure such discussions are available to any member of the Senate- I am willing to vote for this measure. [More…]
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Before honourable senators vote lightly on this matter, following party lines, they ought to consider what they are doing in relation to the furture efficiency of the Corporation and the growers welfare. [More…]
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If the Government is unable to proceed in that way, we will have no alternative but to vote against clause 38 entirely. [More…]
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There was a vote against the proposition. [More…]
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In my speech last week I threw down a challenge to both the Minister for Aboriginal Affairs (Senator Cavanagh) and the Queensland Government to give the Aboriginal people who are members of the communities on reserves in Queensland the opportunity to vote on whether they wanted these clauses included in the Bill. [More…]
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Despite what he has said today, I still maintain that the Aboriginal people of Queensland, mainly those who live in Aboriginal communities and who are affected by the Queensland Act, should be given the opportunity to vote on whether they want these clauses retained in this Bill. [More…]
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He knows that a stranger to the Island stood over the voters when they went to vote for that famous election. [More…]
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Deeral will probably win it because of the hokey-pokey of the voting system but he did not get the majority vote. [More…]
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We have heard from Senator Bonner who came to this Parliament on the Aboriginal vote. [More…]
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The Minister said that the men were removed because they might influence the vote. [More…]
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They had every right to vote in Townville. [More…]
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My son voted in Townsville but he did not vote for the Labor Party. [More…]
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As has been indicated by Senator Durack, the Opposition apparently will vote against the measure. [More…]
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I will vote for the Bill as a palliative measure but I say that the Government is doing nothing to meet the major challenge in front of it. [More…]
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I direct my question to the Leader of the Government in the Senate and preface it with these remarks: Yesterday I asked him a question about the Prime Minister insulting the intelligence of the people of Queensland as a result of the vote on Saturday. [More…]
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It would have been an impossible state of affairs if, having secured over one-third- 36 per cent- of the votes, the Labor Party had ended up with only one or two seats in a House of 82 members. [More…]
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I understand that in some areasfor instance, Rockhampton- the vote held very well. [More…]
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I accept the right of the Parliament to hold a Joint Sitting and I will abide by the verdict that it reaches, but we will have our say and will vote as our consciences dictate in the meantime. [More…]
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I am going to vote for these Bills because I want to keep the scheme contributory, but that does not say that I support the Government’s plans in the slightest. [More…]
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There is no way that I will vote to support the increase of 1.3S per cent in taxation to fund this levy. [More…]
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I would expect him to support the gentlemen in these health benefit organisations who elect themselves; organisations which have been described in a rather quaint way by Mr Chipp as cooperatives, yet give their members no vote; which give their members no say in how their funds are used; which lend their public relations officers to the Opposition during election time; which distribute propaganda paid for by the contributors to their funds, to be distributed by doctors and others during election time without asking for the contributors ‘ permission. [More…]
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However, at the appropriate stage, I shall move to delete the words ‘or Territory’ and then vote for the amendment. [More…]
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I think all honourable senators know what will be the outcome of a subsequent vote, but the Government is not prepared to accept the amendment as amended. [More…]
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The Opposition will vote against the clause as it now stands. [More…]
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As I have indicated, the Opposition will give its vote in favour of the Bill but will do so with some recognition of the features of the Bill which are controversial and which we would prefer not to see in the legislation. [More…]
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I intend to persist in my vote even though it is one vote among sixty. [More…]
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But I would say this: The Minister has put his proposition in a blanket form and if we are to express our opinion fully and properly- I do not disagree with his disagreement to the amendments to clause 5-1 must say that as one vote, and the only one I suppose, that will disagree with him I will be put in a somewhat foolish position of having to oppose his view on clause 5, which I agree with, because of my own amendments. [More…]
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It is a pretty moot point because I will be only one vote. [More…]
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But I want to say in words that I do not oppose in the way I vote the Minister’s intention in relation to clause 5 of this Bill. [More…]
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I suggest we put the question to the vote. [More…]
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Otherwise, I will vote against this amendment. [More…]
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I merely content myself with saying that we will vote against the Bill. [More…]
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If he does not like it he can vote against it. [More…]
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It is typical of the way Nero fiddled while Rome was burning, and unfortunately for this country we have to wait some months before the judgment of the people can be vindicated by an emphatic vote of denunciation of people who have done such dire things to the welfare of this country. [More…]
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I rise, and my colleagues knew I was proposing to rise on this matter, not because the Opposition intends to vote against the clauses, but to indicate a concern which ought to be raised. [More…]
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Whilst acknowledging the humour with which Senator Wheeldon treats the situation, it is something which the Australian people, as indicated by their vote in Queensland last Saturday, do not regard in the same way as he does. [More…]
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I envisaged that yesterday I would attend this House and vote to give the Opposition the full opportunity to debate the issues which had been very well publicised over the weekend. [More…]
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Therefore my position as one who would have helped- I would have had a vital vote in this House- is that I am left just as ignorant of the charges as I was last weekend. [More…]
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I do not think that the farmers, who I am sure Senator Drake-Brockman hopes will vote for him, would think that there should have been any less spent on the wool support scheme, for example. [More…]
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That would meet Senator Poyser’s point about the Senate not sitting and my point about giving the Committee of the Whole a chance to vote on each item if any senator is not happy with it at the end of the period. [More…]
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I am prepared to go quietly now and have a vote on the matter, if a vote is necessary. [More…]
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It is unfortunate that most of the Senate has to come in and vote without knowledge of the debate that has gone on, but I hope they will not take the attitude of further restricting the rights of senators especially backbenchers. [More…]
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Senator Sir KENNETH ANDERSON (New South Wales) (5.27)- In view of what the Minister has said, I think we will have to vote on this proposal. [More…]
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One simply asks a question in the ordinary way.I think we should resolve the matter by way of vote. [More…]
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There are many motions moved and amendments made in relation to which it is the desire of an individual, a party or a group that the public know how every member in the Senate voted or did not vote. [More…]
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Therefore, I believe that we would be giving away the right of any honourable senator to make the Senate members stand and be counted to have it go into the records whether such members voted and, if they did vote, how they voted. [More…]
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It is this: When a division is not called, the vote is taken on the voices. [More…]
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The letter stated that although I was Deputy Chairman of the Senate Select Committee on the Metric System of Weights and Measures I did not vote for the adoption of the metric system. [More…]
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This was because the report was adopted by the unanimous vote of the Senate. [More…]
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Therefore, I believe- I do not want to labour the point- that we must retain the right to have the names of those who vote this way or that way, or who absent themselves from voting, put in the record. [More…]
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If I am on the successful side of a vote taken in division, I want to prove that I am on the successful side. [More…]
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They would do so with the knowledge that a certain senator, because of his religious beliefs, would vote for such and such a proposal. [More…]
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In fact, the senator may not vote that way and he can prove how he voted at any time. [More…]
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Everyone knows that when a vote is taken here we have a division to record how senators vote. [More…]
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-We had a free vote in relation to that Bill. [More…]
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But honourable senators can remember occasions upon which there was not a free vote in the Senate and, for instance, the Opposition and the Government might have agreed upon something and we had the opposition of the members of the Australian Democratic Labor Party. [More…]
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They would call for a division knowing that the result of it would be 55 votes to 5 votes. [More…]
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The division was called only for the purpose of having the vote recorded in Hansard, and so it should be. [More…]
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But such senators called for a division because they wanted their votes recorded. [More…]
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We had an exciting experience in January 1 966 when only one senator wanted to vote against a proposal. [More…]
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He wanted his vote recorded. [More…]
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So we altered the Standing Orders to make provision for his vote to be recorded in Hansard and he voted against the proposal. [More…]
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I suppose that it could be said that honourable senators could be satisfied if they voted on the successful side in deciding a question. [More…]
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For example, we want to prove to the wine growers of the Murray region how Senator Young voted in relation to the wine tax. [More…]
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It is a bit of a paradox that the proposed Standing Order states that senators, having won a vote on the voices, cannot call for a division because they have won it. [More…]
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If a vote is won on the voices as declared by the President or the Chairman of Committees, the senators who have won the vote will not say that they want a division. [More…]
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A situation could arise in which members of a senator’s party have spoken against that senator and then they may shelter under the fact that the vote is taken on the voices. [More…]
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If that is what honourable senators want I will not vote against it but I would like to see the standing order left as it is. [More…]
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I think that is a matter which at some time will have to be decided by getting all senators to vote. [More…]
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Otherwise the Hansard record will not give any indication of how I voted. [More…]
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-The journals of the Senate do not show how I vote if there is not a division. [More…]
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Therefore there is no record but the Hansard of the Senate is the propaganda sheet to the public, to substantiate what I tell the public, to show that 1 voted as I said I voted. [More…]
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If we press for a division, as this matter has not been caucused and the vote would be a nonparty vote, honourable senators will come into this chamber without being aware of the subject we are debating. [More…]
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I am not allowed to cast a reflection on a vote of the Senate but Senator Cavanagh got away with it, and I support what he said about that too. [More…]
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Consideration was given to a proposal that the Senate should vote on the subject matter of an urgency motion rather than the question of rising until an unusual time. [More…]
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Consideration was given to the proposal that the Senate should vote on the subject matter of the urgency motion rather than the question of rising until an unusual time and, to that end, that the words in the standing order ‘that the Senate at its rising adjourn to any day or hour other than that fixed for the next ordinary meeting of the Senate’ should be left out. [More…]
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The man affected is the man who works for wages, the man who in his innocence and trust helped to vote this Government into power and the kind of Australian who will vote it out of power sooner or later- I hope sooner. [More…]
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The Senate will now vote upon this matter. [More…]
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The basic principle of proportional representation is that votes cast for each party should be reflected in seats won by that party. [More…]
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In order to give expression to this principle, it is necessary that in the filling of a casual vacancy, the representation of the parties should remain a reflection of the votes cast for those parties at the previous election. [More…]
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If a senator is succeeded by a senator of another party, then the representation of parties proportionate to their vote is destroyed. [More…]
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Party polled 50 per cent of the formal vote compared with 41.67 per cent for the LiberalCountry Party. [More…]
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Mr Lewis proposes to take it upon himself to give 60 per cent of the seats to the Liberal-Country Party that polled about 40 per cent of the vote, and give 40 per cent of the seats to the Labor Party that polled 50 per cent of the seats. [More…]
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It is surely not unreasonable to describe such an action as an outrage of democracy and a denial of the New South Wales voters’ democratic rights. [More…]
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Could Senators Marriott, Drake-Brockman and Laucke fail but to support the convention which brought them to this place on the vote of Labor politicians in their State? [More…]
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It got 36 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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I suggest that it is complete hypocrisy for anyone to say that the threatened act on the part of the New South Wales Government will not disturb the vote cast by the people of that State. [More…]
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Despite the fact that a mere 7 months before the people of New South Wales by their votes had elected Mr Murphy and other Labor candidates to this Senate, Mr Lewis is now cutting across the expressed wish of the people of New South Wales and determining to rip up that convention and that vote. [More…]
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I understand that he said: ‘One vote one value is’- expletive deleted- ‘nonsense’. [More…]
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I thought that his attitude in supporting the Queensland attack on one vote one value as a principle of justice in the Australian community was something that could be excused as a new Premier’s enthusiasm. [More…]
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I remind the House that the Leader of the Opposition said that to vote for a party ticket in a Senate election is a denigration of democracy. [More…]
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Under the Playford Administration in South Australia there was never a vote taken in the Party room. [More…]
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He joins the Liberal Premier of New South Wales in everything but the vote which he will give to the amendment here today. [More…]
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He believed in one vote one value, especially in relation to the upper House in South Australia. [More…]
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That would be an unsatisfactory situation when we consider the next position, that is, that if we can distil any logic from the speech of the Leader of the Opposition (Senator Withers) last night the Opposition would then vote against the Government’s motion. [More…]
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Idiots who refer to one vote, one value in propagating an argument appropriate to the Senate ought to accept silence in this place for a month. [More…]
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Having dealt with that, the Constitution then went on to concede to the newly created Federal Parliament the right to legislate as to the method of choosing electors, having prescribed that in choosing senators each elector shall have one vote. [More…]
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It is a real knot in the log with regard to the provisions for proportional representation because the only true way to preserve the proportion for which the system is devised is to give the various shades, groups, parties or independents of political opinion that go before the people the right to be represented in this chamber proportionately to the vote that such groups or parties secure - Debate interrupted. [More…]
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I suggest, even upon those rather superficial considerations in which I have engaged at greater length than probably is pleasing to the impatience of some of the impulsive debaters who preceded me, that an analysis of the situation shows that so far from subverting the Constitution by giving my vote to my Leader’s amendment I have with more care than some who have preceded me analysed the provisions of the Constitution and sought to act completely in compliance with the specific provisions of the Constitution and the practices, not merely the conventions, that we have established. [More…]
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It would be presumptuous of me, unless invited by the Houses of Parliament of New South Wales, to say what in my opinion would be the proper course on this occasion, just as presumptuous as it would be of them if they sought to offer me advice on my vote on off-shore oil legislation in respect of which I voted for an extension of Federal power. [More…]
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The second is that they must believe that when they vote at an election to choose their representatives in Parliament they are taking effective action and an action which will retain its effect for the term for which they have voted. [More…]
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The second requirement of law and order in a democracy is that the people should be assured that when they vote at an election their vote has some meaning. [More…]
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If you are going to depart from the principles which govern a parliamentary democracy and make enough people think that, though they voted in an election and elected a party to govern, that is really meaningless and all sorts of steps can be taken to abort what they have tried to do with that vote, those people who are already dissatisfied because of economic circumstances and do not like the economic system will also have a contempt for the political system. [More…]
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I was one of a number of people in the Liberal Party meeting room yesterday who forced these moderate Liberals to knuckle under to a majority vote. [More…]
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He said it was clear that if our amendment was defeated a vote would be taken on the Government’s motion, we would vote against that and we assumed there would be a tied vote on both matters. [More…]
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I suggest that that was a device to launch a political attack on the Opposition while pretending, in the end, through a vote to support us. [More…]
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He had been elected by the people of Queensland with 16% per cent of the vote. [More…]
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The people who voted for his Party apparently were entitled to substitute representation by his Party. [More…]
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How ridiculous is the situation when a serious contender for a House of Representatives seat is allowed only $500 to cover advertising, broadcasting and television, publishing and issuing posters and ‘how-to- vote’ cards, telephones and telegrams, committee rooms, places for public meetings and scrutineers. [More…]
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It was prepared to adjourn consideration of it until today only because of the vote of the Senate. [More…]
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-I ask the Minister for Foreign Affairs: When is the vote to be taken in the United Nations to elect the next President of the United Nations General Assembly? [More…]
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Early in this situation I was asked- accused really- by Senator Sir Magnus Cormack whether we were canvassing votes from the Third World group, etc. [More…]
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I pointed out then that this was quite ridiculous because the Third World group does not have votes. [More…]
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It would be a little like Malcolm Fraser in his bid for the leadership of the Liberal Party canvassing votes in the Labor Party. [More…]
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Wherever our sympathies lie, we would not have any effect on the vote. [More…]
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He asked when the vote is to be taken. [More…]
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The convention is that a vote is not taken. [More…]
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The Opposition claimed in 1974 that ‘this referendum will make the Senate a rubber stamp of a socialist, centralist Labor Government’ and that ‘the Government is being deceitful- the question you will vote on does not explain the real proposed law’. [More…]
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I believe that it is important for the Senate to vote on and resolve clearly this important principle. [More…]
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I am willing to vote for Senator Durack ‘s amendment on the basis that he last proposed it, that is, that some better wording and closer definitions are drafted in the interim period. [More…]
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But the point is that the Opposition has said that it is now going to seek a vote on proposed clause 6b. [More…]
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I feel that since I believe I can see 2 grave dangers I ought to point them out to the Senate before that vote is taken in the hope that it will induce the Opposition to accept the undertaking that has been given by the Minister with regard, in effect, to separate legislation. [More…]
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-Of course it could be, but to pass it in this form as the Opposition is inviting the Senate by its vote in a few minutes so to do, in my submission would not be responsible for that reason. [More…]
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I vote for it knowing that in the event of controversy the Government’s will will prevail. [More…]
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That is his right, but if the honourable senator decides to use his prior right and assumes how I am going to vote, that is his business. [More…]
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I thought I might be able to say how I am going to vote instead of the honourable senator telling me how I will vote. [More…]
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I outlined quite clearly to the Committee how I proposed to vote on the 4 amendments before the House. [More…]
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I indicated that I would vote against the amendment which would increase the membership of the Commission from the Legislative Assembly from 1 to 2. [More…]
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Mr Chairman, to get this vote over, if your declaration is in favour of the Opposition we will not call for a division. [More…]
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A nomination may be made by a community, church, business, trade union, sporting or other organisation of Darwin citizens or by not less than 2 persons entitled to vote at elections for the Legislative Assembly - [More…]
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I should think that perhaps the Opposition ought to view it in the light of the fact that it will have the same numbers as it has now and vote for the disallowance of a regulation that is objectionable to it. [More…]
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I suggest to the Opposition that in this almost penultimate vote on this Bill it should demonstrate a little faith in the Government which has put this Bill forward with commendable speed. [More…]
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Senator Greenwood voted to deny direct Senate representation for the Northern Territory, and he did so vehemently. [More…]
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It is a pretty shallow base and it is humbug for Senator Greenwood to prate about parliamentary democracy when he has voted, and led his Party to vote, against the inclusion of representatives of the Northern Territory in this chamber. [More…]
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Next the Government will be wanting to take away the right of individuals to vote in secrecy. [More…]
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How does one measure in monetary terms the fact that a party organisation can call in aid- most parties can- an enormous number of volunteers who not only hand out how-to-vote cards but who distribute pamphlets and who canvass for candidates? [More…]
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Has the Minister seen the article in today’s Melbourne Age’ newspaper entitled ‘Vote on Challenge to Free Legal Aid ‘? [More…]
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However, I understand that Senator Hall has made known his intention to vote against the Bill, not because he objects to the major clause in it, which compels political parties to disclose the sources of their funds, but because he has some reservations about some of the supplementary clauses. [More…]
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-If Senator Webster still shares that concern or still holds suspicions about suspect sources of funds for political parties which he expressed on that occasion about contributions to Labor Party funds, I again invite him to vote for this Bill. [More…]
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I also invite him, as an honourable senator, to stand by the undertaking he gave on 26 September 1974 to vote for this Bill. [More…]
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Among the reams of sophistry which the Opposition has presented as an apology for a case against this Bill, there are a number of references to the freedom of the voter. [More…]
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It is suggested, in some way which is never spelled out, that passing this legislation will impinge upon the freedom of the voter to record a free and secret vote and so on, and upon the freedom of people to stand for Parliament. [More…]
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At that time I used to think that if the Country Party were ever given the opportunity to vote for a Bill such as this it would do so and then its Liberal Party colleagues no longer would have any credibility when they circulated scurrilous stories about dirty financial dealings within the Country Party. [More…]
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I am no longer appalled, because I now know that the Country Party will not vote for this Bill. [More…]
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All the Country Party needs to do to resolve this dispute quite decisively is to vote for this Bill. [More…]
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This Bill has the effect of attracting people in the community to say: ‘Here is a government devoted to cleanliness in government’. [More…]
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I indicate the stance that the Government takes, through quite highly publicised means, to pronounce that it believes in a one vote one value principle. [More…]
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A carefully publicised and thought-out operation can put into people’s minds the idea that one vote one value is the type of electoral system which we should have in Australia. [More…]
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His pronouncements, as we can see from his various speeches, are that it should not be one vote one value but that we should have elections on a population basis. [More…]
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The main point I make relates to the announcement of a belief in one vote one value. [More…]
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1 spoke of the one vote one value principle. [More…]
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Have honourable senators noted that a Labor socialist Government which proposes that one vote one value is the true type of electoral system was able to nominate who would be the electoral officers and the redistribution commissioners to give the Government the criteria on how the electorate should be broken up and how there would be the first fully elected Legislative Assembly for the Northern Territory? [More…]
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This Labor Government, for which 1 have the least respect of any government in Australia, proposes one vote one value. [More…]
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This has not been done on the basis of one vote, one value. [More…]
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We often say, ‘one man, one vote’, but that is not enough. [More…]
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It should be ‘one man, one vote, one dollar’. [More…]
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It is a mockery to say that the average man’s vote equals the millionaire s vote, so long as the millionaire’s vote can be supplemented with a $100,000 contribution to buy television time that will influence thousands of other voters. [More…]
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I went along to vote there. [More…]
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I asked them to put the ballot paper in an envelope because I was not confident that my vote would be counted. [More…]
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I wrote to Sir Robert Askin and asked him what he had done about my vote. [More…]
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Then I received a letter telling me that my vote had been counted. [More…]
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We often say, ‘one man, one vote’, but that is not enough. [More…]
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It should be ‘one man, one vote, one dollar’. [More…]
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It is a mockery to say that the average man’s vote equals the millionaire s vote, so long as the millionaire’s vote can be supplemented with a $100,000 contribution to buy television time that will influence thousands of other votes. [More…]
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Third, we must work for fuller and more complete voter registration and voter participation in elections. [More…]
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It isn’t simply a matter of people being too lazy or uninterested to vote. [More…]
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In years past, blacks found it almost impossible to vote in some areas, and in recent years college students have often been the victims of discriminatory registration procedures. [More…]
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Firstly, of course, is the right to vote and the ability to vote. [More…]
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I think it would be quite clear to everybody that I oppose this Bill and I trust that it will be defeated when the vote is taken for the second reading. [More…]
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We found, and in fact are still finding, people being elected to a council on a vote as low as 25 per cent of the potential vote in municipal elections. [More…]
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To secure for local government a voice and a vote on the Loan Council. [More…]
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Opposition to the proposals contained in the Bills can only be read as a vote against what practically every Australian proclaims as desirable objectives. [More…]
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There is no question about it- Mr Whitlam ‘s idea of bringing this type of legislation forward is to frighten senators who may vote on some occasion to bring about a double dissolution of the Parliament that their terms of office will expire at the time the House of Representatives faces such an election. [More…]
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I remember one occasion when the late Senator McKenna came into this chamber, looked about and wondered upon which side he was supposed to vote because the Parties were so mixed. [More…]
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On that occasion a vote was being taken on a matter involving the sugar industry. [More…]
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As far as I am concerned, people in the Parliament have the right to express themselves and to vote according to their conscience. [More…]
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I was not elected to this chamber to be a yes man; I was elected to this chamber to speak and to vote according to the way I feel. [More…]
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It was far closer than a five to one vote on this referendum question. [More…]
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With regard to electoral matters, what fairer system could there be than the one under which Australians voted on that occasion? [More…]
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On that occasion 49.3 per cent of the votes gave this Government 5 1.2 per cent of the seats. [More…]
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Prior to May 1974 it may have seemed that this was not very important, but since we have witnessed that reckless grab for power last year it has become important that, if the Senate is to reject Supply, at least some of the senators who vote to reject Supply present themselves to the electors as well as forcing the Government and the House of Representatives to face the electors. [More…]
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The people do not really understand what the issues are about, and there is a tendency when in doubt to vote no. [More…]
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It-was defeated by a margin somewhat greater in terms of absolute numbers of votes cast than the margin by which the Opposition was defeated by the Government. [More…]
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Those members of the Opposition who claim to know and represent the permanent will of the people will vote against this Bill and prevent the people from expressing that will. [More…]
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We go to the people to find out what they want in the way of a government according to the more democratic standards that are set for a vote for the House of Representatives. [More…]
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The people give their verdict and a government is established according to the way in which the people have voted for the House of Representatives. [More…]
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-Mr President, the Opposition will vote against the second reading of this Bill. [More…]
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I believe that to vote for this Bill will be to further the divisions which I deplore in the Australian community. [More…]
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I believe that this Opposition is not in a fit state to vote for this legislation and I do not intend to vote for it to further - [More…]
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I am rather tired, as are so many of Senator Baume ‘s supporters in New South Wales at a very high level, of the duplicity of the Opposition in this House, and for a number of reason which are rather mixed, as I have illustrated, I do not intend to vote for this legislation. [More…]
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As a result of that the Commission of 8 people will comprise 3 members representing the local area and local interests and, combined with the vote of an independent chairman, will ensure that the Government will not be in a position to dominate the Commission and to get its own way, as the proposal that was originally contained in the Bill may have resulted. [More…]
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The New York Court of Appeals affirmed the conviction by a vote of 5 to 2. [More…]
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In continuing his appeal, Mr Radich went to the Supreme Court which upheld the Court of Appeals on a vote of 4 to 4, with Associate Justice William O. Douglas not voting. [More…]
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Mr Radich then went to the Circuit Court of Appeals, which reversed this finding, saying a tie vote did not represent an actual adjudication, and allowed the current action to be instituted. [More…]
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If we vote on this matter and we are defeated because honourable senators honestly decide, after looking at the matter, that the problem which the superior court idea was designed to solve has been solved in another way, so be it. [More…]
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As a result, it is the intention of the Opposition once again to oppose and to vote against this Bill and the Minerals (Submerged Lands) (Royalty) Bill which is being debated cognately with it. [More…]
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The vote of this Parliament as expressed in the Senate tonight will be a retrogressive step. [More…]
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I well remember having had a significant casting vote for the passage of that legislation, being berated by the leader of the Senate Opposition because I would not go over and vote with Labor. [More…]
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Despite the fact that I thought in my own proper and individual judgment that the jurisdiction for oil exploration in the off-shore oil territory belonged to the Commonwealth, as a practical man I voted with the majority so that there could be early implementation of the mineral legislation in relation to the off-shore oil. [More…]
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One of the provisions of the existing law is that no ballot for amalgamation, if it takes place in the way I have just outlined, will be an effective ballot unless 50 per cent of the members of the organisation vote. [More…]
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If 50 per cent of the members of the organisation vote, at least 50. [More…]
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1 per cent of the members who have voted must vote in favour. [More…]
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The 50 per cent who did not vote could be regarded as opposed to it and 24.9 per cent of those who actually did vote could be opposed to it and there would therefore be a theoretical 75 per cent opposed to it. [More…]
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Moreover the new provisions provide for an amalgamation to be taken as having been approved if in the ballot or each of the ballots, if there is more than one ballot, more than one half of the members who recorded formal votes are in favour of the amalgamation. [More…]
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There is to be no quorum whatsoever, no basic minimum number of members of the organisation who are required to vote. [More…]
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There is no need for the employer organisations I referred to have a ballot of every one of their shareholders any more than it is a necessity for everyone to vote in a local government election. [More…]
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It is most significant with regard to amalgamation that no longer will it be necessary to have a vote of in excess of 50 per cent of the membership on an issue, but a simple majority of perhaps only 5 per cent or 10 per cent of a union will be regarded as sufficient evidence that an amalgamation should take place. [More…]
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I will vote for the Bill on the basis that, should it proceed past the second reading, I will very avidly present a case for amendment to insert these parliamentary principles. [More…]
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If they are not inserted I will vote against the Bill at the third reading. [More…]
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What I am saying to Senator Wright is that if he votes against the second reading he is precluding the alteration of the Bill in this fashion. [More…]
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I suggest to Senator Wright that if he took a vote of the Australian public he would find that there is overwhelming support, as I have found in the community, for these types of disciplines. [More…]
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The honourable member said that a 30 per cent vote is a good result for a trade union. [More…]
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However, as we know, that is not possible because the Oppositions intends to vote against the Bill. [More…]
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The rights of members are further protected by proposed section 133 which requires that the rules of organisations be such as to ensure that every financial member of an organisation has a right to vote at any ballot taken for the purpose of submitting a matter to a vote of the members. [More…]
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The returns were as follows: For the Amalgamation Engineering Union, the yes vote, expressed as a percentage of votes cast, was 85.7 per cent and the no vote, expressed as a percentage of votes cast, was 12.7 per cent. [More…]
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‘1 he yes vote, as a percentage of total membership, was 8.08 per cent and the no vote, as a percentage of the total membership, was 1.2 per cent. [More…]
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For the Boilermakers’ and Blacksmiths’ Society of Australia, the yes vote, expressed as a percentage of the votes cast, was 73.2 per cent and the no vote, expressed as a percentage of the votes cast, was 25.5 per cent. [More…]
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The yes vote, expressed as a percentage of the ballot papers issued, was 44.4 per cent and the no vote as a percentage of the ballot papers issued, was 15.5 per cent. [More…]
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For the Sheet Metal Workers Union, the yes vote, expressed as a percentage of the votes cast, was 69.9 per cent and the no vote, expressed as a percentage of votes cast, was 29.5 per cent. [More…]
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The yes vote, expressed as a percentage of ballot papers issued was 24.3 per cent and the no vote, expressed as a percentage of ballot papers issued, was 9.2 per cent. [More…]
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The will of the majority of the members of the Senate is expressed by the majority vote which was accorded to senators in the Opposition ranks over the vote accorded to senators in the Government ranks at the election which was held in 1974. [More…]
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If one were able to divide the vote of the electorate at large in May 1974 into an intention it has been expressed fairly clearly that the intention was that in the House of Representatives the Government should be accorded to the Australian Labor Party but that the same Australian Labor Party should not have a majority in the Senate and that the Opposition is expected in those circumstances to exercise its numbers responsibly. [More…]
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I find it quite instructive that the message that was attempted to be hammered home in 1972 and the years preceding it that a vote for Labor meant a vote for an intelligent industrial relations policy because Labor understood the workers has been proved, I think, to be wrong and as incorrect as any aspect of Labor’s whole program. [More…]
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We recognise the impracticabilities of what he is suggesting, just as I am informed the ACTU does, f he Opposition will vote against the second reading of this Bill. [More…]
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I hope that perhaps some Opposition senators will reconsider the position when they vote on this Bill. [More…]
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So although we are dealing with these matters cognately, the Opposition will vote in favour of a second reading of the Australian Industry Development Corporation Bill but against a second reading of the National Investment Fund Bill. [More…]
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Obviously only a needless delay has taken place since the vote was taken here last year. [More…]
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However, I cannot bring myself to vote for the National Investment Fund Bill. [More…]
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That means that if money is required to engage in some work that may lose money, but is in the national interest, both Houses of Parliament must vote the money. [More…]
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Accordingly I indicate that I will follow the course of my colleagues and support the Australian Industry Development Corporation Bill but will vote for rejecting the National Investment Fund Bill. [More…]
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In the event of an equality of voting, the Chairman, or the Deputy-Chairman when acting as Chairman, shall have a casting vote. [More…]
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A Senator, though not a member of the Standing Committee, may participate in its public sessions and question witnesses, unless the Committee orders otherwise, but shall not vote. [More…]
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However, he was one of those who voted against giving that Bill a second reading. [More…]
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That will give the honourable senator the opportunity to express his opinion on that legislation and I hope that he will vote for it. [More…]
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Without those requests I would find myself not prepared to vote for the Bill. [More…]
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But the real difficulty which arises in electing personnel to the boards or the Council itself would be that of defining the electorate, of defining who would vote for representatives on the boards and the Council. [More…]
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I hope that any primary producers who are listening this evening will know that if they are to gain benefits- the Minister for Agriculture might suddenly reverse his Party’s attitude in relation to superphosphate; I hope I am not stealing something out of the Minister’s portfolio- they will be very short lived and will be attempts to encourage primary producers to vote for the Labor Party. [More…]
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They were simply vote catchers brought on by the Country Party for no more than its own selfish political ends. [More…]
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We cannot add something related to security matters in order to argue whether the vote of an amount of money is correct. [More…]
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Does the Minister remember that this censure motion was lost by a tied vote in the chamber because of the fair-minded approach of Senator Steele Hall? [More…]
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Can the Minister say whether those stores are so used and, if so, how they are replenished and whether the cost is met from the defence vote or a special appropriation? [More…]
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His own vote plummeted at the last election. [More…]
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I shall conclude quickly so that we can get a vote before the suspension of the sitting for lunch. [More…]
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He then went on to talk about if supply for Medibank was included in the Supply Bills, that the Senators were more likely to vote against it. [More…]
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He will not say to the Australian community: ‘We are definitely going to vote out the appropriation in this House’. [More…]
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He will not say to the Australian community: ‘We will not vote out the appropriation in this House ‘. [More…]
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Having said that I shall now refer to a vote of the Appropriation Bill under the Department of [More…]
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The Opposition will vote in favour of the National Health Bill (No. [More…]
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The medical members are the only members eligible to vote members on to the Council and in turn the medical members are selected by the Council. [More…]
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Senator Button, Senator Grimes and Senator Melzer dealt with most of the matters raised in the debate and I do not want to detain the Senate in taking a vote, the result of which I think we can all predict. [More…]
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He has said that we should vote for this Bill and correct the position. [More…]
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They had a chance yesterday to vote on this issue and they ran away from it. [More…]
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That, in the event of an equality of voting, the Chairman, or the Deputy-Chairman when acting as Chairman, shall have a casting vote. [More…]
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It is now more than 5 years since this Senate, by its vote, resolved to appoint a select committee to inquire into this matter. [More…]
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Why cannot the Opposition vote against such provisions as it proposes to vote against? [More…]
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My experience has been, and I suppose this would apply to all members of Parliament, that the Government of the day ought to have a majority on a select committee that may have to take a final vote on contentious issues. [More…]
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I would like to see the matter set out clearly in the amendment so that there can be no doubt for those who consider it and vote upon it this evening. [More…]
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The effect of this would be to give a casting vote to the chairman in respect of matters of contention dealt with by a full committee. [More…]
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I moved the amendment in the expectation that the Senate will provide what I think is a proper and normal provision, one for which there is precedent, enabling a normal vote to be taken by a select committee and giving the majority to the Government in respect of contentious matters. [More…]
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In his heart of hearts he would like to vote for the second reading of this Bill, and I am sure that he will absent himself when the division ultimately takes place. [More…]
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In the event of an equality of voting, the Chairman, or the Deputy-Chairman when acting as Chairman, shall have a casting vote. [More…]
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A Senator, though not a member of the Standing Committee, may participate in its public sessions and question witnesses, unless the Committee orders otherwise, but shall not vote. [More…]
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We ought to express unanimously our complete contempt of a government that would not give that complimentary vote for an Anzac representation on the sixtieth anniversary of the successful landing at Gallipoli. [More…]
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One wonders how many people the Minister for Services and Property (Mr Daly) has had working at the taxpayers’ expense to think up ways of disguising this stealthy bid to cheat the voter. [More…]
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The Opposition believes in a fair and equitable electoral system, one in which the party with the most votes wins the most seats. [More…]
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We believe that every voter has a right to have his vote taken into account. [More…]
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But there are clauses in this Bill- clauses which the Government has tried to hide in the fine print of this Bill- that deprive the voter of his rights. [More…]
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Thousands who did vote this way would probably have their vote not counted because it would not reach their Divisional Returning Officer on the night of the election which is the new cut-off time. [More…]
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We believe that if people are to be forced to vote- and we accept compulsory voting- they should be given every possible opportunity to do so. [More…]
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The facts are, however, that with a few rare exceptions most voters are not required to do more than put 4 numbers on their ballot paper. [More…]
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In 1969, almost 85 per cent of voters for the House of Representatives had to place only 4 numbers on their paper. [More…]
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In 1974, more than 90 per cent of voters needed to spend only a few seconds in the polling booth numbering their choices in order from one to four. [More…]
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Furthermore, the informal vote is only around the 2 per cent mark, the same as it was in the days of voluntary voting. [More…]
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A change to optional preferential voting will not in any way diminish the informal vote for the House of Representatives. [More…]
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It is an insult to the intelligence of the Australian voter to claim, as this Government does, that he or she finds it difficult to mark from 1 to 4 on a ballot paper which is all most voters need do. [More…]
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The informal vote in New South Wales at that election in 1 974 was no higher than it was in the Senate election of 196 1 when there were only 2 1 candidates. [More…]
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The informal vote for Senate elections has always been higher than it has been for the House of Representatives. [More…]
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Optional preferential voting was used in Senate elections in the 1 920s, and the informal vote was no lower than it is today with the present full preferential voting system. [More…]
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The Labor Party has tried to disguise the fact that this Bill would effectively deprive many people of a postal vote, without offering them any other way of having their votes counted. [More…]
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The Opposition takes this basic stance: If voting is to be compulsory electors should be given every possible opportunity to have their votes counted. [More…]
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The postal voting system is the only way many ill or travelling people can exercise their vote, but this Bill would take that right away for many people. [More…]
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It will mean, in effect, that anyone who does not cast his vote on the Thursday before an election will be disfranchised. [More…]
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Anyone who becomes a victim of the postal systemwhich has steadily deteriorated under this Government- would have to lodge his postal vote much further in advance. [More…]
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Under the specious excuse of avoiding delays in counting election results, the Government would insist that all postal votes be received by the close of the poll if they are to be counted. [More…]
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Under the present proposal, a person voting by post would have to send his vote direct to his own electorate officer. [More…]
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Impediments are being placed in the voters’ way instead of assistance being given to electors. [More…]
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There are few occasions when counting of postal votes materially delays the outcome of an election; but if it does, surely these votes are vital. [More…]
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It would mean an electorate so finely balanced as to require- in the name of democracy- the determination of the wishes of every voter. [More…]
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Instead of placing impediments in the voters’ way the Government should be helping those who have great difficulties in casting a vote. [More…]
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In Committee we will move an amendment which will seek to make it easier for people who have difficulties in casting a vote under the present postal vote system. [More…]
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We will be proposing that for each election a different coloured postal vote form be used, ensuring no party can store up forms and then solicit votes with these forms. [More…]
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What sort of a Government is it that forces people to the polls under threat of a fine, and then reduces the time it provides for them to vote in? [More…]
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They make provision for people who for a variety of reasons cannot vote before sundown. [More…]
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They make provision for people who find it a gross inconvenience to be forced to vote before 6 p.m. [More…]
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We believe in offering voters every convenience and every facility to determine which government they want. [More…]
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But others will, and if we are unable to have our amendment accepted we will vote against the clause. [More…]
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At times some issue or some personality would flash across the sky, but generally the people turned off the babble of sound and voted because they would be fined if they did not vote. [More…]
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While standing outside a lot of polling booths for a long period of time I have noticed that voters have been asking for this for years. [More…]
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They object to the system that acknowledges outside the polling booth that there are political parties with policies which they, the voters, are in favour of or disapprove of but which provides that once they are inside that sacred booth they are on their own unless there have been sterling souls standing outside the booths handing out how-to-vote cards. [More…]
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It would be different if we did not recognise political parties as a part of the system, but we do and, in my opinion, the more information we can give voters to make sure they record their vote in the way they want to, the more information we can give them so that they make a proper choice in the light of their own personal feelings, the better our system will work. [More…]
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Often in the past the very fact that the names of political parties did not appear opposite candidates’ names had been used to confuse voters and to upset the proper election results. [More…]
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Obviously this was done to confuse the voters, to break down the vote for the genuine candidate and so prevent the voters in the area involved from giving true expression to their feelings. [More…]
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In the past how-to-vote cards have been used deliberately to confuse voters. [More…]
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Certain small groups that appear at election time, and usually only at election time, come forward from time to time with how-to-vote cards that suggest that if you are a Labor voter you should vote for that Party’s candidate first and then follow the Labor Party ticket or if you are a Liberal voter you should vote for that Party’s candidate and then follow the Liberal card. [More…]
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This is unfair to the voter. [More…]
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It is well known that there are in some areas amongst some of the smaller political professionals standing for Parliament, not because they ever expect to get there but because of the name they had or assumed in any election meant that they were placed at the top of the ticket and they picked up the donkey vote. [More…]
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There have been times when that was worth 7 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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It was a matter of gain that donkey vote, and then they would strut around talking about who would be given their second preferences. [More…]
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They want to vote for the necessary number of people to be elected and leave it at that. [More…]
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A great number of people made a mess of the ballot paper in trying to fill in all those squares and their vote was declared informal. [More…]
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This Bill introduces the proposition of optional preferential voting, a system whereby a voter will have his vote counted, so long as he has marked the ballot paper to cover the number of members to be elected. [More…]
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Senate elections are notorious for confusing voters. [More…]
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The hard part is that many of those people who do that are people who, far from being uncaring or uninformed, are taking a very responsible attitude about the way they vote and the stand they are taking in voting that way. [More…]
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One can imagine being a polling clerk at a small booth where one can expect only 40 votes in all. [More…]
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This is to say nothing of the stalwarts outside who have to distribute the how-to-vote cards and are probably there from 8 a.m. to 8 p.m. At least they have an inner conviction which keeps them going. [More…]
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We all know that if we opened polling booths from 5 a.m. to 10 p.m. there would still be people who would leave it to the last minute to vote. [More…]
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I think we must have the courage to say that when a person can no longer live in his own home and he has to live in an institution he is not entitled to vote, or we should treat those people as human beings who warrant all the dignity of every other human being. [More…]
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For so long, unless those people could procure a postal vote, could get themselves driven to the polling booth or took themselves off the roll, they really were not catered for very well. [More…]
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They would follow keenly the political party which said that it would have a car waiting at the door on polling day to take them to vote. [More…]
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For those who could not go in a car to vote, sometimes a barrage of people would arrive. [More…]
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The only visitor they may have in a year would arrive to help them with their vote. [More…]
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On the surface, it sounds quite good to take old ladies and gentlemen for a ride once a year or to visit them once a year, but the problem is that so many of the people who assist them with their vote are not there because they care about the people exercising their right to vote but because by being there they put pressure on them to vote one way or the other. [More…]
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I believe, as does Senator Melzer, that we should have an electoral system which promotes democracy in our country and which elects the people which the majority of voters wants to see in government. [More…]
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At the last Federal election less than one year ago, 5 1 per cent of the seats in the House of Representatives were gained by the Australian Labor Party with 49 per cent of the votes. [More…]
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At the Senate election on that same occasion 47 per cent of the vote gained for the Australian Labor Party 29 of the 60 seats in the Senate. [More…]
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Postal voting, it is suggested in this Bill, should be such that no votes will be counted that are not received by the closing of the polls on the Saturday, if that be the day of the election. [More…]
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This means that the period of 10 days which has been the normal time outside which it is not allowable for such votes to be received is to be changed. [More…]
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I can see, especially in the circumstances of the postal and communications systems of our time, that the extension of 10 days is most desirable and necessary if we are really concerned that all Australians, wherever they may be, who are entitled to vote do vote. [More…]
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I do not want to labour this particular point, but I do want to suggest that hundreds of thousands of Australians are not in the spectator group of the community and do in fact enjoy playing bowls, cricket, football, golf or whatever, and to these people, I say quite seriously, this is an option that is being taken away from them- the option of coming back after 6 p.m. and having until 8 p.m. to register their votes. [More…]
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There are literally thousands of Australians who very much need the addition of those extra 2 hours at night in order to vote with the least possible inconvenience to their way of life and indeed to the productive capacity which they contribute to this country. [More…]
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Of course, the polling hours are also relevant to religious groups in the community whose beliefs are such that they are required not to vote until after sundown, and from this point of view also there is a strong reason, I believe, why the 8 p.m. provision should be retained. [More…]
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I repeat that after an election when one goes into hotels, clubs, golf courses or on to the beach, people chiack one and say: ‘Fancy having to vote for 74 bloody candidates’. [More…]
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If we were to apply to a postal ballot for a trade union election the safeguards that exist for postal votes in our electoral system of the moment, there could be resorts to all kinds of rorts. [More…]
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I do not say that postal votes are the be all and end all ingredients of victory in an election where the results are very close. [More…]
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There were some misgivings on the part of the Labor Party at the number of postal votes which seemed to indicate a manifestation of Party loyalty out of all proportion to the trend of voting in metropolitan Sydney. [More…]
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If in an election I had an idea that somebody who sought a postal vote was a phoney and I asked for access to his electoral card in the office of the divisional returning officer, I would not be granted that access. [More…]
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I say again that it is remarkable that the Division of Griffith in Queensland attracts such a very high number of postal voters. [More…]
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His could have been a vote for our Party on this occasion, but he did not get a vote. [More…]
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On the morning of the election in Australia Mr Clanfield drove to Australia House at about 2 o’clock in the afternoon to record a vote. [More…]
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If we want a reasonable vote to be recorded, Peter Clanfield and all the other Australians in Britain should have had the opportunity to vote. [More…]
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I know there were some fears as to whether anybody in any pan of Australia could record an absentee vote in a national election. [More…]
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I know the argument can be advanced that if I was driving from Brisbane to Sydney and I did not go to the divisional headquarters in the electorate of, say, Richmond, Cowper or New England, I could not vote anywhere. [More…]
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Suppose the Opposition was to say to us: We do not like your idea of having a cut-off time for postal votes’. [More…]
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I would say to the Opposition: Put up a suggestion that we provide voting facilities for absentee voters in every polling booth throughout the country rather than give the responsibility to the divisional returning officer’. [More…]
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It is Tor those reasons, among others, that we must regrettably vote to reject the whole of the Bill. [More…]
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It will be possible for those people to vote in a comfortable situation, not under the stress of discomfort. [More…]
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However, as has been pointed out, there are in this Bill a number of provisions which are party political in the real sense of the term, and nothing epitomises this more than some of the provisions in regard to postal ballots which are quite unashamedly designed, in my opinion, to determine that certain peoplepredominantly voters for the Opposition- will have less opportunity of voting and of using the postal ballot system. [More…]
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Unquestionably, the facts have shown that there is a preponderance of postal votes which go to the Opposition and which during the later counting, in some cases, tend to swing seats towards the Opposition. [More…]
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It is all right for honourable senators opposite to say that they want an immediate result, but an immediate result should not be achieved at the expense of people who want to exercise the right to vote in an election. [More…]
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This is to cover electors who live in large electorates and have difficulty in casting a vote at an individual booth. [More…]
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There ought to be a general right in these circumstances to obtain a postal vote. [More…]
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If a new system is introduced for one House of one Parliament and it is not used in the State parliaments there is room for confusion when people vote in a State election. [More…]
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Senator Melzer spoke on this subject and referred to the donkey vote that is available to someone on the top of the poll. [More…]
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At least there is one thing about the donkey vote and that is that it generally goes straight down or straight across the card. [More…]
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There is one thing about an individual who stands and gets that donkey vote and that is that he gets perhaps 1 per cent or 2 per cent. [More…]
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But at least we know that the vote goes down the card and there is very little that that person can do to direct his or her preferences. [More…]
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When I was elected last year I think it was about 1 per cent of the vote for the top group in the Senate. [More…]
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Eighty per cent of that vote went straight down the card, although the preferences were supposed to come to my Party. [More…]
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So one can gain some idea from that sort of example of how important that donkey vote can be. [More…]
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Perhaps the honourable senator has a different view from mine of the importance of that particular vote but to me it looked strangely like a donkey vote from the way I was looking at it. [More…]
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We must make our judgments, in default of that non-political atmosphere, within our parties, and I am prepared to vote as the party, to which I belong, in its judgment, has decided upon these matters. [More…]
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I think one can refer to the State of Tasmania where it is not now necessary- and the amendment to the electoral laws was made in comparatively recent years- to vote the whole card, although once upon a time it was. [More…]
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If it has facilitated the casting of a vote, and if it has helped people by reducing the amount of complexity in the voting procedure and obtained a result that would have been obtained anyway by the voting of the full card, I suggest that this change has been a beneficial one. [More…]
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So, in the State of Tasmania people accept now that one must vote for a certain number of candidates. [More…]
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If we can reduce the number of candidates for whom a vote must be cast- in the case of the Senate election in New South Wales on the last occasion there were 73 candidates- to some reasonable number, and, working on the basis of the example I have just given about Tasmania, achieve a result that reflects the will of the people, surely that is what we ought to be doing. [More…]
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If we perpetuate and persist with a system that gives us an ultimate result of a 10 per cent informal vote through requiring that people cast a vote for every person on the card, as against the loss of, say, 1 per cent in the event of the sort of circumstances about which Senator Withers is speaking, surely sheer, plain ordinary commonsense logic would demand that we reduce that 10 per cent and if, in the course of doing so, there is a disfranchisement of, say, one per cent, mathematically and in every other sense we have achieved something worth while. [More…]
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People want to know which party they vote for at an election. [More…]
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Many people cast a vote based upon a political outlook, a political philosophy or whatever. [More…]
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They wish to vote for a particular political party. [More…]
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I think this a proper suggestion and may cut down the donkey vote which Senator Missen mentioned a while ago and about which we all hear so much. [More…]
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If people can see an identification of the political party for which they want to vote are we not helping the electorate? [More…]
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Should we not assist people to cast a valid vote and not put people, who lack the necessary information and interest to find out beforehand the names of candidates of particular parties but who have a particular party in mind, in a situation of not knowing the party for which they are voting? [More…]
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It ought to be our purpose that when these people cast a vote they cast a valid vote. [More…]
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An opportunity to vote is presented to the infirm, people who are temporarily incapacitated or for some other reason need the services of a mobile polling booth. [More…]
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I notice also as part of the proposals in this Bill one which is designed for the protection of candidates against the issue of misleading how-to- vote cards. [More…]
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In my home State of Tasmania the use of how to vote cards on election day is prohibited. [More…]
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I do not think the absence of how-to-vote cards on the day of an election has made any difference to the outcome of an election in that State. [More…]
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Some curious things happen in relation to how-to-vote cards. [More…]
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Somebody told me that a very ardent supporter of my party was handing out how-to-vote cards for the Opposition. [More…]
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Misrepresentations can be made on how-to-vote cards. [More…]
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We should examine the best way in which an elector may record his vote. [More…]
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By doing this the ultimate wishes of the voters can be achieved by the election of a Parliament which the people desire. [More…]
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For this reason every opportunity should be given to the electors to express their views by their vote. [More…]
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I do not think it should be our desire to bring about changes which in any way restrict the voter in expressing his view. [More…]
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Surely to goodness with all the processes available to us there should be ample opportunity for people to be able to sift out which candidates they want to vote for. [More…]
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I have worked at polling booths for many years and probably for a longer period than most honourable senators, having started pretty well before I had the right to vote. [More…]
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There are people in certain types of business such as dairy farmers who come in to vote later in the day. [More…]
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I know it is very easy to say: Let them have a postal vote’. [More…]
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But we are a democracy catering for everybody and everybody should have an equal opportunity of recording their vote as do the great bulk of the people- by going along to a polling booth and recording their votes. [More…]
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Why should they have to go through the process and to the trouble of making a postal vote because sunset interferes with their coming out say before 6 o’clock in the evening? [More…]
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I think we should cater for everybody possible and get them to vote on polling day if they are available without putting them to extra trouble. [More…]
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We, as a democracy, should have our polling booths open for a sufficient time to give everybody a chance to vote on that day as the great majority of the people in Australia are able so to do. [More…]
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I know it is quite easy to say we should cut down the hours for voting but, when all is said and done, as a democracy our aims should be to get every vote possible and therefore whilst it might take a couple of hours longer than some people want I think that in the main the extra votes that come in really suit the true democratic purpose of this country. [More…]
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As to preferential voting, here again I know that it is very easy to say: ‘Why force people to give preference votes?’ [More…]
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The people vote. [More…]
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I know that the last double dissolution Senate election vote in New South Wales is being used to frighten and to suggest to the people that there should be a change. [More…]
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Informal votes will occur at any time. [More…]
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Even with the simplest of voting there will be people who will vote informally. [More…]
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Unfortunately there are some people who vote informally purposely. [More…]
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In a democracy a very precious privilege is for the people to vote and to elect the Party they want as the government. [More…]
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Whether the system is a straight-out first past the post system, whether it is an optional preference system or whether it is a compulsory preference system, informal votes will still be cast. [More…]
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At present postal votes must be received within 10 days after the close of the poll. [More…]
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In Parliament it is all very well to speak of people as if they were perfect, as if they knew the laws of the country and all the requirements of voters and so on. [More…]
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Those who have worked at a polling booth on election day have probably found people, both from interstate and from their home State, who arrive and want to vote. [More…]
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If they are in their home State they can get an absentee vote. [More…]
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If they are from interstate they must get a postal vote. [More…]
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One goes to great trouble to get these people a vote. [More…]
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The only thing that some of these people can do is get a postal vote. [More…]
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On a Saturday they cannot get a postal vote. [More…]
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Lots of other people who are probably not as well versed in voting procedures as we might be cannot get a vote on election day. [More…]
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The Government is depriving these people of a postal vote because it seeks to alter the law so that applications for a postal vote must be received by a certain time. [More…]
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Therefore we should cast the net widely and make the voting system elastic so that notwithstanding the faults of the voters we get as many votes as possible, and that when the election result is announced it is what the people of the country really intend- a government of their choice elected to govern this country for the following 3 years. [More…]
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In those circumstances I think we should stretch the law in every way possible to get the greatest possible number of voters. [More…]
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Sometimes we should perhaps express with pride and satisfaction that we are the only democratic country which gives its people the truly democratic right, privilege and opportunity to express themselves by vote. [More…]
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The fact that other countries are not so free and are not so helpful in getting the ultimate in voting is no reason we should be more exclusive so far as the number of voters is concerned. [More…]
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People will turn up on voting day and want to vote. [More…]
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If they cannot get an absentee vote, their votes are lost. [More…]
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Therefore we are restricting the vote of the people. [More…]
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We must get the most votes possible. [More…]
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To get the correct decision for the government of the country for the ensuing term we should make the recording of votes as easy as possible. [More…]
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Those of us who have been engaged in political campaigning will be well aware that party organisers go to hospitals, prop up ill people in beds- some of them are at death ‘s door- and try to get them to apply for a postal vote. [More…]
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When the postal ballot paper is returned to the hospital these organisers endeavour to get the people to vote for members of their parties. [More…]
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I think this system has lent itself to the manipulation of votes. [More…]
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1 am very pleased to see that it will be changed and that there will be mobile polling booths at hospitals and other institutions at which properly authorised electoral officers can see that these people can cast a vote if they wish. [More…]
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Therefore it will be a genuine vote. [More…]
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There will be no manipulation of those people to persuade them to vote for members of a particular party. [More…]
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Other reforms include the prevention of persons enrolling or nominating for election under changed names in certain circumstances and restricting postal vote application forms to be used at an election or referendum to those specified by notice in the ‘Gazette’. [More…]
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We are well aware of the actions of one gentleman who immediately after an election is held begins compiling applications for postal votes for the next election. [More…]
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He was first off the mark and had an advantage over others from his activities in helping people to apply for postal votes. [More…]
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Another reform is the prohibiting of the listing of names of persons who apply for postal votes, except in certain specified circumstances. [More…]
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Another matter covered by the legislation is the protection of candidates against the issue of misleading how to vote cards. [More…]
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How many of us have seen the abuse of the how to vote card system in many elections? [More…]
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It is no different because the argument used is that if we close the polls at 6 o’clock the farmers and a lot of other people, such as people of different religious orders, cannot get in to vote. [More…]
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Those who are interested enough to want to vote will get there. [More…]
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The article is headed ‘A Vote that puts the People First’. [More…]
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Because of the distribution of electoral boundaries and the concentration of Labor voters the A.L.P. [More…]
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has usually required at least 52 per cent of the total vote (including preferences) to win a federal election. [More…]
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Of course, there were also those with a more practical interest, like the Victorian Farmers’ Union, who wanted to run candidates themselves, but refrained from doing so because they would thereby split the non-Labor vote and let the Labor man in. [More…]
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The poll shall open at 8 o’clock in the morning and shall not close until all electors present in the polling booth at 6 o’clock in the evening, and desiring to vote, have voted;’ . [More…]
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There are sizable communities of people who adhere to these religions and who find in the present proposals restrictions upon their right to vote which to them are abhorrent and totally unnecessary. [More…]
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These people are not impressed by any argument that counting of votes can commence 2 hours earlier. [More…]
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I also remind honourable senators that if sunset occurs after the polls have closed the adherents to the Seventh Day Adventist or Jewish faiths are unable to attend a polling place and cast a personal vote. [More…]
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But if the polls close at 6 p.m., I have been informed by the Bureau of Meteorology that for some 27 weeks of the year -more than 6 months of the year- 6 p.m. will be before sunset and people of these 2 religious faiths will be prevented from personally attending the polling places and casting their own votes. [More…]
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They would be able to seek a postal vote. [More…]
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The alternative open to these people is to seek a postal vote, and many of them will do this. [More…]
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If there is any delay in processing the application for the votes or in returning the votes then electoral justice is lessened. [More…]
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Postal voting is a very important matter but does this Bill extend or reduce the rights of people to cast a postal vote? [More…]
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Well, under this Bill the Government has decided that it is going to set an earlier deadline for the return of postal votes and it will insist upon their being returned direct to the respective returning officer. [More…]
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These measures are designed to limit, even if they limit ever so slightly, the opportunities to cast a postal vote, to use the postal voting system. [More…]
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An earlier deadline for the return of postal votes has no justification except that it will lead to this more rapid result which is seen by the Labor Party as such a valuable aim in itself. [More…]
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Any kind of postal delay, any kind of bureaucratic failure, any delay in delivering postal vote application forms, any overloading of a divisional returning office with work could result in the disfranchisement of those seeking postal votes. [More…]
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Nor is it intended to vary the requirement that voters must indicate the order of their preference for all the candidates. [More…]
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Whilst this latter requirement may have the effect of continuing to produce a fairly high informal vote it definitely precludes the possibly greater evil of exhausted votes, that is, votes which become exhausted in the process of transfer. [More…]
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In this connection it is pointed out that at the 1922 and 1925 parliamentary elections in New South Wales the exhausted votes, which in number exceeded the informal votes, were the cause of much dissatisfaction and disputation. [More…]
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Under proportional representation a very low preference may become either an effective vote when candidates are excluded from the bottom of the ballot paper, or a fraction of an effective vote when candidates are excluded from the top of the paper. [More…]
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I intend, with my colleagues, to vote for the second reading of this Bill but then to consider very carefully in Committee the clauses and possible amendments. [More…]
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Nothing in the search for speedier results justifies taking away the rights of citizens to vote and to have their votes counted. [More…]
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What I was saying to the Senate was that, on the one hand, the Opposition was claiming that it was incorrect that about one per cent, or in any event, a proportion of the people would be disfranchised whereas, with the level of the informal vote, in fact 10 per cent of the people were currently being disfranchised. [More…]
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The Opposition apparently believes that the present system, which particularly in Senate elections gives rise to an average of about 10 per cent informal votes, should be retained. [More…]
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It is interesting to note that the informal vote in Senate elections, when there is so often a much larger number of candidates, is between 4 and 5 times as great as the informal vote in the House of Representatives elections. [More…]
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There is no question but that, the more squares there are on a ballot paper to be filled in, the greater is the chance of an informal vote through oversight or inadvertence. [More…]
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When you have a situation, which we have in elections today, where you must vote in some cases for 74 people, but in any case for even 5 or 6 people in a House of Representatives election, you have to say: ‘I prefer No. [More…]
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The Opposition would preserve this high rate of informal vote while the Government ‘s aim is to ensure that the percentage of informal votes is reduced and that people whose intentions are clear are afforded the maximum opportunity to have those intentions translated into a valid vote. [More…]
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People are going along to vote not for a particular name but for a political party, and this legislation is giving them the option of being able to do that by knowing for which candidates they must vote if they are going to vote for their particular party. [More…]
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The Opposition will vote against sub-clause (a) of clause 6. [More…]
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It is a matter of some great principle that the government should not institute a right for those who work for the Government and preclude those who do not work for the Government to vote while overseas. [More…]
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That aspect has been dealt with, and the Committee has voted on it and accepted the Opposition’s amendments, but I want it clearly understood that we oppose these amendments. [More…]
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We will vote against them on the voices. [More…]
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Committee that the Opposition will vote against clause 1 7. [More…]
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Senator McLaren demonstrates his partisan attitude to this Bill by immediately dividing those who may protest about voters who should not be able to vote in a certain election on the basis of whether they may vote Labor or Liberal. [More…]
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By making it harder to object the Government is likely to have a roll which includes people who ought not to be allowed to vote. [More…]
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I indicate that the Opposition will vote against clause 21. [More…]
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I doubt whether people who intend to vote for the Liberal Movement inadvertently vote for the Liberal Party or vice versa. [More…]
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I believe every political party these days advertises its how to vote card in the newspapers, there are pamphlets put into letter boxes and how to vote cards are handed out at polling booths. [More…]
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Is it said that as a result of all that the average elector is too stupid to know the candidate of the party for which he desires to vote? [More…]
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It is for those reasons, and I think the views of the Opposition are well known, that we will vote against clause 2 1 of the Bill. [More…]
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I believe the voter is intelligent. [More…]
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In South Australia the voters are so intelligent that they are shifting in droves from the Liberal Party to the Liberal Movement. [More…]
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We will see whether their vote on this occasion corresponds to their declared opinion last year. [More…]
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I would say that the vast majority of normal voters in Australia would welcome the printing of political affiliations on ballot papers. [More…]
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It is an accepted fact that most people vote solely on party lines. [More…]
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Senator Withers talks about the way we go on now, with how-to-vote cards and all the rest ot it. [More…]
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Do we not insult the inteligence of electors when people put cards into their hands when they are going in to vote? [More…]
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Parties do this for the purpose of advertising themselves and, if the people are Labor voters, they get the Labor cards or, if they are Liberal voters, they are given the Liberal cards. [More…]
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The small party could know full well that every elector had picked up a ballot paper in that electorate, or, if it was a Senate election, throughout the whole State, and every elector would know that Joe Blow belonged to the ABC party, or whatever, and not one how-to-vote card would have to be put out by Joe Blow. [More…]
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I am surprised about this, because ever since I have been handing out how-to-vote cards- and I was a small boy when I started- I have heard this raised time and time again. [More…]
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We have people becoming irate at the number of how-to-vote cards put in their hands and saying: Why have you not got some sense? [More…]
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I want to vote for this or that party, and that is all I am concerned about.’ [More…]
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If he has a tag around his neck bearing the name of a party he is the candidate for whom the people will vote. [More…]
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Indeed, with Press coverage and the literature available at polling booth areas it is made constantly evident to the people who vote to just what political party any particular individual or team of individuals may belong. [More…]
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If it is not passed I will vote against the clause in the Bill. [More…]
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Originally we intended neither to support Senator Hall’s amendment nor to vote against the clause. [More…]
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We would be prepared, merely as a catalyst in this situation, to vote against clause 23. [More…]
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We will vote against the clause on that basis and that basis only. [More…]
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Perhaps I could be wrong; occasionally I am wrong in my Party and I lose the vote. [More…]
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If Senator Wood would agree to transfer to Senator Withers’ proposition the support that I believe he so nobly indicated he would give to my amendment, we should simply vote against the clause and that would save the time of the Committee. [More…]
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I U- TEMPORARY CHAIRMAN- We shall debate them concurrently and vote on them separately. [More…]
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The Opposition will vote against sub-clauses (b) and (c). [More…]
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Now Senator Withers, on behalf of his Party at least in the Senate, has said that the Opposition will vote against these 2 subclauses so that there will be no increase in the deposits. [More…]
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If Senator Webster’s request for leave were not granted or if he were not paired, Victoria would be deprived of a voice and a vote in the Senate and thus disadvantaged. [More…]
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This is one of the necessary provisions for the Government if it is to limit the capacity of people to lodge postal votes. [More…]
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The Opposition holds the view that the capacity of the electorate to vote is more important than the capacity of the Government or the Opposition to know the result of an election by midnight on polling day. [More…]
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It is only now and again that a doubt arises, and I do not see that this is sufficient reason why people should be deprived of the capacity to cast a postal vote. [More…]
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Right at the last moment numbers of people cast a postal vote, as the present Act allows them to do. [More…]
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They may have been prevented from voting in the ordinary way through sickness or another intervening cause, and they should still retain the capacity to lodge a postal vote. [More…]
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The other aspect of the Government’s intentions that is wrong is that the Government imagines that the postal service works in such a way that a postal vote can be received in time, in any event. [More…]
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If that is the best one can get from priority paid certified air mail, what hope has the average elector got of getting in his vote in reasonable time? [More…]
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For the reasons I have just given and for the reasons advanced in the second reading debate, the Opposition will vote against clause 27 (d). [More…]
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Where a person is enrolled as an elector for a Division referred to in sub-section ( 1 ), otherwise than by virtue of section 39a or 4 1 a, and it is normally difficult for him to vote at a polling booth open in the State for which he is enrolled by reason of- [More…]
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An elector who is registered under this section is, by force of this section, but subject to Part VI and to the regulations, entitled to vote at an election in accordance with this Part. [More…]
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As soon as practicable after the hour of nomination for an election the Divisional Returning Officer shall send a postal vote certificate and a postal ballot-paper or postal ballot-papers, as the case requires, to each elector who is registered on the register for the Division, other than an elector who has made an application under section 85. [More…]
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Where a person is enrolled as an elector for a Division referred to in sub-section ( 1 ), otherwise than by virtue of section 39a or 41 a, and it is normally difficult for him to vote at a polling booth open in the State for which he is enrolled by reason of- [More…]
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As soon as practicable after the hour of nomination for an election the Divisional Returning Officer shall send a postal vote certificate and a postal ballot-paper or postal ballotpapers, as the case requires, to each elector who is registered on the register for the Division, other than an elector who has made an application under section 85. [More…]
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At the last federal election a large number of people in the Kalgoorlie Division in Western Australia, who had written in requesting a postal vote and who had received a ballot paper back, found they had no capacity to get their vote in because the ballot paper arrived too late to allow them to vote. [More…]
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Because of the shorter period allowed between the close of nominations and the poll, it is estimated that some 300 people in remote areas in the Division of Kalgoorlie never got a vote at the last federal election. [More…]
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I put it to the Mr Daly in another place, who comes from an electorate of only comparatively few square miles, unlike Mr Daly, who lives in an electorate of over 940,000 square miles, that what the Opposition is putting forward is a reasonable and sensible method of giving people in remote areas an opportunity to vote at elections. [More…]
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No doubt the departmental officers will be able to raise all sorts of interesting reasons why it should not be introduced; but, if we are talking about giving electoral justice, people in remote areas ought to be able to have a postal vote. [More…]
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I suggest that the amendment is a fair, reasonable and equitable means of giving persons in remote areas the opportunity to vote at Federal elections. [More…]
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The Opposition’s proposed new clause 28a provides for a system of registered general postal voters. [More…]
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The proposed system appears to be similar in principle to the system applying in Western Australia in that it provides for electors in outlying areas to be registered as general postal voters and, while registered, to be issued with postal voting material at elections without having to submit an application for a postal vote on each occasion. [More…]
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Be that as it may, the circumstances in which an elector of the division concerned may apply for registration are that normally it is difficult for him to vote at a polling booth in the State by reason of the distance between his enrolled address and the nearest normally appointed polling place in the division, or the lack of adequate means of transport from his address to the polling place. [More…]
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Thus it appears that the Opposition proposes to add a system of automatic issuing of postal votes to persons in the larger country divisions who register as general postal voters. [More…]
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Under the existing postal voting arrangements, applications for postal votes may be made after the tenth day prior to the issue of the writ, thus allowing generally about 6 weeks before polling day. [More…]
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the making of a normal postal vote application by persons recorded as general postal voters and unnecessarily into the Act introduces a new concept of postal voting that could widen the possibility of abuses of the postal voting facilities. [More…]
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There, as I understand it, provision is made for a postal vote to be issued to a person whose place of living is more than 5 miles from a registered polling place. [More…]
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Under the Northern Territory electoral arrangements, such a person is automatically issued with a postal vote. [More…]
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It seems to me the test of the argument contained in the proposed amendment is the time lag from when the postal vote can be produced to when it can be posted. [More…]
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So far as Senator Sir Kenneth Anderson’s argument is concerned, true it is I said that under the existing postal voting arrangements applications for postal votes may be made after the tenth day prior to the issue of the writ, thus allowing, generally speaking, a period of about 6 weeks before the actual polling date. [More…]
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Senator Sir Kenneth Anderson, as I understood him, said that it is not so much a question of getting in the application for the postal vote but after the application has been processed and the ballot paper has been sent back to the voter, of getting the voter to fill in the ballot paper and then return it. [More…]
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The Government has attempted to meet half of the problem by providing that there should be quite a significant period in which voters may make applications for a postal vote, but in these vast scattered areas there is a tremendous lag period after nomination in getting the ballot paper back to the voter and then in due course having the completed paper returned. [More…]
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But I shall tell honourable senators where the system can be manipulated, if I may use that word; that is, where there is a roll of people who claim to want a postal vote, as Senator Withers has indicated. [More…]
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Suppose some of those people who have claimed that they want a postal vote because they are on a postal vote roll are itinerant workers, timber cutters or shearers. [More…]
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They may apply for a postal vote and in the meantime move on. [More…]
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People in these very remote situations who want to vote have the difficulty of getting somebody, an authorised witness, to witness their signature on the application form. [More…]
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I think they have enough problems already without knowing that because of the poor mail service in these areas they may well miss out on their opportunity to vote. [More…]
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What it is aimed at is giving people in the very remote areas the capacity to get a postal vote quickly. [More…]
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Why should they have a vote?’ [More…]
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These are the people who ought to be given an opportunity to have a vote. [More…]
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This clause is intended to prevent persons from inspecting lists of those people who apply for postal votes. [More…]
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We did not press our amendment to the proposal to alter the postal vote form so that there will be different forms for each election. [More…]
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These applications ought to be open for inspection and persons who are interested ought to abe able to go along and see who voted at the previous election. [More…]
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The Opposition is opposing clause 29 which deals with inspecting applications for postal votes at divisional offices. [More…]
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At the present time section 89 (3) of the Act provides that all applications for postal votes shall be open for public inspection at all convenient times during office hours from and including the third day after polling day until the election can be no longer questioned. [More…]
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It has been found that this entitlement has been misused by certain persons who list the names of electors who recorded postal votes and retain such a list until just prior to the next election, when postal vote applications are forwarded to those electors without really knowing whether they are still entitled or desire to vote by post. [More…]
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For example, section 87a of the Act provides that a person shall not persuade or induce or associate himself with a person in persuading or inducing an elector to make application for a postal vote certificate and postal ballot paper. [More…]
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If this clause were left out of the Bill the effect would be that the present situation would continue to obtain and persons could continue to list the names of electors who voted by post, for misuse in the manner I have already mentioned. [More…]
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The Opposition will vote against clause 30 of this Bill. [More…]
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The effect of this clause, if inserted, would be that postal votes would have to be delivered or posted direct to the relevant divisional returning officer. [More…]
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At present a postal vote can be delivered or posted to a divisional returning officer at other than the division for which the elector is enrolled. [More…]
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I know that the Government’s aim is to speed up the result on polling night, but we have consistently said throughout this debate that it is more important that an elector should vote than that the result be known one or two days earlier than might otherwise be the case. [More…]
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Clause 30 and I think clauses 31 and 32, relate to postal votes. [More…]
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As long as it is compulsory for electors to vote, the electors ought to be given the widest capacity to be able to vote. [More…]
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The subsection makes provision, in effect, that where a postal vote, if posted prior to the close of the poll, would not reach the divisional returning officer for the division concerned before the end of a period of 10 days after the close of the poll or, if delivered, would not reach that divisional returning officer before the close of the poll, it may be posted or delivered to any other divisional returning officer, to an assistant divisional returning officer or may be delivered on polling day to any presiding officer in charge of a polling booth. [More…]
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A 10-day period for the return of postal votes to the divisional returning officer for the division concerned would be retained and electors would continue to be able to transmit their postal votes to another divisional returning officer, to an assistant returning officer or to a presiding officer, and provided one of those officers receives the envelope containing the vote before the close of the poll, the divisional returning officer for the division concerned must await its receipt for inclusion in the scrutiny. [More…]
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A significant change will be that henceforth an overseas postal voter will not be able to hand his postal vote to the Assistant Returning Officer for dispatch to Australia. [More…]
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Nevertheless, there will be no prohibition against an Embassy, High Commission, etc., as distinct from the Assistant Returning Officer, acting as an agent for a voter and accepting his postal vote for transmission to Australia. [More…]
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Previously one could hand a vote to an embassy official who was an assistant returning officer. [More…]
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Immediately one handed a vote to him, it became a valid vote to be counted. [More…]
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If, through inadvertence, he does not post it in time, if there is a mail delay, a strike or if somebody beyond the control of the elector or of the embassy official intervenes, that vote will not be counted. [More…]
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The fact that Senator Douglas McClelland said that the fate of a government may depend on these votes is all the more reason that they ought to be counted. [More…]
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An inference to be drawn from his remarks- I hope I am not doing him an injustice because I admire him too much as a person- is that it is far better to determine the fate of a government by not counting all the votes than determining it by counting all the votes. [More…]
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Surely in the democratic process every vote which can possibly be wrung out of the electorate ought to be wrung out of it and counted. [More…]
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There cannot be compulsory voting without giving everybody the most generous terms on which to exercise a vote. [More…]
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If anybody is looking for a simplified, quick system, why not have a voluntary enrolment, a voluntary vote and a cross against somebody’s name? [More…]
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I do not think the Government would propose a voluntary enrolment, nor do I think it would propose a voluntary vote. [More…]
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As long as the Government quite rightly compels people to enrol or suffer a penalty and as long as the Parliament compels the people to vote or suffer a penalty- I think that is the proper course of action accepted by all Parties- we should in no circumstances limit the capacity of electors to exercise a vote. [More…]
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The first group constitutes those postal voters in Australia, and they are people who, under the existing provision in the Act, have posted their vote prior to the close of the poll. [More…]
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We should continue to accept their votes. [More…]
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The second group covers those postal voters who are overseas. [More…]
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It is thought, no doubt- it is probably right- that the majority of people who vote overseas and who want to use these facilities are Liberal voters rather than Labor voters. [More…]
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I think this clause is a most blatant one in the sense that the Government desires, for speed, to deny people abroad who want to exercise their vote the right to have it considered. [More…]
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The Government is saying that it is the voter’s responsibility to get his vote back to the divisional returning officer. [More…]
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If he uses someone else as an agent to post it for him, namely an assistant returning officer, the vote must get to the divisional returning officer for the division for which the person is enrolled. [More…]
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If a person overseas hands a vote to an ARO it is up to the ARO to get the vote to the divisional returning officer. [More…]
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If the vote is handed to the assistant returning officer before the poll is recorded the divisional returning officer must await that vote. [More…]
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Then they must or can get it back to the divisional returning officer within 10 days after the actual day of the poll, provided they record their vote before the close of the poll. [More…]
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When a vote is given to an assistant returning officer overseas, if he receives it before the close of the poll it must be put into the count and it must get to the divisional returning officer. [More…]
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Originally it was the intention of the Opposition to vote against clause 32 simpliciter. [More…]
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Clause 32 deals with postal votes and seeks to amend section 96 of the Act. [More…]
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It provides that the divisional returning officer shall admit to the scrutiny only those envelopes containing postal votes received by him up to the close of the poll. [More…]
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We can vote against the Government’s proposed clause and then move to insert another clause. [More…]
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This again is related to the Government’s proposal that postal votes should be returned direct to the divisional returning officer for the division concerned and be received by him by the close of the poll. [More…]
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This clause of the Bill also proposes to delete the words ‘and that the vote contained in the envelope was recorded prior to the close of the poll ‘ from section 96 of the Act because these words would no longer be necessary in a situation where the vote had to be in the hands of the divisional returning officer by the close of the poll. [More…]
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My original intention was just to vote against clause 38, but parliamentary counsel advises that that would somewhat wreck the intention of the Bill. [More…]
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There is much talk about the donkey vote. [More…]
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I do not know whether there is a donkey vote. [More…]
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I do not think there is any real evidence of such a vote. [More…]
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Merely because, say, 1 per cent or 2 per cent of ballot papers are marked from the top to the bottom in a certain order, I do not know what right we have to say that this is a donkey vote. [More…]
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Some people might have voted that way deliberately and, if people deliberately vote from the top to the bottom of the ballot paper, I think it is a bit of ruddy cheek for members of political parties to say that they are donkeys or that they have cast donkey votes and that they do not know what they are doing. [More…]
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They know what they are doing; they vote that way quite deliberately. [More…]
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For all those who vote 1 to 5 down the ballot paper, I imagine that at least half that number vote from the bottom to the top. [More…]
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If he wishes to write some biblical quotation across it, if he wishes to pass comments on the candidates whose names appear on it- many informal votes result from that practice- or if he wishes to do nothing with the ballot paper, that is his business. [More…]
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Why politicians should want to interfere with the way a person casts his vote, I do not know. [More…]
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He has not revealed to the Committee why his Party proposes to vote against this clause. [More…]
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He knows very well that the overwhelming number of people will vote for the party they want. [More…]
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Admittedly, under the Government’s proposal, whoever is fortunate enough to draw first position will gain the advantage of what is commonly referred to as the donkey vote; but this is considered to be afairer system than one based on the standard alphabetical system, under which a candidate whose surname happens to commence with the letter ‘A’, or perhaps the letter ‘B will always gain an advantage over a candidate whose surname commences with a letter lower down the alphabet. [More…]
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It was always interesting to observe that in comparable electorates like Barton and St George the DLP candidate in one of the electorates whose name started with ‘A’ received about 2 per cent more votes than the DLP candidate in the other electorate whose name started with ‘R’. [More…]
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Therefore, notwithstanding what Senator Withers has said, I believe that there is such a thing as a donkey vote and that it favours the person whose name appears in the first position on the ballot paper. [More…]
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Very few people would vote for the Nazi Party. [More…]
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If one looks at the records one sees that the Nazi Party candidates, when their names appeared first on the ballot paper, scored 3 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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Do not tell me that there is no donkey vote. [More…]
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Do not tell me that 3 per cent of the people of Queensland voted consciously for the Nazi Party. [More…]
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They voted for that Party because they cast a donkey vote. [More…]
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It would not ask people to vote ‘ 1 ‘ for Young and 2’ for Withers. [More…]
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I suggest that he ought to stop being caucused and vote for a most desirable clause. [More…]
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Regarding whether there is a so-called donkey vote- and I hate that expression- if one looked up the records of the 1966 election, when Prime Minister Holt was returned to power with the biggest majority the non-Labor parties have had in my term in the Parliament, one would see, I believe, that 23 new people were elected as members of the Liberal-Country Party coalition. [More…]
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They will go for those they want first, and I do not believe that there is any factual information available to us which will show that, because a person is at the head of a list, he will get a favourable vote. [More…]
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As long as people are compelled to vote they ought to be given the widest possible opportunity to vote. [More…]
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But there is nothing to prevent the Electoral Office, if it is worried about long hours that its staff is working, from showing a little initiative and getting different people to count the vote. [More…]
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The quality of the person needed to strike people off the roll and to deliver ballot papers could be quite different from that of those who count the vote. [More…]
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I suppose we all know that if the polling booths were open for 24 hours, at the last minute people would come along to vote. [More…]
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Before the advent of television and drive-in theatres, when there were the old-fashioned picture theatres, lots of people voted between 7. [More…]
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The Opposition takes the simple view that if people are compelled to vote they ought to be given the greatest opportunity to vote. [More…]
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We are quite confident that, no matter when the election is held, we will know by 10 p.m. that night that we are in by a large majority because the vote will be such. [More…]
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For those reasons and for the reasons advanced by a number of my colleagues in the second reading debate, the Opposition will vote against clause 39. [More…]
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He leaves in the minds of people the idea that perhaps some voters in country areas cannot get to the polling booths by 6 o’clock. [More…]
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Of course, there is a simple solution to that problem, and that is for them to apply for postal votes. [More…]
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I call upon my Queensland colleagues on the Opposition side to deny that what I am saying is correct: There is no greater proportion of people who do not vote in the State elections than in the Federal elections, notwithstanding the fact that for the State elections the booths close at 6 p.m. whereas they close at 8 p.m. for the Federal elections [More…]
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Perhaps I could be a little uncharitable to the Queenslanders on the Opposition side and remind them that one of their leaders in Queensland said recently that, if the Queensland Government said that there should be a certain proposition, irrespective of their party affiliations they should vote in accordance with the desire of the Queensland Parliament. [More…]
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Senator Withers joked about the fact that even if the booths close at 6 o’clock instead of 8 o’clock people will want to vote at one minute past the closing hour. [More…]
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This comes from the Party which talked about one vote one value, and the necessity for everyone to be able to exercise his or her vote and to have his or her rights at the polls. [More…]
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What is most important is that we get the right election result so that everyone’s vote can count and everyone ‘s vote can be counted. [More…]
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We have seen in this Bill a concerted attempt to limit the right to a postal vote even further. [More…]
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Members of that community can vote after sunset. [More…]
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They do vote. [More…]
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They turn out and vote, given the chance. [More…]
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The Seventh Day Adventists want to know why their right to vote should be abrogated. [More…]
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Unless it can do so, we will persist in our intention to vote against what this Bill proposes and to seek to leave the hours of polling as they are now. [More…]
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As the hours of polling are at present, people can vote for almost all of the year because sunset almost never occurs after 8 p.m. [More…]
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It will be recalled that he moved an amendment which sought the establishment of a special register for general postal voters under which people who find that they cannot get to a polling booth on election day can register as general postal voters. [More…]
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At least the people who, because of their religious beliefs, cannot attend at certain times have the option of applying for a postal vote whereas the people who work at polling booths have no option. [More…]
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It is not as Senator Withers would say and as he has said- that the returning officer should engage another group of people to count the votes after the booth closes at 8 ‘clock. [More…]
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It is a very easy matter to speak about shortening the hours in which people may vote. [More…]
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The aim of a government is to get as many people to vote as is possible and to make it as easy as possible for those people to vote. [More…]
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It is very easy for those of us who can turn out to vote at any time on polling day to say in respect of those people who cannot do so: ‘Let them get a postal vote’. [More…]
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To get a postal vote is more difficult and more troublesome than just to go along and record one’s vote. [More…]
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Let them get a postal vote. ‘ [More…]
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In this democracy, everybody should have an equal right in the recording of votes. [More…]
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If people have other reasons for wanting to cast a postal vote that is their business, but in the normal course of events everybody should have an equal opportunity. [More…]
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I would say that one of the reasons for opening polling booths so early in the morning, that is at 8 o’clock, is to enable employees who are on their way to work to vote. [More…]
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I suppose I have worked outside polling booths for as long as, if not longer than, anybody else in this chamber and I have worked from 8 o’clock in the morning until 8 o’clock at night handing out how to vote cards. [More…]
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To me the paramount thing is that in this democracy every citizen should have the right to vote in the same way as anybody else. [More…]
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It is not for me, it is not for honourable senators opposite or for anybody else who can go to a polling booth between 8 a.m. and 6 p.m. to say that other people should be forced to cast a postal vote because they cannot attend until just before 8 p.m. [More…]
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I believe that in fairness everybody should be an equal chance to vote in the same way at the voting table. [More…]
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It is not for us to say that some section of the community, because of their religious beliefs and because they are a minority, should be made to vote in a different way to the rest of the community. [More…]
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I am exercising my mind about the arguments being put up by Senator Baume and Senator Wood that some people cannot vote before sunset. [More…]
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Many thousands of such voters in the eastern States of Australia, with the exception of Queenslanders who have not yet been enlightened about the value and the advantages of daylight saving, cannot vote in an election held in summer when the polls close at 8 p.m. [More…]
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This is done to stop the workers from casting their votes at all. [More…]
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These elections are held on a weekday to ensure positively that the elite of the town are the only people who can vote at them. [More…]
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The closing of polling booths at 6 p.m. is common for municipal elections and ensures that the persons who are working all day do not exercise their right to vote and the conservatives who have controlled these organisations for so many years continue to do so. [More…]
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They are held on a weekday to make it more difficult for the ordinary person in the street, irrespective of his political or religious beliefs, to vote and to exercise his right. [More…]
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Any person who has certain religious beliefs will not be disadvantaged by applying for a postal vote. [More…]
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Some people are unable to vote in the summer months because the sun has not set. [More…]
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Such workers would still be inconvenienced to the extent of having to obtain a postal vote. [More…]
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Many thousands of people who have no problems in voting because of their religious beliefs still would not be able to vote on the Saturday because they work a 12-hour shift. [More…]
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Many thousands of people travel interstate, perhaps on a holiday or for the purpose of visiting relatives, and before they leave their electorates they cast a postal vote. [More…]
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It is not a great inconvenience for any person who is likely to find himself in this position to make the normal application for such a vote and to cast his vote on the day prior to the election. [More…]
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It is utter nonsense to suggest that by shortening the hours of voting we are stopping people from casting a vote as they wish to do. [More…]
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The people concerned have been able to vote at elections by vitue of their right to cast postal votes. [More…]
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No great attempt is being made by the Government to stop any person who desires to vote in an election from doing so. [More…]
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The situation applies to many thousands of persons other than Seventh Day Adventists or Orthodox Jews who wish to exercise their right to cast a vote at an election. [More…]
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We can say, in effect, that we will keep the booths open for 24 hours because certain people in our community must go along and get postal votes as they cannot vote within the 12 hours that are allocated to them. [More…]
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No person in the community will be denied the right to vote because we are shortening the time allowable on voting day by 2 hours. [More…]
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Surely the object of a voting exercise is to make sure that all the people who may vote do vote and do so with the greatest amount of ease. [More…]
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It has been my experience at polling booths at provincial cities and towns that a voting pattern does exist in which voters present themselves basically in any of 3 periods. [More…]
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The voting periods during the day are the early morning period, the noon to 1.30 p.m. or 2 p.m. period, and the night period from 6 p.m. to 8 p.m. To take the 6 p.m. to 8 p.m. period away is to take away one third of the major options which are there for the Australian voter to use. [More…]
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Any number of people are involved directly and benefit by having a further 2 hours, at the end of a long working day at that time of the year, in which they can properly cast their vote. [More…]
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1 do not believe that the suggestion that there be made available to these people literally thousands more postal votes is a suitable solution. [More…]
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It involves the voter in a measure of difficulty, and it puts a greater burden on the workers at the polling booths. [More…]
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I feel that the opportunity of the Australian voter to vote is better served by leaving the closing time at 8 p.m. [More…]
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Reference was made by Senator Baume and Senator Wood to members of religious groups who are unable to vote before sundown. [More…]
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Although mention was made of such persons being unable to attend personally at a polling booth in summer months if 6 p.m. closing were introduced, I should point out that there is provision for them to vote. [More…]
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That section provides that a person who, because of his religious beliefs, is precluded from voting throughout the hours of polling on polling day or throughout the greater part of those hours may apply for a postal vote. [More…]
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I suggest, with great respect, that that argument is equally as logical as their proposal that because members of a minority group cannot vote between 8 p.m. and 6 p.m. ipso facto they cannot apply for a postal vote. [More…]
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The Government’s view is that polling hours from 8 a.m. to 6 p.m., together with the absentee and postal voting facilities, provide ample opportunities for persons to record their votes. [More…]
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Whatever time were specified for the closing of the poll, even if it were 10 p.m., people would still leave it until the last minute to record their vote. [More…]
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Arguments about the number of people who vote between 6 p.m. and 8 p.m., I suggest, are not valid in trying to establish a case for the retention of 8 p.m. closing. [More…]
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Consequently, the progressive results of the counting of the first preference votes for which the nation is waiting will be known much earlier on the night of polling day. [More…]
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Mr Orchard was forced to resign from the Tasmanian Legislative Council on 17 September 1968 as a result of a 10 to 8 vote of the Council because he was performing printing work for the State Government through the Telegraph Printery Pty Ltd, Charles St., Launceston, a printing business of which Mr Orchard was the sole proprietor or part owner with his wife. [More…]
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Therefore I shall vote for both the motion and the amendment. [More…]
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Some of those rumours and some of that gossip got very close to intimidation of honourable senators with a view to influencing them either to back off this proposition or perhaps to vote in a way contrary to the spirit of this motion and amendment. [More…]
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In seeking to refer the question for the clarification of all members, we tend to paper over or to obscure the real question on which we will vote, that is, whether we are sending Senator Webster to his political execution. [More…]
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I felt I was placed in a very difficult position indeed- te be expected to vote on this matter today, so joining in a witch hunt that stops at one man. [More…]
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Nevertheless I hope that the vote that will follow will allow this matter to go properly before the High Court and, in the terms of the Opposition’s amendment, allow other aspects to go to a judicial committee to ensure that this most important matter receives proper consideration in the proper places. [More…]
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I repeat to Opposition members who are interjecting, if they support the proposition that Supply Bills will not be rejected, the invitation that Senator Hall issued a few weeks ago, namely, to stand in their places and state categorically ‘I will not vote against a Supply Bill.’ [More…]
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It creates an instability in the people’s thinking when the Parliament meets to deal with matters of national importance and members on one side of the Parliament vote one way and members on the other side vote another way. [More…]
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During the period that my Party was the Government of this country I voted against my Party whenever I felt that its legislation was not correct. [More…]
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So far as I am concerned, whether it is the present Government or my own Party that misleads this Parliament I will always vote on these matters according to my conscience. [More…]
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I will not have anybody in this Parliament say that my vote on this issue is a vote on Party lines. [More…]
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I will vote for the motion because I believe that this House of Parliament was misled. [More…]
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In those circumstances, I shall vote for the motion. [More…]
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Therefore, I am pleased to add the voting strength of the Liberal Movement to the independence of Senator Bunton in this vote. [More…]
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1 believe that the AMP Society ought to make it clear that it is an anti-Labor organisation and should tell those people who vote Labor that it is an anti-Labor organisation before they try - [More…]
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If there had been no dissentSenator Hall was quite entitled to call ‘not formal’- the matter would have just been put to a vote. [More…]
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The Opposition will not vote for the Friday sittings. [More…]
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This is important because in this Parliament we are unique in that we allow only about 50 per cent of government expenditure to be the subject of a vote each year. [More…]
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I rise to enter this discussion briefly because I am much concerned about the time the Senate is wasting on something which is not applicable to the 2 Bills before us, particularly as there is an intention to move that the debate be adjourned until Tuesday when again we will have to come back to these 2 Bills and take a vote. [More…]
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We have been told today what the result of that vote will be. [More…]
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shall put to every person claiming to vote (not being an elector enrolled by virtue of section 41A) the following questions: [More…]
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Is your real place of living within the Division of ( here state the name of the Division in respect of which the elector claims to vote)? [More…]
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(if the question numbered (i) is answered in the negative)- Was your real place of living at any time within the last 3 months within the Division of (here state name of the Division in respect of which the elector claims to vote)? [More…]
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may, and at the request of any scrutineer shall, also put to any person claiming to vote all or any of the following questions: (iti) Have you already voted either here or elsewhere in this election (or in these elections, as the case requires)? [More…]
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Are you qualified to vote? [More…]
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I know that I came in for some comment and some criticism during the Joint Sitting of the Parliament last year when I said that in my youth I was brought up to believe in the slogan ‘Vote early and vote often’. [More…]
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We do not vote the graveyards in this country, as I know they do in some countries. [More…]
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But the question as to whether a person has already voted is still the most important question, not whether a person lives within a certain division or what is his real place of living. [More…]
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Surely the $64 question the presiding officer asks an elector when he comes up to the table is the first mandatory question in section 115: ‘Have you already voted either here or elsewhere in this election?’ [More…]
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Our proposed amendment- I do not think it is something which the Government ought to object to- to clause 42, paragraph (b) of sub-section 1 is to move sub-paragraph (iii) out of paragraph (b) as an optional question, that is ‘Have you already voted either here or elsewhere in this election . [More…]
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Every person claiming to vote at any polling booth shall state his christian name and surname, and, if so desired by the presiding officer, for the purpose of identifying the name under which the vote is claimed, any other particulars necessary to be stated in the roll. [More…]
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The reason we want to take this question out of the mandatory section is that when a person goes in to vote, someone confronts him and says: ‘Have you already voted either here or elsewhere today?’ [More…]
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The situation is that if a person were deliberately trying to vote twice, if his morality were such that he would vote twice, I doubt whether he would answer truthfully anyway. [More…]
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If he is asked, ‘Have you voted earlier? [More…]
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’, and if he is a rogue, he is hardly likely to answer: Yes, sir, I have, ‘ and will not vote again. [More…]
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Of course, after an election, as honourable senators know, the rolls are combed through to find the people who did not vote. [More…]
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If somebody appears to have voted twice the matter is more carefully checked than ever. [More…]
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The Opposition will vote against clause 45. [More…]
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Section 123 ( 1) (a) of the principal Act states that when an elector has a ballot paper for a Senate election he shall place the number 1 in the square opposite the name of the candidate for whom he votes as his first preference, and shall place the numbers, 2, 3, 4 and so on as the case requires in the squares opposite the names of all the remaining candidates so as to indicate the order of his preference for them. [More…]
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The argument is that in that election the number of informal votes was excessive. [More…]
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I do not believe that the high informal vote necessarily was brought about merely because of the large number of candidates. [More…]
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I will quote to honourable senators the number of informal votes cast at various elections since proportional representation was introduced in 1949. [More…]
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The informal vote at that election was 10.76 per cent. [More…]
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At the election held on 28 April 1951 the informal vote was 7.13 per cent. [More…]
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When a separate Senate election was held on 9 April 1953 the informal vote dropped to 4.56 per cent, which was quite a dramatic drop. [More…]
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At the conjoint election on 10 December 1 955 the informal vote rose to 9.63 per cent. [More…]
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When a conjoint election was held in the form of a double dissolution in an attempt to elect 10 candidates, again the informal vote rose to 10.77 per cent. [More…]
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Another interesting point is that the informal vote at House of Representatives elections has remained almost constant, varying between a low of, say, 1.9 per cent and a high of 3.1 per cent, which is hardly any enormous variation. [More…]
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There has been a lot of interesting folk law in regard to informal votes. [More…]
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I was able to do only a limited amount of research into this matter, but what I did discover was that the safer the seat for the Party the higher the informal vote, and the closer the result in any electorate the lower the informal vote. [More…]
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I know it has been said that in safe Labor held seats the informal vote tends to be higher. [More…]
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It is also true that in safe Liberal held seats the informal vote tends to be higher than in marginal seats. [More…]
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I did not have sufficient time to take out figures on the 127 electorates in Australia, but it would appear that in marginal seats- marginal for either the Government or the Opposition- where the electoral campaign is more intense and where the electoral fight is harder, the informal vote falls. [More…]
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Having cast their vote for one Party or the other via a candidate, they seem to think either that it has fixed the Government or it has fixed the Opposition. [More…]
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I suppose if one looked around for theoretical reasons for the oddity of the vote on 21 November 1970 one would realise that it was a peculiar election for a number of reasons. [More…]
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It saw a fall in the votes of both the major parties which were then in government and in Opposition and quite an unusual rise in the votes of the minor parties and the Independents. [More…]
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I think honourable senators will recall that some educational group in South Australia- I do not think it was the Council for the Defence of Government Schools- obtained quite an extraordinarly high vote. [More…]
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For all that theorising is worth, I think that may well account for the rise in the informal vote to 9.41 per cent in that odd separate Senate election in 1 970. [More…]
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One could extend that argument and say that there are too many informal votes which are not counted. [More…]
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If people do not have enough intelligence to be able to mark a ballot paper properly, why should their vote be counted anyhow? [More…]
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Are the major parties to be elected to office or sent into opposition on the votes of the least intelligent in the communitythose who need mark the ballot paper with only the number 1 in a House of Representatives election and with the numbers 1 to 5 when voting in a Senate election? [More…]
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I do not know whether any real evidence has been produced as to the cause of informal votes. [More…]
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I would not attempt to put a percentage on the number, but I believe that quite a number of informal votes are deliberately informal. [More…]
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Then there is the other informal vote- the person who votes 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, and 5 because he becomes confused. [More…]
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I do not think there is any real evidence as to what causes the informal votes. [More…]
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During the period when there was optional preferential voting at Senate elections- I think it was in the late 1920s or the early 1930s- the percentage of the informal vote was approximately the same as it has been since. [More…]
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The percentage of informal votes cast at [More…]
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Even when we had that odd system by which we voted 1, 2 and 3 and got all in or none in, even when we had the short period in which there was a form of optional preferences, whether one was electing 3 candidates when the total number of senators was 36 or 5 candidates now that the total number of senators is 60, no matter which system was used, since about 190 1 the informal vote has run constantly somewhere between 6 per cent and 10 per cent. [More…]
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It does not speed up the poll, nor will it reduce the number of informal votes. [More…]
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Senator Withers said that the people who vote should have enough intelligence to cast a formal vote. [More…]
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It is very hard for people with failing eyesight to cast a formal vote. [More…]
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I think we would have had a lot more formal votes if the people who were compelled to go to the polls had to vote only for the number of candidates required to fill the vacant positions. [More…]
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I think it goes without saying that if the people of Australia had been asked to vote only for the number of candidates required that informal vote could quite easily have been halved. [More…]
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I think it is most unfortunate that because of our education system in years gone by and because of other circumstances these unfortunate people cannot vote. [More…]
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They are deprived of the right to cast a formal vote because of their low standard of education. [More…]
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I think the best we can do for those people is to simplify the ballot paper so that they at least know the people for whom they wish to vote. [More…]
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So we are depriving those people of the right to cast a vote to elect the candidates of their choice in the respective States. [More…]
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I am indebted to Senator McLaren who told us that it will reduce the number of informal votes. [More…]
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The article quoted Mr Daly as having said that the optional preferential system was needed to avoid a repetition of the Senate elections in which 10.7 per cent of the vote was informal. [More…]
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I ask the Minister: Where is the documentary proof that will give us some reason for expecting that the requirement to write fewer numbers will lead to a smaller informal vote? [More…]
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For the Labor case to have any validity the Government must be able to show us an example where a voting alteration has led to an alteration in the result- a smaller number of informal votes. [More…]
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If we look at the results that have been obtained around Australia it appears that it is not the number of candidates or the exhaustive preferential system which affects the rate of informal votes. [More…]
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The proper casting of votes is a road to power. [More…]
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-Of the primary vote. [More…]
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The Liberal Party polled just under 30 per cent of the vote and the Labor Party polled just over 42 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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Notwithstanding the fact the the Country Party candidate was not wanted by the 29 per cent of the people who voted Liberal, or by the overwhelming majority of the 42 per cent of the people who voted Labor, the Country Party candidate won. [More…]
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It is arguable, of course, as to precisely what causes variations in the proportion of informal vote, although one fairly clear conclusion which can be drawn from the figures which Senator Withers has presented is that the informal vote rises with the number of candidates. [More…]
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There is a fairly clear correlation between an increase in the number of candidates and an increase in the informal vote. [More…]
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I did not note all of the figures which Senator Withers cited for the Senate, but I think there was a 10 per cent informal vote in half of the States. [More…]
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The informal vote for the House of Representatives varied between 1.9 per cent and 3.1 per cent. [More…]
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At least it is fairly clear that there is a correlation between the number of candidates and the number of informal votes. [More…]
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Of course it is fairly obvious that if people have to vote for an increased number of candidates there will be an increase in the informal vote. [More…]
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Despite Senator Baume ‘s argument, he still cited figures which proved that the informal vote was highest in New South Wales in 1974 when people had to vote for 73 candidates. [More…]
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They wanted to maximise the electors’ freedom of choice, where they would vote, how they would vote and so on. [More…]
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I am surprised it has not occurred to members of the Opposition that one of the reasons for introducing an optional preferential system is that people will still be able to record a valid vote without being compelled to number their preferences all the way down to number 73 and to record quite meaningless votes or be forced to record quite meaningless preferences when they have no real preference at all between candidates No. [More…]
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So honourable senators opposite are going to compel the electors, irrespective of whether the electors want to do so, to record a preference for every candidate on the ballot paper if the electors wish to record a valid vote. [More…]
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This is the real reason why the Opposition is opposing this measure: It wants to limit the freedom of choice that is available to the electorate; it wants to compel electors to continue to have to vote for every candidate; and it is frightened to embrace any change because that would reduce the effectiveness of its vote and lead to an almighty squabble between the two Opposition parties. [More…]
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I will accordingly vote with my colleagues on this subject. [More…]
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We still have State elections in which one must vote for every person on the ballot paper. [More…]
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What would happen if we were to have a federal election in which one had to vote for only some of the candidates? [More…]
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The figures are not available for the Senate for 1 90 1 , or I was not able to obtain them, but in 1903 under first past the post voluntary voting there was an informal vote of 3.6 1 per cent, in 1906 the figure was 6.36 per cent, in 1910 4.6 per cent, in 1913 5.65 per cent, in 1914 4.98 per cent and in 1917 3.9 per cent. [More…]
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In 1919, as I understand it, the first year in which there was a form of optional preference voting, namely, twice the number of candidates plus one, a person had to vote only from one to seven- not a difficult task. [More…]
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Under that system, in 1919 the informal vote rose to 8.61 per cent, in 1922 it rose to 9.44 per cent, in 1925 to 6.96 per cent, in 1928 to 9.88 per cent and in 1 93 1 to 9.6 per cent, under a system where voting was required only from one to seven. [More…]
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As I understand it, the Government’s argument is that, because of the high number of candidates, under the optional preference system where one votes only from one to five the amount of the informal vote will fall. [More…]
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I put it to the Committee that the experience in the Australian electorate in Senate voting between 1919 and 1931, when there were 5 Senate elections, shows that the informal vote was 8 per cent, 9 per cent, 6 per cent, 9 per cent and 9 per cent respectively. [More…]
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It was a very high figure, and one had to vote only one to seven. [More…]
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I put it to the Committee that if the optional preference system is introduced the informal vote is still going to sit around 8 per cent or 9 per cent; it will not fall. [More…]
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I understand that a reduction in informal votes has been the Government’s principal argument for the introduction of preferential voting. [More…]
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If one has to check from one to seventy-five, or even from one to fifty or sixty, it has to be done by counting one, two, three and so on down the ballot paper to make sure that it is a valid vote. [More…]
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I put it to the Committee, in all fairness, that it must be faster to check the tens of thousands of votes in New South Wales by checking from one to five than it is to check from one to seventy-four- and there is no guarantee that the number of candidates will be held down to seventy-four, in view of the amendments that the Opposition has thrown out. [More…]
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He said that the number of candidates does not bring about an increase in the informal vote. [More…]
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Why is it that in elections for the House of Representatives, when there are always only two, three, four or five candidates, invariably the informal vote is markedly lower than it is in the Senate? [More…]
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Senator Missen says that it may be a lack of interest, but I put it that year after year when the number of candidates for the House of Representatives has been two, three or four as against twenty-seven to seventy-five candidates for the Senate, the informal vote in the House of Representatives elections has been consistently so much lower. [More…]
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This clause proposes an amendment to section 123 of the principal Act, which deals with the method of marking of votes at a Senate election. [More…]
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Under the optional preferential system of voting which is proposed, although it is mandatory to vote only for the number of persons to be elected- one in the case of a House of Representatives election and five in the case of a normal periodical Senate election- every voter has the option of indicating further preferences for some or all of the remaining candidates. [More…]
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An important aspect of the system is that voters, while having the right to show preferences for all candidates should they so desire, are not compelled to do so and therefore are not compelled to vote for candidates for whom they have no preference at all. [More…]
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When a person has to vote for only two or three people in a very small committee, he can honestly say that he prefers A over B and B over C. Even in our own party rooms where we vote for people with whom we work all the year round, people who have the same ideology and people who have the same types of friendships and all the rest of it, we cannot conscientiously say after we get up into double figures that we want Joe Blow as No. [More…]
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The suggestion is that we should say to the people: ‘If you vote for one person in the case of the House of Representatives, if that is what you conscientiously want, that vote will be counted ‘. [More…]
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We say: ‘All right, you vote for the 5 people that you want elected’. [More…]
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He will not have to go on- unless he wants to- with the ridiculous procedure of going right down the list in an attempt to give a percentage point to somebody for whom the electors wants to vote. [More…]
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That election highlights the absurdity of requiring voters to indicate a preference for all candidates. [More…]
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I know that ‘how to vote’ cards are used and that many people follow them as best they can. [More…]
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It is clear that under a full preferential voting system there is a relationship between the number of candidates on the ballot paper and informality, simply because there are a number of voters who fall into error at each consecutive preference. [More…]
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In the 1974 Senate election in New South Wales, with 73 candidates, the informal vote reached 12.3 per cent or a staggering 332 818 ballot papers. [More…]
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There is a correlation between the number of candidates and the number of informal votes. [More…]
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There would be the same sort of atmosphere in the States other than New South Wales, where there was a high publicity drive which did hold down the informal vote to 12.3 per cent; but even in that State there is a correlation between the number of candidates and the informal votes. [More…]
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In New South Wales there were 1 9 Senate candidates and the percentage of informal votes was 10.08 per cent. [More…]
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Queensland had 15 candidates, with an informal vote of 1 7.9 per cent. [More…]
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People would say that they were not going to vote for those people. [More…]
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How often do we find that people do not vote because they say to themselves: ‘We have to vote for every one of the 50 candidates’. [More…]
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Actually they vote for only 5 candidates in a Senate election, but in order to make the vote formal they have to fill in the whole of the ballot paper. [More…]
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But nevertheless the principle of compelling persons to vote for candiates for whom they have no preference still applies. [More…]
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Under the proposed optional preferential system the voter at a House of Representatives election must indicate his first preference for one candidate and may indicate his further preferences for some or all of the remaining candidates as he so desires. [More…]
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The important thing is that a vote is not rejected outright because a voter failed by inadvertence or otherwise to indicate an order of preference for all candidates as is the case under the full preferential system, despite the fact that the majority of House of Representatives seats are decided on the count of first preferences. [More…]
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Under the optional preferential system, to the extent that preferences beyond the first are required to be counted, each ballot paper in the count is counted so far as the voter wishes to indicate a preference. [More…]
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Even though there is a slightly different argument with regard to the Senate, the principle remains the samethe principle whereby people are forced to number their preferences right down to 3, 4 or 5, trying to decide one against the other and sometimes are forced to vote for somebody for whom they have no time and would not want to vote for under any circumstances. [More…]
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We will vote for it but we will not insist on a division. [More…]
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On and after the date of issue and before the return of any writ for the election of a member of the Senate, or of the House of Representatives, or for the taking of any referendum vote, every article report, letter or other matter commenting upon any candidate, or political party, or the issues being submitted to the electors, printed and published in any newspaper, circular, pamphlet, or ‘dodger’ shall be signed by the author or authors, giving his or their true name and address or names and addresses at the end of the said article, report, letter, or other matter, or where part only of the article, report, letter, or other matter . [More…]
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We will vote for it. [More…]
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Your vote must be made by placing consecutive numbers, beginning with the number 1, in the squares opposite the names of candidates so as to indicate the candidates for whom you vote and the order of your preferences for them. [More…]
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Mark your vote on this ballot-paper by placing the numbers [here insert 1 , 2 and so on, as the case requires] in the squares immediately to the left of the names of the respective candidates so as to indicate the order of your preference for them. [More…]
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Your vote must be made by placing the number 1 in the square opposite the name of the candidate for whom you vote as your first preference. [More…]
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Mark your vote on this ballot-paper by placing the numbers [here insert ‘ 1 and 2 ‘ where there are two candidates, ‘1,2 and 3 ‘ where there are three candidates, ‘1,2,3 and 4’ where there are four candidates, and so on as the case requires] in the squares respectively opposite the names of the candidates so as to indicate the order of your preference for them. [More…]
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If Senator Withers looks at the clause that he is proposing to leave out he will see that it is less abrupt to say ‘your vote must be made ‘ than simply to say ‘ mark your vote ‘. [More…]
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We are dealing with some compulsion in voting, although the compulsion may not be observer if a person wishes to vote informally. [More…]
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Rather than Senator Hall persisting with his amendment, which the Government would have to vote against, simple though it is, I suggest that we take note of it and let the House of Representatives take it into cognisance when the Bill is returned to that House. [More…]
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The Darwin Reconstruction Bill 1975 was passed through this House on 19 February 1975 after full and complete debate, and the record of the vote taken on that Bill can be seen at page 311 of Hansard. [More…]
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What a pity it is that both Senator Drake-Brockman and Senator Jessop were not of that opinion on the night of 23 April when they voted to adjourn the Senate. [More…]
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If that bright Independent had maintained his independence and had been prepared to stay in this place that night and vote with the Government we would have got the Bill through, but he was on his way back to Albury when this vital legislation on the notice paper was waiting to be ratified to give the people in Darwin, the people who were suffering, the assistance that they so urgently required. [More…]
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I can only repeat that the amendments are not acceptable to the Government and we shall vote against them. [More…]
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These are a priori assumptions, and no matter how acceptable they may be to a majority, their proof cannot be established simply by vote. [More…]
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The racist policies of a Nazi Germany did not become valid simply because they had the acceptance, as they did, of a majority vote of the German people. [More…]
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Christianity will not become scientifically false or morally condemnable and socially unjust simply because in some country at some stage a majority vote might declare it to be so. [More…]
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For instance, it is not long ago, it is claimed, that women were given the vote. [More…]
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They fought very hard to obtain the right to vote, and they fought for many years. [More…]
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As an Australian have you thought about it seriously, or are you simply following the party line of seeking the Migrant vote? [More…]
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As an Austraiian, I have thought about it very seriously and I am not merely following the party line or seeking the migrant vote. [More…]
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If you want an Asian (or African) neighbour vote Labor and leave it to Grassby. [More…]
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If you want an Asian neighbour vote Labor . [More…]
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Honourable senators who would like to blow the cobwebs off the Hansards of that time will find that the vote was tied 28-all, and it was therefore resolved in the negative. [More…]
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Although one might have thought that Senator Jessop was opposing the legislation I understand that he, like other honourable senators, will vote for it. [More…]
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Therefore it is with regret that I realise how slim my numbers are on this vote. [More…]
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In order to facilitate the disposal of the amendments I do not mind whether the Committee takes the major vote on my first amendment and then regards all the other amendments as consequential or whether the Committee deals with the amendments together. [More…]
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In the circumstances I suggest that the Committee should either choose my first amendment as being the one on which a vote should be taken and all others will then be consequential, or we should deal with all those amendments I have enumerated and have one debate on them together. [More…]
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The Advance to the Treasurer must be made with Parliament’s approval, but the Opposition wants to restrict the Treasurer so that there must be repeated applications to the Parliament for an increase in the Advance to the Treasurer rather than have a single vote. [More…]
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In 1973-74 there was an appropriation of $30m in the Advance to the Treasurer against a total vote of $ 1,556m in the Supply Bill (No. [More…]
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In 1974-75 the appropriation in the Advance to the Treasurer doubled from $30m to $60m against a total vote of $ 1,840m in the Supply Bill (No. [More…]
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For the financial year 1975-76 there is an appropriation of $120m in the Advance to the Treasurer against a total vote of $2,692m in the Supply Bill (No. [More…]
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There is no automatic relationship between the total votes, but there is an automatic relationship between the appropriations provided in the Advance to the Treasurer. [More…]
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We will vote against it. [More…]
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The Labor Party was elected by a majority vote and, because of the voting system, the Opposition in this House has been able to pursue a wrangling opposition for 2V4 years by knocking back whatever legislation it wants to knock back. [More…]
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I ask senators opposite not to defeat the Bill by delaying it when they have not got the courage to vote it out on the second reading. [More…]
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Therefore I would have no alternative but to vote with the Opposition to defer the Bill. [More…]
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While taking this opportunity to reiterate the Government’s determination to uphold the principle of one vote one value, I also remind honourable members that under the Act as amended it remains possible for the Distribution Commissioners to fix the boundaries for divisions in a way which would result in enrolments varying from the State quota by up to 10 per cent, that is to say, an overall variation of up to 20 per cent. [More…]
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I indicate that we will vote against the motion proposed by the Minister for Foreign Affairs (Senator Willesee). [More…]
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The general allegation made by the Government, of course, is that these proposed boundaries are good for the Liberal Party but because of pressure from the National Country Party we will vote against the proposals. [More…]
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With less than 50 per cent of the first preference vote in 1972 and 1974 the Labor Party gained and held office. [More…]
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In 1974, 49.3 per cent of the first preference vote- I emphasise ‘first preference’gave it 52 per cent of the seats and a majority in the House of Representatives. [More…]
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I know that assumptions based on proposed boundaries always contain some degree of guesswork, but the interesting thing is that under the proposed boundaries the same percentage of the vote would give the Labor Party a majority of eleven. [More…]
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It is rather interesting also that with less than 50 per cent of the first preference vote a party could get a majority of five, but by shifting the boundaries it could get a majority of eleven. [More…]
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What will alter the balance between the parties is that one party or the other will gain a far greater percentage of the votes than it gained on the last occasion. [More…]
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For those reasons, for the general reasons which I put down as to the 5 electoral redistributions within Australia and for the particular reasons concerning South Australia, the Opposition will vote against not only this motion but also the 4 succeeding motions. [More…]
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His answer was quite clear: I stand as a candidate for the Liberal Movement and my party stands on the platform of one vote one value. [More…]
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This was highlighted by our opponents of the then Liberal Country League which represents the view of Senator Withers that there should not be electoral equality between the country and the city and that some additional weighting and value ought to be given to country votes. [More…]
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I reiterate that it was one of the most intensive campaigns that South Australia has seen and the party standing for one vote one value received 46 per cent of the votes in the first count and the then Liberal Country League received 29 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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That is an extremely valuable lesson and I wish that my side of politics would understand that a vast majority of its own backers and voters approve overwhelmingly the principle of electoral equality. [More…]
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Constant reference is made- Senator Hall also mentioned this- to the principle of one vote one value. [More…]
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I am sure that in this field our great ally, the Liberal Party of Australia, is in agreement with us when we say that if we are to have electoral justice and justice in redistributions proper consideration must be given to equality of electoral representation and that one vote one value of itself is relatively meaningless if you divorce value from effective representation. [More…]
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The suggestion is that one vote one value is the real contributor to electoral justice. [More…]
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I indicate, as I indicated earlier, that the Opposition will vote against this proposal also. [More…]
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I was somewhat taken to task for saying that I did not support this odd principle of one vote one value. [More…]
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I think there is basically a support throughout the Parliament for the principle of one vote one value, but we all know that that is impossible of attainment. [More…]
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It is impossible to get one vote one value. [More…]
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The conclusion that can be drawn from that is that those 5 mainland States have approximately the same number of electors, and it could be said that that basically would fit in with the principle of one vote one value. [More…]
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But for those who propound the theory that there must be one vote one value or there is not democracy, I go on to another series of seats. [More…]
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If there is going to be a wedding by Senator Hall, who claims to be wedded to this total principle of one man one vote, I trust he and his Party will campaign in the Australian Capital Territory, Tasmania and the Northern Territory saying that they should not have the number of seats they have because it works electoral injustice to the States of Queensland, Victoria, South Australia, New South Wales and Western Australia. [More…]
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We on this side have always believed that the tolerance ought to be 20 per cent, because that is a more practicable tolerance, but to attempt to bring into the Australian electorate a totality of one vote one value is one of the greatest pieces of nonsense ever propounded in this Parliament. [More…]
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I am just saying that, whilst it is ridiculous to have one electorate for 106 000, we are prepared to tolerate having two for 53 000, and we do not get excited about there not being one vote one value in the other States; nor do we get excited about Tasmania having only 49 000 whereas Queensland has 64 000. [More…]
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We do not attempt to go for this nonsense of one vote one value as a totality of proposition. [More…]
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All I am putting is that if the honourable senator agrees with one vote one value as a totality, he should go to Tasmania and tell people there that there should be only 4 seats and that his Party will promote a referendum to attempt to bring this about. [More…]
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Let it promote a referendum in which it says that, because it is so wedded to democracy in this country and to the principle of one vote one value, it intends to ask the electors of Australia to take away one Tasmanian seat. [More…]
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For goodness sake, let us stop all this nonsense of tossing around this one vote one value as though it is some terribly sacred principle that the whole electoral system has to be distorted to achieve. [More…]
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Each State must be voted upon separately. [More…]
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In any one vote, the legislation with regard to a State may be rejected. [More…]
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I know we want to take a vote on this matter before the suspension of the sitting for lunch. [More…]
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If I were required to vote on this legislation today I would vote against it because of the extreme difficulty which I have in understanding just what it is supposed to do and certainly what it may do as a result of these extraordinarily vague and wide provisions. [More…]
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My colleagues not only support what I am putting to the Senate but they will shortly come into this place and vote against what the Opposition has decided to do in relation to this legislation. [More…]
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Senator Greenwood spoke against the Bill yet he will vote for it. [More…]
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The matter of Senator Webster is proceeding and, I believe, proceeding satisfactorily Therefore, whilst I regret this matter and whilst I would like to see the Committee pursue the matters of principle raised I will pursue my belief by supporting my amendment in a vote of the House. [More…]
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Moreover, the honourable member for Gwydir, Mr Hunt, disagreed with the honourable member for Bennelong, not on a value judgment about what does or does not constitute a proper and fair result for a particular number of votes polled, but on the facts of what would happen as a result of a 3 per cent swing. [More…]
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According to the honourable member for Gwydir, if Labor obtained 45 per cent of the primary vote- that is a figure somewhat less than the 48.7 per cent vote to which Mr Howard referred- under these new boundaries it would hold 66 seats. [More…]
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According to the honourable member for Bennelong, Mr Howard, Labor, with a slightly higher vote, would hold 59 seats. [More…]
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1 do not know how the members of the Opposition reconcile that contradiction in the arguments put by their 2 parties; that is, one claims that a party polls 45 per cent of the votes and wins 66 seats and another says the same party polls more than that and wins 59 seats. [More…]
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The honourable member for Bendigo is saying that in the State where Labor holds all the seats it will simultaneously be able to increase its vote in all of the seats as a result of drawing new boundaries. [More…]
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Senator Withers was really saying that Senator Hall was a mug because he allowed the electoral laws of South Australia to be amended in such a way that the Labor Party was able to form a government with 53 per cent of the vote, whereas formerly it had not been permitted to form a government with 54 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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The second reason why I oppose this redistribution is that I am completely opposed to the principle of taking representation away from the remoter areas, despite what members of the Government might say in their great support for the one vote one value concept which of course they do not practice at any stage. [More…]
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If we take this concept of one vote one value right down to the grass roots we will find that because Sydney and Melbourne and their environs will have more than half the population of Australia they will have more than half the representatives in Parliament. [More…]
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When dealing with the democratic system the vote of each person is measured equally. [More…]
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If we move away from the principle of one vote one value, as the Country Party has suggested, we will fall back into the errors of the pocket borough system that once existed in the United Kingdom and that exists in Queensland at the present time. [More…]
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I am also against the proposition that because the area of an electorate is large the vote of each person in it should be weighted against that of the city dweller. [More…]
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In the course of my remarks supporting the redistribution proposals for South Australia, I have already commented on the general background to the redistributions which are to be considered for all States other than Western Australia, indicating why the situation is one which cannot be tolerated by any Government committed to the principle of ‘one vote, one value’. [More…]
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What will happen in Victoria is that 56 per cent of the seats will be won by the Australian Labor Party with 48 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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In the aggregate what it amounts to is that on the 1974 figures 56 per cent of the seats in Victoria will be won by the Australian Labor Party with 48 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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This redistribution in Victoria has been carried out on the basis of entrenching in power a party which obtained the majority of seats in Victoria- 56 per cent of the seats- with 48 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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It is not my duty to advocate that the honourable member for La Trobe (Mr Lamb) should be entrenched in his seat with a certain percentage of the votes, whereas in the last election he just scraped through. [More…]
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The Liberal vote in La Trobe, which was 45 percent at the last election, has been brought down to 43 per cent. [More…]
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In the last election the Liberal vote in the electorate of Isaacs was slightly more than 50 per cent, and there was a very close finish in that seat. [More…]
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The Liberal vote for that electorate has been reduced to 45 per cent. [More…]
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So the guns which have not got a vote in Australia at present- they have a vote in China- are in the electorate of Bendigo, and the people who want to vote are in the electorate of Indi. [More…]
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If one goes over the whole of the Victorian map one finds these little distinctions, like a drain going down the middle of a certain area with the voters on one side of the drain in one electorate, and the voters on the other side of the drain in another electorate. [More…]
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We find that the ruling Party in this Parliament at present can be entrenched in a majority of seats with 48 per cent of the votes. [More…]
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On those grounds I beseech honourable senators who sit on this side of the chamber, when it comes to a vote, to reject this map for Victoria in accordance with section 24 of the Electoral Act. [More…]
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The result will be that the Liberal vote will be reduced from 48.8 per cent, which could have been expected on the March proposals, to 48.34 percent at the present time. [More…]
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I remind the Senate that for the election held on 18 May 1974 the vote in New South Wales for the Australian Labor Party was 52.7 per cent of the total. [More…]
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If, however, one looks at Mr Malcolm Mackerras ‘s 2-party preferred vote system the Labor Party can be stated to have gained approximately 54.9 per cent. [More…]
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On the present basis Labor, holding 54.9 per cent of the 2-party preferred vote, holds 56 per cent of the seats; but on the new redistribution, if the proposals are adopted, Labor would come to hold 60 per cent of the seats. [More…]
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The Liberal and Country parties have on the expressed 2-party preferred vote system 45.1 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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When we examine the redistribution we find that if the Labor Party lost some of its votes, if it polled only 48 per cent of the popular vote, it could continue to hold 53 per cent of the seats. [More…]
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The Liberal and Country Parties could obtain more than 50 per cent of the votes in New South Wales and could do no better than win 47 per cent of the seats. [More…]
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This is really the crux of the matter because the question concerning us is whether we can ensure that the majority will as expressed in the vote in New South Wales can be represented in the House of Representatives by a majority of the seats going to that Party. [More…]
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1 per cent of the vote using the Mackerras preferred 2-party extrapolation. [More…]
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If we examine a 5 per cent swing away from Labor we can see that on the Mackerras system this would bring the Liberal vote to above 50 per cent. [More…]
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We would move to only 2 1 seats out of 25 seats and that 5 per cent swing would give us a majority of the popular vote. [More…]
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It is the essence of a gerrymander that a change in the popular vote does not remove a government which fails to get a majority of votes. [More…]
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It does not hold out any opportunity for the Liberal-Country Parties to win a majority of seats in the House of Representatives, commensurate with the popular vote, lt makes it virtually impossible for the non-Labor parties to get more than 23 seats even if their vote goes to 52 per cent of the popular vote. [More…]
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On the 1974 figures for the seat of Concord the Liberal vote would be 49.93 per cent and the Labor vote 46.54 per cent. [More…]
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For Eastwood the Liberal Party vote would be 58.09 per cent and the Labor Party vote 37.3 per cent. [More…]
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After the last election there was a tremendous amount of agitation, particularly among young voters, for certain changes in our electoral system. [More…]
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I cannot canvass the rather staid response to some of the other reforms, but whether or not it is felt that the one vote one value concept is a Utopian one, I repeat that if the numbers of enrolments in electorates are really close- the big Labor vote locked up in an electorate such as Reid or Blaxland- it certainly means that in the closely contested seats overall the Labor Party is always at a disadvantage. [More…]
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The issue before the Senate can be stated simply in this way: Are we to allow the map maker’s pen or the electors by vote in the ballot box to decide who will govern this country? [More…]
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That is the simple issue, and I demonstrate it this way: The map maker’s pen proposes in the New South Wales redistribution to increase the number of seats to be held by the Labor Party in the State by three, without one change of one vote in the ballot box. [More…]
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As much has been said about majority rule and of one vote one value, I will have a little to say about it. [More…]
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As a result, the map makers in the State of New South Wales, to be analysed now, have given in their proposal 3 extra seats in net gain to the Labor Party without the alteration of a vote. [More…]
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Much has been said about majority rule and the concept of one vote one value. [More…]
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If there is to be one vote one value the party or parties which command a majority of votes must win a majority of seats. [More…]
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The primary reason for one vote one value is that it shall ensure majority rule. [More…]
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The whole of the argument of the Labor Party on the question of the differentials in seats, whether it be a 20 per cent tolerance or 10 per cent tolerance, was based on the principle of one vote one value. [More…]
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The Minister in another place, Mr Daly, who has been so vocal on this matter, comes from an electorate which is traditionally in defiance of the principle of one vote one value, and the proposal of the map makers will entrench that defiance. [More…]
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Five voters in Mr Daly’s electorate are equivalent to 7 voters elsewhere. [More…]
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Is that one vote one value? [More…]
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The very man who leads this crusade for one vote one value represents a seat which remains continually in defiance of that concept. [More…]
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I could cite the seats one by one which will be in defiance of the principle of one vote one value within a year. [More…]
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Every one of the distributions done in our time meant that the party or parties that gained a majority of votes would get a majority of seats. [More…]
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The very electoral boundaries on which Labor won in 1972 and 1974 enabled the Labor Party to get a majority of seats by polling 49.3 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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Let me talk to this party that proudly asserts these lovely principles of majority rule and one vote one value. [More…]
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Had that submission been accepted by the map makers- it was not very far from being accepteda party which won 25 seats one year ago would now win 29 seats on the same vote. [More…]
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So by its skill of penmanship the Australian Labor Party proposes that the Party should gain 4 seats with no more votes. [More…]
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It proposes that with 52 per cent of the vote it should get 64.4 per cent of the seats. [More…]
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That is the same Labor Party which here mouths the hypocritical platitudes of one vote one value. [More…]
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Is it one vote one value when 52 per cent of the votes will produce 64.4 per cent of the seats? [More…]
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The Government was returned on the basis of 49.3 per cent of the vote giving 52 per cent of the seats. [More…]
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The Ministers who mouthed the principle of one vote one value are now supporting a redistribution which will give preferment to themselves. [More…]
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As Senator Scott so ably said, they have not given one vote one value to the country areas, but 6 city votes are equivalent to 7 country votes. [More…]
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Was it the electors- the people who the Government says shall decide by their majority vote and the people each of whose vote shall have one value? [More…]
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In so doing they seek to give to the Labor Party 3 more seats without another vote being recorded, they seek to entrench Labor in the swinging seats and they defy every rule of the Electoral Act in their interpretation. [More…]
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How can the Labor Party get up and support the principles of the Act when the seat of one of its Ministers- the seat of Grayndler- will be in defiance of the principle of one vote one value, as will Mr Cope’s seat. [More…]
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Of course, it confers an enormous advantage upon the Labor Party if its votes are spread and spread widely while the votes of the Liberal and Country Parties are herded together. [More…]
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There has been a stacking of votes in the country. [More…]
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Where is the one vote one value principle in the fact that, as I have said, the votes of 7 country voters will equal the votes formerly of 6 country voters?. [More…]
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Where is the one vote one value principle when in a short and measurable period of time the Grayndlers and the Sydneys of this world will have the votes of 5 of their voters equal to the votes of 7 voters in certain other electorates. [More…]
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The fact is that he was the first person to go down in history as demonstrating the skill of the map makers’ pen in defiance of the electors’ vote. [More…]
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Because it did not like the fact that 3 or even 4 out of every 5 voted against it the famous party that Senator McLaren clucks and clucks about and, of course, broods about on his perch abolished such a democratic right and some 100 000 people in New South Wales were denied the right to vote from 1950 until 1965. [More…]
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Despite the fact that the Liberal and Country Parties polled a majority of the votes twice out of three times in each of those 2 decades they were kept out of government. [More…]
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It finally took something like 56 per cent of the vote in New South Wales to defeat a government of the political complexion about which Senator McLaren now preaches. [More…]
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Throughout its history the Labor Party has tried to deny the principle of one vote one value. [More…]
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This redistribution stands in defiance of the principle of one vote one value. [More…]
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My training was such that my own influence on redistribution in my own State and throughout the Commonwealth has been such that the principle of one vote one value and majority rule have persisted at all times. [More…]
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I want to say finally that the very principles that the Labor Party for months and months and months stood up in this chamber and in another place and mouthed- the principle of one vote one value and the right of majority rule- are the reasons why these proposals should be rejected. [More…]
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-The historical fact is that the Labor Party polled 53 per cent of the vote throughout Australia in 1953 or 1954 but did not become the Government. [More…]
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It should have included not only the principle on which emphasis has been placed, that is, one vote one value, but also the questions of area and the productivity of an area which is of vital concern in the light of our export trade. [More…]
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I suppose that if we were to do that the people in the Pilbara area would have 10 votes to every one else ‘s one vote because there is more productivity there than in any other place in Australia. [More…]
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Many senators coming into the chamber, having taken part in the efforts of creating policies and determining attitudes to Bills, sometimes find that they must work with and vote for clauses and Bills which they do not believe are particularly satisfactory. [More…]
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The last of these objectionable arguments to which I wish to refer is the document received from the Immigration Restriction Council which has accused us of merely following the Party line of seeking the migrant vote. [More…]
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The Government will vote for the original motion I moved. [More…]
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We would vote against the inclusion of the words but I certainly would not seek to divide on it. [More…]
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Once the vote was secured, and the road to socialism lay open, the riot and the strike ceased to be the only weapons, and could be seen for what they were: methods socially destructive by their very nature, and therefore anti socialist. [More…]
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Prior to 1969 Australia’s role had been to vote in the United Nations General Assembly for the Convention. [More…]
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It indicated its general approval of the principles contained in the Convention by its vote in favour of it in the United Nations General Assembly. [More…]
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Mr Temporary Chairman, I understand Senator Greenwood has indicated -of course this attitude was expressed in the vote at the second reading stage- that the Opposition does not oppose this Bill, but it is becoming increasingly obvious that Senator Greenwood accepts the Bill with great reluctance. [More…]
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The Opposition opposes clause 17 and will vote against it. [More…]
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Normally the cost of replenishing stores provided by all three Services in times of natural disasters is met from the Defence Vote, which is supplemented as necessary for these purposes. [More…]
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3) 1974-75 provided additional funds to the Defence Vote to cover expenditure in 1 974-75 by the Services as a result of Cyclone Tracy. [More…]
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However, the effect of this amendment that has come to this place from the House of Representatives is such that after hearing Senator Wright I think it should be rejected, and I will vote accordingly. [More…]
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-The Opposition proposes to oppose and vote against clause 23. [More…]
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-Mr Temporary Chairman, before the amendment finally goes to a vote, could I have an explanation of the status of paragraph (d) of clause 26(1)? [More…]
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That is a course that we believe should be able to be followed and accordingly the Opposition will vote against this sub-clause. [More…]
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The Opposition does not support and will vote against the amendment to sub-clause (2) which has been moved by the Minister. [More…]
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After all, the National Party is still dictating the policies of Queensland, even with it exalter vote- a mere 29 per cent of the total vote. [More…]
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Senator Sheil must recall that over the years the National Party has dominated the Liberal Party and the State of Queensland with 19 per cent of the total votes. [More…]
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If he can tell me that a minority vote of 19 per cent can put a majority party into power, he can hardly say that this is an exercise in the expression of the democratic will of the people. [More…]
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If the Labor Party wanted to win a majority of seats in the Queensland Parliament it would need to receive about 56 per cent or 57 per cent of the total votes. [More…]
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The National Country Party cannot always stay in office with a minority vote. [More…]
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It canvassed votes in order to get a gentleman from the Mareeba area on the No. [More…]
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The members of his Party hoped like hell that an Aboriginal would not get the votes. [More…]
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Because of that I ask the Senate to vote against it. [More…]
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For that reason I do not intend to vote for a deferment. [More…]
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The ALP national executive is expected to vote at its next meeting in Canberra in July to give several thousand dollars as part of a continuing aid program. [More…]
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The second thing that has to be clearly understood is that the dead President of Chile was elected by about 34 per cent to 36 per cent of the popular vote. [More…]
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Senator Sir Magnus Cormack told the Senate that Dr Allende was elected with 34 per cent of the votes. [More…]
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He obtained 34 per cent of the primary vote. [More…]
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There was then a run-off election and the Christian Democrats voted for him. [More…]
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When he was elected ultimately he was elected with over 60 per cent of the votes because the Christian Democratic Party supported him in the run-off election. [More…]
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If only it could be revealed that Senator Greenwood gets up in the Senate and exposes the former Chairman of the Commission of the European Economic Community as a dangerous conservative, even the most addle-Dated recipient of League of Rights literature in the electorate of Maranoa would have doubts about casting a vote for the Opposition at any time in the future. [More…]
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The Bill provides that rank and file members of any organisation that has the collegiate style of election may not vote for a period of 3 years after the amalgamation. [More…]
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Further the Bill seeks to abolish the requirement for a minimum number of members to vote in an amalgamation ballot. [More…]
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We say that there ought to be a minimum requirement of 50 per cent of the union membership voting in an amalgamation ballot before the point is reached of considering the actual decision of those who vote. [More…]
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When the Government accepts that it is a fair thing that at least 50 per cent of the union members should vote in a ballot and that at least 50 per cent of those voting in favour of the amalgamation is required, I am sure that we will reach a point at which we can get some common agreement. [More…]
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He said that if an organisation gets a vote of 30 per cent of its members it is doing very well, yet Senator Greenwood insists that the figure should be 50 per cent. [More…]
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The member presiding at a meeting of the Council has a deliberative vote and, in the event of an equality of votes, also has a casting vote. [More…]
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The Opposition proposes to vote against this clause. [More…]
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We know that from experience, and yet, on the other hand, members of the Opposition vote enthusiastically in favour of proposals to make presents to big business, as we witnessed earlier this afternoon when a 6-figure amount was given to a Tasmanian business. [More…]
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I am sure that Senator McAuliffe expects some additional votes out of this matter. [More…]
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He should not humbug the country because he wants some votes. [More…]
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I have voted against the interests, as seen, of some big businesses in this country. [More…]
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I have voted against what some businesses have believed was their interests in restrictive trade practices. [More…]
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I have voted against the interests of a great number of individuals in the community. [More…]
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From my assessment of individuals I would guarantee that no one on this side of the chamber would vote for the Bill because of those threats. [More…]
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I do not intend to over react and vote for the amendments because of those threats, any more than I intend to vote for the Bill because of them. [More…]
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Is that not vote gathering? [More…]
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Every letter I have received, every telegram, and every representation, not only in respect of the current piece of legislation but also when the committee of which I was vicechairman was considering this legislation over the past 18 months, was proper and courteous, and in no circumstances could it be described as a piece of blackmail, vote gathering, or what have you. [More…]
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Of course, Mr Chipp was speaking for the Opposition Parties at the last election- when obviously he was vote catching; he was seeking to get support from Commonwealth public servants- the Opposition pledged itself to support a scheme that was in advance of all existing superannuation schemes in Australia. [More…]
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If only the Labor Party, of which Senator McLaren is so publicly a member, had advocated a positive proposal instead of hiding in a cowardly fashion behind public opinion and then manipulating to obtain a no vote, the position would have been different. [More…]
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That Bill failed on 26 February this year, on a tied vote, to receive a second reading in the Senate. [More…]
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That Bill failed on 26 February this year, on a tied vote, to receive a second reading in the Senate. [More…]
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I accept the point made by Senator Cotton that we should put this amendment to the vote. [More…]
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Those comments by persons on whom the Government, and the Parliament to a very large degree, have relied in drawing up this legislation should be borne in mind before we vote on this issue. [More…]
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I agree that it will be necessary for us to vote on this amendment, and presumably, to divide. [More…]
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But I say again that whenever that vote is taken it would be very unfortunate if this provision which has been written into the Bill by the Government is rejected. [More…]
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We believe the matter should be put to a vote. [More…]
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Therefore on this particular amendment I intend to vote with the Government. [More…]
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Our amendments, as they stand on that assumption, even if they had included the excision of the widows pension- this will have to be adjusted a little in view of the late vote- would still have left an improvement in this scheme which would cost $743m or 12.2 per cent. [More…]
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The Opposition at that stage sought to have some permanent arrangements introduced by 1 April this year, but on a tied vote the Senate decided not to include that particular amendment. [More…]
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That in matters of procedure, each of the Chairmen, whether or not occupying the Chair, has a deliberative vote and, in the event of an equality of voting, the Chairman occupying the Chair has a casting vote. [More…]
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That in matters other than those of procedure, each of the Chairmen, whether or not occupying the Chair, has a deliberative vote. [More…]
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Anybody outside listening to this debate surely would have got the impression that it is the intention of a party or a group of people who spoke so strongly against what we are debating here at present to back up their words with their actions in due course and to vote against the proposal. [More…]
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They will not be game to put their vote on the line against this proposition when the vote is taken. [More…]
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I suggest that is why, while the inclinations of the Opposition are against this proposal, it is just not game to vote against the Bill. [More…]
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His anger would stem from the fact that he is not in a position, politically, to vote against the Bill. [More…]
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I suggest, Mr Deputy President, that at this stage the Senate might take a vote on the matter. [More…]
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The Opposition has in the past on each occasion when the matter has come for debate, voted against the proposal to establish a Superior Court of Australia. [More…]
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The Government, I am sure, anticipates that on this occasion the Opposition will vote against the Bill and that the second reading will be negatived. [More…]
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There, with the greatest nerve- he has some excellent nerve, I must admit- Senator James McClelland tells us how we are going to have these separated courts yet he is asking us at the same time and in this document to vote for a Superior Court Bill which goes in the opposite direction and which would destroy the provisions we made for the family court in the Family Law Bill. [More…]
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So we put our arguments to honourable senators opposite again, probably for the last time, in the hope that our logic and the intrinsic merits of the idea will have come home to them and will have converted them and that tonight, despite the errors of their past, when it comes to the crunch they will find it in their hearts to cross the floor and vote for the Superior Court Bill. [More…]
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I would think that the proper thing now is to put the question to the vote. [More…]
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I have been here for 2 5 te years and I do not think that I have ever been afraid to vote for or oppose in accordance with what I considered to be the right thing. [More…]
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If he wishes to proceed with the motion, we will vote on it. [More…]
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I should not like to say that I would be personally disappointed if the vote on this motion went against my inclusion in the delegation. [More…]
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But I know that the 23 per cent of the non-Labor voters in South Australia who voted for me at the Senate elections would be disappointed. [More…]
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Otherwise the vote would not have been almost 2-1 in favour . [More…]
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I do not suppose that anyone needs any great political literacy to realise that there will not be a 2- 1 vote in the Labor Party Caucus or in a caucus or equivalent meeting of any political party unless a very great number of people who represent capital city electorates vote for the decision. [More…]
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Therefore I intend to vote against Senator Missen ‘s amendment. [More…]
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I will vote against the original motion if it includes the word ‘may’ instead of retaining the mandatory element which requires the calling of evidence. [More…]
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I join in the motion that has been moved for a vote of sincere sympathy to be passed on to his wife and family. [More…]
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I want to draw the Senate’s attention to an advertisement that appeared in the Advertiser today in which Mr Dunstan asked people not to vote for the Labor Party but to re-elect the Dunstan Government. [More…]
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It is now claimed by the Opposition that the Government did not vote against their motion. [More…]
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Will the Government vote against that? [More…]
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I think it is time we came to a vote on this matter. [More…]
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I suppose that, if a secret vote were taken on the matter in the Australian Labor Party, the majority of its members also would opt for a royal commission. [More…]
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the Chairman of the Meeting, as my proxy to vote for me and on my behalf at the Annual General Meeting of the Company to be held on the 21st day of December 1970 . [More…]
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I have been here for 25’A years and I do not think that I have ever been afraid to vote for or oppose in accordance with what I considered to be the right thing. [More…]
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Had Senator Withers looked up the record he would have seen that the motion debated at the time and on which he stated I, amongst others, voted was that the Standing Orders be suspended to enable the motion of which notice was given earlier in the day by Senator Murphy to be debated. [More…]
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So the vote that Senator Withers said yesterday that we dealt with to bring the then Secretary of the Department of Air to the Bar of the Senate was not any motion that. [More…]
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Senator Douglas McClelland made great play of the fact that I said yesterday that on 1 November 1967 he and a number of his colleagues voted basically to summon a certain public servant before the Senate. [More…]
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He took the very technical point that it was a vote on a motion to suspend Standing Orders. [More…]
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That is true, but one hardly votes for the suspension of Standing Orders if one does not intend to vote for the subsequent motion. [More…]
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Who voted for that motion but the Prime Minister, Mr Connor, Mr Hayden and Mr Enderby? [More…]
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I ask the Minister for Foreign Affairs: Why did the Government delegates at the International Labour Organisation Conference and the World Meteorological Conference vote in favour of the Palestine Liberation Organisation, a notorious terrorist organisation, being allowed to participate in those conferences? [More…]
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We voted for that amendment because it would be a great step forward if one could bring the PLO just to say that. [More…]
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That amendment failed and when it did fail we proceeded to vote for the substantive motion. [More…]
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Their embryonic thoughts were not so much that there would be a plain vote by the people but that some sort of body would be formed, not a parliament but a constituent body, to give the 3 organisations that have arisen in Portuguese Timor some chance to develop, to get together, to rub the rough edges off one another and to move along to a position where they could finally decide what sort of situation they wanted- whether they wanted to be independent or to carry on as a colony of Portugal or indeed, as Apodeti wanted, to join with Indonesia. [More…]
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Mr President, I intervene but shortly to indicate that as previously when this matter was before the Senate, Opposition senators will have a free vote on these questions. [More…]
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As Senator Withers has indicated on behalf of the Opposition that Opposition senators will have a free vote in this matter, likewise Government senators will have a free vote. [More…]
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The query was put on the basis of the right of the minority to test a vote in the Parliament. [More…]
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It is only quite recently that the question has been raised that the person who calls for the division has to be a member of the minority group involved in the vote. [More…]
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A person may want to record the fact that when a certain question came before the House he voted for or against it. [More…]
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A person may be proud of his vote on that occasion. [More…]
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At present if I happened to be among the majority of opinion of the Senate on a particular issue a dispute could arise at a later date as to how I recorded my vote on that occasion. [More…]
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There is no indication in Hansard of how I voted. [More…]
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It was for the sole purpose of meeting the situation when an issue was of such particular importance to an individual that he wanted how he voted or how someone else voted recorded that we had the right to call a division and so have a record of voting which could be produced to show the action of each individual in a particular division. [More…]
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That is something that has not been abused and I think the right to have recorded how one votes or how somebody else votes on a particular question is one which should be preserved. [More…]
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This is in effect what we are doing by demanding the right to say to the Chairman that although he declared your vote to be correct he is incorrect. [More…]
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I think that if any honourable senator rose to his feet immediatelY after any vote when no division had been taken, and said: ‘I want my name recorded in Hansard as being in favour of or against that motion’, he would not be denied that right. [More…]
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On many occasions this procedure has been used at meetings at which I have been present other than in this Parliament when there has been a majority of 300 to 20 on the voices and those 300 have used their voices to demand a division in order to flush out those who voted against the question. [More…]
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So it can be used for purposes other than the legitimate right of a person to cast a democratic vote. [More…]
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Rather than call for a division to record my vote as having opposed this proposal, I shall briefly voice my opposition. [More…]
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I think we should proceed to vote on the matter although I am not going to move the relevant motion. [More…]
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In it Senator Withers stated quite unequivocally that it was the responsibility of Liberal senators in this Parliament to vote in accordance with decisions taken by the entire Parliamentary Liberal Party. [More…]
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The Opposition will vote against this Bill, as it did when it was previously before the Senate. [More…]
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If the Government showed the same persistence in dealing with the problems of inflation and unemployment it would not need to devote so much of its time to rigging the electoral system. [More…]
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It seems to devote more time to thinking up ways of fiddling the electoral system than it does to looking after the interests of the Australian people. [More…]
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Will the Bill stop the Government going out and trying to buy votes? [More…]
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I give as an example of that the fact that this Government went on an incredible vote-buying spree in Bass and the electors in that electorate had the sense to treat this blatant exercise with the contempt it deserved. [More…]
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But the taxpayer paid for the Government to run around buying up votes. [More…]
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What Mr Daly wants is freedom for the Government to use taxpayers’ money to buy votes and limitations on everyone else so that they cannot compete, even though their funds are provided voluntarily. [More…]
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For those and the other reasons I outlined when the Bill was previously before the Senate, the Opposition will vote against the second reading of this Bill. [More…]
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It is my considered opinion that in answering those questions I would give my vote in favour of the second one. [More…]
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It did not get the majority vote that it sought, and it was a fair political ploy for the Opposition to ridicule the referendum proposal. [More…]
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It is sometimes said by cynics that members of the Liberal Party cannot count very well because they do not vote at Liberal Party meetings. [More…]
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The Department of Supply continues in existence, financed from the Defence Vote, under a directive from the Prime Minister maintaining at least for the time being a relationship with the Department of Defence through which the Minister for Supply and the Minister for Defence collaborate in the execution of relevant defence policies. [More…]
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These steps have succeeded in reducing the proportion of the Defence Vote allocated to manpower from 61 per cent in the 1973-74 financial year to 56 per cent in this Budget. [More…]
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This increased efficiency has contributed towards the Government’s dramatic increase in the proportion of expenditure devoted to equipment in this Budget. [More…]
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Details of the third important component of the defence vote, namely defence facilities, are given in a document which I shall ask the permission of the Senate to have incorporated in Hansard. [More…]
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In the face of that, how can any honourable senator vote today for clause 1 1 of this Bill, which seeks to omit sub-section ( 1 ) of the Act and to substitute the following subclause: [More…]
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How can any honourable senator in this chamber vote today for this Bill in its present substance when all the unchallenged evidence is that that is unconstitutional? [More…]
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On the one hand we applaud the United Nations, particularly when the Third World is voting, so that we can vote with its member countries. [More…]
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Are we going to vote for such a Bill without further investigation? [More…]
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Realising that the Committee consists of 6 members of the Senate- three from each side of the chamber- and noting the tenor of the debate today, one wonders what good purpose would be served by referring this matter to the Committee because there certainly would not be a unanimous vote on the Committee. [More…]
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As a matter of courtesy on the one hand and not having access to Party rooms on the other, I like to listen to the debates so that I know what is the position and then vote in accordance with my thinking as an Independent. [More…]
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I shall not quote everything that I intended to quote because I would like the Senate to vote on this legislation. [More…]
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Whilst I was door knocking there the people told me they were all going to vote for Mr Newman. [More…]
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I asked the people what made them so certain that they were going to vote Liberal and they told me that they were worried about their jobs. [More…]
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There is bitterness amongst traditional Labor voters. [More…]
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If there is one issue that is keeping support so low, if there is one issue that took Labor’s vote down to 38 per cent in Bass it is the issue of the right to work, the issue of unemployment and the fact that Australians feel cheated. [More…]
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At present, according to the polls, it holds 37 or 38 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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When he is preselected we will bring him in too, because with 57 per cent of the formal vote we can win 4 seats in New South Wales. [More…]
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I would go as far as to say that not many of the people who want to buy their own homes are ever going to be game enough to vote again for this Government. [More…]
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As I have said, I would be surprised if even one of the would-be home owners in this country were to vote for the Labor Party at the next election. [More…]
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I think that the young people who voted for the Labor Party in 1 972 have been gypped a bit by the Government. [More…]
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I know that the Government has said that the vote for medical research will go up next year; but have honourable senators ever thought of anything so serious, so damaging or so stupid? [More…]
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Probably they will go overseas and find jobs elsewhere.- If the Government increases this vote next year, as it says, how will it get those researchers back? [More…]
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The vote for the anti-smoking campaign has been reduced from $292,000 to $75,000. [More…]
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I realise that that figure is disputed; nevertheless, on a vote catching campaign the Leader of the Opposition said that he would reduce taxation by another $ 1,000m. [More…]
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I think this Government realises that there are very few votes in country areas, so I would sum it up by saying ‘no vote, no value’. [More…]
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When his nomination was rejected by a vote of the Queensland Parliament a week ago today, the Labor Party again decided unanimously to put forward the name of only one candidate. [More…]
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In fairness to the Liberal Party, let me say that in the vote in Queensland today, when this decision was thrust upon the Senate, every Liberal Minister in the Cabinet voted against the appointment of this person. [More…]
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The honourable member for Murrumba- I forget his name; it is not important- indicated during the debate on the 18-year-old vote that I tickled the peter when I was treasurer of the referees association. [More…]
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The Senate might recall that in the public arena certain retired senior officers have voiced the opinion that while in some cases the cadet corps were suitable for youth training, they did not think that the money should come from the defence vote. [More…]
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Once the vote was secured, and the road to socialism lay open, the riot and the strike ceased to be the only weapons, and could be seen for what they were: methods socially destructive by their very nature, and therefore anti-socialist. [More…]
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Senator Jessop referred to the abysmal degradation of the Australian Broadcasting Commission which will be asking us to vote over $ 100m for its support. [More…]
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I suggest that the purposes of this debate will best be served if that composite motion were voted on or agreed upon now. [More…]
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I believe that we should have either a vote or a consensus of the Senate that the matter should be considered in the Committee of the Whole forthwith. [More…]
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I went along with the Bill in June, expressing only my opposition but not putting the matter to a vote, but when the Government gets to the stage of taxing waterfront labour in the four or five Tasmanian ports at rates ranging from $4 to $5 per man hour and we realise that the money goes into the cost of Tasmanian exports and imports, I am bound, unless I am sent here to misrepresent Tasmanian exporters and importers, to cast my vote against this Bill. [More…]
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That would be crippling to all industry and does not reflect a responsible attitude for any Party to adopt, even if it had no capacity in this chamber to cast an effective vote. [More…]
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There is some difficulty facing individuals who formerly were Labor voters in trying to understand the plea of the Prime Minister (Mr Whitlam) at the last election when he said: ‘Give us a chance ‘. [More…]
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There are individuals, labourers, whom I see regularly who thought that a vote for Labor would bring about a just society. [More…]
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I was under the impression that Senator Steele Hall was speaking on the way that he intended to vote. [More…]
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I was about to say when I was interrupted that apparently the new expert would give the right to a fragment of a party in the lower House, by withdrawing 4 or 5 votes to a junta or a party, to cross the benches today and to establish a new party and so constitutionally cause the Government to go to the people. [More…]
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That is to say, if the Government so misbehaves as to cause on the floor of the House a disintegration of its own support, then even on a procedural vote, according to the practice, if it fails by one vote to get a judgment of the House on a mere matter of procedure- which may be completely irrelevant to confidence, as in the Beasley case in 1 930- it is proper to have an election. [More…]
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Without any Cabinet vote, the Prime Minister took it unto himself to nominate his 27 myrmidons for new stalls. [More…]
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I venture the opinion that in respect of many matters that come before the Parliament if members were not forced to vote with the machine many would vote in a different way. [More…]
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You would be amazed, Mr Deputy President, if I told you the number of people on both sides of the House who have come to me in recent weeks and said that they wholeheartedly agreed with what I said but they had to vote in the way they did. [More…]
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He told a Brisbane rally the Government would get its answer about whether Supply would pass ‘on the day or about the day in which there is in fact a vote in the Senate’. [More…]
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The Smith regime, representing about 280,000 Europeans of a total population of 6 million, holds power because the African population has no effective vote. [More…]
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If that criticism is sincere and if the Opposition is not being just hypocritical, why does it not vote against these Bills? [More…]
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Why does the Opposition denounce the Bills yet at the beginning of the debate say that although it does not support them it will vote for them? [More…]
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Why does not the Opposition vote against these Bills? [More…]
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The Opposition would be respected far more in the community, I suggest, if it exercised the powers that it asserts in relation to these 3 Bills in accordance with its attitude to the Bills than if it waited until a vote was taken on 2 subsequent Bills and then purely for political purposes took a certain step. [More…]
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If this tax is so evil and if members of the Opposition were not completely hypocritical in their speeches, why do they not either make a request under section 53 of the Constitution or assert the right that they claim they have and vote against the Bills? [More…]
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I was very amused and highly surprised to hear Senator Everett, who just resumed his seat after speaking in support of the Government, challenge the Opposition to vote against the measures. [More…]
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The fact of the matter is that the Opposition has indicated that it is not going to vote against these measures although it certainly is opposed to them. [More…]
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The fact that it will not vote against them does not indicate in any way that we are in favour of them. [More…]
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If we were to take the view that we would vote against a particular tax because we did not like it, that in itself would throw open the whole question of other taxation measures which the Government is introducing and to which we may be equally opposed. [More…]
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We will not vote against the Bills. [More…]
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While the speakers said they were opposed to the legislation, obviously they will not vote against it. [More…]
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The vote throughout the State in favour of the Government was about 47 per cent and on a preferred basis it was less than 50 per cent. [More…]
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He did not go on to tell the Senate what a terrible rebuke the Liberal Party suffered in relation to its percentage vote at the hands of the electors. [More…]
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He did not tell us that the votes the Party lost in the main went to the very virile Party of his opponent in South Australia, Senator Hall. [More…]
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The Opposition won 2 seats but overall it did not get the vote and it did not become the government. [More…]
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When Mr Playford was Premier he did not get the vote but because of the gerrymander he always got the government, at least until the present Premier became Premier of South Australia and was able to bring some justice into the electoral system. [More…]
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He is there because he may be a vote catcher. [More…]
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The Opposition thought it had a vote catcher. [More…]
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All that talk of the donkey vote is pure nonsense. [More…]
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Has anyone ever heard of a Communist recording a donkey vote? [More…]
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The Communist vote is the most highly organised vote in the world, particularly in Australia. [More…]
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1 know from friends of mine in the ALP that the Communist Party vote in Moreton on that particular occasion was highly organised. [More…]
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Mr Aikens continued: 1 know from friends of mine in the ALP that the Communist Party vote in Moreton on that particular occasion was highly organised. [More…]
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Does anyone believe that the people of Queensland would vote for a man who, if elected to the Canberra Parliament, is pledged to vote in favour of homosexual marriages? [More…]
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Does anyone think that the majority of the people of Queensland would vote for a man who, in the Canberra Parliament, would support homosexual copulation? [More…]
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Does anyone think that the people of Queensland would vote for a man who has pledged his support for legalised incest? [More…]
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Would they vote for a man who would support legislation enabling brother to marry brother or father to marry son? [More…]
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Only half the number that were there, incidentally- that day, and he let it be known that there was $1,000 in it for everyone at the college who would vote for him. [More…]
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You can have my vote for $1,000’. [More…]
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It is the Government’s objective that every dollar which is spent in the Defence vote is used to the utmost benefit of Australia’s defence preparedness and it was on this basis the Government’s decision was made. [More…]
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The honourable senator will be aware that on 22 November 1974 the 29th U.N. General Assembly adopted Resolution 3237 by a vote of 95 to 17 with 19 countries (including Australia) abstaining; and that this Resolution gave the PLO the right to participate as an observer in the sessions and work of the General Assembly, all conferences convened under its auspices and all international conferences convened under the auspices of the United Nations. [More…]
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I indicate that the Opposition will vote against these Bills. [More…]
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It ought to be recalled that the Labor Party came to office in 1972 on 49.6 per cent of the first preference vote and that it retained power in May 1974 after the double dissolution of Parliament with 49.3 per cent of the first preference vote. [More…]
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The fact that a party with approximately 50 per cent of the first preference vote is able to achieve office with a working majority at an election held on the present boundaries shows that there is no basis for claiming that the electoral system is either unfair, unbalanced or biased in any party’s favour. [More…]
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If one looks at the electoral figures since 1949 in respect of the nation-wide vote, apart from the oddity of 1954, one concludes that the party which obtained around 50 per cent of the vote comes to government. [More…]
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No doubt before this debate is concluded we will be lectured about the morality of one vote one value or the morality of electoral reform. [More…]
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Optional preference, drawing for positions on ballot papers and all these matters seem to be gripping the imagination of younger voters. [More…]
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Obviously, we are not going to give the swamp wallabies a vote. [More…]
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The plain fact of the matter is that if you ask anybody in the street whether he agrees with the principle of one vote one value you will find that the impression has been conjured up in the minds of the people that this principle means a sort of crushing of the rural vote by those with urban thoughts. [More…]
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Do those people ever realise that the political views or the composition of the urban voters are divided fairly evenly? [More…]
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Of course, I know that the argument of the Australian Labor Party is that it believes in the so-called democratic principle of one vote one value. [More…]
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If that principle of one vote one value is to be applied, apparently only that is taken into consideration and we forget about the distance, communications, community of interest and so forth, all for the one objective of achieving one vote one value. [More…]
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But where is the one vote one value principle in the Federal Conference of the Labor Party? [More…]
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Of course, the members of the ALP do not practise that principle because they know very well that if ever the Federal Executive of the ALP was made up in accordance with the principle of one vote one value and on a population basis there would be no Federal organisation as we know it today. [More…]
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I suppose that is indicative of the moral political climate which has deteriorated so rapidly in Australia over the last few months to the point where two State Premiers are thumbing their noses at the Constitution and disfranchising voters through the appointments they have made to the Senate. [More…]
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It seems to me rather sad that people of our ages come here and legislate to give the vote to 18- year-olds and then set them that sort of example, with glib talk about democracy and morals and about people’s involvement in the government of this country. [More…]
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These Bills endeavour to put value back into people’s votes. [More…]
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It seems rather banal now to talk about democracy and what has happened to it, but when people are appointed to the Senate at the whim of a State Premier rather than by means of the votes of the people in that State being followed it makes democracy look rather sick. [More…]
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I know it is like talking to a brick wall, and that what I say here unfortunately is not going to change one vote on the other side. [More…]
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The seat of Diamond Valley has 86 000 votes and the seat of Wimmera has 49 000 votes, a difference of 43 per cent, and Wimmera is not all that far from civilisation. [More…]
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In Victoria there are seats like Burke, which have 83 000 votes, and seats like Mallee, which have 49 500 votes, a difference of 41 per cent. [More…]
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There are seats like Holt with 80 000 votes and Wannon with 53 000 votes, a difference of 34 per cent; La Trobe with 86 000 votes and Indi with 54 000 votes, a difference of 33 per cent; Bruce with 77 000 votes and Melbourne Ports with 55 000 votes, a difference of 29 per cent. [More…]
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None of those places are so far from civilisation that they need those additional votes. [More…]
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They are all voters, and as such they are all entitled to proper representation, as are the people in Wimmera, where the number of voters has increased by 2900, in Mallee where it has increased by 440, in Wannon where it has increased by 5400 and in Indi where it has increased by 7900. [More…]
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I believe that the voters have a lot more common sense and know a lot more about the ways of the world than my friends in the Opposition give them credit for. [More…]
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They have a great feeling for fairness, and although people sneer at the principle of one vote one value, I believe that the ordinary people of this country are closer to understanding the principle of a fair go for everybody than are their representatives. [More…]
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That idea has been canvassed around this country for a long time, and the Government insists that a vast number of people in Australia do not believe that their votes should be of less value, should be worth half or one-third or one-fifth of votes in other electorates. [More…]
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The 18-year olds to whom we gave the vote will turn around and say: ‘You gave us the vote after a great deal of push and shove. [More…]
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As the Leader of the Opposition (Senator Withers) said in his opening address in this debate, the evidence of the most recent elections in this country, percentage-wise and seat-wise, has suggested on 2 occasions in the last 3 years that a vote of slightly less than 50 per cent has produced a government in power with slightly more than 50 per cent of the seats. [More…]
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Party is concerned with arranging for votes for sheep and goats. [More…]
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Of course, that may be the view of honourable senators opposite, it may be the view of Mr Daly and it may be attractive to his particular type of sense of humour, but the facts are that this redistribution which Mr Daly promotes with such a measure of urgency month after month is a redistribution which would establish in the Australian scene a necessity for a Liberal-National Country Party coalition to achieve 55 per cent of the votes in order to attain government and would enable the Labor Party to achieve government with some 45 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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The Labor Party talks about one vote one value and about parity between electors. [More…]
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Electorally, the changes recommended in the Bills- one man one vote and the full parity that have been suggested by the Government- would not be in the best interests of the electoral conditions in this country. [More…]
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For those reasons I will have no hesitation in recording my vote in opposition to the legislation. [More…]
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I thought her remarks were appropriate, because we have had put forward by the Australian Labor Party for some years this general proposition, which is an attractive comment, whatever it may mean, of one vote one value. [More…]
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When that story was run- I think Mr Daly had some comments on it- it blew out the door altogether the theory of one vote one value. [More…]
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The Labor Party did not want to hear of one vote one value. [More…]
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I know that he believes in this supposed principle of one vote one value, but undoubtedly he is a man who would throw that principle out of the door in favour of the principle related to the number of people in an electorate at any one time. [More…]
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That is one of the basic difficulties that is experienced when one attempts to equate the numbers of voters in electorates and to bring in this principle of one vote one value- whatever it might mean. [More…]
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What has happened when Labor, during its term of government, has decided to give a free vote and a fully elected council in a particular area? [More…]
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It is a terrible thing to come into a chamber such as this Senate and hear men pronouncing the theory of one vote one value and demanding that this proposition should be applied throughout Australia when those same men, who have complete control over the Northern Territory, introduce a disparity of about 50 per cent in electorates in the Northern Territory. [More…]
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I think the honourable senator who interrupted is one man who would stand up in this Parliament and say: ‘We believe in one vote, one value’. [More…]
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He knows that even the Aborigines in Australia do not receive adequate representation if their circumstances are applied to a one vote, one value situation and compared with people such as myself or Senator Keeffe who live in metropolitan Australia. [More…]
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I do not know whether Senator Keeffe would be upstanding and say that of course they do and that there ought to be one vote for an Aborigine in the middle of Arnhem Land and one vote for a person in the middle of Bourke Street, Melbourne. [More…]
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I do not know what it is they believe in when they say one vote, one value. [More…]
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I am opposed to this type of Bill which while attempting to reduce the variation in the quota does not tie in with Labor’s stated philosophy of one vote, one value. [More…]
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I reiterate that when Labor is faced with the reality it cannot take into account the number of voters in any area. [More…]
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They know that every federal division in Australia, with one or two exceptions, needs to have its boundaries altered in order to get somewhere near the one vote one value principle. [More…]
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The allegation that has been made by members of the Opposition that the Opposition will need 55 per cent of the vote to win office is a straight-out, blatant lie. [More…]
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First of all there was a block vote objection to the declaration by parliamentarians of their assets. [More…]
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There is nothing to stop them from going around among the electors and telling them the way in which they want their supporters to vote. [More…]
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The Australian Labor Party supporters in the main would be quite happy about casting one vote for the candidate for whom they wanted to vote and with not being compelled to have to vote for every lunatic fringe candidate who enters into the election campaign. [More…]
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Senator Webster has claimed that the Labor Party would need only 45 per cent of the vote under the proposed boundaries and that the Liberal Party and the splinter group attached to it would need 55 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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But if it were a fact- it is not a fact- how can he justify the right of the Country Party to be able to hold power in a State Government for 3 years with 19 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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But it is again significant to note that even though the Opposition Party in the State House, which is the Labor Party, has 1 1 members- there are a couple of rag-tags amongst the Independents who are associated with and, of course, support the Liberal Party all the time- as a result of an electoral shift the Premier of great honour whom I mentioned a few moments ago and who was able to get only around 28 per cent or 29 per cent of the votes was still the leader of the majority party. [More…]
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But our dishonest political opponents thieve votes, thieve power and thieve office by manipulating the electors. [More…]
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Its members meekly went down on their knees and said: ‘We accept the decision of the people which is based on 29 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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Nobody on this side of politics will challenge you because you are able, with your handful of votes, to dominate us in this Parliament.’ [More…]
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This power hungry man, this Premier who remains in power on a small percentage handful of the votes, is in the situation in which he is able to thumb his nose at authority, thumb his nose at convention, thumb his nose at the Constitution and thumb his nose at the law. [More…]
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The proper and, I believe, the appropriate and perhaps the normal way to deal with a redistribution proposal is to put it before a freely elected House, such as the Senate is, and to take a vote upon it. [More…]
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The Electoral Act provides that if that situation occurs then the Commissioners may be asked to take account of that vote, to take account of the views that were expressed, to take account of the reflection of opinion that has been put forward in the Senate. [More…]
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It is true that there are some great differences between the number of voters in each area. [More…]
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In the main, Darwin has a white population, of which the vast majority would be enrolled to vote. [More…]
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He also knows that when this matter was before this Parliament distribution was based on population and not on voters. [More…]
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We have heard examples, this afternoon of a man who gets no more than 20 per cent of the vote in an entire State- one out of five votes- and yet becomes the Premier of that State because he draws the map in such a way as to ensure he becomes the Premier. [More…]
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The House was governed by 14 members who had less than 9 per cent of the total State vote. [More…]
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He is cowed by a man who gets one vote out of five under the worst gerrymander that exists. [More…]
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In Victoria we have got a Liberal Party Government under the control of one fellow by the name of Hamer, who makes it happen, who leads a Party which received 44.4 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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Almost two out of every three people who vote for the Labor Party are disenfranchised under the Victorian system of democracy. [More…]
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The time when a person can become the Premier of a State of this Commonwealth by polling only one vote out of every five should be gone forever. [More…]
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As a result it took nearly 58 per cent of the vote to get 50 per cent of the seats. [More…]
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The Minister, who is the Leader of the House, belongs to a party which likes to call for one vote one value. [More…]
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This is the party that talks one vote one value. [More…]
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Is it not a fact that the optional preferential voting system is a device to wreck the system of one vote one value and that in fact under such a system minority votes need not have one value? [More…]
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Is it not a fact that under such a system majority party votes shall always have one value and shall always be counted, but minority votes will be counted or not, depending upon the whim of the particular elector who marks or does not mark the ballot paper. [More…]
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So we have, incredibly, a party which gets on its high horse and talks about one vote one value and stands for optional preferential voting. [More…]
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The independents who sit in this House would not be here today if there were optional preferential voting because such a system would destroy the ability of voters to transfer preferences. [More…]
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Did I not hear Labor speakers, including Senator Poyser, say that we ought to adopt- and this is Labor policy- the device of being represented by population, not by voters. [More…]
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Is that not Labor’s policy- representation by population and not by voters- or did Senator Poyser, the Labor Party Whip, not state Labor policy? [More…]
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Let me state here and now that if that is so the Labor Party would destroy any chance of one vote one value. [More…]
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Coincidentally, in Mr Daly’s electorate, there would be 30 000 or so non-voters. [More…]
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Therefore, say 20 000 voters could elect Mr Daly in his seat, while 80 000 voters would be needed to elect Mr Cadman for the seat of Mitchell. [More…]
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One vote in Mr Daly’s electorate would have the value of 4 votes in Mr Cadman ‘s electorate. [More…]
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Does any Labor senator deny that Mr Daly, the man who is supposed to be introducing this reform, has enjoyed one vote two values over many years? [More…]
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Is it not strange that members of the Labor Party who stand on their feet and criticise country electorates for their vastness and the relative smallness of the vote there, are absolutely silent about inner city electorates around Australia, where the population decline is so rapid all the time that after a few years the Labor sitting members do not have one vote one value but have one vote two values- and have this all the time. [More…]
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The result will be that an enormous advantage will be given to the sitting member in those seats which have a rapid decline in voters. [More…]
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Yet honourable senators opposite have got up, talked about gerrymanders and said that we have to fix them and restore the principle of one vote one value. [More…]
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But I say that under our regime there was never any question but that a party which got a majority of the votes would get a majority of the seats. [More…]
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This system says to minority parties: ‘We are going to destroy you; we are going to emasculate the value of your vote; we are not going to have one vote one value- it will be one vote for the majority party but a fraction of a vote for the minority parties’. [More…]
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This is a party whose members get up with this humbug, citing Scripture for their purpose and talking about one vote one value. [More…]
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He should have reminded us that the Supreme Court of America upheld that one vote one value could include at least a 15 per cent tolerance either way. [More…]
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This was a major and enduring judgment on what is meant by one vote one value. [More…]
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I take it that the Labor Party is suggesting that in each State the seats should be worked out on population, not on number of voters. [More…]
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I repeat that I do not know of anything with greater potential for distortion of the vote than the suggestion that a State should be divided into a number of seats based on average population rather than on an average number of voters. [More…]
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Quite clearly some electorates would have 5 times as many voters as other electorates. [More…]
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Yet members of the Labor Party say that they believe in one vote one value. [More…]
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The real test of one vote one value is this: In an election did a majority of voters elect a majority of members? [More…]
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It says: ‘We will right it and bring in one vote one value’. [More…]
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I have demonstrated step by step that the Labor Party’s electoral laws would corrupt the system, destroy the democratic vote and entrench itself in power. [More…]
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It would destroy one vote one value. [More…]
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In a very short time the number of voters declines to well below the quota. [More…]
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The whole revelation of this gerrymander in Labor’s electoral laws lies behind Labor’s knowledge that the number of voters in inner city seats declines very rapidly over a short period. [More…]
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As a result Labor will get one vote two values. [More…]
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Over the years the Distribution Commissioners have agreed that the right idea in seats with a declining population is to put the number of voters well above the quota or median figure when the seats are drawn. [More…]
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For the next 3 years the number of voters is probably 20 000 below the quota. [More…]
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They are only fractionally, for a point of time, at one vote one value. [More…]
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Only at one point of time are they one vote one value. [More…]
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It is quite impossible at any point of time to have at an election a situation in which each seat has one vote one value. [More…]
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The Commissioners have not drawn the boundaries on the principle of one vote one value. [More…]
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The principle of one vote one value is not contained in any of the 5 plans before the Parliament at the moment. [More…]
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I repeat that the Government hopes to ensure that at an election the 127 seats will be so distributed that a majority of votes gives it a majority of seats. [More…]
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The Government then brings forward an electoral package and, on its own say-so, will bring in optional preferential voting which destroys the principle of one vote one value, which wipes out the minorities, which fails to ensure the complete transfer of the preferential system. [More…]
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It will so penalise the Independents that it will make it impossible for those without wealth to stand for Parliament- and this as a government which talks about one vote one value. [More…]
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How can you have one vote one value when you work out an electoral system based on the principle of one head of population one value? [More…]
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I have been horrified to live in a State which until 1965 was under the control of a State Labor government which corruptly denied a vote to the people, which denied postal votes, and which drew boundaries in such a way that those honourable senators who know Goulburn, for example, will know that the State Labor Government drew on a map a shape like a cow’s teat down to Captain’s Flat to take in that area. [More…]
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He stands for boundaries which will help to give enormous value to the inner city seats held by the Labor Party, to the inner city seats chock-a-block with non-voters. [More…]
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If one looks at the effect of the value of a vote in the country and compares it with the value of a vote in the city, one finds the simple fact is that in the last election one country vote was equal to 1 . [More…]
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1 city votes. [More…]
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In Mr Daly’s seat, and in seats like that, one Labor vote came dangerously close to equalling 2 Liberal votes elsewhere. [More…]
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But they forget that the principle of one vote one value registered is not only in the ballot box but also in the ability of the country member of parliament to service his electorate, to be able to meet volunary organisations, to get around his electorate and to talk to people and to help them. [More…]
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The simple fact is that in seats like Kalgoorlie, Darling, Riverina, Eden-Monaro- all the large seats- one vote one value ought to be measured also in the equality of service that a member of parliament can give and the equality of contact that he can make. [More…]
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Honourable senators opposite cannot get away with an optional preferential voting system because that is cheating and because a 10 per cent quota will help the Labor Party enormously and be a great hindrance to those many electorates where there is not that concentration of non-voters, not that concentration and distribution. [More…]
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Therefore I noted with a great deal of interest that Senator Carrick said that optional preferential voting was a device designed to wreck the one vote one value system. [More…]
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I often wonder how Senator Carrick and his colleagues, including Senator Davidson from South Australia who spoke at such length about the reasons why there should not be an equality of representation, would get on if they knocked on the doors of the houses in the city of Adelaide and said to the people: ‘I have come to tell you why you should have a lower value in your vote than country people should have’. [More…]
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I cannot for the life of me see how we can say to a city person: ‘You shall have a devalued vote in relation to whether there will be a certain type of national health scheme. [More…]
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You will have a smaller vote than a person who lives in a country area’. [More…]
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It is not simply the individual matters to which members of parliament address themselves which relate to the value of the vote of a person who puts a member in parliament. [More…]
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It more or less put a column of seats on the western border- I think it involved ten or twelve seats- that had no more than 4000 voters in each. [More…]
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In the coastal areas, where the people were voting for the same type of political party as is to be found in the Opposition in this chamber, the seats ran to about 12 000 voters in many cases. [More…]
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The Labor Party held those seats over a period of time because they were western seats and in those days Labor received a strong vote in the western area. [More…]
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It is all very nice for the people who live in cities to say that we must have the principle of one vote one value. [More…]
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There is no way that the principle of one vote one value can be maintained continually. [More…]
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It is very nice for the people in the bigger cities to say that they want to see the implementation of the principle of one vote, one value. [More…]
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It could well be on the basis that Labor Party senators are speaking, that is, that we must have the principle of one vote one value, that the representation of those areas with such valuable industries could be diminished because their voice in this Parliament would be so small that they could well be neglected by the government of the day to a very great extent. [More…]
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So why is there not a row kicked up about those honourable senators representing more people than we do if Government senators really believe in this principle of one vote one value. [More…]
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Let us remember this point also: This chamber was established in this way because of the fear of the densely populated States that they would be out-voted by the more densely populated States. [More…]
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The argument about one man, one vote, must strike home to those honourable senators who believe in that principle but who come from the less populated States. [More…]
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The argument put forward by Government speakers who have taken part in the debate to justify the principle of one man, one vote, is just a lot of nonsense. [More…]
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I notice that Senator Wood declined Senator Hall’s invitation to stand up and tell his radio listeners whether he was willing to doorknock in the city of Brisbane and tell his electors there that their vote should be less valuable than that of people who live in Port Augusta or the Riverina or Horsham or Stawell. [More…]
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The reason that anomaly appeals to Sir Charles Court is, I suggest, that the electors in the Pilbara electorate have a much greater propensity to vote for the Australian Labor Party than the electors of the other 2 seats. [More…]
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Senator Carrick said that it should be determined by the number of electors and that those migrant groups- the ethnic minorities which tend to be heavily concentrated in Sydney and Melbourne- should not be counted for purposes of determining electoral boundaries because they are not naturalised citizens and do not have a vote. [More…]
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It is true that people did vote against the proposition. [More…]
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But people cast their votes in a number of confusing circumstances. [More…]
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We invite them to support the basic democratic principles of one vote, one value. [More…]
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There may be some alteration to the order in that the Franklin vote could be quite surprising, and the Liberal Party could get more than it will in Denison. [More…]
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Following the 1974 election the number of votes needed by the Opposition to capture Wilmot was only 3 per cent. [More…]
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Only 3 per cent of the people had to change their vote for there to be a change of member. [More…]
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At the by-election in Bass Labor got about 37 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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It is obvious that if an election were held tomorrow in Bass the Labor Party would get fewer votes than it did then. [More…]
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The result of the redistribution, no matter how it has been brought about, would be that some of the Labor vote in Franklin would be going to Denison. [More…]
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He said that the results of past elections have generally led to the party which recorded 50 per cent of the vote winning government. [More…]
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It is true that in 1954 the Labor Party gained 50.1 per cent of the votes but did not gain government. [More…]
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In 1961 the Labor Party gained 46.7 per cent of the votes and won 62 seats in the House of Representatives. [More…]
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The Liberal and Country Parties gained 40.9 per cent of the votes and also won 62 seats in the House of Representatives. [More…]
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They retained government because the Labor Party representative of the Northern Territory did not have a vote. [More…]
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They retained government by that very narrow margin and with 6 per cent less of the vote than the [More…]
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The Labor Party won 59 seats with 46.95 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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The Liberal and Country Parties won 66 seats with 43.3 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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Members of the Opposition sit here day after day and regurgitate stuff about the desirability that country electorates be small and city electorates be large and that the vote of an elector in the cities of Australia should be less valuable than the vote of a country elector. [More…]
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-I do not want to enter into the mechanics of the problems, but the simple fact remains that, looking at the situation Australia-wide, it is, of course, desirable that an Australian citizen in a city, particularly one in an inner suburb of one of the large cities, should be able to say that his vote is of approximately the same value as the vote of a citizen in a country electorate. [More…]
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We accept that if a person lives in the city that person’s vote is worth half the value of the vote of a man who lives in an electorate like Wimmera. [More…]
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We say to every Australian who lives in a city that his or her vote on questions such as health and welfare, taxation and so on is worth half the value of a vote of a person who lives in the country. ‘ [More…]
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The Government introduces these electoral Bills with the catch cry of one vote one value. [More…]
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I submit that the slogan ‘One vote, one value’ has little meaning, apart from the fact that it is a catchcry. [More…]
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Let us take the word ‘vote’. [More…]
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It cites as examples of that certain Aborigines who do not turn up to vote, certain migrants who are not registered yet, prisoners in gaol, children, people who are not on the electoral roll, and I presume people who vote informally. [More…]
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For instance, would the Government contend that because a National Country Party candidate defeated a Labor Party candidate the National Country Party member would not represent all the people who voted Labor? [More…]
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Let us consider the value side of the vote. [More…]
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Apart from the elector’s ability to change his vote, the main value in a person’s vote is his ability to contact his member of Parliament. [More…]
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I submit that the ability to communicate with your representative in Parliament is the main value of your vote, and I submit that it is a lot easier to contact your member of Parliament in a city than it is in the country. [More…]
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On the matter of the value of the vote, let us assume for a moment that Labor gets this legislation passed and that all our votes are equal. [More…]
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In that situation, what would be the value of the vote of the person in the country? [More…]
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With Sydney and Melbourne running the country, his vote would not be equal; it would be valueless. [More…]
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My loudest interjector, the honourable senator from Victoria, told us that the electoral system in the Northern Territory was his ideal because it had equal numbers of people in the electorates, whether they could vote or not. [More…]
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If there was an electorate with, say, 100 people and 3 candidates for election, and the first candidate got 35 votes, the second candidate 33 votes and the third candidate 32 votes, on first past the post or optional preferences voting the first candidate would be elected with 35 votes. [More…]
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It is unfair and unrealistic and it makes a mockery out of one vote, one value. [More…]
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On the point of order, Mr President, I should like to say that my point does have a lot to do with one vote, one value. [More…]
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You have to have a reason for a postal vote and that is not one of them. [More…]
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As the Bills have been brought in this way and a vote forced upon us, then so be it. [More…]
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Senator Withers also mentioned that the results of past elections have generally led to the party which recorded 50 per cent of the vote winning government. [More…]
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1 per cent of the votes, yet did not gain government. [More…]
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In 1961 the Australian Labor Party gained 46.76 per cent of the votes and won 62 seats in the House of Representatives. [More…]
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The Liberal-Country parties also won 62 seats at that election, yet their total vote was only 40.91 per cent. [More…]
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In that year the Australian Labor Party won 59 seats with 46.95 per cent of the votes. [More…]
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However, the Liberal-Country parties were able to secure 66 seats with 44.3 per cent of the votes. [More…]
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The fact is that the National Country Party, which is the tail wagging the dog in the coalition, has said, as Mr Anthony said before he even examined what the redistribution proposals were: ‘We are going to vote against them to a man’. [More…]
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I have nothing more to say except to suggest that the question be put to the vote, knowing full well that the vote will be a biased one. [More…]
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It is interesting that, from listening to the tone of almost every second debate that has taken place in this chamber and from listening to the offerings of the members of the Opposition, one could gain the very firm impression that the Opposition proposed to vote against the measure concerned; yet the Opposition has stopped just short of that in this debate, as it has in a number of other debates in the past. [More…]
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As I have said, one could expect from the tone of the debates that the Opposition was going to vote against the measures concerned. [More…]
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I do not think that it will vote against this measure. [More…]
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I do not think that it will be prepared to vote against this measure, which in fact deals with the sensitive area of enabling the Government to get on with its defence program. [More…]
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the member presiding has a deliberate vote and, in the event of an equality of votes, also has a casting vote. [More…]
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Does he further recall that his then leader in the Senate, the former Senator Murphy, said on 26 August 1970 that the Australian Labor Party would vote against the Budget and added, ‘my Party has decided to do whatever it can to drive this Government from office’? [More…]
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Does the Leader of the Government in the Senate further recall that on 4 November 1970, 23 Labor senators voted against the third reading of an Appropriation Bill? [More…]
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Finally, how does the Leader of the Government in the Senate reconcile those past statements and actions with the cowardly attempts by the Government to avoid a proper election if the present appropriations are voted against? [More…]
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This, however, so far from being a good cause for its recall, may constitute its greatest claim to reputation, and one of the factors which strengthens the hand of a Government fresh from victory at the polls is that it may look forward to a period or office in which its policy may be dictated by convictions and not by the mere necessity for vote catching. [More…]
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My question is directed to the Minister for Labor and Immigration and relates to Press reports in this morning’s Australian headed: ‘Wilenski staff in strike vote over outsiders’. [More…]
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Of course, those who have ever cast a vote for Labor must acknowledge that that is what they voted for. [More…]
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He has forgotten- conveniently forgotten- that on 12 June 1970, when referring to the States Receipts Duties (Administration) Bill, he declared his Party would vote against the legislation in both Houses of the Parliament in a bid to force an election. [More…]
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He was one of those who voted against the second reading of the Appropriation Bill in the House of Representatives. [More…]
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He should remember that on 4 November 1970, 23 Labor senators voted against the third reading of the Appropriation Bill in the Senate. [More…]
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He voted against the Appropriation Bills. [More…]
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The vote of the Leader of the Government in the Senate proves that he was prepared to force the Government to the people by a vote of the Senate. [More…]
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I hope that he was not offended because I did not vote for the motion to extend his speaking time. [More…]
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-This division is not made in a very pleasant fashion, because every time that Senator Young walks across this floor he takes a dead man’s vote with him in his pocket. [More…]
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Today this Opposition, which aspires to lead this country with the great principles about which it prates, won a vote in the Senate and was able to have its will to move an amendment to a loan Bill which is the lifeblood of many Australians. [More…]
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The Bill was defeated in that fashion only by the vote of a dead man which the Opposition has, contrary to the convention of this country. [More…]
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The fact that that replacement, in Senator Field, is not here does not remove the fact that the absence of that vote to the Party which should have it means that it cannot prevent the Opposition from doing what it did today. [More…]
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I am sorry that they have been so subjugated by the steamroller of the Party that they have been unable to vote according to their conscience. [More…]
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There is no way that a party can filch power from a populace which can vote every 3 years and which, on some occasions, is forced to vote at more frequent intervals. [More…]
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It has caused them to vote against their conscience. [More…]
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May I say that he has every reason to be worried because at the last State election I think that there was about 7 or 8 per cent difference between us in the vote. [More…]
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Given the rate of increase in votes for our party at each election I expect that Senator Young’s party will some day be in the minority position in that State. [More…]
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Early in the life of this Government the step was taken of enlarging the electorate in Australia, of enlarging the possibility of participation in political life by giving the vote to 1 8-year-old people. [More…]
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Later in the life of this Parliament we sought to give the right to vote in referendums to citizens of the Northern Territory and the Australian Capital Territory. [More…]
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When people of Australia who live in the Northern Territory and the Australian Capital Territory come to vote for senators for their Territories they would do well to remember that because on one side of politics there is a Party which is pledged to deny them the vote that every other Australian has. [More…]
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We debated whether Australians by and large should have equal voting rights and whether the vote of a man in the city should have as much value as the vote of a man who lives in the country. [More…]
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We had a debate in which it was revealed, and not denied, that the vote of a man living in a city electorate in Melbourne is worth half the value of the vote of a man living in a country electorate like Murray in the State of Victoria. [More…]
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There is so much at stake that the question merited an individual rather than a party vote. [More…]
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I should like to have thought that every person in this chamber voted in accordance with his unfettered thinking, as Senator Steele Hall, the Leader of the Liberal Movement- I gave him a plug, tooand I as an Independent voted on this matter. [More…]
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That means by vote- in the meantime. [More…]
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I point out that there is one essential difference between last year and the present time, and that is that the vote that the Opposition was able to muster yesterday was as a result of the death of a properly elected senator from Queensland. [More…]
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The Government this morning moved a vote of confidence in itself in the House of Representatives. [More…]
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As the Government did not permit the motion to be debated and immediately moved the gag, was the intent of the motion to commit publicly all votes of the Australian Labor Party to the course of action of the Prime Minister? [More…]
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Did the Government anticipate that the votes of members such as Dr Cairns and Mr Connor might not be in support of the course of action premeditated by the Prime Minister? [More…]
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If the Government has any confidence in its policies enunciated in those Bills, numbering I should think 1 5 or 1 7 by now, why has the Government not had the fortitude to send both Houses on a double dissolution to the democratic vote of the people to see whether any one of those policies is accepted by the people? [More…]
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The election will be fought on the obstruction of that right and, whether one likes Labor or not, it is an issue that is in the forefront of people’s minds and they will vote accordingly. [More…]
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We the undersigned support and vote for parties across the political spectrum but jointly believe the intended Senate action to be wrong stop [More…]
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-They say that they vote across the political spectrum. [More…]
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The Senate had to vote them out because section 83 makes it clear that for the ordinary expenditure the House of Representatives would decide the expenditure after the appropriation was made. [More…]
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We want to take a vote on this Legislation tonight and other honourable senators want to take part in the debate. [More…]
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If he is to uphold the vote which the people gave him in 1972 and 1974, the Prime Minister has a responsibility to stick in government as long as possible. [More…]
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But if, on the other hand, the people of Australia are dissatisfied with the course which this country is taking, are dissatisfied with the performance of this Government and show by their vote that they want a change and that they want permanency and honesty in government, why should those in power at the moment deny to the people the opportunity of making that decision? [More…]
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That was the result of the vote of the people electing a House of Representatives on electorate boundaries within a State and electing a Senate on the boundaries of the State. [More…]
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If the motion is defeated, we will vote against the Bills here and in the Senate. [More…]
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The justification for what the Labor Party then did was that it believed that there ought to be an election because the people would vote it in. [More…]
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It was correct because the people did vote into office the first Labor Party government which had an absolute majority in Victoria ‘s history. [More…]
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Those are the words of the Leader of the Opposition and we hope that when that election takes place, as it must, the verdict that the people give will be a verdict which gives either to the present Government a continuing mandate or to the Opposition Parties a mandate to ensure stability in government because when that election is fought the basic and fundamental issue upon which people must make their vote is what sort of government they want in this country. [More…]
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I have seen how they voted. [More…]
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They have voted the same way as the Centre Party and the Liberals voted for the enabling Act which made Hitler the Chancellor of Germany. [More…]
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I have seen them vote for motions to bring down a democratically elected government, while people on this side have argued that democracy should be preserved. [More…]
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I know that it is too much to expect a reversal of this vote today, but I expect that the matter will come up in the Senate next week and I hope that by then common sense will pervade the Opposition and that it will pass what it will pass inevitably in any case. [More…]
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Can the Minister give assurances to the Senate that the Australian delegation to that intergovernmental oceanographic conference will vote against any motion to expel Israel and against any motion to admit the Palestine Liberation Organisation to the conference? [More…]
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I thought Senator Baume might have been referring to the United Nations vote recently on Zionism. [More…]
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We voted in the way the honourable senator would want us to vote. [More…]
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I do not wish to sound difficult but, whilst I do not think the Opposition would object to a cognate debate on the issues raised within the 3 Bills at the second reading stage, I think the Opposition would like to vote on 3 separate motions at the second reading stage. [More…]
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At the last Senate elections on 18 May 1974, the informal vote, Australia wide, averaged 10.77 per cent. [More…]
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In New South Wales, where there were 73 candidates, the average informal vote was as high as 12.31 per cent. [More…]
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I incorporate in Hansard, for the benefit of honourable senators, a statement showing the percentage of informal votes recorded at the 1974 Senate Election in each State and in each electoral division throughout Australia. [More…]
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Of course there will always be a number of electors who fail to record a valid vote irrespective of the voting system. [More…]
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In other words, in a normal periodic Senate election, the voter, in order to cast a formal vote would be required to mark his ballot-paper consecutively from 1 to 5, in his order of preference for the candidates. [More…]
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In an election following a dissolution of the Senate, the voter would be required to indicate his order of preference for only ten candidates, be there 73 or 173 candidates on the ballot-paper. [More…]
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Let me stress, however, that any voter may choose, and this is where the option comes in, to indicate his further preferences for as many of the other candidates as he so desires, and should his preferences be required to determine the result they would be counted. [More…]
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Although far fewer candidates stand for House of Representatives elections than for Senate elections, the underlying principle that electors should not be compelled to vote for candidates for whom they have no preference still applies. [More…]
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The results of elections of the Australian Capital Territory Legislative Assembly, the Northern Territory Legislative Council and, more recently, the South Australian Legislative Council, indicate that a majority of electors voting under an optional preferential system will express preferences beyond the minimum number required to cast a formal vote. [More…]
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However, they are so recognised and it cannot be denied that a large number of the electors vote for the candidate representing the political party of their choice. [More…]
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We intend therefore by this Bill to assist the electors to knowingly record their votes, particularly in circumstances where they are uncertain of, or unable to ascertain, the political affiliations of the candidates appearing on the ballotpaper. [More…]
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Any argument that this proposed measure would disfranchise farmers or adherents of certain religious faiths, or generally inconvenience people who vote late in the day, is not persuasive. [More…]
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Postal vote facilities are available to electors who, for the various reasons specified in the Electoral Act- including religious reasons- will be precluded from voting at a polling booth on polling day. [More…]
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Absent voting facilities enable electors who are outside their Subdivision on polling day to vote at any other polling place in the State. [More…]
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These facilities, together with the availability of modern day private and public transport, are adequate to enable electors to conveniently record their votes, and effectively eliminates the need to keep the polling booths open until 8 p.m. [More…]
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Irrespective of what time polling booths are closed, there will always be people who vote at the last minute or attempt to vote too late. [More…]
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The so-called ‘Donkey Vote’ does exist and it does give advantage to the candidate who enjoys the top position on the ballot-paper. [More…]
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substituting ‘8 kilometres’ for ‘5 miles’ as the requisite qualifying distance in order to apply for a postal vote. [More…]
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providing redress for candidates against misleading propaganda distributed to voters. [More…]
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This Bill, the last in the series of Bills incorporating proposals previously contained in the Electoral Laws Amendment Bill, provides for- a speedier finalisation of election results, by introducing an earlier deadline for the return of postal votes and by providing for the return of postal votes direct to the relevant Returning Officer; prohibition on the listing of names of persons who apply for postal votes, except in certain specified circumstances; restriction of postal vote application forms to be used at an election or referendum to those specified by notice in the Gazette; postal voting facilities for prisoners who have retained their franchise entitlements; discretion to appoint a licensed or registered surveyor as a Distribution Commissioner in lieu of the Surveyor-General of the State concerned; and other minor amendments to the existing electoral law. [More…]
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There is a growing tendency for party workers to take advantage of the existing provision which enables a person to examine postal vote applications in the office of a Divisional Returning Officer so as to compile a list of electors who voted by post at the election and to use this list to forward postal vote applications to the persons concerned at the next election, without knowing whether those persons are still eligible to vote by post. [More…]
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It is also proposed to give the Chief Australian Electoral Officer power to vary the form of postal vote applications at each election, in order to prevent the dubious practice of stockpiling partially completed forms. [More…]
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Under this proposal the Chief Australian Electoral Officer will specify by a notice in the Gazette, the postal vote application forms which may be used at an election. [More…]
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It is proposed too that provision be made enabling a person who is serving a sentence of imprisonment to apply for a postal vote, provided that such person is still qualified for enrolment. [More…]
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2) with the help of the vote of Senator Marriott. [More…]
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Yet Senator Marriott, the person who voted to defer that Bill last week and who, according to Press statements, presumably will maintain that attitude of deferring the Appropriation Bills, is the very person who complains of delay in the completion of the work of restoring the bridge. [More…]
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Senator Marriott also voted in favour of the Bill passed by Parliament earlier this year which established the Tasman Bridge Restoration Commission. [More…]
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He would be far better occupied reconsidering his vote on Appropriation Bill (No. [More…]
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It is that type of person who, on the one hand, last week would vote against the Commission getting funds, because that is what the Opposition did in effect, and, on the other hand, this week would criticise the Australian Government for delay? [More…]
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He blamed the Senate vote last week for holding up the supply of funds for this restoration work. [More…]
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I would like to reiterate the point that I made by way of interjection whilst he was speaking, that is, that my vote last week was given in the way it was because I regard the removal of the dishonest Government that now occupies the treasury bench as being of great importance to this country. [More…]
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My vote last week was a vote against a dishonest Government. [More…]
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As the repository of the Senate’s honour, you ought not to permit that to be said with regard to a vote in the Senate. [More…]
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A senator is not entitled to reflect upon a vote of the Senate, and to say that it stoops to the lowest depth of infamy is derogatory and infinitely worse - ( Government supporters interjecting) [More…]
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I should say at the outset that the Opposition is totally opposed to the measure and proposes to vote against it at the second reading stage. [More…]
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This chamber is established on democratic vote and is not in the slightest degree to be compared with the hereditary basis of the House of Lords. [More…]
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Mr Neilson, the Premier of Tasmania, has been the victim of suggestion by Australian Labor Party propaganda to get out this letter addressed to Tasmanian senators suggesting that we leave over our resolution to delay the Appropriation Bills until there is a full consultation, not as there would be in England of only the House of Commons, but of the representatives in this Parliament, both the House of Representatives and the Senate, by an equally democratic vote of the people. [More…]
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The Opposition here is saying: ‘If we are wrong, let the people vote for our existence in this Parliament as well as for the existence of the Whitlam Government.’ [More…]
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Until he gets renewed confidence from the people by a vote on the people of both Houses he is a fake, he is a hypocrite, and he is not able to discharge the responsibilities of government. [More…]
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I recognise the desire of honourable senators on this side to refer to a vote which was obtained over a corpse. [More…]
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It is an irony for Senator Greenwood to talk about democracy being determined by the vote of the people. [More…]
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Democracy has been determined by the vote of the Australian people twice in the last 3 years. [More…]
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-The Third Committee of the United Nations General Assembly on 17 October adopted by a vote of 70 for, 29 against and 27 abstentions the draft resolution to have the General Assembly determine that Zionism is a form of racism and racial discrimination. [More…]
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Australia voted with the minority of 29 against. [More…]
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The Committee had earlier adopted 2 draft resolutions on the Decade for Action to Combat Racism and Racial Discrimination by votes of 126 for, 1 against and 2 abstentions, and 126 for, 1 against and 1 abstention. [More…]
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Australia on those occasions voted with the majority. [More…]
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The Australian representative on the Third Committee was instructed to oppose the draft resolution on Zionism, to make it clear in his explanation of vote that the Australian Government could not accept in any sense the determination contained in the draft resolution that Zionism is a form of racism and racial discrimination. [More…]
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That would not include a cut of 12 per cent in the administrative vote of the Department- some $l.7m- which of course would mean the Department would be unable to function. [More…]
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Yet it is only his stubborn refusal to give people their democratic right to vote that is preventing these Bills being passed without delay. [More…]
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It is of no use his using Caucus to impose a vote of confidence in the Lower House. [More…]
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Their views have been distorted by their counterparts in the States whose votes they carry across the chamber. [More…]
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every time that Senator Young walks across the floor he takes a dead man’s vote with him in his pocket . [More…]
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The Bill was defeated in that fashion only by the vote of a dead man which the Opposition has, contrary to the convention of this country. [More…]
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Of course, honourable senators opposite do not like to hear any reference from our side to a member of Parliament by saying: ‘Well, you are using a dead man ‘s vote to get what you want’. [More…]
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He is the famous senator from South Australia who was going to be courageous and not vote for the deferral of the Appropriation Bills. [More…]
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Yes, he said, he would refuse to vote to block Supply! [More…]
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It is a crisis about whether the people of Australia will be able to vote for a government and whether they will be able to deal at the ballot box with the situation that has arisen. [More…]
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We are one of the few democratic nations that in actual fact can hold its head up- or could until last week- and say: ‘We are a democracy and we believe that every person in this country has the right to vote on issues’. [More…]
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But how often are they expected to vote? [More…]
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Let’s give you the opportunity to vote. [More…]
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We have plenty of money to put out our “how to vote” pamphlets and all our literature that is necessary with an election’. [More…]
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Yet they took advantage of the place not being filled by a Labor Party person to win the vote in this House last week and to continue in this manner today. [More…]
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I remind members of the Opposition that they have a responsibility to each and every person, irrespective of whether they voted for them or not- after today’s proceedings I should imagine that half of them will not. [More…]
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Even those who did vote for members of the Opposition are disillusioned by their actions now. [More…]
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The communications I am getting openly state that the people concerned do not necessarily support the Labor Party at electionsthat they may not have voted for the Labor Party at the last election- but that they will not stand idly by and watch the Opposition in its attempts to gain control of the Government benches when we have a freely elected Government, twice freely elected government, already on those Government benches. [More…]
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So long as we are in Opposition we intend to act as an Opposition and so long as we can register our vote, irrespective of whether it is successful, our duty as members of Parliament and as members of the Opposition is to do exactly that. [More…]
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To be fair to Senator Murphy and Mr Whitlam, in those days they did not say that the Senate did not have the power to vote against a money Bill or to force a Government to resign. [More…]
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Quotations have already been put before the Senate which have been taken from the Hansard of both chambers showing that both Senator Murphy as Leader of the Opposition in this chamber and Mr Whitlam as Leader of the Opposition in the House of Representatives asserted the right to vote against a money Bill and to force a Government to resign. [More…]
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If an honourable senator is entitled to vote against a money Bill- as individual honourable senators have done, including some fifteen who are still Labor members of this chamber, on some 6000 occasions between 1950 and 1970- then all honourable senators have the right and the power so to vote. [More…]
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It matters not to the existence of the power whether they voted successfully or unsuccessfully. [More…]
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smaller in population, would not vote for federation unless they have some protection given to them in the Senate and they got it. [More…]
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All that has happened is that Mr Whitlam is now Prime Minister and, as I know from experience, Prime Ministers become a little frustrated if the Senate carries a vote against them. [More…]
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It will not allow these Bills to proceed to a second reading debate or to a second reading vote. [More…]
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If honourable senators opposite are so convinced that they have a watertight esse justifying the rejection of the Appropriation Bills, why do they not vote on the Bills? [More…]
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Opposition senators, particularly elderly Opposition senators who have some sense of history, do not want it to be indelibly recorded in Hansard that they personally voted to reject Appropriation Bills for the first time in 75 years of Federation, thereby jeopardising or endangering the survival of constitutional government. [More…]
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I do not know what this has to do with States rights when we have a vote- I exclude Senator Bunton and Senator Hall from this because they are Independents- in which the parties are divided on rigid party lines and indeed on which there is ample reason to believe that several members of the Opposition were bludgeoned into submitting themselves to party discipline and vote to defer these Bills against their personal better judgment. [More…]
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Senator Hall already has quoted from the Adelaide Advertiser which has finally spelt out the reality that of course there is no free vote and there never has been. [More…]
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-On how they would vote? [More…]
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Today he has shown himself as somebody who will vote for a government which is committed to centralised government, and which is committed to destroying the private enterprise system and replacing it with a socialist system. [More…]
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Today he has his opportunity to vote. [More…]
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He goes against everything he said then and he will vote with a party whose principles and policies are against what Senator Hall has always claimed to represent. [More…]
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That is again the Australian Labor Party- will vote against the Bills here and in the Senate. [More…]
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I simply want to say that in accordance with what we indicated earlier, we propose to vote against the third reading of this Appropriation Bill as an indication of our complete and utter rejection of the Budget. [More…]
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Seventeen senators who vote in the Senate currently voted with the Labor Party behind Senator Murphy in following that intention of 1 970. [More…]
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smaller in population, would not vote for federation unless they have some protection given to them in the senate and they got it. [More…]
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All that has happened is that Mr Whitlam is now Prime Minister and, as I know from experience, Prime Ministers become a little frustrated if the Senate carries a vote against them. [More…]
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They have one when they vote for the House of Representatives and they have one when they vote for the Senate. [More…]
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Every honourable senator who today will vote with the Government against the Opposition’s amendment, every honourable senator who adheres to the point of view that we do not have the moral, political or legal right to delay, defer or take a positive action in relation to Appropriation Bills, also opposed the setting up of the Estimates Committees last year. [More…]
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The Labor Party has abrogated, through its votes in this House and through its speeches in this House and in the other place, its right to claim that it defends the interests of the people in the matter of the basic thrust of democratic government. [More…]
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In 10 or 15 years time, if I am lucky enough or unlucky enough to be here and the situation arises where the wheel has turned, as it always does in this game, where there may be a conservative government and a Labor majority in the Senate, where there may be a low vote on the opinion polls because some unpopular but perhaps necessary decision has been made, I do not believe that I will be able to say to my colleagues: ‘We should not do this’, because they will say: ‘Do not be a fool. [More…]
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We really believe that if the Opposition is opposed to them it should not just defer them, using the vote of a man who could not be here because he died. [More…]
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Members of the Opposition should have the guts to stand up and vote against the Bills. [More…]
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smaller in population, would not vote for Federation unless they have some protection given to them in the Senate and they got it. [More…]
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As I have said to many members as I have crossed the floor in the last 2 days, they are getting their vote over the body of a dead colleague in this chamber. [More…]
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Opposition members do not have the guts or the fortitude to vote to reject the Budget. [More…]
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The Government this morning moved a vote of confidence in itself in the House of Representatives. [More…]
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As the Government did not permit the motion to be debated and immediately moved the gag, was the intent of the motion to commit publicly all votes of the Australian Labor Party to the course of action of the Prime Minister? [More…]
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I hope you will at least consider my prediction that if you take or attempt to take the Prime Minister’s office, by the device of a vote in the Senate, your leadership capacity will automatically degenerate to the disadvantage of the Liberal Party. [More…]
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I follow Senator Bunton in rounding up this debate, and I should say at the outset that Senator Bunton, even though on many occasions he has voted against this Government, speaks with the voice of a genuine Independent. [More…]
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I do not agree with many of the things which he has said in this Parliament and, as I have said, I have not agreed with the way in which he has seen fit on some occasions to vote against Government legislation. [More…]
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Section 17 of the Constitution gives the Senate the right to withdraw the President of the Senate by a simple vote. [More…]
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By a simple vote- he does not have to be guilty of a misdeamenour- the President can be removed. [More…]
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This is an important and topical matter, for in the new Senate the Government will not have a majority in its own right, though it was, little more than a year ago, given by popular vote, a very large majority in the House of Representatives; a majority which, in the normal course, it will continue to have for the better pan of the next two years. [More…]
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This is an important and topical matter, for in the new Senate the Government will not have a majority in its own right, though it was, little more than a year ago, given by popular vote, a very large majority in the House of Representatives; a majority which, in the normal course, it will continue to have for the better part of the next two years. [More…]
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This means that the Bill so vetoed by the President does not become law unless twothirds of the Senators vote for it. [More…]
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Under that system Ministers sit in and are responsible to Parliament; the Cabinet may be displaced by a vote of the [More…]
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Under the Commonwealth Constitution, the President of the Senate has a deliberative vote, but no casting vote. [More…]
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If the votes on any motion are equal, the motion is defeated. [More…]
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In short, with every senator voting, a vote of 30-30 is a negative vote. [More…]
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If the Senate functioned (as a few people still maintain) as a States House, and a matter arose, which was regarded as having a special and particular reference to one State, or some States, and all the senators from a State decided to vote together in the special interests of their State, then it is clear that any three States acting together could defeat the measure concerned, even though all of the senators from the other States supported the measure. [More…]
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It would be very rarely that a Liberal senator or a Country Party senator, or a Labor senator, would feel himself free to vote against giving effect to a measure propounded by his own party in the House of Representatives after a general election at which his party had been chosen, perhaps by a large majority, to carry on the government of Australia on the basis of its electoral policy. [More…]
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The proposal to refer the legislation to a committee is a mere farce, a cover-up to cause it to disappear from sight forever without the Opposition having to commit itself by a vote. [More…]
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Mr President, I suggest that we put it to the vote. [More…]
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I simply want to say that, in accordance with what we indicated earlier, we propose to vote against the third reading of this Appropriation Bill as an indication of our complete and utter rejection of the Budget. [More…]
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If the motion is defeated, we will vote against the Bills here and in the Senate. [More…]
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If the motion is defeated, we will vote against the Bills here and in the Senate. [More…]
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I simply want to say that, in accordance with what we indicated earlier, we propose to vote against the third reading of this Appropriation Bill as an indication of our complete and utter rejection of the Budget. [More…]
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Yet I can recall an occasion in this place in 1 970-1 have a copy of the Hansard before me- when in a division on the third reading of an Appropriation Bill the Labor Party voted against us as the Government, and included in the names of those who voted against us was none other than Senator Douglas McClelland. [More…]
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He on that occasion saw fit to vote against Supply but on this occasion, in government, he sees fit to turn around and condemn us in opposition for adopting exactly the same role. [More…]
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If the motion is defeated, we will vote against the Bills here and in the Senate. [More…]
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The Opposition - has done this over the years and in order to illustrate the tradition which has been established, with the concurrence of honourable senators I shall incorporate in Hansard at the end of my speech a list of the measures of an economic or financial nature, including taxation and appropriation Bills, which have been opposed by the Opposition in whole or in part by a vote in the Senate since 1 950. [More…]
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But what does Senator Young think his action and his vote in this chamber will have cost the Australian community by Christmas. [More…]
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It is all very well for people to quote Government spokesmen when they were in Opposition saying that the proper course might be to defer a budget or a Supply Bill or to vote against a Supply Bill or the proper course might be for a government to resign. [More…]
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These are new and unique suggestions from the Opposition which we will no doubt have to devote a few more days to debate. [More…]
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Certainly we would have sought the adjournment of the debate because, in conformity with normal procedure, any matter that requires a vote in this Parliament must be considered by the Executive [More…]
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Of course, as we all know, with numbers being as they are in the Senate, if Senator Withers had wished to force a vote on the matter today, one of his number, as happened last Wednesday in relation to the urgency motion, could have moved the gag to bring on the debate and get a decision on it. [More…]
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If the system of one vote one value was operating at that election the Labor Party would not have one member in the Queensland Parliament. [More…]
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I believe that I would be doing the wrong thing in this place if I did not vote to defer Supply until such time as this Government is prepared to go to the people. [More…]
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Let me also make this point: Not only did the Australian Labor Party vote against the Budget in 1 970, but Mr John Gorton suggested on the television program Federal File in September 1973 that this was a proper course for a Senate to take if the government was running the country as badly as this Government undoubtedly is. [More…]
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They certainly are not the 1 8 year olds who were denied a vote by this Opposition for 23 years but who the Opposition was very happy to send out to fight its wars. [More…]
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It was not until this Government came into power that these people were given a vote and a responsibility in the country. [More…]
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I did, and I was delighted to learn that if we had had an election on the day on which the Morgan gallup poll was taken the Labor Party would have been wiped out in a landslide, that it would have polled 43 per cent of the vote and that we would have polled 50 per cent plus of the vote. [More…]
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I did read the gallup poll and it said that if people were to vote today they would vote the Labor Party out of office in a landslide. [More…]
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In the knowledge that the Opposition had deferred appropriation, the people were asked on 18 October how they would vote, and they said overwhelmingly: ‘We would wipe out the Labor Party’. [More…]
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I want to deal with the situation- I will be a little discursive- that is represented by the fact that Senator Wright on this issue, not on a question of State rights or review such as was the purpose of senatorial representation for the States three-quarters of a century ago, has a vote that is worth approximately 13 times that of Senator Carrick. [More…]
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So far as I am concerned, in the situation that confronts the Senate there is no democratic basis for Senator Wright having a vote worth 1 3 times that of Senator Carrick or for my having a vote worth, say, 10 times that of Senator Missen. [More…]
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I for one, having been elected by the people of Western Australia- like Senator Everett, I am proud to claim to be an Australian- intend to vote in a way which I believe best serves the interests of the people of Western Australia. [More…]
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A favourite precedent cited by those who believe that electoral boundaries should be on a strict one vote one value basis is the American Constitution. [More…]
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Recent judgments of the American Supreme Court have asserted, in a most vigorous fashion, that one must apply the principle of one vote one value in the apportionment of electorates for the House of Representatives in that country. [More…]
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I know of no argument before the Supreme Court or of no suggestion by the United States Supreme Court that the position of the Senate in the United States infringes against those Bill of Rights provisions which have given rise to the one vote one value decisions in that court. [More…]
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I simply want to say that, in accordance with what we indicated earlier, we propose to vote against the third reading of this Appropriation Bill as an indication of our complete and utter rejection of the Budget. [More…]
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It is interesting to cast an eye down the voting list and note the honourable senators who were quite happy then to vote to try to defeat the third reading of the Appropriation Bill in 1970. [More…]
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For example, there was Senator Reg Bishop who is in charge of the chamber for the Government this afternoon who cast his ‘no’ vote on the Appropriation Bill at that time. [More…]
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Also I find that Senator Cavanagh, another Minister now, voted in the same way. [More…]
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I find that Senator Georges voted in the same way, as did Senator Keeffe and Senator Douglas McClelland, and I regret only that Senator James McClelland was not then a senator so that he too could have cast his vote for principle as he would then have seen it. [More…]
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Senator Mulvihill even found it in his heart to vote ‘ no ‘ on that occasion. [More…]
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They will neither vote for a bill nor vote against it. [More…]
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Senator Georges, as the Chairman of that Committee, has, as is no doubt proper, a casting vote in that Committee. [More…]
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I have checked the resolution of the Senate which set up the Committee and have found that paragraph 7 of it provides that in the event of an equality of voting the Chairman, or Deputy Chairman when acting as the Chairman, shall have a casting vote. [More…]
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The joint sitting determined the new electoral laws based on the principle upon which the Liberal Party, the Labor Party, the American Constitution and the Australian Constitution are supposed to be based, and that is the principle of one vote one value. [More…]
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Bills to proceed to a vote? [More…]
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They will neither vote for a Bill nor vote against it. [More…]
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I will vote on it. [More…]
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I most certainly without hesitation would vote against that appropriation. [More…]
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Speaking from an individual point of view in a circumstance of that sort, I would say, standing where I do at the moment, that I would vote against that appropriation. [More…]
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There is a difference of one in this place and the vote here will possibly be 29 votes to 28, or even allowing for pairs, with a majority of just one. [More…]
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Government for perusal before the matter is put to a vote. [More…]
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I have never pretended, as honourable senators opposite do, that I have a free vote and that if I exercise a free vote no disciplinary action will be taken against me. [More…]
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People who I thought would not succumb under the so-called free vote situation have succumbed because of the threat that they will not get another endorsement if they cross the floor or refrain from voting. [More…]
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He is going to win on the vote of a dead man. [More…]
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I urge the Opposition to consider whether it is proper for a member of a Party in a majority fortuitously in the Senate- whether or not the Opposition uses the vote of a deceased senator is not material to my argument- to come along to the Senate and to say: ‘I have a statutory declaration from a certain person- inferentially implicating the Government, or purporting to do so- and I am going to read a section from it’, and then by pre-arrangement for the Opposition Whip to get up and move under standing order 364. [More…]
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I think that tells us volumes of the character of the people who sit opposite and it tells us volumes also about those people within the Opposition who say that they would not vote to reject a Budget. [More…]
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When they say that they are speaking with a forked tongue because they know very well that the resolution which has been voted on here was a resolution which would not have been carried had proper procedures been followed. [More…]
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The Government increased its representation in the Senate from 26 to 29 members and attracted 200 000 votes in excess of the combined vote of the Opposition senators. [More…]
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They are the immediate issues upon which a vote will be taken, but underlying those issues is the fundamental question of whether the Australian people shall have the right to vote out this incompetent, corrupt and bad Government; or shall we for a period indefinitely into the future have to suffer a government on the apparent belief that there is no means of bringing its tenure of office to an end? [More…]
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In 1970 he purported to follow this course and would have succeeded if he had persuaded the Australian Democratic Labor Party which held the balance of power in the Senate at that time to vote with him. [More…]
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Naturally the bulk of that vote is the traditional Labor vote and, as always, the traditional Liberal vote will still stand in its traditional position. [More…]
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The Parliament then has an opportunity to debate the Budget and vote on the Appropriation Bills. [More…]
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However, a large proportion of expenditure cannot be voted upon at Budget time as it remains authorised by previously passed Acts of Parliament, although it is recorded in the Budget Papers and there may be various other opportunities to criticise it in Parliament. [More…]
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Parliament would have the advantage of seeing the Budget for the year as a whole before having to vote on a pan of it as is in the Supply Bills. [More…]
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This means that Parliament must debate and vote on the original budget without being able to anticipate later occurrences which, had they been anticipated, might have changed its attitude to some items in the original budget. [More…]
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Parliament does have an opportunity to vote on some of the later changes made to the Budget but not to all. [More…]
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It is doing this not by dealing individually with Bills at this stage but by using the Budget Bills as the means for endeavouring to ensure that the people of Australia are given the opportunity to vote on the continuation of this Government which has acted in an unconstitutional manner in a variety of ways. [More…]
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When one hears a news item like that over a national broadcast it is rime to revise the vote by which that Commission exists. [More…]
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As local government bodies, fruit growers and dairy farmers adjacent to the Murray in South Australia will face a very dangerous and serious financial situation because of this projected flood, can the Minister say whether the Australian Government will be prevented from acceding to any requests from the South Australian Government for supplementary financial and physical assistance, in addition to that which the State Government has already announced, to carry out flood prevention measures if honourable senators opposite continue with their refusal to allow the Appropriation Bills to proceed to a vote? [More…]
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The Opposition does not intend to vote against the legislation, even though it has produced all sorts of arguments in both the other place and this chamber to suggest that there are some deficiencies in the Bills. [More…]
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Even though many words have been spoken by the Opposition, when the vote is taken at least the new deal for taxpayers that is inherent in this legislation will be adopted by the Senate and therefore will become law. [More…]
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We all know that it was not long ago that members of the Press were trying to find out from him whether he would vote for Supply. [More…]
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No vote of no confidence in me as President of the Senate was taken during that period. [More…]
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To eliminate the large informal vote cast for the Senate at the double dissolution elections of 1974 and 1975 the Government should legislate to introduce optional preferential voting; and [More…]
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Ballot papers will be distributed to honourable senators, who are requested to write upon the paper handed to them the name of the candidate for whom they desire to vote. [More…]
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In the event of an equality of voting, the Chairman, or the Deputy Chairman when acting as Chairman, shall have a casting vote. [More…]
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10) A senator, though not a member of a standing committee, may participate in its public sessions and question witnesses, unless the committee orders otherwise, hut shall not vote. [More…]
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We realise that the people voted the Labor Government out of office, and I use that phrase very deliberately. [More…]
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They voted us out of office; they did not vote in the Fraser Government. [More…]
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Just as they voted us out of office, after nearly 3 years in government, because of the massive propaganda machine that had been developed against the Labor movement in that period of time, I believe that they will vote out the Fraser Government if it lasts the 3 years that the Labor Government lasted. [More…]
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It had deferred consideration of Supply and we all know that at least one of its then members had stated publicly to the Australian people that if the Opposition moved to reject Supply he would vote against it. [More…]
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We saw the situation in the other place where, after the Labor Government had been sacked, it showed in a vote that it still had a majority among the elected members of that House. [More…]
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The Foreign Affairs vote was also affected. [More…]
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If there were any objection I would expect that a vote of the Senate would have to be taken on the matter. [More…]
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Taking the matter a little further, I should like to ask you, Mr President, if you would give serious consideration to allowing some dress reform without our having to go through the trauma of any honourable senators coming into the Parliament to put the requirements of dress to the test or to a vote. [More…]
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They advocated a no vote in the referendum, as did Senator Carrick and other honourable senators. [More…]
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The people exercised their freedom to vote on the matter. [More…]
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Many people who attended the rallies, who offered to support Labor and who financed the Labor campaign, one would not have thought from their occupations would normally vote for the Labor Party. [More…]
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It may be said that the big rallies purchased votes, but here is a Minister of the Crown who is justifying the purchase of votes. [More…]
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I think that all Labor people contributed for the purpose of attracting votes. [More…]
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I give an annual contribution for the purpose of attracting votes but I did not give a penny for the purpose of getting Michael Cavanough a vote in the Australian Capital Territory. [More…]
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I did not give a penny for the purpose of getting any other independent candidate a vote in any district in Australia. [More…]
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That is the purchase of votes. [More…]
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But the fact cannot be avoided that people outside a particular political party were paid to enter this election for the purpose of purchasing votes. [More…]
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He managed to lead his Party to an election, of course, where it received less than 41 per cent of the formal Senate vote. [More…]
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It is rather interesting to note that during the whole period when the American Congress, Press and White House were saying that all work on Diego Garcia had been curtailed because of a vote in the Congress- the supply of funds had been curtaileddespite those statements work never ceased. [More…]
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What could there be sinister for democracy in a circumstance in the operation of a constitution, which saw the Australian people given the opportunity to go thoughtfully, responsibly and quietly to cast their vote in secret ballot. [More…]
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I believe that the Labor Party set out with the right thought in mind, but it allowed itself to be carried away with vote catching gimmicks and excessive expenditure and this has resulted in the economic state which we are facing at the present time. [More…]
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It has to be said that if the American people had been asked to vote on the matter at that time they probably would not have cast an affirmative vote for such an inquiry. [More…]
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They will be asked to vote on matters specifically within the sphere of the State Government’s responsibility in Victoria. [More…]
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I will be interested to see the way other honourable senators from the outlying States who preach and pontificate and peddle the myth that the Senate is a States House and not a parties House actually vote if the Fraser Government’s new federalism policy is submitted to the Senate. [More…]
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I propose to vote against the provisions in these clauses because I believe that the Government is acting in some haste to get them through when certain questions still remain to be answered. [More…]
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I propose to vote against the clauses. [More…]
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In Victoria, in the House of Representatives election, the Australian Labor Party got 42 per cent of the vote and it holds 10 seats. [More…]
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The Liberal Party got 42.3 per cent of the vote and it holds 1 9 seats. [More…]
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The National Country Party of Australia got 8.8 per cent of the vote and it holds 5 seats. [More…]
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We have one Party with 42 per cent of the vote holding 10 seats while a party with 0.3 per cent more of the vote holds 9 more seats. [More…]
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Then, the National Country Party with 8.8 per cent of the vote holds 5 seats. [More…]
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In the event of an equality of voting, the Chairman, or the Deputy-Chairman when acting as Chairman, shall have a casting vote. [More…]
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10) A Senator, though not a member of a Standing Committee, may participate in its public sessions and question witnesses, unless the Committee orders otherwise, but shall not vote. [More…]
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I hope that sufficient senators on the other side will show their independence by crossing the floor to vote with us to carry the amendment. [More…]
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I put it to the Senate quite seriously that I had no part in determining the original resolution to set up the Senate Standing Committee on Finance and Government Operations, and certainly no part to play- other than to vote on the proposal- in giving to that Committee the responsibility to deal with estate duties. [More…]
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I well remember, as I think does every member of the present Opposition, that at the Launceston conference of the Australian Labor Party in 1971 a motion to dissolve the security organisation was lost by one vote. [More…]
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One of the persons whose vote might have been supposed to have carried the day subsequently became the Attorney-General of this country. [More…]
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I am in a very awkward position because the Senate has agreed to take these 2 Bills in tandem so in fact I cannot really vote against the propositions and attempt to defeat the Australian Security Intelligence Organisation Bill. [More…]
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Those 4 senators, could be elected on the preference votes of the other political parties. [More…]
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It would be quite simple for those 4 senators to vote with the party in Opposition to reverse the conventions that we have carried out over the last double dissolutions. [More…]
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In conclusion, I have been somewhat surprised to hear honourable senators on the other side of the chamber berate the GovernorGeneral their own appointee- for applying the country’s Constitution, an action which was endorsed subsequently by the democratic vote of the people. [More…]
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While we on the Labor side must recognise the significance of the people’s vote last December- that social change must be introduced in an orderly fashion within a framework of economic stability and government cohesiveness- the conservatives must recognise also that the vote of last December was not a vote for reaction or a vote for social inequality. [More…]
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The vote for travel in the Northern Territory division is less than 0.3 of 1 per cent of the total appropriation. [More…]
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In some ways, of course, the result of the election was not a vote for the Liberal Party so much as a decided vote against the Labor Party. [More…]
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In this case in South Australia, the Liberal Party slogan helped to concentrate a vote which had already swung far away from Senator McAuliffe ‘s Party. [More…]
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I remember that on the day of the election that a person who, I believe, was an active supporter of the Labor Party, had arranged to copy a Liberal Movement how-to-vote card. [More…]
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It was a deliberate attempt to deceive- with all the expense and effort required in copying how-to-vote cards. [More…]
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Very wisely, he took the course of accompanying his letter of dismissal to the previous Prime Minister with a statement of reasons to be publicised so that the country could understand that the purpose of the GovernorGeneral ‘s action was that the ultimate sovereign power in this country, namely, the vote of the people at a secretballot, could be obtained, and it would lead to a solution of the constitutional difficulty. [More…]
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But the GovernorGeneral knew that the vote of no-confidence in the House was a charade. [More…]
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Before Parliament purported to be dissolved the Senate had passed the budget legislation and the new Prime Minister had lost a vote of confidence in the House of Representatives. [More…]
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The Governor-General failed to receive official notice of the vote in the House only because he declined to receive the Speaker before the purported dissolution. [More…]
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That was before the demonstration of the vote on 13 December; but it could be perceived by a distant objective reviewer that these procedures were a marvellous example of the Constitution working well in a crisis. [More…]
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Before Parliament purported to be dissolved the Senate had passed the budget legislation and the new Prime Minister had lost a vote of confidence in the House of Representatives. [More…]
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The Governor-General failed to receive official notice of the vote in the House only because he declined to receive the Speaker before the purported dissolution. [More…]
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Australian Labor Party would have to get in excess of 62 per cent or 63 per cent of the vote to be able to win government. [More…]
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The legislation did not come to a vote but I indicated in the strongest terms that I could muster at that time that I considered that this was a matter which the Senate itself would need to investigate. [More…]
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Therefore, I announce to honourable senators who sit in this place that, when this Bill goes to the vote, I shall not be present voting. [More…]
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I suppose he now adopts a lone position in that he will not vote for the Loan Bill 1976. [More…]
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Last year he would not vote for it and neither would members of his Party. [More…]
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He will stand alone and not vote for the measure. [More…]
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Senator Sir Magnus Cormack has signified his displeasure and his intention not to vote at all. [More…]
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This eventually meant a vote of the utmost severity. [More…]
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Indeed, it was the most severe vote in our history. [More…]
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In South Australia the Liberal Party secured 5 1.4 per cent of the Senate vote as opposed to 40.6 per cent secured by the Australian Labor Party. [More…]
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I am good friends with many farmers although not many of them vote for me at election time. [More…]
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The petition of the undersigned citizens of Australia respectfully showeth that many Australians are concerned at the announced decision by the Australian Government to reduce the 1975-76 Overseas Development Assistance vote by $21 million, and by the abolition of the Australian Development Assistance Agency. [More…]
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as a matter of urgency, reverse the decision to cut the 1975-76 Overseas Development Assistance vote, so as to ensure that the full amount appropriated by Parliament for Overseas Development Assistance is spent this financial year to meet the pressing needs of those in the developing countries; [More…]
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The Government is conscious of the fact that Opposition senators are not in favour of the legislation but feels that all questions have been answered and the matter should now go to a vote. [More…]
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He referred to the fact that it is estimated that at least 50 per cent of trade union members did not vote for Labor in the last Federal election but, in fact, voted for the return of a Liberal-National Country Party government. [More…]
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Whereas before there was an objection to the idea of the nobility or the wealthy class being a leisured class, it is being proposed now that there is nothing at all wrong with the leisure class, nothing at all wrong with money being given to people as a means of subsistence, nothing at all wrong with whether they make any sort of contribution or are absolute parasites in society, as long as they are not noble or well-bred, as long as they are people from the working class and apparently people who would otherwise vote Labor. [More…]
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Is the Minister also aware that the Liberal-National Country Party parliamentary delegation can only be described as a massive vote of no confidence in the Australian Government? [More…]
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By a massive vote in the Northern Territory, the National Country Party and the Liberal Party candidates took almost every seat in the Legislative Assembly. [More…]
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Referring to the vote, Mr Giles is reported in the Murray Pioneer newspaper of 30 May 1974 as having said: the vote was against ALP Senators in particular because of their refusal to attend two large grower meetings. [More…]
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He said his vote was up over 1000 votes in this area. [More…]
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Mr Giles attributes his increase in his vote to the fact that South Australian Labor senators refused to attend large grower meetings in the Riverland area which were held to discuss with the growers the problems they faced. [More…]
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Yet we find the local member playing politics and saying that his vote increased because we did not attend a meeting of growers in the Riverland. [More…]
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The United Nations was designed on Western concepts of liberty and decision-making, especially decision by majority vote. [More…]
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It is the ultimate paradox that the less developed countries reject and denigrate the system of one man one vote in their own countries but they demand and exploit the right of one state one vote in the General Assembly because they do not understand democracy’s ground rules. [More…]
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They demand and exploit that vote despite the disparity in their powers, their resources, their experience, their responsibilities and their contributions. [More…]
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There is no possibility of organising international affairs by a majority vote in a global organisation. [More…]
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Urge Aborigines to vote LiberalCountry Party on December 1 3. [More…]
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Vote Liberal and National Country Party on December 1 3 for new deal for Aboriginal people. [More…]
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It has also been necessary to achieve a cut in expenditure from food vote and this has been done by: [More…]
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Well, as I said, Mr Fraser made tribal noises the other day as a result of a delegation of National Country Party people who came down to Canberra, following their vote of no confidence in him. [More…]
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That was not to be, because certain of the parties in the Senate at the time did not choose to vote with the Liberal and National Country parties. [More…]
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What was the total number of votes recorded and the percentage of that vote on (a) a national basis and (b) a State and Territory basis for all candidates contesting the 1975 House of Representatives election on behalf of the Australia Party, the Australian Labor Party, the Communist Party, the Australian Democratic Labor Party, the Liberal Party, the National Country Party and the Workers Party. [More…]
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The petition of the undersigned citizens of Australia respectfully showeth that many Australians are concerned at the announced decision by the Australian Government to reduce the 1975-76 Overseas Development Assistance vote by $2 1 m, and by the abolition of the Australian Development Assistance Agency. [More…]
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as a matter of urgency, reverse the decision to cut the 1975-76 Overseas Development Assistance vote, so as to ensure that the full amount appropriated by Parliament for Overseas Development Assistance is spent this financial year to meet the pressing needs of those in the developing countries; [More…]
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The petition of the undersigned citizens of Australia respectfully showeth that many Australians are concerned at the announced decision by the Australian Government to reduce the 1975/76 Overseas Development Assistance vote by $2 lm, and by the abolition of the Australian Development Assistance Agency. [More…]
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as a matter of urgency, reverse the decision to cut the 1975/76 Overseas Development Assistance vote, so as to ensure that the full amount appropriated by Parliament for Overseas Development Assistance is spent this financial year to meet the pressing needs of those in the developing countries; [More…]
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Yet it was his vote that enabled the Commission to report that the bounty should be maintained for an interim period of 12 months. [More…]
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The petition of the undersigned citizens of Australia respectfully showeth that many Australians are concerned at the announced decision by the Australian Government to reduce the 1975-76 Overseas Development Assistance vote by $2 1 m, and by the abolition of the Australian Development Assistance Agency. [More…]
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as a matter of urgency, reverse the decision to cut the 1975-76 Overseas Development Assistance vote, so as to ensure that the full amount appropriated by Parliament for Overseas Development Assistance is spent this financial year to meet the pressing needs of those in the developing countries; [More…]
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The petition of the undersigned citizens of Australia respectfully showeth that many Australians are concerned at the announced decision by the Australian Government to reduce the 1975-76 Overseas Development Assistance vote by $2 1 m, and by the abolition of the Australian Development Assistance Agency. [More…]
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as a matter of urgency, reverse the decision to cut the 1975-76 Overseas Development Assistance vote, so as to ensure that the full amount appropriated by Parliament for Overseas Development Assistance is spent this financial year to meet the pressing needs of those in the developing countries; [More…]
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To the Honourable the President and members of the Senate in Parliament assembled, The petition of the undersigned citizens of Australia respectfully showeth that many Australians are concerned at the announced decision by the Australian Government to reduce the 1975-76 Overseas Development Assistance vote by $2 1 m, and by the abolition of the Australian Development Assistance Agency. [More…]
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as a matter of urgency, reverse the decision to cut the 1975-76 Overseas Development Assistance vote, so as to ensure that the full amount appropriated by Parliament for Overseas Development Assistance is spent this financial year to meet the pressing needs of those in the developing countries; [More…]
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There must be a vote in this chamber to prevent me from speaking against the motion before the Committee. [More…]
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If I am to be prevented from speaking within the time limit that is available to me without a vote of the Senate my rights must be upheld. [More…]
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This is a payola for the vote of the people of the National Country Party. [More…]
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We will have to allow this question to proceed to a vote. [More…]
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We called not only for the withdrawal of Indonesian troops and the satellite Provisional Government that exists there but also for the establishment of a United Nations presence in East Timor so that there can be a free and proper vote on self-determination by the indigenous people of that territory. [More…]
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And whereas democratic control can only be guaranteed by the opportunity for all rank and file members of organisations to vote in elections for officials and Committees of Management, and whereas some forces within the Trade Union Movement are attempting to deny rank and file members the right to vote in Union elections. [More…]
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Resist the pressures from those elements in the Trade Union Movement seeking to deny members the right to vote. [More…]
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Ensure the widest participation in Union ballots by making it compulsory to vote in union elections. [More…]
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I believe that this statement has been put out as a vote catcher. [More…]
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The petition of the undersigned citizens of Australia respectfully showeth that many Australians are concerned at the announced decision by the Australian Government to reduce the 1975-76 Overseas Development Assistance vote by $21 million, and by the abolition of the Australian Development Assistance Agency. [More…]
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as a matter of urgency, reverse the decision to cut the 1975-76 Overseas Development Assistance vote, so as to ensure that the full amount appropriated by Parliament for Overseas Development Assistance is spent this financial year to meet the pressing needs of those in the developing countries; [More…]
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In the event of an equality of voting, the chairman, or the deputy-chairman when acting as chairman, shall have a casting vote. [More…]
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A Senator, though not a member of a Committee, may attend and participate in its deliberations, and question witnesses, unless the Committee orders otherwise, but shall not vote. [More…]
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I have had association and friendship, I hope, with some thousands of pensioners over the years, and many of them voted for me. [More…]
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I have therefore made the not too difficult decision to vote for the deletion of this clause. [More…]
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I wish to inform the Senate that it is my intention to vote against this proposal by the Government. [More…]
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As far as I am concerned, while I am here I will always vote according to the dictates of my conscience. [More…]
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As a consequence, I will vote against this clause of the Bill. [More…]
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If the situation arises in which expenditure cuts are proposed, the Senate will vote accordingly to throw out the proposition. [More…]
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If clause 1 is carried, I intend to vote against it on the motion that the Bill stand as printed. [More…]
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I ask that those 2 facts be placed into perspective as we proceed to the vote on this Bill. [More…]
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I simply make that perfectly clear as we proceed to the vote on this Bill. [More…]
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It is ludicrous for the Minister to attempt blackmail and to say to the members of this chamber that they should not vote against this Bill because if they do the Government will not pay the pensioners their increases. [More…]
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I point out to Senator Sim and his colleagues who are attempting to interject and who claim that they have the freedom to vote as they like in this place while Opposition senators do not that there is a very great difference between the way in which the Parties of the honourable senators opposite would have considered this Bill and the way in which we would have considered it. [More…]
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Honourable senators opposite, including those who have expressed their intention to vote against this Bill, had no opportunity to vote on this Bill in their Party room. [More…]
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Therefore, they should have the right to vote as they like in this place. [More…]
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It is not considered to be a political issue which will inspire people to vote for one party or the other. [More…]
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If it does, I make an appeal to any honourable senator opposite who has a spark of humanity in him, who thinks of the plight of pensioners, who thinks of what this will mean to the pensioners who find themselves in very poor circumstances after their partner dies, to vote with the Opposition so that the pensioners of Australia will not be faced with having this benefit taken from them. [More…]
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I have a responsibility to tell the Senate what I know of this matter to prevent it from falling into the error of carrying the motion to table a document that any decent, fair-minded citizen of Australia would never vote for. [More…]
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Therefore, I suggest that honourable senators should not vote for the motion. [More…]
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Unless there is something very wrong I shall always vote with the popularly elected party in this place’. [More…]
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It only narrowly won that election in terms of the percentage of the vote. [More…]
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They will vote as one would expect them to vote on having become aware of that sort of a threat to the most populous, and indeed the oldest, State in Australia. [More…]
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In my own State of Western Australia, where all people are equal, but some are 16 times as equal as others because they have a vote in the Legislative Council of Western Australia which is worth 16 votes of other Western Australian citizens, quite massive income taxes can be and may be applied by a Parliament which is elected on a basis which is democratic to the extent of a ratio of 16 to one. [More…]
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The petition of the undersigned citizens of Australia respectfully showeth that many Australians are concerned at the announced decision by the Australian Government to reduce the 1975-76 Overseas Development Assistance vote by $21 million, and by the abolition of the Australian Development Assistance Agency. [More…]
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as a matter of urgency, reverse the decision to cut the 1975-76 Overseas Development Assistance vote, so as to ensure that the full amount appropriated by Parliament for Overseas Development Assistance is spent this financial year to meet the pressing needs of those in developing countries; [More…]
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The Sydney Morning Herald, which is noted for its conservatism and for its editorials at the time of a federal, State of local government election enjoining the people to vote in a certain way, in its editorial today states: . [More…]
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To eliminate the large informal vote cast for the Senate at the Double Dissolution Elections of 1974 and 1975 the Government should legislate to introduce optional preferential voting; and [More…]
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The second proposition in my motion which I have moved on behalf of the Australian Labor Party concerns the large informal vote which was cast for the Senate at the double dissolution elections of 1974 and 1975. [More…]
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I know that my friend and colleague Senator Mulvihill has interested himself in the very large informal vote which has taken place in Senate elections over the years in New South Wales which is the State he and I have the honour to represent in this Parliament. [More…]
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A voter says: ‘I want candidate A as my first choice, then candidate B as my second choice if candidate A does not get sufficient votes, and then I want candidate C if candidate B does not get sufficient votes. [More…]
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Last and least of all I want candidate D. Indeed, I hate candidate D so much that in normal circumstances I would not vote for him at all unless I had to. [More…]
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Under our existing system that is how we assume a voter’s mind functions. [More…]
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We demand that he register a vote. [More…]
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We dictate to him that he shall vote and then, in exercising that vote, we expect him to have acquired a good knowledge of all the candidates contesting the election. [More…]
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But that is not much different from what we expect a voter to do in Senate elections. [More…]
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By asking him or her to cast a vote for every candidate before we count that vote as formal, I suggest, is asking too much of anyone, especially those who are aged or infirm or who might be retarded in the slightest possible way. [More…]
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Instead of making it a near impossibility for countless thousands of Australians to cast an informed compulsory vote when there is an extraordinary number of candidates, as legislators we should be doing everything possible to make the task of the voter much easier. [More…]
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After all, by a free vote of the Parliament we have decided to facilitate the separation of people who are married. [More…]
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As a result of increasing interest in Aboriginal affairs since about 1970 and especially the increased vote for the Department of Aboriginal Affairs with the advent of the Labor Government in 1972-73, organisations were established for the protection of Aboriginal rights and special legal aid and better medical services were provided. [More…]
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Regrettably, when this Government came into power, with its policy of reducing Government expenditure, it reduced considerably the vote by which help could be given to the Aboriginal people. [More…]
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Mr Bridges is a part- Aborigine, the mayor of Hall’s Creek, who was elected on a white man’s vote. [More…]
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For example, at the election following the double dissolution of 1914, the non-Labor Opposition polled nearly half of the Senate vote but won only five of the 36 places in the Senate. [More…]
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Alderman Bunton however was chosen by a joint parliamentary vote of 87 votes to 70 votes. [More…]
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Senator Bunton voted with the Government when the 1975-76 Budget came before the Senate. [More…]
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If voting against Supply would do this, he might vote against Supply. [More…]
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Each time the Opposition was able to carry its motion of deferment by one vote, Senator Bunton and Senator Hall voting with the Government. [More…]
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It seemed that there were sufficient Opposition senators who would not have agreed to take the ultimate step and vote for the rejection of Supply. [More…]
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It is worth while pointing out that one Opposition senator- Senator Bessell- publicly announced that he would not vote for the rejection of Supply. [More…]
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Peter Ross: Would you under no circumstances vote for a rejection of Supply? [More…]
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Senator Bessell: At the present moment that would be my opinion, I would not want to vote for rejection. [More…]
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Peter Ross: And if it came to a vote of pure rejection of Supply you wouldn’t vote? [More…]
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Senator Bessell: I would not vote for a rejection. [More…]
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Is it to be the policy of this Government to continue to let the pensioners lag behind the CPI increases or will the Government accept the responsibility that it undertook when it asked pensioners to vote for it in the December campaign and fulfil its election promise of making these increases automatic and immediate? [More…]
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Education is now very big business in the economy of the country, the total vote being 10 per cent of the Budget outlay. [More…]
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The figure, I think, for 1975-76 is $l,908m which is larger than the defence vote and, I think, almost as large as the Medibank vote. [More…]
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There are some trade unions which demonstrate and have demonstrated over many years that basic representation of the rank and file worker, but no one can say that where there is a union membership of something like 170 000 people and only -2000 of them vote the people elected by those 2000 in any way represent the 170 000. [More…]
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The Government believes that, by introducing a system which will apply uniformly to employee and employer organisations and under which a ballot will be conducted by the Electoral Office so that every unionist will have the opportunity to vote, there will be the opportunity for representative democracy in union affairs. [More…]
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To vote against this matter of urgency should not be interpreted as a complete rejection of many of the matters raised in it. [More…]
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1 am aware of a meeting this week which you attended and which led to a vote purporting to depose you as co-ordinator. [More…]
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Territorians, regardless of colour, could not vote and still cannot vote. [More…]
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The petition of the undersigned citizens of Australia respectfully showeth that many Australians are concerned at the announced decision by the Australian Government to reduce the 1975-76 Overseas Development Assistance vote by $2 1 m, and by the abolition of the Australian Development Assistance Agency. [More…]
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as a matter of urgency, reverse the decision to cut the 1975-76 Overseas Development Assistance vote, so as to ensure that the full amount appropriated by Parliament for Overseas Development Assistance is spent this financial year to meet the pressing needs of those in the developing countries; [More…]
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In the recent New South Wales election it is true that Labor had, I think, some 6 more candidates fielded in electorates than previously so that this time it registered a larger vote, which last time was disguised in independent votes. [More…]
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The vote for Labor in the previous election was artificially lower because its vote was hidden in independent votes. [More…]
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This time the vote was more polarised and was registered as a primary vote for the 3 main political parties. [More…]
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Because there was no Liberal candidate for that seat last time, that vote would have gone to the Democratic Labor Party. [More…]
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What I said was that the vote for the Labor Party in 1 973 was lodged largely in the votes for independents. [More…]
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So quite clearly the independent vote heavily favoured the Labor Party at the last election, and no doubt was distributed and went to the Labor Party. [More…]
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In Australia all evidence shows that the Liberal vote- as demonstrated on 13 December last year, as demonstrated in Victoria, and as will be demonstrated in future State electionsis polarising at a higher and higher figure. [More…]
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If honourable senators opposite really want to bring some sort of moral pressure to bear from the Senate on to State governments to set up school boards and find the means whereby responsibility can be handed down to groups which are interested in the running of the schools, I suggest that she move a motion during a debate on general business and we can vote on it. [More…]
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I can assure the Senate- and the Government could well find this out for itself if it wished; it need not take my word for it- that one of the reasons why the rural vote in New South Wales swung so markedly to Labor in last Saturday’s election was that we of the Labor Party were able to get across to rural voters and to local government organisations in rural areas in particular that under the untied and unconditional grants made available to local government by the Australian Labor Government consequent upon the recommendations it received from the Grants Commission, the ratio of payment was of the order of $3 for the country to $ 1 for urban areas. [More…]
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For all of the reasons that I have outlined, the Opposition will vote against the second reading of this legislation, will oppose the legislation in the Committee deliberations and will vote against the third reading of the legislation. [More…]
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The petition of the undersigned citizens of Australia respectfully showeth that many Australian are concerned at the announced decision by the Australian Government to reduce the 1975-76 Overseas Development Assistance vote by $21 million, and by the abolition of the Australian Development Assistance Agency. [More…]
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as a matter of urgency, reverse the decision to cut the 1975-76 Overseas Development Assistance vote, so as to ensure that the full amount appropriated by Parliament for Overseas Development Assistance is spent this financial year to meet the pressing needs of those in the developing countries; [More…]
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Again I emphasise that whilst the Opposition opposes this clause- we do so naturally because this is a clause in the Bill which deletes what we regard as a weighty section in the existing Act- it is our intention to vote against it on the voices at this stage, but we will be seeking to divide the Committee at the conclusion of the consideration of the Bill in Committee. [More…]
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To answer point by point what has been raised by honourable senators certainly would not convince them to vote for the second reading of the Bill. [More…]
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Therefore, Mr President, I suggest, with respect to you and to the Senate, that the sooner we conclude the second reading debate, have a vote and see whether the Senate accepts the principle of the Bill and, if it does, get into the Committee stage where the details of the Bill can be argued, the better. [More…]
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To the Honourable the President and Members of the Senate in Parliament assembled: The petition of the undersigned citizens of Australia respectfully showeth that many Australians are concerned at the announced decision by the Australian Government to reduce the 1975-76 overseas development assistance vote by $2 1 million, and by the abolition of the Australian Development Assistance Agency. [More…]
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As a matter of urgency, reverse the decision to cut the 1975-76 overseas development assistance vote, so as to ensure that the full amount appropriated by Parliament for overseas development assistance is spent this financial year to meet the pressing needs of those in the developing countries: [More…]
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Urge Aborigines to vote Liberal-Country-Party on December 13. [More…]
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The first is to encourage greater participation in elections in registered organisations by giving members a real opportunity to vote and by making it as easy as possible for members to vote. [More…]
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The second aim is to remove any deterrant to voting that might result from suspicion that elections conducted by the organisation are not, in fact, secret and that a vote against incumbent officials could result in victimisation. [More…]
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The petition of the undersigned citizens of Australia respectfully showeth that many Australians are concerned at the announced decision by the Australian Government to reduce the 1975-76 Overseas Development Assistance vote by $2 lm, and by the abolition of the Australian Development Assistance Agency. [More…]
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as a matter of urgency, reverse the decision to cut the 1975-76 Overseas Development Assistance vote, so as to ensure that the full amount appropriated by Parliament for Overseas Development Assistance is spent this financial year to meet the pressing needs of those in the developing countries; [More…]
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By way of preface, I remind the Minister that in the election held last weekend in Tasmania the Australian Labor Party candidate, being opposed by a previous Liberal Party Minister and a previous Liberal Party senator, obtained 57 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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Then, 18 months after that, when Medibank was in full flower, the Labor Party was thrown out of office by the largest vote which we have ever obtained in the history of this nation. [More…]
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Is it a fact that actually there was quite a large drop in the Labor vote in the seat compared with 6 years ago, which I think most people would take as an indication of the present support of the Liberal Party in Tasmania? [More…]
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The glaring fact which Mr Neilson overlooks is that the Australian Labor Party vote on Saturday was a drop of 36 per cent on its vote when the seat was last contested six years ago. [More…]
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It was based on the notion that if a higher percentage of members of trade unions were persuaded to vote they would not vote for militants. [More…]
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Am I not now entitled to ask the question whether perhaps 3 sieves would not be better than two or whether there should not be a further House imposed as a House of Review on top of the Senate, because only last year that 1.35 per cent levy was rejected by people like Senator Chaney, who is seeking to interject, who will come in here next week and vote for a 2.5 per cent levy. [More…]
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It is estimated that half the people in Australia will vote with their feet and opt out of Medibank. [More…]
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The petition of the undersigned citizens of Australia respectfully showeth that many Australians are concerned at the announced decision by the Commonwealth Government to reduce the 1975-76 Overseas Development Assistance vote by $21m and by the abolition of the Australian Development Assistance Agency. [More…]
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As a matter of urgency, reverse the decision to cut the 1975-76 Overseas Development Assistance vote so as to ensure that the full amount appropriated by Parliament for Overseas Development Assistance is spent this financial year to meet the pressing needs of those in the developing countries; [More…]
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This was a heavy charge on the defence vote in terms of the very limited contribution made by cadets to defence preparedness, including the community goodwill they created and interest in the Services by way of recruiting. [More…]
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This is stressed in our decision to adopt a common aim for all 3 organisations, which has been formulated bearing in mind the fact that the organisations will be funded from the defence vote, and that the public submissions received strongly favoured the maintenance of a military flavour in cadet activity. [More…]
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As I understand it, a vote is given to the Defence Department for the cost of running what is generally termed the VIP fleet. [More…]
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The vote in the Defence estimates is for the maintenance of that squadron. [More…]
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The repairs and maintenance- that is what the item is called in the vote- to those 4 structures were authorised by the previous Government, which allowed a sum of $122,800 in its Budget to carry out the work. [More…]
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As it is in the vote for the Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet I imagine that it must have been the previous Prime Minister who agreed that the repairs and maintenance which are being carried out at these 4 residences should be done. [More…]
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We know that the cost of the work for the 4 buildings is $139,800 or thereabouts, lt is fair enough that Senator McLaren should ask how much was spent on each of the 4 buildings because that is what the vote is for. [More…]
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Senator McLaren asked 3 specific questions in relation to that particular vote and I will obtain the answers for him as early as possible. [More…]
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I know it is a standard practice that under a department’s vote one can ask questions about any matter relating to that department. [More…]
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If there were in these estimates a vote of $1,000 or $100 or $ 1 for the River Murray Commission, Senator McLaren would be quite entitled to continue with his remarks. [More…]
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Where is the vote of the Parliament in this Bill which concerns the matter which the honourable senator raises? [More…]
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Let me say again with respect to the vote for the Department of Defence, having looked at it quickly I thought that a separate and absolute vote was provided for the operations of the VIP flight. [More…]
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It is money from the vote for the Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet which is paid to the [More…]
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I ask firstly whether the total vote has been adjusted in any way to meet these changes and decreases in the operations of the railways. [More…]
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The first question is this: Does the vote in any way reflect the decision of the Treasurer which was announced by the Minister for Industry and Commerce last week? [More…]
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I imagine that this vote does not reflect that. [More…]
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It is unlikely that that particular decision would have made any impact upon this particular vote but the Senate Hansard will have to be referred to. [More…]
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What I am asking firstly, is again whether the present vote in any way reflects or anticipates any cutback in the activities presently being carried out in respect of the construction of this line which was approved by agreement between the State and Commonwealth Governments and ratified by this Parliament. [More…]
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The other point I want to raise relates to the vote for administration. [More…]
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I believe that the vote of the Service is such that it does not permit the hiring of such counsel for the purpose of taking action, if it is thought desirable, on behalf of those who were wronged in that incident. [More…]
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They came from various parts of this year’s vote for the Northern Territory- local government, general welfare, transport and many other items. [More…]
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I notice further on in the vote for the Northern Territory that some extra funds had to be provided for the Police Force. [More…]
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In effect, the vote of $400,000 had to be made available by the Government to offset this loss which resulted, as has been plainly indicated by the officials, from union interference. [More…]
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Of course, it is difficult for any reasonable person to follow the procedures where expenditure under the Prime Minister’s Department perhaps should have appeared under the Department of Construction, or expenditure under the Department of Construction perhaps should have appeared under the vote for the Department of Defence. [More…]
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If honourable senators sitting on the Government side vote for this Bill, I suggest that they must accept responsibility for it. [More…]
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I believe that they will vote for it. [More…]
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If honourable senators on the Government side vote for it, then they must be agreeing with the tariff policies which were set out by the Labor Government in its last Budget. [More…]
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My contempt is for the self-seeking, short-sighted agropoliticians of the dairying industry and the vote-grubbing bush-whackers in our State and Federal Parliaments. [More…]
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These politicians would sooner have a multitude of struggling small farmers foolish enough to vote for them than relatively few prosperous farmers who might not vote for them or would be numerous enough to maintain their power base . [More…]
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The petition of the undersigned citizens of Australia respectfully showeth that many Australians are concerned at the announced decision by the Australian Government to reduce the 1975/76 Overseas Development Assistance vote by $21 million, and by the abolition of the Australian Development Assistance Agency. [More…]
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as a matter of urgency, reverse the decision to cut the 1975/76 Overseas Development Assistance vote, so as to ensure that the full amount appropriated by Parliament for Overseas Developent Assistance is spent this financial year to meet the pressing needs of those in the developing countries; [More…]
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For example, in the last election of a Commonwealth chairman of the Amalgamated Metal Workers Union, less than 2 per cent of the total membership exercised its prerogative to vote. [More…]
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There may in special circumstances be other methods of election in which all members would have an adequate opportunity to vote, the ballot would be conducted without intimidation, and it would result in a greater participation by members. [More…]
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Demand your vote against any legislation that interferes with present system. [More…]
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Senator Kathy Martin for once might come out of bond and vote according to her conscience and her conviction. [More…]
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It did not pick him out for the purpose of placing him in the category of those who have to come up for a secret postal vote. [More…]
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Mr Temporary Chairman, I suggest that the Senate vote on clauses 8, 9 and 10 together. [More…]
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Clause 1 1 we support but clauses 8, 9 and 10 we intend to vote against on the voices only. [More…]
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The ballots differed on only one thing and that was the number of people who voted. [More…]
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Those people who are eligible to vote can do so if they wish to. [More…]
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The non-voters in the union tacitly agree to accept the verdict of the voter as to the representation and, consequently, the policies on the strict understanding that the channels are kept open. [More…]
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They may exercise that vote if they feel there is the necessity as they have done in many other ballots. [More…]
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The non-voter accepts the situation as it is. [More…]
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The Opposition opposes these provisions in the legislation and will vote against them. [More…]
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We will vote against those provisions of the legislation. [More…]
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We will vote against it because it is unnecessary verbiage. [More…]
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I have indicated that the Opposition will vote against the provisions relating to representation by the Minister in appeals and references. [More…]
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We also will vote against the provision relating to ballots. [More…]
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We will not vote against the provision relating to the term of office of office bearers or organisations. [More…]
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We will not vote against the provision for the appointment of an extra judge to the Industrial Court. [More…]
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We would like very much to vote in favour of a much wiser policy in relation to that Court; but it is, of course, not available for us to do so in the context of this legislation. [More…]
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Every member of the organisation stops work, I gather, and is able to vote in the one location in a secret ballot. [More…]
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will afford to members entitled to vote an adequate opportunity of voting without intimidation. [More…]
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The concentration of union membership in those three or four specific areas would enable a vote to be taken quite simply, and probably without the implementation of the postal ballot. [More…]
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The purpose of the legislation surely is to establish a situation in which the rank and file unionist wherever he may be can vote according to his conscience without pressure of any kind from groups within or without. [More…]
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However, I recently noticed that the Amalgamated Metal Workers Union in electing its executive had 2 per cent of its membership vote. [More…]
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The Minister for Employment and Industrial Relations (Mr Street) in the House of Representatives had to amend the Bill to provide that all union members would have the ability to have a postal vote in union elections. [More…]
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The Bill as introduced did not define what a postal vote was. [More…]
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Reference is made in the Minister’s second reading speech to the elections of that union and the percentage of members who vote in those elections. [More…]
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Senator Donald Cameron also would remember a vote that was taken outside the secret ballot system at the factory of Chrysler Australia Limited last year. [More…]
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A vote was taken on the 35-hour working week and it was lost. [More…]
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It is not my intention to vote for the second reading of this Bill. [More…]
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Also it will get over the position of the Waterside Workers Federation of Australia which now gets a 93 per cent vote. [More…]
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For the benefit of new senators, I mention that these principles were debated at great length in both Houses of the last Parliament, and the Bill was extensively amended before being finally approved by a free vote of members on all sides. [More…]
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The fact is that the governments of France and West Germany have been elected by virtue of the dairy vote. [More…]
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Just because the agricultural industries, which produce 50 per cent of our exports, are down to 6 per cent of the vote the Opposition wants to ignore them and give them only the pickings, or a bit of sour milk, or the crumb of cheesecake. [More…]
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We intend to vote against the motion that the Bill be read a second time but shall not continue the argument any more. [More…]
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This rural vote buying by the Country Party dominated Government will be at the expense of many lives on Australian roads over the next 3 years. [More…]
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Might I say, firstly, in respect of the Family Law Amendment Bill that the Parliamentary Labor Party has considered this matter and decided, insofar as its members are concerned, that there should be a free vote on the Bill. [More…]
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As I have said, the Family Law Amendment Bill is a non-Party Bill and members of the Opposition are to be given a free vote on it. [More…]
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Therefore I wish to indicate that 1 am completely opposed to the maintenance of section 97 ( 1 ) of the Act and will seek to vote against it to register my opposition. [More…]
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It was announced in the Budget that the Aboriginal Affairs vote is some $33m less than the 1975-76 allocation and that part of this cut is in the Aboriginal Housing Association area. [More…]
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Against the background of the Whitlam Government of the past being kicked out by an overwhelming vote of the people on 13 December because it created the greatest unemployment since the Depression and the greatest inflation since the Depression, the Opposition has had the gall to come before the Senate today and say 2 things, and I want to examine them. [More…]
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The serious purpose of this Bill- I mention this because I would hate the Senate ever to vote on anything that all honourable senators did not understand- is to try to stop the transport of drugs of the kinds listed in the Schedule through Australia to other countries. [More…]
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It refers to an allegation made in the book Crash Through or Crash written by the Canberra journalist, Laurie Oakes, that during the Senate blockage of Supply last year Senator Hall and Senator Bunton had planned to call upon the Governor-General and request him to ask the Senate to vote upon the Appropriation Bills but were dissuaded from doing so by the Clerk of the Senate. [More…]
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The Government is opposed to the motion moved by Senator Douglas McClelland and will vote against it. [More…]
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Perhaps it might be stretching it a bit too far to say that a Minister of the Crown would necessarily support a Committee of the Senate and vote for the disallowance of his own motion, but I imagine that the only ones of my 36 colleagues in this place who would have stayed with me would have been my ministerial colleagues, out of respect for ministerial responsibility and collective responsibility and that the balance would have voted for the disallowance of the ordinance. [More…]
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When we come to a vote- as we will before long- we will not vote on what either side’s policy is on Cocos Island. [More…]
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We will vote on either side’s policy on the compulsory acquisition of property. [More…]
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It is also a vote on whether the unanimity and total support of the Senate Standing Committee on Regulations and Ordinances which for 44 years has enjoyed the respect and the support of all parties in the Senate are to be upheld. [More…]
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If Caucus is asking members to vote against their own consciences, I put it to the Senate that this must mean the eventual, total destruction of the committee system of the Parliament. [More…]
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The Government will vote against the motion moved by Senator Douglas McClelland. [More…]
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It does seem to me that, unless he does just that, after the vote is taken on this motion the indigenes of the Cocos (Keeling) Islands will be left in that backwater until the advent of a Labor government some time in the future, perhaps 1978. [More…]
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Without more ado, I feel we should proceed to a vote. [More…]
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He was so enthusiastic in his support of the Social Welfare Commission, particularly the way in which he saw it as a formidable critic of the Whitlam Government and its proposals, that I thought for a moment he was going to oppose the legislation before us tonight and vote for the retention of the Social Welfare Commission for that reason if for that alone. [More…]
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Do such grants come under the heading of the culture and recreation vote in the Budget? [More…]
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Can the Minister confirm that the Budget vote for cultural and reacreational outlays is the highest in Commonwealth Budget history? [More…]
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The honourable senator also asks whether such grants come under the heading of the culture and recreation vote in the Budget and I confirm that that is so. [More…]
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There was none of the namby-pamby business that the Labor Party has gone on with about one vote one value, about cows not voting and so on. [More…]
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I have heard no commentator today make the comment that what the leader of the Labor Party said last night was any sort of an alternative for the Australian people- even for those who are bound and determined to vote Labor in spite of the facts. [More…]
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Urge Aborigines to vote Liberal Country Party on 13 December. [More…]
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These were the carrots which were held out before the donkeys who vote in elections in Australia and who did so in December 1975, according to the view of the Government. [More…]
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The freedom to decide that people who could not vote could still be sent to Vietnam was reserved for the government of the day. [More…]
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He reported to the Prime Minister that the farmers were against the Government and would vote against the Government if an election were held today. [More…]
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How can people have resort in a ballot box when one man can throw the people’s elected government out of office and elect a man as Prime Minister of Australia and retain him after a vote of no confidence in that man has been passed in the people’s House of the Parliament of Australia? [More…]
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I referred firstly to the statement, which he has made consistently, that the previous Government cut $105m from the education vote. [More…]
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To add to this, the vote for the public relations section of the Department of the Northern Territory dropped $51,000 and that for the Northern Territory Reserves Board was cut by $359,000. [More…]
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There was none of the namby-pamby business that the Labor Party has gone on with about one vote one value, about cows not voting and so on. [More…]
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The vote for the Darwin Reconstruction Commission this year is $139m. [More…]
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They advocated a ‘no’ vote. [More…]
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A shadow Minister sent telegrams to these people saying: Give us your vote and there will be no reduction in expenditure’. [More…]
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Did we get any alternative strategy in this place last year when then Opposition senators went on strike and would not vote on the Budget? [More…]
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In the few seconds left to me I would like to point out that when the Labor Party won government in South Australia in 1965 it required 55.04 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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Yet it has been claimed over the years that under the new redistribution in South Australia the Liberals will have to get that percentage of the vote to gain office. [More…]
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After seeing how the Labor system worked out, the shambles which the Labor Government got itself into and the disputation that occurred, by a vote within the parliamentary Liberal Party- I think it was an almost unanimous vote- we abandoned that system and said that the proper way to conduct a party was to elect a leader, put full trust in him and let him select the Ministry. [More…]
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Mr Dunstan visited that area well recognising that it displayed a tremendous interest in returning a Liberal and National Country Party government at the last election, well recognising that the Liberal and Country Party vote in Leigh Creek was better than the Labor Party vote and recognising that the reputation of members of the Labor Party in that area was at an all-time low ebb. [More…]
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The ultimate inconsistency and hypocrisy displayed by the Government on this issue rests in the simple fact that the same senators- there are some marginal adjustments but overwhelmingly they are the same- who a little more that 12 months ago twice rejected a Bill to impose a 1.35 per cent levy to finance Medibank will, tonight or tomorrow when the vote is taken, vote to impose a very much higher levy. [More…]
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I do not know how he will vote on it. [More…]
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Apparently no one on the Government side can explain the gross contradiction and hypocrisy of honourable senators having voted against and vehemently opposed the imposition of a levy slightly more than half of the current levy a little more than 12 months ago and now meekly lining up to follow the instructions of the Liberal Party Leader in the House of Representatives as they always do and as Senator Withers has publicly admitted they do. [More…]
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They are meekly lining up like privates in the Army to vote for this legislation. [More…]
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If the motion is defeated, we will vote against the Bills here and in the Senate. [More…]
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I shall incorporate in Hansard at the end of my speech a list of the measures of an economic or financial nature, including taxation and appropriation Bills which have been opposed by this Opposition in whole or in part by a vote in the Senate since 1 950 ‘. [More…]
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If the motion is defeated, we will vote against the Bills here and in the Senate. [More…]
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In one he said of the Budget: ‘We will vote against the Bills here and in the Senate. [More…]
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We have increased the grant in the total vote. [More…]
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If honourable senators opposite do not want a contributory scheme for Medibank we will have to cut the vote for education and social welfare. [More…]
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I like his language- which had a clear mandate to vote against the Bills it is the senators from Queensland. [More…]
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Let us see whether Senator Sheil will vote to protect his State tonight and assist us with our amendment to this legislation. [More…]
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I hope that with the health Bills all Queensland senators will vote together, as they have been clearly instructed to do, and reject them. [More…]
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This evening I ask that before we vote on this amendment the Queensland senators consider the system that they know well in Queensland, consider what this legislation will mean to the Queensland people and to their free hospital system, and consider whether they should show that they do not support this levy on the people they represent. [More…]
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If a vote is necessary, I hope that the Senate will support that clause also. [More…]
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My response to Senator Tehan, who put out his hand and asked for co-operation, it to ask him to table a statutory declaration tonight to show that when the Labor Government sought power over wages and prices at a referendum he voted yes. [More…]
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If, as I suspect, he voted in the negative, he is receiving the same sort of co-operation. [More…]
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He was not a senator at the time but his Party was quite happy to make cheap political tricks by advocating a no vote. [More…]
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If the Electoral Act in Queensland was changed and there was no gerrymander, and members were elected on the basis of one vote one value, the Labor Party would have only 5 members. [More…]
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If it is done on the basis of one vote one value, the Labor Party will not get more than 5 members. [More…]
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He said after winning it: ‘I went in there knowing that I had only one vote ‘. [More…]
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I think we would all feel that that was characteristic of him because he often went in knowing that perhaps he had no votes at all but that he would win the argument. [More…]
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I hope that when we vote on the measure we will all be happy in the knowledge that this Advisory Council will be set up. [More…]
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I might add that it is not the Government ‘s intention to call this motion on for a vote before the first Tuesday of the next period of sittings, so it will not affect the times for the balance of this week. [More…]
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You should vote for the right persons.’ [More…]
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That contribution, however, demonstrated quite clearly why honourable senators on the Government side are not able to vote in favour of this motion of urgency because the speech by Senator Wriedt made it quite clear that he was not complaining about the conduct of the Commonwealth Government in any way. [More…]
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In my own State of South Australia the State Government has been endeavouring for a long time to have a common roll so that every person entitled to vote in a State or a Federal election is entitled to vote in local government elections. [More…]
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Unless you are a ratepayer you are unable to vote in local government elections or to stand for local government except when you have a property in joint ownership- that is, a property held by the husband and wife- and there is an anomaly there. [More…]
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Unless a person in my category makes an application to the local council to be put on to the voters’ roll he is deprived of a vote. [More…]
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I thought I would be included on the roll for the next election, but when I went to vote I was told: ‘No, you are not entitled to vote because you did not notify the council that you wanted to be on the roll’. [More…]
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So I was deprived of casting my vote. [More…]
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In other States, every person in the community over the age of 1 8 has the opportunity to stand for local government elections and to vote at such elections. [More…]
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I said that the Government in South Australia has tried to give every person over the age of 1 8 the right to stand for election to local government or to vote for the candidate of his choice at such elections. [More…]
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Shortly before the May by-election, about thirty members of our Group decided not to vote in protest at the handling of our case. [More…]
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After all, at 18 years of age they can vote. [More…]
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The Government did so in the hope that pensioners would forget all of the wrong things that it had done and vote for that Government on election day. [More…]
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Last year the coalition senators took the opportunity to use the Appropriation Bills as a vehicle to attack the Whitlam Government policy but because of the risk of some of their colleagues defecting they refused to vote on those Bills. [More…]
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I hope he would have but, as I pointed out, Mr President must have been party to the drawing up of this amendment and when the vote was.taken on it he supported it. [More…]
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Of course those same honourable senators, except for two of them who are not here now because they got the chopper when they sought endorsement, would have done the same thing with regard to the Appropriation Bills at this time last year had the then Opposition been prepared to let those Bills go to the vote. [More…]
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They were two of the senators who, it was rumoured around this Parliament House, would not vote for the refusal of those Appropriation Bills. [More…]
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It is well known that that is why the present Government was not prepared to let democracy prevail and put those Bills to a vote. [More…]
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I am sorry to have to relate that all of the Government Tasmanian senators, who claim on many occasions in this place that this is a State House in which they are prepared to defend the rights of the State they represent- the smallest State in this Commonwealth which sends 10 senators to Canberra to represent its people- voted, when a motion to gag that debate was moved half-way through the normally allotted time, to prevent Opposition senators from presenting a case on behalf of the Tasmanian people, particularly the unemployed people there. [More…]
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Those senators voted as a body to gag the debate. [More…]
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Not only did they vote to gag the Opposition, they also voted to gag themselves, because I understand that Senator Townley wanted to make some contribution to the debate. [More…]
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However, because of the Government’s decision, he had to vote to gag himself and could not present a case. [More…]
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Some Tasmanian senators might even have voted for an extension of time to put a stronger case. [More…]
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It had the full support of the Liberal Party when the matter went to a vote in the House of Assembly in South Australia. [More…]
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There was a unanimous vote in support of Monarto but because of the political implications that arose later the present State Opposition decided it would oppose Monarto. [More…]
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2), which was designed to vote the sum of $6,976m, has failed to do just that because of the attitude of the conservatives in this place, such as Senator Wright, who want to maintain the ability of the Senate to block Appropriation Bills. [More…]
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When I went further into the explanatory notes and the reasons being given by the officers it appeared that 25 additional positions were being created to carry out additional work within this area but the vote for the work in question was being reduced by $109,000. [More…]
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Rather than leave the old estimate which previously appeared to cover the additional work the vote in fact was reduced by $ 109,000. [More…]
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I would have done so too if I had been the candidate defeated by 854 votes, as I think the result was at that stage. [More…]
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Although Senator Baume says that only 10 000 votes changed hands, I think the system under which we are operating needs an overhaul. [More…]
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The 10 000 votes to which Senator Baume referred were nearly all additional informal votes. [More…]
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Approximately 4500 votes were taken from the Liberal-Country Party total, 3600 were taken from the Australian Labor Party and 300 were taken from the Socialist Workers League which had been the recipient of the donkey vote. [More…]
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I submit that actually many more votes changed hands. [More…]
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It shows that in the recount it was found that votes had been credited to the wrong candidates. [More…]
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I had scrutineers ringing me up and saying that a bundle of 50 or 100 votes credited to the LiberalCountry Party should have been mine, and vice versa. [More…]
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As I said, many more than 10 000 votes were involved. [More…]
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Also when we are talking about 10 000 informal votes that were wiped out, we have to consider that scrutineers reported that many informal votes that originally were put out of the ballot were then put back into the ballot. [More…]
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When we consider that the final vote which elected the last senator, who happened to be myself, showed a majority of 2016, those 10 000 plus votes tend to assume rather critical significance. [More…]
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I submit again that if the votes were recounted today the totals would probably be altered because of the near impossible task given to the officials of the Australian Electoral Office in scrutinising the votes of 53 candidates in the Senate election in 1975 and, perhaps even worse, the votes for 73 candidates who stood for New South Wales in 1 974.I think it should be mentioned also that because there was a complete recount there was also a new random sample. [More…]
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Again I submit that even if not one additional informal vote had been found, if not one wrong vote had been found credited to any candidate, the result must have been different because of our system of counting with random sample. [More…]
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If we look at the donkey vote and at those statistics, we find that 22 230 votes drifted directly across to the Liberal Party. [More…]
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But in fact the drift was much more than that because 2302 votes went to the Family Action Movement, 474 went to the Democratic Labor Party and 233 went to the Workers Party. [More…]
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This meant that the donkey vote was over 25 000 in New South Wales at that last election. [More…]
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I think one can reliably conclude from this evidence that at least 25 000 of the voters in New South Wales at the last Senate poll were intent on and serious about filling out their ballot paper but saw a lengthy and confusing ballot paper placed in front of them and tried to fill it out as quickly as possible and still comply with the Electoral Act. [More…]
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They did not have any real desire to vote for the Socialist Workers League; they just wanted to fill out that ballot paper. [More…]
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As I said, perhaps 25 000 people voted in that way. [More…]
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But from scrutineers’ reports I have received it appears that supporters of both major parties, that is, the LiberalCountry Party and the Australian Labor Party, made serious mistakes on the allocation of preferences on their ballot papers with the result that the donkey vote was much more than 25 000. [More…]
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My scrutineers reported that some hundreds, possibly thousands, of people in New South Wales went down the House of Representatives side of the ticket and then went to the Senate side, making their vote informal. [More…]
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This cost the Government Parties thousands of votes. [More…]
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If we go for an optional preferential system I think we would reduce the informal vote which the figures show amounted to 9.7 per cent. [More…]
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The vast number of informal votes I have talked about did show a clear intention to vote for one party or the other. [More…]
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Those voters, I feel, were disqualified unnecessarily. [More…]
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They show the names of parties on the ballot paper and therefore cut the informal vote. [More…]
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Again I do not want to dwell on what is happening in the United States of America today but it is an example of how millions of votes can be computed quickly. [More…]
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I raise this issue because of my concern about the cost involved in not only a recheck but also a recount of the Senate vote. [More…]
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I feel that the present system becomes so complicated that it is not understood by the vast majority of voters or, for the reasons I have stated, becomes something of a lottery in a close contest. [More…]
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The CHAIRMAN (Senator DrakeBrockman) The Committee is considering the vote for the Department of Administrative Services. [More…]
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We are not going to vote money to be wasted in this way. [More…]
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Before the final vote on this Bill is taken he still has the opportunity to move that it be returned to the House of Representatives. [More…]
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I will not go so far as to do what Senator Wright threatened to do last night and vote to send the Bills back to the House of Representatives. [More…]
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I wish to comment on some of his statements last night when speaking on this vote about the Tarcoola-Alice Springs railway. [More…]
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Senator Kilgariff has been dealing with a subject which is not really concerned with the vote under consideration. [More…]
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So I ask Senator Kilgariff to wind up his remarks and to try to confine them to the vote under consideration. [More…]
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Although he had been asked to confine his remarks to the vote under consideration, he was then allowed to continue to talk on this subject. [More…]
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I referred to one of them last night, but it is of such importance that I want to refer to it in the course of the consideration of the vote before the Committee. [More…]
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I feel that it is not good enough for us to be asked to vote money for a department that can so calmly and negligently be party to an expenditure of $93,000 to be consigned to the wastepaper basket. [More…]
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Senator Wright asks: Surely we as a Parliament are not asked to pass this vote when there has been such a waste of money. [More…]
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We should not be asked to pass the vote. [More…]
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In reply to what Senator Cavanagh said, I recall to his mind that the leader of his own party, Mr Whitlam, stated as Leader of the Opposition in the House of Representatives that the Opposition would vote against the Government on a Supply Bill, that if it did not win there it would vote against it in the Senate and that if it were defeated in the Senate- he thought that Labor would have the support of the Democratic Labor Party on that occasion because of criticism that it had offeredthe Government would be forced to resign. [More…]
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Perhaps I can ask the Minister to look at the travel vote within the Australia Council, because my information is that in 1975-76 the Council met with severe difficulties regarding travel expenses. [More…]
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Apparently it had spent more than the vote. [More…]
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It is up to Senator Wright to endeavour to send them back to the House of Representatives when we vote on them. [More…]
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He should put his vote where his mouth has been in this debate. [More…]
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In 1973, the then Minister for Labor, the Honourable Clyde Cameron, introduced amendments to the Conciliation and Arbitration Act which had the effect of requiring the election of the holder of each office in an organisation by direct vote of the appropriate section of the membership. [More…]
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An exception from this requirement was permitted in relation to those offices of a part-time nature on an organisation’s federal committee of management where the rules of the organisation provided, before the commencement of the amendment, a form of election other than by direct vote. [More…]
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Offices, the duties of which are full time in nature, may be elected by direct vote of the appropriate section of the rank and file. [More…]
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Alternatively, the organisation may choose a one-tier collegiate system, that is, a system whereby a conference or council is elected by direct vote of the appropriate section of the rank and file membership and that conference or council elects from its members the full-time officers. [More…]
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In relation to offices, the duties of which are not full time in nature, the position whereby organisations may adopt a direct election, onetier or a multiple-tier system of collegiate election, for example, a system whereby the conference or council which is elected by direct vote may elect from its members another body which then elects from its members the part time officers, will be restored. [More…]
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In both cases, there is a directness, or nexus, between the exercise of the individual member’s vote and the election of full-time officers, to make effective participation by individual members a reality. [More…]
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We have given a total vote. [More…]
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In the Estimates Committee evidence was given which related to the advertising component of the publicity vote for 1975-76. [More…]
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That, in the event of an equality of voting, the Chairman, or the Deputy-Chairman when acting as Chairman, have a casting vote. [More…]
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I want to know where this sum of $29m is to be spent, and I want the information in detail; otherwise I am prepared to vote against this appropriation. [More…]
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I am not prepared to vote for this appropriation until such time as I get the information. [More…]
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They will not need the Governor-General to dismiss them when their turn comes: The people will dismiss the Government with a 60 per cent vote the other way. [More…]
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That, in the event of an equality of voting, the Chairman, or the Deputy-Chairman when acting as Chairman, have a casting vote. [More…]
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I wish to make brief reference to one component of this vote for $600,000. [More…]
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Therefore the Committee reported that it was of the opinion that there was every justification for reducing this vote by $600,000, on the basis that $300,000 was for consultancy work which would be done by the Department of Construction and so relieving the necessity for that liability, and that the other half of the $600,000 was premature inasmuch as no judgment has yet been entered in regard to the writ to which I have referred. [More…]
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His remarks today were rather moderate, in direct contrast to the remarks he made in this chamber last Wednesday when, if my memory is correct, he stated that this vote should be returned to its place of origin for reconsideration. [More…]
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There was quite a lot of publicity in the Press to the effect that 16 Government senators were going to support Senator Wright in moving to have this particular vote returned to its place of origin for reconsideration. [More…]
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He said that there was every justification for reducing this vote by $600,000. [More…]
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To tie them up I have to relate them back to Senator Wright’s attitude in this chamber last Wednesday when he tried to convince this chamber that he had the numbers to return this vote to the other place for reconsideration. [More…]
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The vote is a difficult one inasmuch as I see no alternative. [More…]
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It simply goes into the bloc vote of the National Capital Development Commission and, therefore, has no upper limit that is authorised. [More…]
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With regard to the escalation of costs as to particular items both in the Darwin Reconstruction Commission, which has a bloc vote, and the National Capital Development Commission, which has a bloc vote, it may be taken into account in discount of the tedium that I have inflicted on the Committee that we take some credit for having handspiked out of these bloc votes particular items that do demand scrutiny. [More…]
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A vote beginning at $13m, increasing at this stage to $26 m or $27m- and before it is finished I will guarantee it will be $35m- is an excellent illustration of unpardonable waste of people’s money. [More…]
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Senator Wright suggested that because the Committee approved of a project costing $ 13m, when it is discovered that the cost will escalate and be much more the approval to proceed comes when we vote the additional appropriation for the project. [More…]
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Of course if we did not vote the additional amount at what stage of the construction, after having spent $13m, would the project cease? [More…]
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With regard to the question of union elections, the present system of voting for office holders is by direct vote of members of the union in respect of the election of full time officials. [More…]
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It is interesting to note that in 1973 when the Labor Government introduced the legislation providing for direct election of officials, it was not voted against or opposed by the then Opposition which now finds it a subject of condemnation and necessarily requiring change in the year 1976. [More…]
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It has been followed in this legislation by providing in 3 circumstances for the election of full-time office bearers, a system whereby a union can decide upon a direct vote, or through a one-tier collegiate voting system. [More…]
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This Government proposes to reintroduce the collegiate system for the election of officers as an alternative to the direct vote of the total membership. [More…]
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One should look at the Waterside Workers Federation of Australia, for example, and at the percentage of members who vote in that union’s elections. [More…]
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Previously a union member who wanted a vote had to apply for a ballot-paper and prove that he could not attend the meeting where the voting was to take place, with the result that some elections for the New South Wales branch were held and decided by under 200 members, not under Electoral Office control. [More…]
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In 1973 the union changed its rules at a federal level under the legislation that was brought in by the Labor Government, and now all paid federal officials are voted for in a rank and file Australia-wide ballot. [More…]
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It seems to me that while we in Australia in particular support the direct vote in electing those who are to represent us in our various organisations, we do believe that there is probably a reasonable case for establishing some measure of collegiate system. [More…]
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Consequently it seems that from the point of view of the far flung smaller branches and from the point of view of trade union members in the smaller States there is perhaps a case worth considering for instituting what we have suggested should be a one-tier collegiate system of voting under which a college is elected by a total vote of the grass roots membership of the organisation. [More…]
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It is because I doubt that it should be expected there would be no monolithic trade union view that I suggest that the legislation that is before us, with its flexibility, with its concern that every trade unionist in Australia should have a right and proper capacity to register his vote for the person who wants to lead him is a reasonable and proper adjunct to the Australian industrial relations scene and I have pleasure in supporting it. [More…]
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I would like to point out that where elections were conducted on the job at stop work meetings held for that purpose absent members were entitled to apply for an absentee postal vote. [More…]
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Some of Australia’s most powerful unions are now controlled by officials who have gained their positions as a result of election at which only a very small percentage of members entitled to vote did in fact cast their vote. [More…]
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The effect of that 1973 legislation was to require rank and file voting by all members of the union to enable them to vote directly for the office bearers of the organisations. [More…]
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These choices are: The full-time office bearers may be elected by either a direct vote of the rank and file members of the union or, alternatively, by a one-tier collegiate electoral system. [More…]
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The collegiate system is a system whereby the separate branches vote for members of a collegiate or council. [More…]
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Following that election, the collegiate or council then vote for the office bearers. [More…]
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The collegiate system is very similar to our parliamentary system whereby the people of Australia vote for members of parliament and then the members of the Liberal and National Country Party vote for their Prime Minister and a similar practice is adopted by the Labor Party. [More…]
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The Australian people vote for the Labor Party members and then the members of caucus vote for their leader and for their shadow Cabinet. [More…]
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Given a vote in the collegiate system, the ordinary rank and file member can vote for someone in whom he has faith and who can then go to the college or council and place a vote that he feels would be for the betterment of Tasmania. [More…]
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The amendment is to ensure that the president or the secretary or the rest of the executive at the next election who, because they have not a State behind them at that stage, so are not able to be voted for by the rank and file, are permitted to re-stand without the rank and file vote. [More…]
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If they fail to have the confidence ofthe college, they are out, and a vote is taken, the president, secretary and the members of the executive are elected by the college which in turn is elected by the rank and file. [More…]
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I say that without the unanimous vote of that organisation we would not have seen the visit of the USS Enterprise into that State. [More…]
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A delegate from Tasmania is elected by a direct vote from that State to the federal council. [More…]
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The facts are that apart from unions which have compulsory voting and which impose fines on members who do not vote, such as the Waterside Workers Federation of Australia, unions with a direct system of voting have a lower rank and file return of ballot papers than unions with a collegiate voting system. [More…]
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But if I were inefficient I would certainly fear a collegiate system under which the people who voted for me knew my true worth. [More…]
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The Branch Council of my Branch in Queensland, which is the governing body of this Branch, recently by 1 3 votes to 1 removed a National Civic Council Federal Councillor and replaced her with a non-party person. [More…]
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Despite the wishes of the governing body of the Branch, she was allowed to vote and then to nominate to be a Vice President from the Branch against the wishes of the Branch. [More…]
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The branch supported myself, a member of the Liberal Party, but the National Civic Council forces secured their maximum vote including the removed councillor and including 4 officers and defeated my candidature. [More…]
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The State council, by a vote of 13 to one, lost confidence in the individual. [More…]
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If the numbers are getting close and the possibility of losing an election were close, anybody would be off to a pretty good start if he had a 15 per cent stop vote. [More…]
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It would be impossible to remove either of our political parties from power if they were given a head start of 15 per cent of the votes. [More…]
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Under the present system Mr Maynes’ position may become challengeable, but with the assistance of the 15 per cent vote he is now secure for the rest of his life. [More…]
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It provides for the 15 per cent vote. [More…]
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His conduct not only deprived the member of his vote but was a fraudulent interference in the election. [More…]
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If the leadership happens to be irresponsible, these members ought to go along and vote at their union elections and see that the union leaders are replaced with people who have their interests at heart. [More…]
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The general rule of one man one vote is accepted throughout this country. [More…]
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There has been some prolonged criticism in the chamber of the collegiate system, as if the collegiate system gives the opportunity to some union members to dismantle the most democratic one vote one value system in the union movement. [More…]
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That union had 15 000-odd members on its roll who could vote. [More…]
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Only 157 of them voted, which represented just under 1 per cent. [More…]
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When one per cent of 15 000 people vote in an election one can understand how easy it is for them to maintain those positions. [More…]
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I ask honourable senators opposite to consider when the vote is taken what their responsibility is and to take some positive action about it. [More…]
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He said that an organiser was elected by a vote of one per cent of the 15 000 members of the union. [More…]
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For instance, Mr Maynes, the Federal President of the Federated Clerks Union, was elected to his position with a majority of the vote of the members of its Federal Council. [More…]
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The union of which I have been a member for many years elects all its full time officers by a direct vote of the rank and file. [More…]
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Most of the bigger trade unions, such as the Amalgamated Metal Workers Union, also elect all their full time officers by a direct vote of the rank and file members. [More…]
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In that situation we would be reversing the trend of giving rank and file membership a direct vote in electing the full time officials of the union. [More…]
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Provided the rank and file members have a direct vote in the election of all their full-time officers to the Federal council, executive or college, we do not disagree with that body having the right to elect part-time officers. [More…]
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The rank and file must vote. [More…]
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It will be a fully democratic vote. [More…]
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There is no suggestion that under this system the democratic right of a postal vote will be denied to the mass of members of a union. [More…]
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Under the collegiate system of voting do all members of the college have to be elected by a direct rank and file vote of members? [More…]
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lt will be interesting to see if and when this happens, how the self-professed States-righters will vote. [More…]
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It will be interesting to see whether any of them stand up and vote according to the interests of their States or whether they continue with their established habit of following the orders of the Liberal Party Leader in the House of Representatives. [More…]
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As Senator Scott has spoken in this debate, since the question of new federalism was a central, if not the central, issue in the New South Wales election which was held on 1 May and which much to the consternation of the Liberal Party resulted in the defeat of the then Liberal Government and the election of a Labor Government which was campaigning vigorously against the new federalism, and since I understand that Senator Scott has received a telegram from the Premier of that State asking him to vote against this Bill- given that on 1 May the people of New South Wales also voted against this legislation- it will be interesting to see how Senator Scott votes on this Bill. [More…]
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This Bill, which the Opposition will vote against if it is consistent, does these things: It sets aside an amount of 1.52 per cent of personal income tax. [More…]
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I make it clear that the Bill, against which the Opposition will vote, incorporates the policies that the federal body of the Local Government Associations enshrines in its policies and platforms. [More…]
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It is significant that the Government has not had one objection from local government at any level to this Bill which the Labor Party will attempt to vote out. [More…]
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As the Commonwealth Government is involved in making moneys available to the State governments, surely Senator Carrick can give the Senate an undertaking that he will use everything within his power to prevail upon members of his own Party in the South Australian Parliament to agree to allow legislation to be passed so that every person over the age of 18 years who is entitled to be on the common roll, as people are in States such as Queensland, will have the opportunity to vote for councillors, aldermen and mayors and the opportunity also of being candidates for these positions in the State. [More…]
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He did not give me a full answer on the main question I posed, which was: Would he take action to ensure that members of his Party in South Australia would make some attempt to ensure that all persons over the age of 18 years had the right to vote in local government elections and to stand as candidates for local government? [More…]
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In that State every person over the age of eighteen years has the right to vote and the right to stand as a candidate. [More…]
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In the Legislative Council in South Australia half of the Upper House has been elected on a restricted franchise- that is, every person did not have the right to vote for its members because they have been there so long. [More…]
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Until that legislation is passed in South Australia we will not be equally represented on the State Grants Commission, nor will the Premier or the Minister for Local Government, Mr Virgo, have the opportuntly to select someone who has been elected by all the people in the State who are entitled to vote, as is the case in Queensland where every person over the age of eighteen has the right to vote. [More…]
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-Is the Minister representing the Prime Minister aware that in less than 24 hours the United Nations will vote on a resolution reaffirming strong support for [More…]
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I will obtain for the honourable senator information as to whether Australia will be voting- I think the vote will be on Friday of this week- yes or no, or abstaining. [More…]
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In view of this vote on a resolution calling for the right of selfdetermination of the people of East Timor, can the Minister explain the current Australian policy? [More…]
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The Fourth Committee of the United Nations has now voted on a resolution on Timor. [More…]
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Australia did abstain in the vote. [More…]
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The reasons for our abstention were given in an explanation of our vote by the Australian delegation. [More…]
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I recall that we called many quorums on that night and Government supporters were bringing their geriatric colleagues into the chamber in wheelchairs so that they could vote. [More…]
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I take it that when the Bills are put to the vote the first Bill to which we are speaking will be taken on its own. [More…]
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I am always interested when members of the Australian Labor Party ask: ‘Are you going to vote against your own Government?’ [More…]
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I have never noticed one member of the Opposition who despite his doubts and so forth has never voted against his Party line. [More…]
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He seemed to be trying to establish that he had a very hairy chest and was willing to stand up and vote against or oppose in this Senate anything that his Party proposed if he thought it was unwise, and so on. [More…]
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If that is really true, I wonder why he has voted against his Party so infrequently and never on an issue that was of any importance. [More…]
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In signing that pledge we are required to vote on any issue before the Parliament according to the majority decision of a properly constituted Caucus meeting. [More…]
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What some members of the Liberal and National Country Parties try to do is to assert that the Senate is a States House, an independent House of review, where their vote is governed not by the dictates of their Party but by the welfare of their States and the dictates of their own conscience. [More…]
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On 17 July 1974, in a letter published in the Australian, their Leader said that every member of the Liberal Party was bound to vote in accordance with the decisions of the entire parliamentary party. [More…]
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Senate we vote in accordance with Caucus decisions. [More…]
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Now, incredibly the Opposition will vote against this Bill because it does not like the way the Government is getting vehicular traffic moving. [More…]
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We are going to witness a vote of protest on this Bill which of course does something about Aboriginal sacred sites. [More…]
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With certain exceptions every adult Aboriginal resident of a reserve is eligible for nomination and election to a council and is qualified to vote at an election. [More…]
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Particularly in Victorian dairy areas, they will vote ALP in my opinion- ‘ [More…]
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Of course, in my opinion the people will vote ALP in the Riverland district at the next State election. [More…]
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Given that undeniable and undenied fact I would expect the self-proclaimed disciples of States’ rights who populate the Liberal-Country Party benches in the Senate to vote for this amendment which has been moved by Senator Douglas McClelland. [More…]
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Despite the continual grandstanding and continual allegations of members of the Liberal and National Country Parties who sit across the chamber that they represent their States in this House and that this is a States’ House, I do not expect that even one of them will have the courage to come over here and vote with the Opposition for this amendment. [More…]
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One of the proudest moments of my life was when I came out of the Darwin Court House and cattlemen who would always vote for the National Country Party said to me: ‘Senator, we admired you for taking on the Atomic Energy Commission’. [More…]
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Senator Webster will nod his head and say: ‘Well, that was certainly a proud moment when National Country Party voters eulogised Australian Labor Party senators for standing up to these wicked men who comprise the uranium mining lobby’. [More…]
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A number of different parliamentary approaches can be adopted, ranging from select committees of each or both houses to the process of a free vote. [More…]
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It did not vote against it. [More…]
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Vote Liberal and National Country Party on 1 3 December for new deal for Aboriginal people. [More…]
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Vote Liberal and National Country Party on December 1 3th for new deal for Aboriginal people. [More…]
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I hope that when the time comes for a vote on the amendments on this matter of need honourable senators opposite will reconsider their position and judge that need is at least as important a basis for a claim as tradition. [More…]
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Secondly, do they not support the suggestion that the Australian Government should reconsider its abstention from voting on East Timor in the recent committee vote in the United Nations and that [More…]
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Australia should vote affirmatively on the resolution when it comes before the General Assembly later this month? [More…]
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I say to Senator Cavanagh that, in that 5Vi years, I have never seen one member of the Australian Labor Party vote against his Party. [More…]
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I trust that at least some honourable senators opposite will take into consideration what has already occurred in this debate and that they will take great care when they cast their vote, because the Aboriginals and the people of Australia will be watching them. [More…]
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It may be appropriate even to have a vote on those Bills and to clear them from the notice paper before proceeding to the Aboriginal Land Rights (Northern Territory) Bill because there will be a lengthy Committee debate on that Bill. [More…]
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Be they black or white, they cast their vote, and the majority of them cast their vote in my favour, and that is why I am here. [More…]
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There is the amendment the Opposition has just lost, the one we are currently debating and another one which I will be moving directly after this vote is taken. [More…]
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If they are not prepared to vote for this amendment, obviously they do not care what happens. [More…]
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We are not trying to say to anybody: ‘Leave your Party and cross the floor and vote with us’, All we are saying, in a very reasonable way, is: ‘These sorts of amendments are not going to bankrupt your Government. [More…]
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It has always been ruled that to alter the order of government business there had to be an absolute majority vote. [More…]
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Of course if leave is granted the motion can be agreed to on the majority vote of those who are present. [More…]
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Usually, on the Senate Standing Committee on Regulations and Ordinances, for example, there are normally 4 members of the Government forces who feel in duty bound, in accordance with their allegiance to the Government, to vote against a proposal from the Opposition. [More…]
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I suggest that those honourable senators opposite who really want to protect the rights of Aborigines should vote for this amendment and the next three or four amendments because they are at the very crux of the matter. [More…]
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Where a resolution referred to in sub-section (6) is moved, the Chairman shall endeavour to reconcile any conflicts of opinion among the other members of the Committee but the Chairman shall not vote on that unless the voting of the other members is equal and, in that event, the Chairman has a casting vote. [More…]
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We now move to the final vote on the amendments that have been moved by the Opposition. [More…]
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We as a worker group caucused and, having caucused, we expected the Russian worker delegate to vote in accordance with the caucus decision and in support of the principle of co-operatives rather than collectives. [More…]
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In the event, he voted in the ILO with the Russian employer delegates to delete the word ‘cooperative’ and insert the word ‘collective’. [More…]
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If so, (a) how did the Australian delegation vote on the recent decision by the Committee to censure the United States of America for maintaining military installations in Guam and to reaffirm the right of the preople of Guam to self-determination and independence, and (b) what were the reasons for the Australian delegation adopting the line it did. [More…]
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A draft resolution on Guam was adopted in the Fourth Committee of the General Assembly on 25 November by a vote of 60 in favour, 21 against and with 42 abstentions, and in a plenary meeting of the General Assembly by a vote of 6 1 in favour, 22 against with 42 abstentions. [More…]
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Both in the Assembly and in the Fourth Committee Australia voted against the resolution. [More…]
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-It is no use Senator Walsh interrupting because what will happen on Saturday is that the Leader of the Opposition in Western Australia, who has the support of 6.7 per cent of the population, will get a vote of about that size. [More…]
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1 vote, please’. [More…]
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He will see that all my colleagues will vote for my legislation in this place and in the other place. [More…]
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I can remember speaking to him in the election campaign in 1975 and he said to me, “If you vote for Whitlam you will end up with higher unemployment, higher interest rates and higher inflation.” [More…]
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I voted for Mr Whitlam’, the lady said, ‘Whitlam did not win but Mr Fraser was right. [More…]
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It is frightened of what the electors will do when they have the opportunity to cast a vote to show what they think of what this Government has done. [More…]
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I am glad to say that my colleagues and I, against the most strenuous and devious manoeuvres of the 3 senators who at that time, with the casting majority vote of the chairman, represented the Government, managed to get our report on the record. [More…]
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Australian Capital Territory and the Northern Territory a vote in future referendums. [More…]
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The purpose of this Bill is to give electors in the Australian Capital Territory and the Northern Territory the right to vote in referendums for the alteration of the Constitution. [More…]
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At present a proposed law for the alteration of the Constitution must be submitted in each State for the approval of the electors qualified to vote for the House of Representatives. [More…]
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The proposal must be passed by a majority of all the electors voting in the referendum and it must also be passed by a majority of votes in a majority of States. [More…]
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The amendment provided for in the Bill will require a proposed law for the alteration of the Constitution to be submitted to all electors qualified to vote for the House of Representatives. [More…]
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The amendment will affect the operation of the first of the double majority requirements I have mentioned, that is, the requirement that there be a majority vote of all the electors. [More…]
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That majority will now take account of the votes of electors who are resident in the Australian Capital Territory and the Northern Territory. [More…]
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The proposed amendment will not, however, affect the second majority requirement I have mentioned, that is the requirement that a proposal for amendment of the Constitution must be passed by a majority vote in a majority of States. [More…]
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The proposal to give electors in the Australian Capital Territory and the Northern Territory a vote in constitutional referendums was also the first item on the agenda of the meeting of the Australian Constitutional Convention in Hobart last year and was overwhelmingly endorsed by that Convention. [More…]
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It may come as a surprise to many Australians that electors who are resident in the Territories are not at present entitled to vote in constitutional referendums. [More…]
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In principle, the proposition that all electors of the Federal Parliament ought to be entitled to vote in referendums cannot be open to challenge. [More…]
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It was then, however, linked with a proposal that section 128 of the Constitution should be amended to allow changes to the Constitution if a majority of voters in only 3 States agreed to the alteration instead of a majority of voters in a majority of States, as the Constitution now provides. [More…]
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The indications from the Hobart meeting of the Australian Constitutional Convention are that the proposal that Territory electors should be given a vote in referendums has overwhelming support. [More…]
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As to the fourth question, under the laws which provide for the conduct of a referendum on Norfolk Island every elector is entitled to vote and voting is by secret ballot. [More…]
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Standing order 242 is the means by which the community may be informed of the varying opinions held by senators- not by leaks or statements made outside the Parliament, but by genuine debate within the Parliament and a period for digesting between that debate and the final vote on the matter. [More…]
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I for one will not vote for the motion for the suspension of this standing order. [More…]
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There will be time then for members of the public to debate the issues presented to them and to make up their minds as to which way they will vote on those issues. [More…]
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Ordinarily I would not support a motion to arrange the business of the Senate so as to have broadcasting facilities available but ordinary business of the Senate does not involve the people in a vote. [More…]
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When we have a referendum of the people, candid attitudes on the part of the Parliament seem to make it prudent and fair that the debates which take place in Parliament can be listened to by those members of the public who will have a duty to vote if the Bills are passed and if the Government goes on. [More…]
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I think there was one speech on Wednesday, a few on Thursday and a unanimous vote on two of the proposals which specially concern the Senate. [More…]
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When we have the situation where people are to vote on this matter- if the Government is supported by the vast majority in this place- when the debate in this place has special responsibilities because now the Senate is challenged as to its powers, authorities and responsibilities, and when the Government which is proposing these measures 2 years ago called them a fraud, then in a unique situation of Senate responsibility and for the elucidation of the allegations as to whether it was fraud, why not let the people hear what we have to say on each of these matters? [More…]
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However, what will most confuse the members of the public is what they were told by the Liberal and National Country parties in 1 974, that is, that in putting up the Bill the then Government was being deceitful and that the question they were to vote on did not explain the real proposed law. [More…]
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This is a matter upon which people have to vote, and the honourable senator made an important point. [More…]
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The innocent abroad, the elector who is expected to cast an intelligent vote in relation to these matters and to differentiate between what he wants and what he does not want by way of constitutional change, would expect to find any provision in relation to casual vacancies in the Senate in a Bill entitled Constitution Alteration (Senate Casual Vacancies) Bill 1977. [More…]
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Because of the problems that members in this Parliament have in serving country areas the Remuneration Tribunal has recommended, and this Parliament has determined by vote, that people who represent country electorates, be they Liberal Party members, National Country Party members or Labor Party members, are entitled to additional services, and emolument by way of allowance if you like, over and above those enjoyed by members who represent city or smaller electorates. [More…]
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Honourable senators from the National Country Party of Australia argued today that, because some area did not have a television station, because someone could not listen to radio, or because there was an inadequate road in an area, those people so affected were entitled to have a higher quality vote in Federal elections. [More…]
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We believe that that situation destroys the principle of one vote, one value. [More…]
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I suggest that because that situation could well arise the Government is virtually destroying the principle it was intended to embody within the 10 per cent variant, that is, the general overall principle of one vote, one value. [More…]
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We do not believe that we can allow a watering down of that general, overall principle which more than ever effectively introduced for the first time as near as was humanly possible the principle of one vote, one value. [More…]
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We do not know the number of candidates, the number of voters, how the voters will vote or how long it will take for the count to be carried out. [More…]
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It was an unfair election as the principle of one vote, one value, did not apply. [More…]
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If the first past the post system was in operation, after a person had voted for the first half dozen candidates of his choice the tendency would be to fill in the ballot paper for the remainder by starting from the top of the paper. [More…]
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One can imagine the possibility of obtaining a large formal vote in those circumstances. [More…]
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If the solution were the proportional representation system of voting, it would mean that less than 3 per cent of the vote would be the quota in New South Wales, and that would mean that there could be someone in this Parliament who had the support of only 3 per cent of the voters in New South Wales. [More…]
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The situation would then arise whereby the Festival of Light, other church interests or any other group would have representation because they would be able to command the support of 3 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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I come now to the point that Senator Cavanagh just raised, that is, that if the same sort of system were used as the one that is used to elect senators to this chamber there would be a system in New South Wales under which somebody could be elected to the House of Representatives with under 3 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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But even if there were to be a proviso in the Commonwealth Electoral Act like the one that operates in West Germany, whereby a candidate has to get 5 per cent of the vote before he is recognised as having won a seat, the situation would still arise in New South Wales where, whether it be for 43, 44 or 45 seats, it would be completely impossible to count the ballot. [More…]
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I also appreciate the problems that Senator Cavanagh has quite rightly pointed out of a Senate-type proportional vote for the House of Representatives. [More…]
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The government in the other place, no matter who got the bulk of the votes, would be at the mercy of all sorts of interesting people. [More…]
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Look at the length of time it took to count the Senate vote. [More…]
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He will see that all my colleagues will vote for my legislation in this place and in the other place. [More…]
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The argument used to be that, because a person lived in the bush where the means of communication were difficult and consequently the greater was the hardship, the vote of that person should be more valuable. [More…]
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While, at all times, the Labor Party adopts the principle of equal value for votes, the problem is that those who, through economic circumstances, have moved to outer urban areas now lack many essential services such as sewerage, adequate roads, safe and efficient public transport services, reasonable rates and suitable houses. [More…]
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The commissioners to be appointed will have a tremendous responsibility because it will be up to them to make recommendations which will ensure that when the election is held the party which gets the greatest number of votes or the greatest percentage of votes also gets the greatest number of seats. [More…]
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Invariably we have had to get 52 per cent or 53 per cent of the vote before we could form a government. [More…]
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Voters could have as many as 300 or 400 candidates or even more from whom to choose. [More…]
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Would a voter have to number every square on the ballot paper in order to record a formal vote? [More…]
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My Party, the Australian Labor Party, received 42.8 per cent of the vote but got only 36 members in the House of Representatives. [More…]
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Each candidate elected needed nearly 92 000 primary votes. [More…]
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The Liberal Party of Australia got approximately 42 per cent of the vote and sixty-eight of its members were elected to the House of Representatives on a basis of 47 000 votes per member elected. [More…]
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The National Country Party, with a little over 1 1 per cent of the votes, had 23 members elected to the House of Representatives on an average of 37 000 votes for each candidate. [More…]
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It would just about end democracy in this country if we had to try to persuade people to vote for- I use New South Wales as an example- about 45 members from 300 candidates. [More…]
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I regret that he trotted out again the old chestnut that his Party gained 42 per cent of the votes in the last election and only gained 36 per cent of the seats. [More…]
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I think Senator Douglas McClelland also had some worries about the fact that the Labor Party obtained a certain percentage of votes but did not get the same percentage of seats. [More…]
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Senator Mulvihill knows as well as I do and any other honourable senator in this chamber does that there are such things as 2-party preferred votes and preference votes. [More…]
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Fifty-eight per cent of people who vote want a member of the Liberal Party or a member of the National Country Party to be elected. [More…]
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I strongly support the contention that more be done in that way rather than there be a change in the value of the vote of a person who lives in one part of Australia and a person who lives in another part of Australia. [More…]
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If the election is held under conditions laid down by regulation, what is to prevent a government or a political party deciding in a State where it believes it can get more than 50 per cent of the votes that it will issue regulations providing for what is usually known as an exhaustive preferential ballot? [More…]
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In other words it is a winnertakeall system where any group which gets more than 50 per cent of the vote takes all the seats. [More…]
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Is it possible that Queensland- if recent voting performance is to be taken as an indication of future voting performance the Liberal and National Country Parties could confidentally expect more than 50 per cent of the vote- could issue regulations for an exhaustive preferential ballot in an election at large? [More…]
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In a State like New South Wales where normally more than 50 per cent of the people vote for the Australian Labor Party a government could issue regulations requiring proportional representation. [More…]
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They are great advocates of the one vote one value system, but it is interesting that when it comes to the crunch they do not apply that principle to their Party’s operation. [More…]
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He knows very well that if he advocated that one vote one value philosophy within his Party there would be no Labor Party in Western Australia or Tasmania. [More…]
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It is interesting to note that although reference has been made to the principle of one vote one value, under the provisions of this Bill there will be differences of quotas between States. [More…]
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While I support and will defend the proposition that those seats over 5000 square kilometres in area should not have any fewer voters than the urban seats, I still think that the proposition does not go far enough. [More…]
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Senator Maunsell also said that we on this side of the chamber believe in one vote one value when it suits us. [More…]
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We support the principle of one vote one value because we believe in it. [More…]
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If we used that system, would a limited percentage of the vote be required for election- for instance, the 5 per cent which exists in West Germany or in the State of New South Wales, say, would candidates getting less than 3 per cent of the vote win seats in the House of Representatives? [More…]
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This just confuses the voter. [More…]
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Our informal vote was 12.31 per cent in 1974. [More…]
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That is exactly what it was last time when a candidate could gain an additional 25 000 votes if his name was near the top of the ballot paper. [More…]
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Much has been said about the 1969 Supreme Court ruling in the United States of America which gave credence to the one vote, one value principle. [More…]
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The disparity in the size of electorates in Canada runs to the tune of about 70 000 voters. [More…]
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Much has been said for a long time about the principle of one vote, one value. [More…]
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I am at a loss to know how one puts a value on a vote. [More…]
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I have tried to define the term ‘one vote, one value’ and it may help Senator Georges if I give that definition. [More…]
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It is a necessary and indeed a vital ingredient in obtaining equal representation in Parliament and, therefore, equal value for one’s vote. [More…]
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I pose the question: How do we value a vote? [More…]
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If we have not a constant, reliable telephone service, the value of our vote is less than that of somebody who has. [More…]
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If our mail service is irregular and unreliable, that also lessens the value of our vote. [More…]
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If we do not have television, our radio reception is bad and newspaper deliveries are few and far between, the value of our vote is diminished. [More…]
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If we cannot see our member personally and he cannot see us and our problems, how can any real value be placed on our vote? [More…]
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It represents a lessening in the equality of representation and a diminution in the value of the vote of many Australians. [More…]
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However, I commend the Government for standing fast against a one vote one value principle that has been espoused by so many members of this chamber over a long period, for providing at least a 10 per cent tolerance and for giving general recognition to the problems of the people in rural Australia. [More…]
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I regret that the Opposition will vote against the second reading of the Bill. [More…]
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As I understand it, the Opposition’s reason for proposing to vote against the Bill at the second reading stage is not only because it is opposed to the clause concerning the 5000 square KIL-o-metre or kil-o-METRE parameter. [More…]
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There is a disparity of votes of 3 1 7 12 in a quota sense between the size of the seats in South Australia and the Northern Territory. [More…]
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How then does one achieve one vote one value? [More…]
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Our colleagues from the Northern Territory represent about 20 000 electors, yet they have an equal vote in this place. [More…]
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How then can there be one man one vote in this place? [More…]
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Whilst I think there is general acceptance in the Parliament of what might be called the theoretical proposition of one vote one value, there must be a recognition that in the Australian Federation, with the Tasmanian constitutional entitlement to 5 seats and with the Territorial representation, the proposition of one man one vote in this community is mathematically impossible to achieve. [More…]
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Far from this being something which can be turned against politicians by saying that we do not want more of them so we should vote against the proposal, I think the Australian people will be ready to say that we have had over the years too many elections and too often and that situation will be solved by the proposed constitutional amendment. [More…]
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It was argued, particularly in my State of Victoria- I took a different view- that one could not recommend voting yes for one question and then no, no, no, and expect the people to understand and to vote in that way. [More…]
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I believe, however, that there was a sound psychological argument behind the idea that if we advocated a yes vote for one proposal and then 3 no votes we would confuse the public and lose the referendum. [More…]
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It is claimed at such polls that people can vote against a government in a Senate election and the result will not destroy the government; that it will show the displeasure of the community if people vote for an independent or some small party. [More…]
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Of course, that will always happen when the government is not in any way at stake and when a poll is held that allows the people to vote at random believing that they are doing nothing to change the government of this country but, in fact, perhaps are making it unworkable. [More…]
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They are not very pleased at being called to vote at elections. [More…]
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I believe that what we must do in this country now is let the people vote on these issues. [More…]
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He is the man who obtained the vote of the Senate in relation to the question of compensation. [More…]
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I simply remind honourable senators of the vote in which they joined. [More…]
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If people are reluctant to come out and vote and we make them vote twice as often as is necessary, by doing that we are reinforcing this apathy and this inertia. [More…]
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If we want to do what will most encourage them to vote, we should have elections less frequently than we have had them in the last few years. [More…]
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The public has not had the opportunity of participating in the formulation of the proposals about which they are to vote. [More…]
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If we can devote more time to this debate it will be beneficial to democracy in the long run. [More…]
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When I couple that with the reflection of my shame that in my State on Saturday the referendum campaign was opened by Mr Whitlam advocating a ‘Yes’ vote my consternation grows. [More…]
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The House of Representatives can be sent to the country before its time by reason of a vote in the other House. [More…]
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After their constituents instead of trying to obtain a favourable vote every 18 months. [More…]
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If the elections for the 2 Houses are brought together, as is stated here, we will get the same complexion, the same political affiliation reflected in the people ‘s view at the time they have to vote. [More…]
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On May 18 Australians should vote ‘No’ to the inflationary Government - 0 [More…]
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If you regard the Senate as having any important role to fulfil as a States’ House and as a check on the power of the House of Representatives you will vote ‘No’ to this proposal. [More…]
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My ‘no’ vote is prompted by the fact that Ilike separate Senate elections. [More…]
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It did not spend the taxpayers’ money on a separate vote. [More…]
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As he has thrown out the challenge and dared anyone on this side of the chamber to deny that Caucus voted 27 to 23 against deferring this referendum I shall deny it. [More…]
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It did not vote 27 to 23 against deferring it. [More…]
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The Constitution Alteration (Simultaneous Elections) Bill 1977 is one of the 4 Bills that are to be debated in the next 2 days to enable the electors of this country to vote on sensible changes to the Constitution of Australia. [More…]
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But I do not think that this forum should be used to deny people the opportunity to vote upon the matter. [More…]
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However, when we consider the fact that certain people put up a ‘no’ case against the referendum that we had in 1974- and were so insistent that there should be a ‘no’ case- and subsequently there was a ‘no’ vote in respect of this simultaneous election proposal, and then find now that they are advocating a ‘yes’ case, we might wonder at their motives. [More…]
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Would it similarly not be untrue nowadays if that was the case for a No vote then? [More…]
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But the Government decided that the vote on the referenda proposals had to be held in May because, at that stage, there would be no possibility that the Government would have to face the will of the people at a Senate election. [More…]
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What Senator Wright seeks to do in opposing this Bill, if he could get the numbers- fortunately he will not- is to deny the people the right to vote upon this proposition. [More…]
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Senator Wright, in opposing this Bill, far from upholding the rights of the people, seeks to deny the people their most fundamental right, namely the right to vote in a referendum on a proposal to amend the Constitution. [More…]
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It would have been equally logical to argue that because New South Wales senators did not leave their parties to cross the floor and vote against their parties on that measure which would have advantaged the electors of New South Wales, the particular incident proved that the Senate was not a States House. [More…]
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I think that the Australia-wide vote in 1974 in favour of this issue was 48.3 per cent. [More…]
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It is a fact that the Australian voters choose overwhelminglyindeed, almost unanimously- to vote for one of the major political parties in elections, be they Senate or House of Representatives elections. [More…]
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If the voters choose that means, notwithstanding the fact that they have alternative candidates in Independents and minor parties, then I think we ought to accept their verdict. [More…]
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If the voter chooses to direct his activities in that way, that affects the Senate but it does not negate it. [More…]
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If the voters of Queensland choose to vote in such a way that the final ballot box result shows that 60 per cent of them believe that the propositions put forward by the Liberal and National Country Parties are the sound ones on which this country should proceed, and if 40 per cent of them hold the opinion that the policies of the Australian Labor Party are the ones that should be supported, it worries me not at all if, when the Senate is voting on a Bill affecting my State of Queensland and the issues in that Bill are as defined by the political philosophies, the vote on that Bill affecting Queensland results in 6 of the 10 Queensland senators- that is, 60 per cent- sitting on one side of the chamber and the remaining four, representing the minority viewpoint in that State, sitting on the other. [More…]
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He made many sound points in relation to the referendum in 1974 on whether there should be a ‘Yes’ or No ‘ vote on this very issue when it was then put to the people. [More…]
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One cannot say that it is only a matter of putting the proposal to the vote; this is the proposal which the Government has deliberately chosen to put to the vote. [More…]
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A number of Australian Labor Party senatorsnotably Senator Cavanagh and also Senator Walsh- have said that it is right that this proposal should go to the vote and that in the interests of a principle, therefore, this proposal is one which they will affirm. [More…]
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Opposition senators who have said that they want to see the situation cleared upsimply in terms of avoiding any inconvenience in the present Constitution- will be put to the test when they vote on these amendments. [More…]
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The real threat to democracy is when Australians become subject to emotion and not reason, and I hope that in the months that precede the vote on these referendums there will be an unemotional and reasonable approach to the problems which confront the people over their most important constitution. [More…]
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If at any time the 10 senators of one State are forced to vote in a block on a piece of legislation which they consider is detrimental to their State there would be no way their voice would not be heard. [More…]
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Some did not even vote in that election as a matter of protest. [More…]
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Have honourable senators opposite ever studied what could happen if we were to get a no vote in May? [More…]
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If that is the sort of government that honourable senators opposite want us to get, they can go ahead and vote no. [More…]
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I say to those maverick senators headed by Senator Wright that some of you might have been tempted to play politics and tell the people to vote no. [More…]
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We are advocating a yes vote. [More…]
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I interpret this legislation as righting the wrong, because no matter which way you look at this situation affirmative votes are vital. [More…]
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One is the right of people in the mainland territories to vote in referenda. [More…]
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I have great confidence that the Australian people will do no damage to our democracy by their votes in the forthcoming referenda. [More…]
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I am happy to vote to have the issues put to the people. [More…]
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We want in this chamber people who are prepared to stand up for, to vote for and to say what they really believe. [More…]
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Senator Missen said last night that the reason why the present Government Parties put forward a No case previously was that there were other questions for consideration and that if the Government Parties did not put forward that No case on that one the people might vote Yes for the others. [More…]
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I know that there is a tediousness, a tiresomeness and a sense of futility occasionally expressed when people must vote. [More…]
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The Government is being deceitful- the question you will vote on does not explain the real proposed law. [More…]
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Don’t be deceived: vote No. [More…]
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I will vote against it and when the referendum is put to the people- I am certain that the people of Tasmania will vote against it- I will certainly campaign for the No case. [More…]
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I refuse to vote for something that will lead to more power for Canberra and particularly to power that may be used by a socialist Prime Minister. [More…]
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They do not deal with the real impact of what will happen if people vote ‘yes’ in this referendum. [More…]
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I should like to devote the time I have left to the few other points I wish to make. [More…]
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The minutes do not record whether any other form of vote was taken. [More…]
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I ask the Minister for Administrative Services: Is it not a fact that under the Referendum (Constitution Alteration) Act the official Yes and No cases on a referendum proposal have to be authorised by members of Parliament who vote for or against the referendum Bill or Bills in the national Parliament? [More…]
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Does the Minister agree that under the Act a No case will be distributed by the Chief Electoral Officer only if members of the House of Representatives or senators vote in the Parliament against one or other of the referendum proposals? [More…]
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As the Minister responsible for the operation of the Act, does he know which vote in the Parliament is taken by the Chief Electoral Officer as fulfilling opposition to a referendum Bill? [More…]
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In view of the spurious arguments of some of his coalition colleagues who intend to oppose the referenda in the electorate but who say that their votes in this place for the measures are simply to allow the people a chance to vote on them, will the Minister give an undertaking that their votes for the measures under these circumstances will not be used in support of the official Yes case to be delivered to each elector? [More…]
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As I understand it, those who wish to vote one way or the other come to an arrangement amongst themselves as to who will prepare the case. [More…]
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Before the Chief Australian Electoral Officer would accept it he had to be satisfied that, according to the division lists, the signatures on that No case were those of people who had voted No. [More…]
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If, after the election, the Senate comes back upheld in its stand upon an equal vote in each State with equality of numbers in this chamber, but if Sydney and Melbourne, with their 79 votes out of 125, prevail in the House of Representatives, the Representatives view can be established only if there is a majority in a joint sitting. [More…]
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Senator Rae mentioned earlier a vote which was taken somewhere else. [More…]
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I should like to put it on the record that the vote to which he referred had nothing to do with this Bill. [More…]
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If that is the case, I fail to see how any responsible person could vote for the amendment which he is proposing. [More…]
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Yet within 18 months he voted twice for double dissolutions which, of course, are the extreme example of getting the same thought in this House as in the lower House. [More…]
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The honourable senator’s practical vote in this House is just the opposite of the argument he has just now put to the Senate. [More…]
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If it is wrong, the Senate will be proved right by the vote. [More…]
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Senator Rae twice voted for a procedure which makes this House a rubber stamp. [More…]
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He already has great power in the House of Representatives through the large vote available from New South Wales and Victoria. [More…]
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Let us remember that the combined vote of the representatives of New South Wales and Victoria is 79 while that of the small States is 45. [More…]
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If that State’s vote were defeated a Bill could be passed which would be detrimental to our small State. [More…]
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After all, the people have to go to the polls to vote for the Senate. [More…]
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By arrangement with the Minister in charge of the Bill, I seek leave to move them together and to have a vote on one of them as a test. [More…]
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-I wish the vote to be taken on the second amendment. [More…]
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What I was saying was that the Senate has the power in regard to Supply, and that the coalition parties exercised that power in 1975 when they would not even vote on the Bill. [More…]
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I too will not be opposing the Bill in the final vote. [More…]
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It is important that we know that those who vote for a certain party at a certain time can see a replacement coming from the same party as the senator he is replacing. [More…]
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Otherwise, in the future the fortunes of death or other sudden happenings may remove a couple of senators from one party and they may be replaced by people from another party, thus changing the whole balance of power in the Senate without any vote of the people. [More…]
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At the beginning of the Autumn session in 1975 I voted on a resolution in the Senate which re-affirmed the principle of appointment from political parties where that was relevant. [More…]
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I want to put on record, because there has been general reference to Queensland, the facts that m the State Parliament, in the actual vote on the matter of who should be nominated to this House by the State Parliament a majority of the Liberal parliamentary party voted for the then Dr Colston and, in a subsequent ballot of the State Liberal Party, a majority voted against the nomination of former Senator Field. [More…]
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In view of the fact that all the planes are delayed, and the sudden urgency being exhibited by a number of people to get away will be allayed, I take the opportunity to say that I would have liked to have had a chance to explain why I wished to vote in a particular way. [More…]
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To allow electors in Territories, as well as electors in the States, to vote at referendums on proposed laws to alter the Constitution. [More…]
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The introduction of the contributory Medibank scheme meant a saving of $2,000m in the Health vote of the nation and meant that the Government was able to maintain and improve the level of expenditure in other important areas such as social welfare and education. [More…]
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We vote to support our policies. [More…]
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This Government took the Australian people for a ride in the election in December 1975 and carried the vote. [More…]
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Not all senators voted for the proposal. [More…]
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If Senator Missen has a look at the vote on that issue he will see that it was not unanimous. [More…]
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The only unanimous vote was in regard to the retiring age of judges as Senator Missen will find. [More…]
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But the vote on that referendum Bill was not unanimous. [More…]
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As the status of senators from the Territories has now been challenged and as the matter is in effect sub judice, can you say whether Territorial senators will have the right to sit in this chamber, to participate in debates and to vote while this case is being dealt with? [More…]
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That means that my colleagues will vote as and how they think fit on the various items. [More…]
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Whether it is true or not, and Senator Walters agrees with me, it is an anti-Labor Party publication and on no condition would I have agreed to the Senate authorising the printing of such a document, but I voted for it because I did not know what was in it. [More…]
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As an individual, I want to see the document before I vote on its publication. [More…]
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The Senate will decide whether it will be printed, but I do not want to vote for the printing of a paper to which I am opposed. [More…]
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Once again, I do not particularly disagree with the view put forward by Senator Cavanagh, namely, that if a work of this nature is to be printed by order of the Senate then quite clearly honourable senators who are called upon to vote on such a motion ought to have the opportunity to inspect the document if they believe that it has political content. [More…]
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Whilst Senator Chaney says that the intention of the recommendation is to provide that an honourable senator will not be asked to vote on a motion to have work printed if he does not know what that work contains, I seek to place such a requirement in the Standing Orders to ensure that honourable senators are given that right without their having to rely upon gaining the support of a majority of honourable senators. [More…]
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I indicate that, in dealing with the Second Report of the Standing Orders Committee, Opposition senators will be free to vote as they see fit in respect of each item. [More…]
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As these paragraphs will not be taken together there is no need for an amendment to be moved, but I indicate that I shall vote against recommendation (2). [More…]
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But from there on I propose to vote against the motion. [More…]
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As I said earlier, it means nothing, but if there is some gentleman’s agreement on this matter and as a vote against the proposal will not be recorded because I do not think a division will be called, I just want it to be known that I am not a party to this gentleman’s agreement. [More…]
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How countries vote on every issue at the United Nations is probably not a matter of general knowledge, but Australia has to be more clear cut in its attitudes, whether they be in relation to Cyprus or in relation to the attitude of Australia towards its minorities. [More…]
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Some honourable senators opposite, some of them are Ministers now, got into the act and advocated a no vote. [More…]
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A change has occurred because of the vote of people in this House who now refuse change or refuse to acknowledge its need by referenda. [More…]
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Permanent rehabilitation of the distribution system was to cost $9m in 1976-77. the vote has been reduced to $5.2malmost a 50 per cent cut-and there is only $ 1 .2m in ready cash. [More…]
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We remember the famous statement by Mr Ellicott when he said: ‘On 13 December 1975 vote Liberal-Country Party because it will be better for you than Labor’. [More…]
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1 92m was set aside in 1 975-76 for Aboriginal enterprises and for the current financial year the vote was reduced to $2m. [More…]
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The vote for town management and public utilities, an area which provides employment for many people and communities, was reduced from $14.395m to $13.489m. [More…]
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It is also interesting to note that in this time the people of the Northern Territory had the right to vote in referendums but this was taken away in 1910 by the Northern Territory Acceptance Act. [More…]
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One in which I was naturally very interested was that which related to the referendum to allow the people of the Territories to vote in a referendum. [More…]
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If the rest of Australia gives the people of the Northern Territory the right to vote in referendums, 66 years of discrimination will come to an end. [More…]
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It is, perhaps, not often known that the people of the Northern Territory once upon a time did have the right to vote in referendums. [More…]
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Between 1901 and 191 1 the Northern Territory residents voted as part of the South Australian division of Grey. [More…]
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But it is something of an irony that we can still not vote in referendums. [More…]
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I hope that the rest of Australia will give us the same rights as every other adult Australian has by letting us vote in referendums after May 2 1. [More…]
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Apart from the fact that a ‘yes’ vote will do nothing more than restore the rights Territorians once had, there are a number of other reasons why you should vote yes on May 2 1 . [More…]
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Denial of the right to vote in referendums is a far greater denial of basic human rights than might first appear. [More…]
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The constitutional requirement that majorities of voters in four States must agree to any proposed constitutional change will not be affected by a ‘yes ‘ vote onMay21.TheStateswill still have the protection the Constitution guarantees them. [More…]
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The only change to the present law will be that the votes of Territorians will be counted in the overall total. [More…]
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In those circumstances anyone who believes in a fair go for all Australians can do nothing else but vote ‘yes ‘. [More…]
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In addressing myself to this motion I feel it incumbent upon me to deal with the attempt being made by abortion profiteers to establish free standing abortion clinics in the Australian Capital Territory contrary to the expressed opinion of the members of the House of Representatives in a vote taken on the subject and contrary to the opinion expressed by residents of the A.C.T. [More…]
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According to PSI the service will be in business within 10 days, despite what has been said about this matter and the vote which was taken on a non-party basis in the other place and despite what has been expressed by the people of the Australian Capital Territory. [More…]
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A vote for ‘Yes’ will be a vote for fairness and decency in politics. [More…]
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When you vote ‘Yes’ on 21 May you will be ensuring: Elections for the Senate and the House of Representatives take place on the same day- a huge saving for the public in both money and time. [More…]
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What was said then in reply to the argument by the Labor Government that a yes vote would bring about simultaneous elections for both Houses as though that action was the only way to achieve that end? [More…]
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From a parliamentary service point of view we stand to gain from a Yes vote. [More…]
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If the people vote yes we will gain. [More…]
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A ‘Yes’ vote will protect and preserve each. [More…]
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A ‘Yes’ vote will protect and preserve each. [More…]
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I turn to what was said in the no case in 1 974 by the same people now advocating a yes vote. [More…]
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He voted against putting forward these referendum questions. [More…]
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He was opposed to them and his vote is recorded in Hansard for anybody to see. [More…]
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As one who has taken a stand on this issue in the hope that people will vote No I sincerely hope that the people will preserve the independence and character of the Senate and that they will not be carried away by the second voice being used by members of the present Government as distinct from that which they used in 1974. [More…]
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I always think that the safest democracy of all is a democracy in which the most power remains in the hands of the people so that when they vote they have the right to say who they will have. [More…]
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The sorts of things we can examine include the American system under which the State legislatures rather than the vote of the people is the determining factor. [More…]
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I for one would not be prepared to sit in the Senate and cast a vote in such a case if I was secured from the vote of the people if I succeeded in bringing down a government. [More…]
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I also thank honourable senators for what I hope will be a vote on the voices to carry the motion moved by Senator Lewis. [More…]
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There has been no suggestion that it ought to be voted against, nor has there been any suggestion that it ought to be amended. [More…]
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Therefore, I urge all my fellow senators to vote with me for this motion. [More…]
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Urge Aborigines to vote LiberalCountry Party on 13 December. [More…]
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The hired bunch of solicitors used as scrutineers completed the program to deprive illiterate Aborigines of their right to cast a valid vote. [More…]
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The Liberal Party used discriminatory tactics against illiterate Aborigines in the Kimberley electorate to intimidate, confuse and deprive of the right to register a valid vote for the candidate they had selected. [More…]
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They demanded that all statutory requirements of the Electoral Act be applied by the presiding officers in ascertaining the illiterate persons identity and right to vote. [More…]
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In the presence of all witnesses they were required to name the person they wished to vote for and then name the other candidates and the preferences to be allocated. [More…]
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They were not permitted to refer the presiding officer to the voting card after they had nominated the candidate they wished to vote for. [More…]
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No other elector was deprived of their how to vote card. [More…]
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Early Aboriginal electors took up to 20 minutes to cast their vote once they had asked for assistance. [More…]
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His how to vote cards were distributed in some areas by persons handing out the Liberal how to vote card. [More…]
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Mr and Mrs Rees and presumably his scrutineer voted at Fitzroy Crossing booth but only I vote was registered at the booth. [More…]
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A few chose to vote Liberal. [More…]
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The vast majority had decided to vote for Ernie Bridge. [More…]
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It is likely that no electors in Australian history have been subjected to such inquisitorial treatment to cast a democratic vote. [More…]
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People voted for both Liberal and Labor in the Fitzroy booths, showing they made a choice. [More…]
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Many were not able to read the how to vote cards, but they could tell which card they wanted to follow by the photos. [More…]
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We would have voted with our own will. [More…]
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All the old people didn’t know how to vote. [More…]
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We try to help them but they didn’t let us help all the old people and show them how to vote the right way. [More…]
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Well I never vote for Liberal any other time from the time I started voting. [More…]
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I wanted to vote for Labor last election but they muck me about for the first voting that was on 1 975. [More…]
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Why we did not vote for Liberal Party, because they have never done anything for us. [More…]
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When Alan Ridge visited our reserve I asked if I could change the voting, to vote Labor. [More…]
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I have voted 9 years for Mr Ridge. [More…]
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Everybody we voted for Labor. [More…]
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We want to vote for Labor and twist the Government around. [More…]
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Didn’t see any vote on roll book. [More…]
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The music and lyric judges concluded that not one of the entries submitted justified inclusion in the musical work to be submitted to the public on which they would record their vote. [More…]
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I am showing how incongruous it is that with such high principles of constitutional practice and provision we are to vote for a song and a put that question in as a pretext for saying that it is an egregious mistake to have a constitutional referendum costing $5m to $7m in this time of stringent economic hardship. [More…]
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It makes a harsh impact on the Constitution and shows how inappropriate it is to introduce this fifth question of a national song or tune on which people are to vote at the same time as they vote on the Constitution questions. [More…]
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It states further that electors in the Territories will have the opportunity to vote on the issue of the choice of a national song but on nothing else, which is a strange irony of the Australian Constitution as it stands at present. [More…]
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I would have thought that there was some difference between the word ‘tune’ and the word ‘song’ and I hope that that is not going to be a problem which confuses the electors who vote on this issue on 2 1 May. [More…]
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This confusion should be of concern to the Senate because the confusion is there in the legislation and may be there for the electors when they vote on this issue on 21 May. [More…]
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I have put the proposition, which has been carefully worked out, that with 46 per cent of the vote the Don Dunstan Government could be returned in South Australia. [More…]
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All other mainland State governments and, indeed, the Australian Parliament should hasten to ensure that similar legislation is enacted so that all Australian electors are able to elect the government of their choice by popular vote. [More…]
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It will take the non-Labor parties as many votes to beat the Dunstan Government at future elections as it took Don Dunstan ‘s Party to defeat the Playford Government. [More…]
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The Labor Government in South Australia, as the boundaries have been drawn, could be returned to office with 46 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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We find that never once did a Liberal government in South Australia receive 46 per cent of the vote, yet that Party was in office continuously from 19 March 1938 until 1965. [More…]
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In 1938 Mr Playford became Premier after receiving 32.8 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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At the next election he received 37.49 per cent of the vote and at the next election he got 45.84 per cent. [More…]
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That is the nearest that the Liberals ever got to winning 46 per cent of the vote, yet we find Mr Staley complaining that under the boundaries drawn up by the present Electoral Commissioners in South Australia the Labor Party could win government with 46 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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In 1 947 they received 40.38 per cent of the vote; in 1950 they received 40.51 per cent; in 1953 they received 36.45 per cent and in 1 956 they received 36.69 per cent. [More…]
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In spite of the very low percentage of votes that the Liberal Party got it still won the government in South Australia. [More…]
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In 1959 the Liberals received 36.95 per cent of the vote; in 1962 they received 34.5 1 per cent and in that year the Labor Party won 53.97 per cent of the vote and still could not win enough seats to become the Government. [More…]
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In 1965 the Labor Party had to poll 55.04 per cent of the vote to become the Government for the first time since 1938. [More…]
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Although the Liberal Party increased its percentage of the vote in that year it could not win government. [More…]
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It got 35.93 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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In the election conducted on 2 March 1 968 the Labor Party, as the Government having to go the people, received 51.98 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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The Party led by the then Mr Steele Hall, now Senator Hall, who so justly criticised Mr Staley tonight, won government with 43.82 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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In 1970 following the redistribution carried out by Mr Hall, the Labor Party won 52.14 per cent of the vote, a slight increase, and Mr Hall’s Party received 43.76 per cent. [More…]
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The Labor Party won the election with a majority of seven, with a very small increase in votes following the redistribution brought about by Mr Hall. [More…]
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In 1973 Mr Dunstan was again returned to Government after winning 5 1.52 per cent of the vote and the Liberal Party lost the election after receiving 39.79 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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Is the Minister aware that the report in the Canberra Times indicates that at a meeting called by the Teachers Federation yesterday, it was decided by vote that the Minister should, as I understand it from the report, have until 22 April to implement the recommendations of the report and if this does not happen the Federation’s council has been asked to call a stoppage to consider further action? [More…]
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Prior to the adjournment I had had incorporated in Hansard a chart showing the percentage of votes received by the respective parties in South Australia over a period covering 37 years and 14 elections. [More…]
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The chart indicates that at no stage in the 37 years to which I referred did the Liberal Party ever receive 46 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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Mr Staley complained that 46 per cent of the vote would ensure that the Labor Party in South Australia could always win office under the new redistribution. [More…]
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I have put the proposition, which has been carefully worked out, that with 46 per cent of the vote the Don Dunstan Government could be returned in South Australia. [More…]
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Senator Messner, by way of interjection, made some comment about independents when I was referring to the very low vote received by the Liberal party. [More…]
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What we have to look at is the number of votes received by any political party. [More…]
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It could never win 50 per cent of the vote in its own right. [More…]
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The Labor Party is the only party in Australia which has ever received 50 per cent of the popular vote in its own right. [More…]
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What Senator Messner is endeavouring to say is that we should lump together the percentage of votes received by independents and those received by the Liberal Party and say that represents the Liberal Party vote. [More…]
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If we quickly run down the figures in the chart which I had incorporated in Hansard we will see that the Labor Party has never received less than 46 per cent of the vote in South Australia. [More…]
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I admit it went close to doing so in July last year when we received 46.32 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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When we look at the Liberal Party percentage of the vote- Senator Townley will be interested in this- we see that it received 3 1.53 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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As a matter of fact, this was the lowest vote the Liberal Party has received in South Australia in 37 years, over a period of 14 elections. [More…]
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It was because the Liberal Movement received 19.04 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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But nobody in his right mind could transfer that 19.04 per cent of the vote to the Liberal Party. [More…]
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If the preferences had been allocated right across the board a lot of those votes would have come to the Labor Party. [More…]
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It is perfectly evident that if the independents receive a large vote it is because the people who vote for them do not want to vote for the Liberal Party. [More…]
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Senator McLaren has done what Labor politicians have been doing in South Australia for umpteen years in order to justify their stand on the issue of the so-called one vote, one value. [More…]
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He has taken a set of figures which simply show party votes, comparing one party with the other, since 1938 to the given date. [More…]
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All the objections that have been raised seek to avoid the democratic vote of the people in certain unions. [More…]
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There was a big jump in the vote for Labor in South Australia from 1944 on because more people were voting. [More…]
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But Senator Messner cannot say that there was not a gerrymander in 1953 when Labor received 50.97 per cent of the total vote- that was a majority of the votes- and was defeated in its attempt to gain government by a party that received 36.45 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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What I am saying is that in the election of 1953 a party which received 50.97 per cent of the vote remained in opposition. [More…]
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-The total vote was the total vote of the electorate. [More…]
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The Liberal-Country League Government was returned to office with 43.82 per cent of the vote in a fully contested election. [More…]
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The 10 per cent variation in electorates which applies in South Australia brings about a situation which is as close as one can get to the principle of one vote, one value. [More…]
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Under the Standing Orders of the Senate, as I recollect them as I stand here, no matter can be referred to the Privileges Committee unless a prima facie case has been established in the Senate and the Senate by vote resolves that the matter be sent to the Committee. [More…]
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The citizens of the Australian Capital Territory were then deprived of the right to vote in any referendum. [More…]
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I point out to the Senate that the people of the Australian Capital Territory had only one representative in the House of Representatives in 1973 when the vote was taken on the Medical Practice Clarification Bill, that is, the McKenzieLamb abortion Bill. [More…]
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That one representative was Mr Enderby and he voted in support of the Bill. [More…]
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For years, fruit growers in Tasmania have been told that if they wished to maintain their independence and if they wished to avoid what was called socialism they should vote for the conservative parties and that these parties would ensure that the government would look after them. [More…]
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Even though the board in New Zealand that year had made, I think, a loss of $4m, it was so habituated to the very circumstances of trading tht it did not look upon the Treasury simply to avalanche money out to the social services, indexed as they are, because most modern politicians think that this is where the vote comes from today. [More…]
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I say to Senator Wright, through you, Mr President: If you are prepared to encourage your supporters to come over here and vote with us on this amendment the Prime Minister, Mr Fraser, the Minister for Primary Industry, Mr Sinclair, and the Treasurer, Mr Lynch, will get the message that they have to do something to assist the people in Tasmania this year until we can have a further look at the apple and pear industry. [More…]
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It is my intention only to declare myself as to where my vote will be on this particular subject. [More…]
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The Panel has recommended by a six vote to one vote that the time reference scanning beam format which InterScan uses and which the United States adopted in its proposal to the International Civil Aviation Organisation be used for the new standard international approach and landing guidance system for aircraft. [More…]
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Indeed, it has yet to be put before a vote by 138 countries for it to be adopted, probably this year, by the International Civil Aviation Organisation. [More…]
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They show also that in 1973-74 the total education vote was about $858m but that it increased to $ 1,67 lm in 1974-75. [More…]
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I doubt very much whether the No case is going to convince anybody in either the Australian Capital Territory or the Northern Territory, or indeed in any of the 6 States, that people in the Territories particularly ought to be ashamed of themselves and ought not to be looking for a vote. [More…]
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If the honourable senator feels so keenly that the matter ought to be debated in the Territories, I invite him to take himself and his colleagues who are opposed to Territorians having a vote and stump up and down the Northern Territory and around the Australian Capital Territory to see the sort of reception they get. [More…]
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If Senator Wood likes to look at the division list he will find that he voted in favour of that matter going to a referendum. [More…]
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In fact, as I understood the situation, there is no official No case on the retiring ages of judges because no person within the Parliament voted against that proposition. [More…]
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They support that proposition and I imagine that the three of them will be out on the campaign trail urging people to vote yes on at least that question. [More…]
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One could hardly imagine that in the space of a few weeks they would change their vote from yes to no. [More…]
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I am certain that the Australian populace, which is renowned for exercising an enormous amount of common sense on great occasions, will vote yes in spite of the fact that here and there we have people who advocate that they should not. [More…]
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Like everybody else, I am going to vote for the second reading of this Bill. [More…]
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No honourable senator would like to vote against a proposition which might provide a reasonable and practicable solution to the possible recurrence of what happened in Entebbe. [More…]
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I suggest that because the matter is of some importance, before it is put to a vote the amendment moved by Senator Wright should be circulated so that at least when the vote is taken we all know its purport. [More…]
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For the benefit of those who have come into the chamber I mention again that Labor cut the education vote in 1976 for the 4 commissions by $105m. [More…]
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Before honourable senators vote on this motion I ask them to look at the humanitarian issues involved. [More…]
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Tonight we seek to have a vote on this proposition. [More…]
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Of course, the committee which we seek to set up gives the majority vote to the Government. [More…]
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Yes, I did vote in favour of a motion, as amended and finally put at Hobart, in which the Convention supported the principle that upon the death or resignation, because of bona fide illness, of a senator, the replacement senator should come from the same Party. [More…]
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So, yes, I did vote in favour of a motion as amended and as passed. [More…]
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I want to recall that in 1 967 when all three political parties propounded with unanimous voice a proposal to break the nexus between this House and the other place, the people of Australia in nearly all States- I think in 5 States if not six- by a vote approximating 70 per cent renounced the overtures of the trinity, the 3 parties, and under persuasion of some 10 senators, again from 3 parties, they rejected the nexus but overwhelmingly accepted the proposal relating to Aborigines. [More…]
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Our vote would probably need the Bills to be recalled, but that would not shatter the Government. [More…]
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Were residents of the Northern Territory entitled to vote in referenda between 1901-191 1. [More…]
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If so, what change in their constitutional status has made it inappropriate for them to vote in subsequent, or future referenda. [More…]
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Section 128 of the Constitution provides for proposed laws for the alteration of the Constitution to be submitted for approval in each State to the electors of each State qualified to vote for the election of members of the House of Representatives. [More…]
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Between 1 90 1 - 1 9 1 0 the Northern Territory was part of the State of South Australia, and accordingly persons resident therein were entitled to vote in referendums during that period. [More…]
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On the surrender of the Northern Territory to the Commonwealth by the State of South Australia and the acceptance thereof by the Commonwealth on I January 1911 under the Northern Territory Acceptance Act 1910, the Northern Territory ceased to be part of the State of South Australia, and accordingly the persons resident therein ceased to be electors of that State entitled to vote in referendums. [More…]
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The Constitution Alteration (Referendums) 1977 to be submitted to the electors of the States on 2 1 May 1977 will, if approved, entitle the residents of the Northern Territory, and also of the Australian Capital Territory, to once again vote in referendums on proposed laws for the alteration of the Constitution. [More…]
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The most satisfactory aspect of the referendums was the vote on the retiring age forjudges. [More…]
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An overwhelming 80.5 per cent nationally and a minimum of 65 per cent in any State voted yes. [More…]
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I note with great approval that in recording that vote the electorate overwhelmingly rejected the senile gibberish of an octogenarian former Prime Minister who went into bat very heavily recommending a No vote on this issue. [More…]
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They were given by the present Government the option to vote in the poll to choose a national tune. [More…]
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In the Australian Capital Territory we recorded a majority vote in favour of the tune of Waltzing Matilda. [More…]
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As I pointed out, the explanation given by some supporters of the yes vote for changing their minds on this issue is just a lot of nonsense. [More…]
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What I am saying is that twice in 1975, the year after holding a referendum, when the Labor Government tried to get authority to hold another referendum on the question of simultaneous elections, Mr Malcolm Fraser and his cobber in the VIP plane, Senator Missen, voted against such a proposal. [More…]
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The second vote was taken not long before Mr Fraser became Prime Minister. [More…]
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He is classed as a member of the Opposition but we know that on every major issue he will vote with the Liberal and Country Parties on every occassion. [More…]
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They support them in their votes in this Senate, in the speeches they make and in the preferences they give to the Liberal and Country Parties on election days. [More…]
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Additionally, automatic postal votes have been sent to all eligible electors and postal vote application forms for other Northern Territory electors who need them are available at all Post Offices and from the two Electoral Offices in the Territory. [More…]
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On the latest figures which I have, which may be of interest to honourable senators, I am informed that on no occasion previously has a proposal which had such a high national vote in its favour been lost. [More…]
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-At the moment the national vote is 62.2 per cent. [More…]
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As I was saying, on no occasion previously has a proposal which had such a high national vote in its favour been lost. [More…]
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The 3 previous referendum proposals which had previously achieved a majority of voters but not a majority of States were in relation to aviation in 1937, which had 53.56 per cent; organised marketing of primary products in 1946, which had 50.57 per cent; and industrial unemployment in 1 946, which had 50.3 per cent. [More…]
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The greatest strike that we in this country ever experienced occurred in 1975 when honourable senators opposite went on strike and refused to vote on the Budget. [More…]
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He has been most emphatic in stating that a Yes vote on the referendum for simultaneous elections was not needed because simultaneous elections could be held without that vote. [More…]
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This brings me back to saying to Senator Wood and those of his colleagues who advocated a No vote that they have the power in their own hands. [More…]
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I am talking facts and not a lot of nonsense like honourable senators opposite spoke in support of the No vote when they hoodwinked the people. [More…]
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Of course, they did not hoodwink the people as a whole because 62 percent of the electors in this magnificent country voted for simultaneous elections. [More…]
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He came out in defiance of his own parliamentary leader, the Deputy Prime Minister (Mr Anthony), and advocated a No vote. [More…]
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One of the issues that he used as a lever in his policy to try to persuade the people to vote against the Whitlam Government was indicated when he was speaking about Mr Whitlam. [More…]
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At that stage, Mr Fraser had been saying that the Labor Government was wrong but by the very fact that he advocated a Yes vote in the recent referendums he has admitted that on that occasion the Whitlam Government was right and the Liberal Party was wrong. [More…]
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He is on record as saying that at the Constitutional Convention both Mr Bjelke-Petersen and Sir Charles Court had agreed with the proposition but that when they went back to their own States pressure was brought to bear, no doubt by the same people as brought pressure to bear on those honourable senators opposite who advocated a No vote, they changed their stance. [More…]
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We got 56 per cent of the vote and Labor was able to win office because the people had had enough. [More…]
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That is going to be the test of your sincerity and of all the arguments that you put to the people advocating a No vote during the referendum campaign. [More…]
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You can promise you will give them a job and they will vote for you. [More…]
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Obviously I will be the only person tonight to vote against this Bill. [More…]
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The debate tonight is a very interesting example of the fact that if Caucus chooses to support the Government on an issue- we know that that means that all Labor senators will vote with the GovernmentGovernment senators from five of the six States could cross the floor if they wished and the Government would still get its legislation passed. [More…]
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I understand Senator Chaney ‘s concern that he no longer seems to have any control over his members on that side as to what they are going to do, what they are going to say and how they are going to vote. [More…]
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I thank my colleague and friend Senator Messner who spoke in support of the Bill and my colleagues who will vote Aye if a division is called for. [More…]
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What I want before I vote on this legislation is an answer to my question upon notice. [More…]
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How can I make up my mind whether it is appropriate for me to vote for the repeal of section 125 of the principal Act, presuming that people who are appointed currently under section 125 of the Act will form the Industrial Relations Bureau? [More…]
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I indicate that it is the Opposition’s intention to vote against that clause, although we do not propose to divide the Committee on it. [More…]
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As a matter of interest, the vote for voluntary union membership was strongest in South Australia, where the vote was 83 per cent. [More…]
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Probably even more interesting is the fact that the vote in the age group under 30 years was 87 per cent. [More…]
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-The overall vote was 14 per cent. [More…]
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I was interested also to note that the vote in favour of voluntary union membership was strongest in South Australia, where 83 per cent were in favour compared with the average of about 78 per cent. [More…]
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Another member of the House of Representatives, who was then accompanying the Prime Minister in Tasmania putting the case for a Yes vote at the referendum, had this to say: [More…]
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Not only did Mr Ellicott mislead the Aboriginal communities by making certain statements to them but also he used a massive amount of taxpayers’ money to try to influence the people on Aboriginal settlements and the people who, perhaps, were not on Aboriginal settlements but living in closer areas, that they should vote back into office the Liberal-National Country Party caretaker Government. [More…]
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House if there was a Yes vote for simultaneous elections. [More…]
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We look forward, when the vote is taken, to seeing Senator Wright coming across here and joining the Opposition in rejecting the legislation. [More…]
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They should do likewise and let the whole of the electorate in every State go to the polls and vote in a democratic system so that the party which gets 50 per cent plus one of the vote will be the Government irrespective of its political colour. [More…]
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I am sure that Mr Porter’s vote will drop dramatically from what he got at the last election. [More…]
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Polls have shown that well over 80 per cent of South Australians are seeking to enjoy the freedoms that Victorian and New South Wales people enjoy and they will vote accordingly at the next State election. [More…]
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The telegrams asked South Australian senators not to vote for the States (Personal Income Tax Sharing) Amendment Bill and set out the reasons. [More…]
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No South Australian senator on either side of the House who read the telegram could vote for the legislation when it comes before this Parliament. [More…]
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This Bill extends far beyond the knowledge of a layman, but I think we have a responsibility to know what it means before we vote on it. [More…]
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I expect Senator Walsh to have the courage of his convictions when the time comes for a vote. [More…]
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I expect him to defy his Caucus and vote against his Party. [More…]
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I hope that Senator Walsh will have the courage of his convictions and that he will defy his Caucus and vote against the Bill. [More…]
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We voted for the Bill, but these people are ripping you off’. [More…]
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This man, this great senator from South Australia, is willing to vote for the Bill, but at the same time he says: ‘These people are ripping you off’. [More…]
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Senator McLaren will vote for the Bill, but at the same time he accuses recipients of what he will vote for of ripping off the community. [More…]
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Having done it first, he says tonight: ‘I am going to vote for the second reading of the Bill but I want to reveal all those people who are ripping it off’. [More…]
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Further to the question of Mr Santos and the work he has done for Timor and the refusal by this House to vote for an inquiry into the events in East Timor before and after the Indonesian invasion, it is interesting to note that American Congressional hearings on this matter are to be held later this month. [More…]
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The vote is 69-11. [More…]
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The United States abstains on the vote. [More…]
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The vote is 61-18, with 49 abstentions. [More…]
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The United States votes against the resolution. [More…]
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This would happen if every person who is connected with the raising of cows or sheep had a vote for this consultative group. [More…]
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If the Minister for Veterans’ Affairs (Senator Durack) sees fit to answer the questions- that would be a substantial improvement on his preformance over the last few days- I ask him, in fact, I challenge him to tell us, before this so-called House of review passes yet another Bill that was introduced into the House of Representatives only last Thursday, who will be entitled to vote and what will be the method of election. [More…]
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Senator Walsh asked, among other things: ‘Who will be entitled to vote? [More…]
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When the final decision is made on who shall vote and how, it will be written into the Act. [More…]
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If he is correct in what he says, I must say that communications between the Country Party and the people who normally vote Country Party in New South Wales are sadly lacking because none of those people who were at Parliament House yesterday had any communications or had had any discussions with their Country Party representatives in both Houses of this Parliament as to what the legislation was all about. [More…]
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If honourable senators opposite who have some misgivings about the legislation are sincere in their efforts to have it deferred, I suggest that all they need to do is to vote for the Opposition’s first amendment to the Bill, as that automatically defers the legislation because we know that the House of Representatives is not sitting. [More…]
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Until that time it was the highest vote that had been received by the Labor Party. [More…]
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The Committee discussed this matter and took a vote on whether it should be 2 kilometres. [More…]
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The Opposition members who were present at that meeting voted for 2 kilometres. [More…]
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Can the Minister say what significance, if any, can be attached to the fact that in this year’s Budget the vote for Norfolk Island has been reduced by $88,000? [More…]
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The vote in the referendum on the Constitution alteration should therefore be seen against the background of the Attorney-General’s publicly stated preference for a retirement age of 65 years forjudges of this particular Federal court. [More…]
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The decision of the committee shall require a unanimous vote. [More…]
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The Goldfields’ Vote: ‘Yes’ for Uranium. [More…]
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Some few years back when we decided to give the Aborigines the right to vote and the right to drink we thought we were somehow or other enhancing their prospects. [More…]
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I think he was very racist when he said that giving Aboriginals the right to vote has caused irreparable harm. [More…]
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I do not know precisely when he means by that statement unless he is still reeling under the effects of the recent vote in the Northern Territory where all the heavyweights in the National Country Party and Liberal Party lost their seats. [More…]
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We have now had put to us the proposition that we are to be kept here tomorrow to vote on legislation which no member of the Opposition saw before it was introduced into the other place. [More…]
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Because the Government has the numbers, we are to be called upon to vote on this legislation tomorrow without using this House as the House of review which honourable senators opposite always say that it is. [More…]
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The then members of the Opposition would not even accept the will of the people on two occasions and the vote of the Joint Sitting of both Houses on all the contentious legislation which they had opposed in this Parliament at every turn of the wheel. [More…]
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Honourable senators will be aware that 42 million people or about 20 per cent of the citizens of the United States of America, in seven States, had a chance to vote at referendums giving them a chance to say in their own States whether there would or would not be use of nuclear power in their own areas. [More…]
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By a majority averaging out at between 65 per cent and 70 per cent they determined the vote in every case in favour of the use of uranium and in favour of the development of nuclear power. [More…]
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For those who have a belief in the value of the democratic vote, for those who trust the public, these findings are quite reassuring. [More…]
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Mr Hunt released information which showed that the Government was providing continued funding to 19 women’s refuges already approved for assistance under the program and that up to a further Sim had been set aside within the vote for the funding of additional refuges. [More…]
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In his own electorate of Cunningham in December 1975 Rex Connor polled a massive 6 1.7 per cent of the total vote recorded in the electorate. [More…]
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I think two areas that could be given better attention than has been the case in the past are firstly, the remuneration of people operating in the Antarctic bases and secondly- I have raised this with the Minister before in Estimate Committee hearings- the right of people in the Antarctic to vote and the ability of those people to be able to cast their votes in elections and referenda and matters of that kind. [More…]
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Of course under our present arrangements it is not possible for these people to exercise their democratic right of a vote at elections. [More…]
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I hope that the situation can be corrected because it is one of the fundamental rights of people to be able to cast their vote at an election. [More…]
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The counting of that vote could be critical to the result; one never knows. [More…]
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They have a legal requirement to vote yet they are not able to do so. [More…]
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But I would have thought that, since we have full time radio communication with our bases and telegraphic facilities and the like, a system could be devised whereby the people involved could be able to exercise their right to vote. [More…]
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I think I could devise a simple system whereby the right to vote could be given to them. [More…]
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In brief, it claimed that a vote for the Liberal and National Country parties was a vote for prosperity. [More…]
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He supported the Labor Party through its three years in government, when tax concessions to farmers for fencing, drainage and fuel and fodder conservation were taken away by the vote of that honourable senator. [More…]
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For the first time in living memory in South Australia we have a system of voting which is near to one vote one value. [More…]
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When the Government is decided by a majority of voters the electorate supports Labor on every occasion. [More…]
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Whatever may be the faults of the Communist Party, members of an organisation or trade union- an organisation representing working class peoplewill vote for those who give them some assistance rather than for those who are directly opposed to their interests. [More…]
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If the devastated area is an area in which Aboriginals are located, the whole of the relief expenditure come out of the Aboriginal vote. [More…]
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The $2.5m reduction in the appropriation and the $2.5m that has to be reimbursed to the Queensland Department come out of the Aboriginal housing vote this year. [More…]
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The procommunist Left need one more vote and that is why all of the guns are aimed at the Tasmanian Trades and Labour Council. [More…]
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Mr Ellicott, when he was shadow Minister for Aboriginal Affairs in 1975, spent many thousands of dollars of taxpayers’ money in sending telegrams to black communities throughout this country advising them to vote for the Liberal-Country Party because he claimed, they would be better off, not worse off under a new government. [More…]
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Was Australia one of three member nations of the United Nations to vote against the United Nations General Assembly Resolution 2603 A(XXIV) of 16 December 1969, which extended the Geneva protocol to tear gas and herbicides; if so, why. [More…]
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Since 1969 no further draft resolutions on this point of interpretation have been placed before the United Nations General Assembly, nor have successive Australian Governments since then reviewed the position reflected in our vote at the 24th General Assembly. [More…]
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In conclusion, although we are opposed to the federalism policy as such and have reservations about the Bill, we will not vote against it. [More…]
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Labor Government that did this when it cut the total education vote by $105m in the 1975 Budget. [More…]
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I am assured that the State Government in its education vote- I am speaking of Victoria only, because it is the only budget on which I have been given information- has more than picked up this tab which is such a worry to the Opposition. [More…]
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The Leader of the Opposition (Senator Wriedt) has the gall to say that in 1963 the Government’s predecessors on this side of politics for vote winning purposes provided help to the non-government schools and that the Labor Government put things right in 1972. [More…]
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In fact, the Labor Government in South Australia could have won the election with less than 50 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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I suggest that the matter be put to a vote. [More…]
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I went so far as to vote against a certain procedure of a Bill which allocated these funds on an earlier occasion. [More…]
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I remain re-assured that in fact it fully supports the Government and this will be expressed in the vote. [More…]
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Rhodesia has a qualified franchise for all the people there and anybody who qualifies, black or white, can vote. [More…]
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So the older tribal blacks do not qualify to vote because they are not educated, but they are represented in the Parliament through their chieftain system. [More…]
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For example, according to the United Nations Charter rules, under Article 27 paragraph 3 all five of the permanent members of the Security Council are required to vote and concur on measures such as these. [More…]
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By 1968 France maintained her position that the measures were outside the United Nations’ competence but voted for the resolution because of the vast depth of feeling created by the Rhodesian crisis, the impatience of the outside Africans and the fact that the Rhodesian affair had increasingly assumed the aspect of a general crisis affecting the whole world. [More…]
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If we tamper with and hold back the evolutionary process of one vote one value in the African Continent we will have another upheaval that will make Vietnam seem like a side show. [More…]
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Regrettably, the front bench of the then Opposition, for cheap political advantage, advocated a No vote. [More…]
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This Government-I am sure that Senator Kilgariff is not going to cross the floor and vote against that particular part of the Budgetis going to increase the price of petrol this year by 1 lc a gallon. [More…]
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He is going to vote for it and he should not say that the Labor Government ruined the outback. [More…]
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Senator McLaren knows that he cannot confidently say to any Australian elector ‘Vote for the Labor Party. [More…]
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I am sure he will have the vote of the new mayor of Fairfield, and I wish him luck; but he should be careful if he hopes to misrepresent as he has done the proper activities of the Prime Minister of Australia moving among his community. [More…]
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For a start, I place on record that my election to the Senate in 1 974 depended upon the Liberal vote in Labor seats in the western suburbs of Sydney. [More…]
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There are large numbers of people in the western suburbs who will not vote for the socialists. [More…]
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There are 205,466 people who voted Liberal at the last election, and in none of those seats did the Liberal Party get less than 37 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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In fact, in most of them its vote was well above that. [More…]
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I think it was Senator Baume who made some claims- I was not in the chamber to hear him but I was listening to him over the broadcasting systemthat the Liberal Party had him open an office or had him go into certain Labor areas to improve the Liberal vote. [More…]
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I should like to remind him of the percentage of votes the Liberal and National Country parties did get and the number of seats they got with that vote under the old system of election. [More…]
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In the 1975 election the Australian Labor Party polled 3,313,004 votes, or 42.8 per cent, and we won 36 seats. [More…]
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The Liberal Party polled 3,248,136 votes, or 42 per cent, that is, 0.8 per cent of the votes less than the Labor Party got, but the Liberals won 68 seats. [More…]
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It polled 853,943 votes- 1 1 per cent of the vote- and got 23 seats. [More…]
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I shall read out the vote of thanks to the retiring chairman of directors. [More…]
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The vote of thanks needs to be placed on the record because recently there has been some criticism involving me and certain decisions that I made. [More…]
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VOTE OF THANKS TO RETIRING CHAIRMAN OF DIRECTORS [More…]
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Following proposal by Mr Smart and seconding by Mr Furzer a vote of thanks was passed to the retiring Chairman of Directors, Senator G. Georges. [More…]
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The current provisions of the Act which require that at least 50 per cent of those on the roll of voters must cast a vote in an amalgamation ballot and that of those who vote, 50 per cent plus one must vote for the amalgamation, are based on the Government’s belief that before an amalgamation takes place every opportunity should be given for members of the organisation to exercise their democratic right to say whether they approve. [More…]
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For a person to be entitled to vote in a ballot he must be a member of the organisaton on the day on which the registrar gives his approval for submission of the amalgamation and must have been financial at some stage within the previous 12 months. [More…]
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If this matter came to a vote again, in order to bring some sense into the situation, I would be prepared to vote for a change in Standing Orders so that senators may read their speeches. [More…]
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Before I voted for the motion that senators could not read their speeches. [More…]
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I remember Senator Carrick in full flight ridiculing a yes vote. [More…]
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In a curious alliance and for political expediency the people voted no. [More…]
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One of the phenomena of Australian life is that people either tend to vote Liberal, as most do most of the time or, somewhat misguidedly- a minority most of the time- to vote Labor; so it is from time to time a fact that some will vote Liberal. [More…]
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As the honourable senator will know, when a Bill relating to capital punishment was before the Parliament three or four years ago it was agreed by all political parties that there would be a free vote, and that was what occurred. [More…]
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In the last election the National Party gained 27.9 per cent of the vote and 39 seats; Labor (which admittedly contested many more electorates) won 36 per cent of the vote and 1 1 seats. [More…]
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Certain figures were given in that editorial which indicate that a party can become the government on a minority vote. [More…]
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In the coming State elections in Queensland, which will be held on 12 November, the Australian Labor Party will need almost 60 per cent of the vote to gain government. [More…]
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By an unfair balance of electors within zones and electorates the National Party, with a minority vote, might become the government in its own right. [More…]
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We have reached the point of putting to the vote the main question, that is, that the motion moved by Senator Wriedt be agreed to. [More…]
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We could not expect the Government to pay for that out of the Aboriginal vote. [More…]
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When voting on questions is equal, the chairman’s vote decides it. [More…]
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That legislation, which was ill conceived legislation, was presented to the Parliament in a very hasty manner, so much so that one of the Government senators- Senator Knight from the Australian Capital Territory- said at the time that he had some doubts as to whether he should support it but when a vote was taken on it he supported it. [More…]
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They claim that they have a right to a so-called conscience vote. [More…]
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It gets in on about 29 per cent of the vote under the greatest gerrymander that has ever existed in Australia. [More…]
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This division is not made in a very pleasant fashion, because every time that Senator Young walks across this floor he takes a dead man’s vote with him in his pocket. [More…]
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Today this Opposition, which aspires to lead this country with the great principles about which it prates, won a vote in the Senate and was able to have its will to move an amendment to a loan Bill which is the lifeblood of many Australians. [More…]
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The Bill was’ defeated in that fashion only by the vote of a dead man which the Opposition has, contrary to the convention of this country. [More…]
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The fact that that replacement, in Senator Field, is not here does not remove the fact that the absence of that vote to the Party which should have it means that it cannot prevent the Opposition from doing what it did today. [More…]
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That is when Senator Hall will go out and say that he is a member of a united Liberal Party and that people should vote for him. [More…]
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When Neville Bonner was the first black candidate the National Pam in the north-western area combined on the basis that its members would not vote for him. [More…]
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1 Country Party vote. [More…]
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But he will not hold the seat because no blacks will vote for him. [More…]
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The House is reminded that the trade practices legislation which was said to have been rushed through Parliament lay on the table for seven, eight or nine months for prolonged consideration before being put to the vote. [More…]
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When the Labor Government introduced legislation into this Parliament which was designed to make sure that demarcation disputes would not occur so frequently the then Opposition voted against and denied that legislation. [More…]
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Honourable senators opposite would vote against such legislation again and again. [More…]
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Youngsters, 20-year-olds, who were deprived of a vote - [More…]
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The vote down in the Valley to continue the strike was 2,500 to 20, after 10 weeks on the grass. [More…]
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Against all the pressure of a distressed family they voted not to go back. [More…]
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I have no information as to who issued statements in 1974 asking people to vote for the Whitlam Government. [More…]
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Are the people to be asked to vote for ALP candidates for House of Representatives seats in the full knowledge that if they are foolish enough to elect sufficient of them the government will be run by Mr Dunstan and Mr Hawke, neither of whom will have a seat in this Parliament? [More…]
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The Committee was equally divided on this issue, and it was only by the Chairman’s exercising his casting vote that the report was indeed filed as a majority report. [More…]
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I think the fact that the Committee is equally divided on the recommendation in regard to the law relating to cannabis, with the casting vote of the chairman providing a majority, is an indication of the divergence of opinion which exists in Australia today when we deal with the marihuana situation. [More…]
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They also have a vote, the No. [More…]
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In an unusual device in that place- I think it was in accordance with Standing Order 192 -the House ordered by a unanimous vote that the petition be printed. [More…]
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It was approved by a significant majority- 62 per cent- of all voters and by a majority of voters in three States. [More…]
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This clearly accords with the view of the majority of the Australian people, as reflected in the referendum vote. [More…]
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Does the agreement require a unanimous vote of the Committee before decisions can take effect? [More…]
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The decision of the committee shall require a unanimous vote. [More…]
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We have seen that if the vote for the Labor Party in 1972 were to be again the vote for it in the forthcoming election the Labor Party would win 10 of the 19 seats, which would not be an unreasonable result in the circumstances. [More…]
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According to the 1974 vote the Labor Party would win six seats. [More…]
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Of course, if the vote at the confused election that occurred in 1975 were repeated in 1977 the Labor Party would win only one seat. [More…]
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For some unknown reason we seem to be hell-bent on the idea that every electorate or division has to have approximately the same number of voters. [More…]
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One should look at the figures for the United States of America, which has backed off from the principle of one vote one value, and for Great Britain and so forth. [More…]
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The people out there do not want a greater value for their vote over and above that of any other Australian. [More…]
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Allegedly they dissuaded or deterred members of the Aboriginal community from exercising their right to vote after they had enrolled. [More…]
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We all know that it is not necessarily the responsibility for Aboriginals, once they attain the age of 1 8 years, to enrol as voters. [More…]
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We suggest that if the allegations made before the Court of Disputed Returns in Western Australia were correct and that, in fact, Aborigines were deterred from exercising their right to vote after they had enrolled, it is axiomatic that a number of Aboriginals also could have been deterred from exercising their entitlement to enrol for voting purposes. [More…]
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Moreover- and I suggest this is highly significantthe normal Labor vote in those areas is in the vicinity of 15 per cent. [More…]
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So by the unnecessary inclusion of those three shires in the Federal division of Kalgoorlie the Liberal Party, which currently holds the seat, has gained in net terms in excess of 1,000 votes which could well be enough to enable the Liberal Party to retain the seat at the forthcoming election. [More…]
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Although the electorate met the provisions of the Commonwealth Electoral Act the commissioners decided to add three shires, in which coincidentally the Labor vote is about 15 per cent, to a marginal seat. [More…]
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The Aboriginals are becoming more politically conscious and are voting Labor and, of course, the Liberal Party is trying to cheat them of their right to vote. [More…]
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It just so happened that the adjustments that were made to the Perth boundaries cut out all those areas of the electorate which voted 60 per cent to 65 per cent Labor and incorporated suburbs such as Yokine, Nollamara and Menora which vote about 60 per cent or 65 per cent Liberal. [More…]
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It could be argued that the National Country Party, which gets about 10 per cent of the vote in Western Australia, is entitled to one seat in a State which has 10 divisions. [More…]
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If honourable senators do not like it, they can vote against my motion. [More…]
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The northern portion of Kensington, which tends to vote Liberal, has been excised and put into the electorate of Phillip, thus adding to the strength of the present Liberal encumbent. [More…]
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Those proposals came as a body blow to the Liberal Party, which seeks to obtain in Parliament representation commensurate with the vote it receives in the community. [More…]
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There was genuine outrage that the proposals, as they emerged, would seriously disadvantage the Party in its task of achieving proper representation for those electors who cared to vote for Liberal Party candidates. [More…]
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Equality of representation must be related to the capacity of people to represent the electorate, and with that in view the statistical concept of one vote one value certainly has to be adjusted. [More…]
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I understand that the Opposition intends to vote against the motion. [More…]
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1 do not know whether that was a first past the post system with a vote registered by a cross. [More…]
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But we would be delivering the Government of this country into the hands of a number of people who would obtain 3 per cent or 4 per cent of the national vote. [More…]
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He might have felt that it was inappropriate for him to vote in the Parliament when the Act was being amended. [More…]
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I am sure that the people who were prevailed upon to vote for this Government, particularly the people in country areas who were prevailed upon to support the present Government parties in December 1975, will ask what the Government has been doing in the last two years to honour its promises. [More…]
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The people in the country will have no difficulty arriving at a choice- they will vote Labor. [More…]
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Even fewer people are aware that in Britain itself Estimates were subject to a fairly close scrutiny during a great part of the 19th Century, when occasionally many Government supporters felt strongly enough against certain expenditure items to vote against the Government. [More…]
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It would be unfortunate for the free exercise of the judgment of this House, if the rejection of any portion of a budget were to be construed into a vote of want of confidence. ‘ [More…]
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-I do this for the purpose of formulating a basis of a forum upon which, in the next stage, we shall move to vote as to our view of the proper figure for certain expenses. [More…]
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I, in my spirit of moderation and gradual approach will not be asking for any vote of a decisive character this session. [More…]
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If they do not understand it, is the whole electoral system to be put into the hands of those who are too stupid to be able to exercise a vote? [More…]
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I do not think it was good for democracy when well over 12 per cent of the votes were informal. [More…]
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We can argue about the IQ of voters, but I think even people with a reasonable education become a bit bored, impatient and so on when so many candidates are listed. [More…]
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If they make an error their vote is nullified. [More…]
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As I think I said many times in Opposition, between 1949 and 1975, with the exception of one occasion, the party or parties that obtained the greatest number of votes gained office. [More…]
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Apart from that oddity, all the House of Representatives elections from 1949 to 1975 showed that the party or parties that obtained the greatest popular vote attained or retained office. [More…]
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May I say that he has every reason to be worried because at the last State election I think that there was about seven or eight per cent difference between us in the vote. [More…]
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Given the rate of increase in votes for our Party at each election I expect that Senator Young’s Party will some day be in the minority position in that State. [More…]
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How will he explain his statements of that time to the people he wants to vote for him at the coming election on 10 December? [More…]
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He is now on the political stump trying to woo the people in Hawker to vote for him at the next election. [More…]
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This division is not made in a very pleasant fashion, because every time that Senator Young walks across this floor he takes a dead man’s vote with him in his pocket. [More…]
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He was referring to the present Government- which aspires to lead this country with the great principles about which it prates won a vote in the Senate and was able to have its will to move an amendment to a loan Bill which is the lifeblood of many Australians. [More…]
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The Bill was defeated in that fashion only by the vote of a dead man which the Opposition has, contrary to the convention of this country. [More…]
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The decision of the committee shall require a unanimous vote. [More…]
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I stress the words ‘unanimous vote’. [More…]
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Part of that campaign is to speak in this chamber every Wednesday in the belief that every elector in Hawker is listening to his words which will convince them to vote for him. [More…]
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As we have been touching upon the uranium debate, I should think also that the electors of Hawker who might carefully have read some of Mr Jacobi ‘s speeches on uranium and seen the quite sensible views that he has expressed on that topic- sensible views that he cannot support in a vote because of the attitude of the Labor Caucus to the mining of uranium- would realise that it would be better to be represented by a man who can vote where his mind is rather than by a man who is forced by the rules of the Labor Caucus to vote with the majority of his colleagues. [More…]
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I say to him that in view of his opposition to any form of racial discrimination, I hope he will use his good intentions with some of his colleagues in his State who trooped north during the last Western Australian election to confuse the minds of so many Aborigines in the north of Western Australia over their rights to vote. [More…]
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While I cannot solve this problem of whether we should change the voting system I think, as Senator Sibraa pointed out, that we must recognise the difficulties that exist when a voter is called upon to vote for 73 candidates on a ballot paper, as was the case in New South Wales. [More…]
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The ballot paper becomes informal if a voter does not mark 25’ or ‘26’ on the ballot paper. [More…]
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Such difficulty with the ballot paper for example disenfranchises many of the less literate voters in our society. [More…]
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I commend to those people considering electoral systems which do not favour one party more than another, the fact that over 80 per cent of electors vote in accordance with a party ticket. [More…]
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They enter the voting booth with the howtovote card and try to copy the order of candidates shown on that card on to their ballot paper. [More…]
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The intention of such voters when they enter the booth is to vote in accordance with the party ticket, whether it be the ticket of the Labor Party, the Liberal Party or one of the other parties. [More…]
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In the United States of America it is possible for a voter to vote by making cross marks to indicate that he is voting in accordance with a party ticket. [More…]
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It was stated by Senator Withers that at one time the Labor Opposition voted against a taxation BUI. [More…]
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If a tax is bad, the Senate, as a House of review, should decide this and vote against it. [More…]
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They are also required to vote in divisions which come up from time to time quite unexpectedly. [More…]
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It seeks to deride the benefits of federalism and, therefore, presumably is saying to the Australian electors that if they vote for the Labor Party in a few weeks time they will be voting for a return to uniform taxation. [More…]
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I do not know whether necessarily we have to go to a vote. [More…]
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He thought of one occasion when in his opinion, when a vote of no confidence was taken in the House of Representatives, the Une the Governor-General had taken was the wrong line. [More…]
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When the votes were taken on that amendment you yourself, Mr President, voted for the amendment, so you acquiesced with your Party at that time in the use of those words on more than one occasion against the members of the Parliamentary Labor Party and in particular against the Prime Minister of the day, Mr Whitlam, and his Ministers. [More…]
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Several votes were taken that day. [More…]
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Mr President, the Hansard record shows that on three occasions, you voted in respect of the amendment. [More…]
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I notice also from the Hansard record that Senator Missen who rose to speak in this debate today also voted for the amendment. [More…]
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Senator Carrick- I will refer to him in a moment- also voted for the amendment. [More…]
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If honourable senators look at the vote that was taken on that question, which is recorded at page 1461 of the Senate Hansard of 23 October 1975, they will see what happened. [More…]
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As I said, a vote of no confidence in him was taken and carried. [More…]
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According to the conventions as they should be observed, it was the duty of the Speaker, as instructed by the vote that had been taken, to go to Government House and advise the GovernorGeneral of this. [More…]
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The ASIA has been rendered completely impotent since 1967 from the point of view of having a disciplinary purpose, so now we are told by Mr West in the other House that when the question arose there was not one waterside worker who did not vote for its abolition. [More…]
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Senator Sir MAGNUS CORMACK (Victoria) (4.18)- I do not propose to support the amendment moved by Senator Wright when it comes to the vote. [More…]
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That is what the Senate is being asked to vote on. [More…]
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The Opposition will not vote against the measures. [More…]
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It is easy for those of us who belong to the major parties to talk about the fringe nuisances and all the rest, but there are still citizens and they have the right to attempt to get into Parliament if they can convince sufficient numbers of their fellow citizens to vote for them. [More…]
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There is the argument as to whether the capacity to have a postal vote for any reason should not be allowed. [More…]
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Should one be allowed an absentee vote anywhere in Australia on polling day? [More…]
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In Tasmania one can cast an absentee vote anywhere in the State, but if a Victorian is in Tasmania he must cast a postal vote. [More…]
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In my own State of Western Australia which would encompass, I guess, the area of Tasmania, New South Wales and Victoria put together one can cast an absentee vote anywhere in the State. [More…]
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Why should boundaries decide whether one has a postal vote or an absentee vote? [More…]
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One could mount a respectable argument that anybody anywhere in Austrafia on polling day should have an absentee vote. [More…]
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If somebody from Melbourne is in your area on the Gold Coast, Mr Deputy Chairman, enjoying himself and spending his money freely to keep the Queenslanders rich, why should he have to cast a postal vote before polling day? [More…]
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Why should he not have an absentee vote on polling day? [More…]
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The answer to that question may have an influence on whether members of this chamber vote for the appropriations or reject them. [More…]
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There are some honest members on that side of the House, and I believe that if a case is made out they will vote on the principle of honesty and justice. [More…]
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It ought to be assessed and we really ought to defer this vote and allow the Government one month in which to put before us a 10-foolscap-page summary of the cost benefits of computers and their cost disadvantages in terms of employment. [More…]
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He has said that if the people don’t vote for his man they won ‘t get money for the dam, Mr Burns said. [More…]
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Mr Burns said the Premier, having suppressed freedom of expression, was now trying to stop freedom of choice as far as a vote was concerned. [More…]
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He is telling electors that if they don’t vote for Mr Bertoni they will get nothing. [More…]
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The very basis of democracy is threatened if we have the threat of reprimand hanging over us for the way in which we vote at an election. [More…]
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He claimed reports indicated Mr Bjelke-Petersen was threatening Mount Isa voters with a government withdrawal of funds if they did not vote for the National Party member. [More…]
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I ask the Minister for Administrative Services: Has he been informed that the Western Australian Government has introduced a Bill into the Western Australian Parliament to amend that State’s electoral legislation to preclude illiterate voters from voting by way of postal vote and also to prevent presiding officers in Western Australia from accepting written material giving a preference or an order of preference as an illiterate voter’s instruction? [More…]
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Will the Minister agree that such legislation will make it more difficult rather than easier for such people to cast a vote in State elections? [More…]
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Further, will the Minister request the Commonwealth Australian Electoral Officer to take all steps within his power to advise all Australians especially Aboriginal Australians of their rights to enrol and cast a vote for House of Representatives and Senate candidates at the elections next month. [More…]
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As a result of the steps taken by the Electoral Office in the Northern Territory, no Aborigine was disadvantaged in his attempt to vote. [More…]
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He and I are totally agreed that there is an obligation on the Government to do more in an educational process for all people in Australia who are suffering from some disadvantage through language difficulties or educational problems so that they can vote according to their intention. [More…]
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Will the Minister agree that the reluctance by the Foreign Affairs Minister to allow Mr Justice Fox to speak directly to the Australian people on this crucial matter- a matter on which the people will be expected to vote in a few weeks time- is serving to confuse the uranium debate and hence cast more doubts by the Australian people about the Government’s policy? [More…]
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I thought honourable senators opposite would have said that that comes closer to the principle of one man, one vote, if that is the catchcry - [More…]
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-Is it one vote, one value? [More…]
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At the same time, perhaps in respect of the same vote, I indicate that the Labor Party opposes clause 4 of the Commonwealth Electoral Amendment BUI (No. [More…]
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I hasten for the comfort of Senator Colston to assure him that I intend to vote for this Bill and not stand in the path of Queensland getting this additional $24.8m. [More…]
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I notice this morning that Mrs Yvonne McComb, the State President of the Liberal Party in Queensland, in referring to the statements made about Mrs Bonner, said that Mr Bjelke-Petersen must realise that everyone has a democratic right to vote for any political party. [More…]
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They may not want to vote against one party and vote for the Australian Labor Party. [More…]
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They could be intimidated even in the future by the threat that if they do not vote for the Premier and his candidates they will receive no benefits whatsoever. [More…]
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In referring to the electorates he has said that if people do not vote for his candidates and his Party they will get no help at all. [More…]
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I suggest that come 12 November there will be many swinging voters in Queensland who will, I hope, see the logic of casting their vote in the right direction. [More…]
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Whether they are voters in rural districts or in city electorates, they have now to realise that one man cannot be allowed to get away, as the Premier has been doing, with fooling the people into believing that he is the best thing that ever happened to Queensland. [More…]
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Mr Bjelke-Petersen said that, if people in Mount Isa exercise their democratic right to vote for the individual they want to vote for and that individual just does not happen to be bis candidate, they are not likely to see the money for the Lake Julius Dam. [More…]
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We believe firmly that the rights of people under the Social Services Act should be written clearly; that there should be as few discretions as possible in the legislation, and that if there is a need for change it should be done by bringing it to the public and submitting it to the vote in this Parliament. [More…]
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However, when her leader brought on a hurried election and the Government had to scamper around and bring in something that would appeal for votes, it sought to amend the Bill and afford provision over and above what the Budget had contemplated. [More…]
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It brought in this amendment as a vote catcher. [More…]
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There was no mention in the Budget of assisting beef producers, until the cattlemen’s union passed a vote of no confidence in the Minister for Primary Industry. [More…]
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That responsibility was given to the Parliament by the people of Australia in an overwhelming vote at the 1967 referendum when this Parliament was given the power to make special laws for the Aboriginal people of this country. [More…]
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If the Premier of Queensland says that Bonner is a political activist because he tells people to enrol and speaks on street corners during an election campaign asking the people to vote for the Liberal Party, is the Premier going to ask the Federal Government to withdraw me from the Senate because I am a political activist? [More…]
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What is occurring in Queensland is similar to the situation in Western Australia at the moment where, because an Aboriginal candidate was successful in an appeal to the tribunal, the Premier of that State has decided to motivate his Party to introduce legislation to prevent every nonliterate Aboriginal in the electoral seat of Kimberly, or in any other seat in Western Australia, from having the right to vote in an election. [More…]
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Under the proposed legislation they will no longer be able to use a how to vote card setting out the names of the candidates. [More…]
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I defy any honourable senator or any member of the community to go into a polling booth in a Senate election such as we saw in New South Wales in 1975, when there were some 70-odd candidates, and not take his how to vote card with him so that he will know who to vote for in the ordinary sequence set out on the how to vote cards. [More…]
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A traditional Aborigine might have a matriculation standard knowledge of his own language but, because he is non-literate in the English language, he will be forbidden to cast a vote. [More…]
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They have voted against the policies of this Government. [More…]
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That was done in the Northern Territory and in the Kimberleys in Western Australia, where the law has now to be altered so that the Aboriginals cannot have an effective vote in the politics of Australia. [More…]
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He has acquiesced with the request of Mr Bjelke-Petersen, the Premier of Queensland, because these people had the audacity- and I might mention that Senator Bonner has already spoken about this matter in the Parliament today- to ask their own people to fill in enrolment cards so that they could exercise the right of every Australian citizen over the age of 18 years to vote at elections. [More…]
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But Mr Bjelke-Petersen does not want Aboriginals to be enrolled so that they can vote. [More…]
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We have seen the Electoral Act altered in Western Australia to deprive illiterate Aborigines of a postal vote or seeking the assistance of a scrutineer at a polling booth to enable them to cast a vote for the candidate whose photo they point to on a how-to-vote card. [More…]
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At least Mr Court, the West Australian Premier, will not be able to deprive illiterate Aborigines of the opportunity to vote in the Federal election. [More…]
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Under the Commonwealth Electoral Act any voter has the right to seek the assistance of any person to assist him to cast a vote. [More…]
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He rushed legislation through the State Parliament to prevent the illiterate Aboriginal people from applying for postal votes and from having persons assist them at the polling booth. [More…]
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He was hoping that the candidate who ran so close to his Minister in the election in the Kimberleys would not have the benefit of the vote from the Aboriginals despite the fact that the Labor candidate is an Aboriginal himself. [More…]
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Under the proposed amendments, effectively it will not be able to do this; that is, members of the Tribunal can be seconded to an inquiry, and they then effectively have to have what is called a meeting of the Tribunal when the majority opinion prevails, including the casting vote of the Chairman. [More…]
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Therefore, this action has prevented those people being eligible to vote at the forthcoming election. [More…]
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In relation to the Brigalow Lands Agreement Amendment Bill, Senator Gietzelt said that the Government had moved only after a vote of no confidence in the Minister for Primary Industry (Mr Sinclair) had been carried in Toowoomba. [More…]
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Will the other members of the board be able to out vote the Treasurer’s nominee or will the Treasurer have the power of veto? [More…]
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I say that because I think that what the Premier of Queensland is really saying is: ‘If the Federal Parliament regards it as the right of every Australian citizen to contest Federal elections- to vote in them but, more importantly, to contest them- as far as certain Australians are concerned, I shall take it upon myself to qualify those individual political rights which are accorded to all Australians and the qualifications will be that the right to stand for Parliament is extended to all Australian citizens except teachers employed in Queensland ‘. [More…]
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On 10 December 1977 the Liberal Party of Australia polled for the House of Representatives 38.1 per cent of the national vote, the Australian Labor Party 39.7 per cent, the National Country Party 10 per cent and the Australian Democrats 9.4 per cent. [More…]
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In effect, the figures show, taking the Senate figures, that 54 out of every 100 Australians were sufficiently sceptical of the Liberal Party policy as put forward in November or were dissatisfied enough with the Government’s performance during its 1975-1977 term to vote against it. [More…]
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The Opposition acknowledges that the Government got an overwhelming vote last December. [More…]
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I believe it got the overwhelming vote because of the Labor Party’s threat to take away the taxation reductions that were coming in February. [More…]
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In fact we even got a 62 per cent vote for the fourth referendum, although it did not get the necessary four-State majority but achieved a three-all result. [More…]
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The Australian Government did not vote against the resolution, but instead showed a degree of support by abstaining. [More…]
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As it was so close to the date of the election, one wonders why Mr Peacock could not have informed the Australian people of the Government’s intention before 10 December so as to allow the citizens of Australia to vote on this issue, to make up their minds whether they believed that Indonesia had the right to move in and take over East Timor. [More…]
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I believe that it realised the depth of public support within Australia for the people of East Timor and consequently it would not inform them of the impending sellout in a situation in which they, the people, could exercise a vote on the matter. [More…]
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A person in the Antarctic would have to send to Australia for an application form for a postal vote. [More…]
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While an illiterate person can get a vote it is almost impossible for a quadraplegic in a hospital, without a mobile polling booth, to apply for a postal vote. [More…]
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I also have in mind Australians abroad who tend to lose the right to vote at our national elections. [More…]
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Certainly committee members frequently vote on non-party lines. [More…]
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But just as frequently members vote and committees are divided on party lines. [More…]
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Why should they not be cynical when the Premier of Queensland campaigns on the basis that if the people of an electorate do not vote for his party that electorate will get nothing and if they do vote for it he will look after that electorate? [More…]
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An analysis of the total Australian Labor Party vote for the Senate against the ALP vote for the House of Representatives in New South Wales shows that the ALP proportion of the vote in percentage terms was a full 2 per cent smaller for the Senate than for the House of Representatives. [More…]
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A large percentage of people, without a doubt, wanted to cast a formal Senate vote but were thwarted by the outdated and complicated Senate system under which we are presently operating. [More…]
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In NSW the percentage of informal votes was down to 9 per cent. [More…]
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But the scrutineers told me that practically all of the 9 per cent of people tried to cast a deliberate formal vote. [More…]
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There was not a very large protest vote by people not even trying to vote. [More…]
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Because the Act is complicated and because these people are casual employees they become just as confused as the people who are trying to vote. [More…]
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In a number of rural electorates the percentage of the informal vote was much higher than the State average in New South Wales. [More…]
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In the Senate election- also on a two-party preferred basis- the Liberal Party received 55.9 per cent of the votes and the Labor Party received 44. [More…]
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If we look at the State figures for South Australia we find that the Liberal Party, combined with the Country Party and the Australian Democrats, polled 46.5 per cent of the votes, whilst the Labor Party polled 53.8 per cent of the votes. [More…]
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I think this is something that has been reflected in the Federal vote and something that must be looked at in the future in South Australia. [More…]
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Was it to appease people and to make sure that he maximised his vote in the State election? [More…]
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The answer clearly is in the hands of the Liberal Party in Queensland which, if it wished, could form a loose arrangement with the Australian Labor Party to ensure that there are proper electorates in Queensland, electorates which will more properly reflect the vote that is cast and electorates which are not malapportioned as they are now. [More…]
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I, along with certain others in this chamber, remember clearly that Mr Chipp and others were party to supporting a Yes vote in a referendum which, if carried, would certainly have damaged this chamber. [More…]
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Without doubt, the overwhelming mood of the electorate in 1977 was one of weariness and cynicism; not necessarily weariness at having to vote again, because there was a special situation in Queensland in that only one month earlier there had been voting for the State election. [More…]
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I do not think that Australians are so careless of their rights in a democracy that they objected to having to vote again. [More…]
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But continually I heard from voters during the campaign throughout Queensland a sentiment expressed which concerned me greatly. [More…]
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These were not necessarily voters who were being motivated to vote for the Australian Democrats as a result of their disillusionment. [More…]
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These were people who had a firm view in support of the Liberal Party, the National Party or the Labor Party but voted without any great joy for any of those parties. [More…]
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In the elections held in South Africa in 1974, which were elections in which only whites were able to vote, the Progressive Party- a party which may be a capitalist party and which may have all sorts of planks in its platform with which I would not agree but which is certainly a party that is committed to racial equality within South Africa and an equal voice for all citizens in the government of South Africa- won seven seats, having won only one seat in the previous elections when Mrs Suzman, who for many years was its only member, was re-elected. [More…]
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I agree that it is small, but the very fact that one is able to find amongst white South Africans enough voters in 1 7 electorates to give a majority to people who are openly committed to racial equality shows that there is a substantial number of white people within South Africa who do believe in racial equality. [More…]
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I hope that when history is recorded and the people of Australia are finally fully aware of what took place on that occasion the Fraser Government, those people who sit behind him and those people who supported him in those actions will levy the just punishment on him; namely, that they will vote him out of office. [More…]
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They did not vote in favour of Mr Tonkin; they voted in favour of Mr Dunstan. [More…]
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During all the years when Playford was in office, sometimes with less than 40 per cent of the vote, he did not object. [More…]
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16 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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In 1941 the ALP won 33.25 per cent of the vote and the Liberal Party 37.49 per cent, again a majority which enabled it to form a government. [More…]
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In April 1944 the ALP obtained 42.26 per cent of the vote and the Liberal Party 44.84 per cent. [More…]
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That was the last occasion in any South Australian election that the Liberal Party polled the majority of votes. [More…]
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Yet we go on for a series of years- I shall quote them seriatim- to find that: In 1947 the ALP won 48.64 per cent of the vote and the LCL 40.38. [More…]
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This is where the statement of Senator Young comes in, because he said that where any party gained 50-plus per cent of the vote it should form a government. [More…]
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Going on to 1965, we find that we had to obtain 55.04 per cent of the vote to win government in that State. [More…]
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The latter formed a government, although we obtained 9 per cent more of the vote. [More…]
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Going on to 1970, we find that Labor obtained 52.14 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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That was the first time since 1965 that the Liberals, though not having a majority of the vote, failed to form a government. [More…]
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If a majority vote for representation then the Act would be worded in such a way that workers could proceed to elect a third of board representatives. [More…]
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His difficult decision gave the people the opportunity to vote and uphold the Parliamentary system. [More…]
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The fact is that we do not know why people vote as they do. [More…]
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It is very difficult in Australia, more difficult than it is in the United States and the United Kingdom where studies have been done, to find out why people vote in a particular way. [More…]
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We think we know that some Australian Labor Party supporters vote pretty much as a group. [More…]
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We think we know that there are coalition supporters who vote as a group. [More…]
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The Leader of the Government in the Senate (Senator Withers) indicated to us yesterday that a newspaper called the Australian Financial Review encouraged everyone to vote Labor. [More…]
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He feels that that newspaper is encouraging people to vote Labor. [More…]
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I did not ask any of them their political views, but they were deeply disappointed that they were unable to cast a vote in the general election. [More…]
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I do not think that it is beyond the bounds of possibility that the Commonwealth Electoral Act could be amended- I know that the Leader of the Government, Senator Withers, has acknowledged that it would be possible- to provide for votes to be cast in a place like the Antarctic. [More…]
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Ballot papers could be prepared, and votes cast. [More…]
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That would mean that all Australians had an opportunity to vote. [More…]
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They are doing a wonderful job for this country, giving up a substantial part of their lives to go down there to serve this country and the country ought to acknowledge it to the extent of providing them with a vote when the country goes to the polls. [More…]
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In only one electorate it obtained more than 40 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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That was in the electorate of Fremantle, where it got the magnificent primary vote of 45.1 per cent. [More…]
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If one wants to examine Labor’s performance one can look at the electorate of Canning, where Labor polled 26.9 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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In the electorate of Perth, which Labor once held, and in which the sitting Liberal member got an absolute majority, the Labor Party managed to poll 35.3 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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Of course, in the electorate of Curtin, which reasonably can be regarded as a blue ribbon seat and which encompasses the State electorate represented by Sir Charles Court- that terrible man who wants us all to live in a ‘State of Excitement’, as Senator Coleman would have us believe- the Labor Party polled 24.4 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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If we turn to the electorate of Kalgoorlie, which contains all of the great mining area of Pilbara and the mines of Kalgoorlie- the heartland of the Labor Party, which I think the Labor Party held from about 1901 until it lost the seat first in 1958- we see that the Labor Party did rather well; it polled 37.4 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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In Stirling it managed to poll 32.1 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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In Forrest, where I once used to live, it won 27.8 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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Then if we turn to the electorate of Moore, in which my colleague Senator Drake-Brockman lived for many years, we find that the Labor Party managed to win 23.8 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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Honourable senators will recall that Labor endorsed some swinging candidate and could not even win 40 per cent of the vote- it won 39.6 per cent. [More…]
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In Tangney, which the Labor Party once held, it managed to win 33.2 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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-Has the Minister for Administrative Services been made aware of a report by the Australian Electoral Office stating that 731,555 Australians, or 9 per cent of the total poll, voted informally at the Senate election last December? [More…]
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Does the Minister agree that the magnitude of the informal vote is a national disgrace? [More…]
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-I thought the Australian electorate voted very sensibly at the last two elections. [More…]
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The honourable senator referred to an overall informal vote of 9 per cent being cast for the [More…]
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I should imagine that my State of Western Australia would have a lower informal vote than most others, being more sensible. [More…]
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The number of informal votes cast varies from election to election. [More…]
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I am assuming that the government of the day will vote the funds necessary for the construction to be completed. [More…]
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The fact is that years ago the site of the building was decided by an overwhelming vote. [More…]
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As far as Government senators are concerned this will be a totally free vote. [More…]
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On the other hand, if an Opposition senator were to present as a matter of public importance the proposition that the Senate was worried about the state of unemployment in Australia, I think it is fair to say that if there were to be no vote upon it, and the Government were not to be seen to be censured, we would get a far more sensible debate and would not be attempting to play party politics on such matters of public importance. [More…]
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There are a large number of issues in the community which are important and on which certainly there will be disputation across party lines; that is fair enough, but there are equally a great number of issues on which the Senate could have more sensible and reasonable debate if at the conclusion thereof there were not to be a vote on which Liberals must line up with Liberals, on which our National Party colleagues feel they must join with us and on which Labor Party supporters feel they must line up together in opposition to what is being put. [More…]
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I will not formally vote against the second reading of the Bill because I find the substance of clause 9 acceptable. [More…]
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Therefore, I hope that all the honourable senators who recognise that this Parliament should not surrender more of its authority to the Executive government will vote for the amendment which I have moved. [More…]
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That is no more clearly stated than in the Yes case which received an overwhelming vote in 1967 when that referendum went to the people. [More…]
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It is, I think, a comfort to those of us who believe there is a Federal responsibility to examine the figures and the attitudes which were expressed by voters in Australia in that referendum. [More…]
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Over 900,000 Queenslanders were eligible to vote in the referendum. [More…]
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Of the 848,000 people who voted, 748,000 voted for the proposition. [More…]
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Against that, only 90,000 voted against the proposition. [More…]
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So the ratio of Yes to No votes in Queensland was eight to one which is a pretty good indication that there is massive support in that State for the proposition that the Commonwealth has a constitutional responsibility. [More…]
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Noonuccle Nughie Cogaoperation Stradbroke Island urge all Federal parliamentarians to vote in favour of takeover or to resume responsibility for Aboriginal affairs Queensland to ensure Federal Government policy on self determination and management for Aboriginal people is honestly implemented. [More…]
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When a vote has been taken for the Minister to spend a certain sum of money in the current year, he can spend that amount wherever he likes after he reaches agreement. [More…]
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There is no way whatever in which we can object to them unless we adopt the tactics of the Government when it was in opposition and refuse to vote for Supply, thus forcing a dissolutionif we had the numbers. [More…]
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The only other way we could object would be to vote against Supply. [More…]
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Possibly we shall vote an annual sum of money for the Minister to utilise under the legislation. [More…]
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However, I do not have the right to vote. [More…]
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It so happens that there is an equal number of members from both the Government and the Opposition on the Committee with the chairman having a casting vote. [More…]
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It is not accurate to say that the Government has a majority; it has a casting vote majority. [More…]
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I see no reason why another honourable senator who is not a member of the committee but who has an interest in attending subsequently the hearings of the Estimates committees and who can participate but not vote should not also attend that preparatory meeting so that he can have some opportunity to make an input into what sort of preparation work would be conducted and have the product of that preparation work made available to him. [More…]
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I think that our standing committees work well, notwithstanding the fact that Government senators are appointed as chairmen and have a casting vote. [More…]
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I think that our Estimates committees have worked well notwithstanding the fact that Government senators have been appointed as chairmen and have a casting vote. [More…]
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As I have already pointed out, under Standing Order 36AB (10), individual senators who are not members of an Estimates committee have the right to participate in its public sessions and to question witnesses, unless the Committee orders otherwise; but they cannot vote. [More…]
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I also say to Senator Walsh that rather than his Party, both Federal and State, setting up committees to discover why it lost the last election it ought to be looking at his remarks and wondering why the workers of Australia will not vote for the Australian Labor Party. [More…]
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The Australian Government then joined with the overwhelming majority of the nations of the world in a vote of 72 to 10, with 43 abstentions. [More…]
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Of course there was a great deal of preparation before the actual vote was taken in the United Nations. [More…]
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It will be interesting to see whether they, like most of their colleagues in the House of Representatives, will be content with windy rhetoric on the subject or whether they will do something a little bit courageous and actually cross the floor and vote for this amendment. [More…]
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When the referendums were held last year a direction was sent to every island community regarding the way they had to vote. [More…]
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There has been no fair go at the Doomadgee Mission which, generally speaking, has been totally controlled by the National Party from 1967, when Aboriginals earned the right to vote by the carriage of the referendum, until the State election in 1977. [More…]
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In my own State of Queensland there was an almost 90 per cent yes vote in the 1967 referendum. [More…]
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The lowest yes vote in any of the 18 Queensland electoral divisions was 84 per cent. [More…]
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In 1967, I repeat, almost 90 per cent of the people of Queensland voted yes. [More…]
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The lowest yes vote in any of the 1 8 electoral divisions was 84 per cent. [More…]
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He also appoints the chairman, who has the deciding vote. [More…]
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It was said in the Queensland Parliament yesterday- it has been alluded to outside this chamber but within this building- that the vote for unity at Aurukun was not carried. [More…]
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In the minutes of the 1974 Assembly of the Presbyterian Church the vote at Mornington Island was recorded as 63 to 3 in favour of church union. [More…]
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At Aurukun there were 147 voting delegates but, because on the day on which the vote was taken many were away, perhaps fishing or hunting, only 12 voted. [More…]
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Nine of these were staff who are no longer there, and the vote was six to six. [More…]
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So it is a misnomer to say to the world at large that the vote in northern Australia amongst the Aboriginal was very definitely against the church union. [More…]
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It might be worth mentioning at this stage that the Aboriginal has started to realise that his vote is also important and in future elections the vote may be used as some sort of weapon. [More…]
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I crave for the opportunity denied in the vote at 2.30 this afternoon. [More…]
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But when the home is establishedand established it ought to be- the Aborigine will have the same inviolability, so far as I can vote for it, as the Englishman has had for two centuries. [More…]
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If honourable senators have good memories they may remember that on the occasion of the first double dissolution they issued a statement in the Press asking people to vote for the Whitlam Government. [More…]
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Does he think it is right that they should use their positions as church leaders to tell people to vote for the Labor Party? [More…]
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I draw the attention of the Minister to an article in the Melbourne Age which stated that Australia had abstained from a United Nations Human Rights Commission vote which declared that Israel was guilty of war crimes and supported Palestine Liberation Organisation military action to gain its objectives, while the United States, Canada and Britain voted against the resolution. [More…]
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If the report is true, will the Minister state whether or not this is Government policy for future United Nations votes on these issues? [More…]
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Did they take any notice of that vote? [More…]
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When it came to the vote on whether they would unite, and I asked for my ballot paper they said; ‘Oh no, you can’t have a vote. ‘ [More…]
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I do not care how people vote. [More…]
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No doubt they are trying to win the Aboriginal vote. [More…]
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I agree it seems odd that a white man who goes on to a reserve administered by a council for which, of course, he does not vote may not be under the control of that council in terms of behaviour. [More…]
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We have heard in this place the thrust of the argument of Senator Walsh, who leads for the Opposition in this matter, in proposing an amendment on which we will vote shortly. [More…]
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If the honourable senator is suggesting that, in the face of a more than 90 per cent affirmative vote in a referendum in which the issues were clearly espoused and in which the views of the Queenslanders about the areas of responsibility were clearly expressed, the High Court could find some degree of uncertainty or some legal anomaly then it seems to me that there is something wrong with the High Court. [More…]
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Senator Carrick then, by the very narrowest of margins- I understand by even a tied vote- managed to sell it to his Liberal Party front bench colleagues of the day. [More…]
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If an individual member has a direct pecuniary interest which might affect his judgment on any matter, that member can be asked either not to participate or certainly not to vote on the matter. [More…]
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One can discount their views by taking into account the fact that they have an interest, and I agree that perhaps they ought not to vote on any decision to be made by the council. [More…]
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Although I did not vote against the second reading of this Bill, I think it is irresponsible and unacceptable. [More…]
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Inasmuch as the majority of the Senate is otherwise disposed, I did not feel, as a lone voice, that it was necessary to vote any other way. [More…]
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1 ) Does section 39a of the Commonwealth Electoral Act 1918 deprive the adult dependants of servicemen overseas of a vote in circumstances where they have ceased to live in the subdivision for which they were enrolled and to which they have no fixed intention of returning. [More…]
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Is the serviceman entitled to vote irrespective of his future intentions as to residence. [More…]
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I take a guess that the advice should have been: ‘Even if you are not on the roll, go along on polling day and apply for a section 121 vote because there may have been a printer’s error and your name may have been dropped off the roll but you will still be properly on the roll through the central index.’ [More…]
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The Electoral Act contains specific provisions for the section votes. [More…]
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The honourable senator picked out the waterside workers, but if one looks at the air traffic controllers, and I would call them the middle-class militants, I am certain that most of them vote for the Liberal Party; some might even vote for the National Country Party, and that is their right. [More…]
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A lot of people in the small white collar unions and technical unions would be horrified if it was suggested to them that they should vote for the Labor Party, much less for ACTU affiliation. [More…]
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All commercial woolgrowers were entitled to vote at the 1973 referendum. [More…]
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Because of partnership arrangements some small properties had several votes while very large companies had one. [More…]
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Less than 50 per cent of those entitled to vote did so and the embargo was retained on the basis of about a 26 per cent Yes vote of those entitled to vote in 1973. [More…]
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I hope that the socialists on the other side of the chamber will realise that by pandering to one national group which it thinks will vote for it, it will not get those votes because the majority of migrants in Australia, those who really want to settle down, realise that the socialists are only using them as a political football. [More…]
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I suspect that they will not vote for that amendment. [More…]
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I strongly urge any honourable senators on the other side who are willing to take the rational view of this matter, and unwilling just to pass the buck as Senator Archer proposes to do, to vote for the amendment that we have moved; firstly, because it ensures that there will be reasonable continuity in the volume of plantings which are required to provide self-sufficiency, and secondly, because at this time, with the economy deep in recession, there is an extraordinarily good case for public capital investment of this nature. [More…]
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As I said earlier, I look forward to seeing other supporters on the Government side joining with Senator Wright and supporting the Opposition when a vote is taken on that amendment. [More…]
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I do not know whether it was a part of the problem but I do know that since I have been in this place I have found that matters to be decided by an election of producers always raise the question of who is to have a vote. [More…]
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Many of my friends who live close to Melbourne and have a handful of cattle or fowls or sheep seem to get a vote on many things when they have not one vestige of interest in them so far as their livelihood is concerned. [More…]
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The point as to when a person should have a vote would appear to me to be a very important matter in deciding this issue. [More…]
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However, it was not within my power to decide who would have a vote if such an election were held. [More…]
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When the resolutions on these two matters came before delegates for the vote, the Australian votes, which consist, under IPU rules, of 13 votes, were divided, after full, friendly discussions, among members of the delegations. [More…]
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On the first item the votes were 6 ayes, 3 noes, 4 abstentions, and on the second item 6 ayes, 7 noes. [More…]
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What is being said is that the majority of Opposition senators, except me and possibly Senator Janine Haines, would not vote for that proposition. [More…]
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Government; firstly, that legislation that comes before this chamber should receive mature consideration and, secondly, that it should be introduced in accordance with a timetable which would enable honourable senators to do their homework on it and to vote in an appropriate fashion. [More…]
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My attention has been directed to an article which appears in today’s issue of the Australian Financial Review and which is entitled: ‘Surprise US vote alters Austn beef outlook ‘. [More…]
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There was almost a 90 per cent ‘ Yes ‘ vote for the 1 967 referendum in Queensland. [More…]
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The lowest ‘Yes’ vote in any one of the eighteen Queensland electoral divisions was 84 per cent; therefore, the vast majority of Queenslanders support Commonwealth responsibility in Aboriginal affairs. [More…]
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If they are consistent they should all vote against this legislation. [More…]
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The assertion made yesterday by Senator Lewis that the people of this country voted at the last election for the mining, milling and use of uranium is nonsense. [More…]
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They did not vote for that at all. [More…]
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If the Government believes that the people of this country voted for the mining of uranium, I challenge it to hold a referendum and to ask the people of Australia how they feel. [More…]
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We again sincerely urge you to cast your vote against these pieces of legislation. [More…]
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The question was put to voters in a referendum on 7 March in Kern County which includes the town of Wasco, and the answer was a resounding ‘no’. [More…]
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The San Joaquin Valley Nuclear Project was rejected by a vote of 47,282 to 20,591, a margin of more than two to one. [More…]
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Although not legally binding, the vote was likely to result either in outright cancellation of the project or in its transfer to a site outside Kern County. [More…]
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The inquiry recommended and the Government agrees that CSIRO is to continue to operate as a single statutory authority, funded in the main by a specific government vote and its staff be employed under the Science and Industry Research Act rather than the Public Service Act. [More…]
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Following my announcement, supported by the Country Party Senate group and other Liberal senators to vote against some aspects of the proposed uranium legislation because of lack of Northern Territory participation, I visited Darwin with Rt Hon. [More…]
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I am sure that he will and, when we come to vote on this proposal moved by my colleague Senator Wriedt, I have no doubt that the honourable senator will have those factors in his mind. [More…]
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We still fought on until it came to a vote in the Senate. [More…]
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But before coming to a vote in the Senate I remember that Sir Robert Menzies asked Senator Wright and me to see him, which we did. [More…]
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So, we made our decision and we voted against that tax. [More…]
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I hope you will recognise that it has gone before the people and I hope that you will vote for the various aspects of the policy.’ [More…]
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Senator Withers then went on at some length to explain why he intended to vote against the Inter-State Commission Bill on 21 May 1975. [More…]
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However, it is not the sort of criticism which would lead me to vote against these Bills which are part of a whole package of legislationthe ‘nuclear package’ as it has been called. [More…]
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But what is he going to do when we have the vote on this legislation later on tonight? [More…]
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I seek leave to have this extract which is headed ‘Conservationists Win Alaska Wilderness Vote ‘ incorporated in Hansard. [More…]
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CONSERVATIONISTS WIN ALASKA WILDERNESS VOTE [More…]
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The 20-24 vote was a key victory for conservationists. [More…]
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The amendment was passed 8 March on a 27-15 vote. [More…]
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When the vote on the second reading of a previous Bill was taken two members of the Liberal Party crossed the floor and sat on the other side, not because they were opposed to the mining of uranium but because they were concerned about certain aspects within that proposed legislation. [More…]
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The person presiding at a meeting of the Council has a deliberative vote and, in the event of an equality of votes, also has a casting vote. [More…]
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Of course I will vote against it. [More…]
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I am concerned about this provision too, although I shall not vote against the amendment. [More…]
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I support him strongly and, of course, I urge honourable senators to vote for the defeat of this motion. [More…]
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That is the Wriedt statement upon which the gentlemen and ladies of this chamber, responsible in judgment, have been asked by him to vote that they have no confidence in a Minister whose experience as Leader of the Opposition and Leader of the Government for five or seven years has induced in everyone a solid respect for management of the chamber with due deference to all the requirements of minorities and individuals and a tolerance of discussion amongst members of his Party, who hold the privilege of independently expressing their views, unlike a cartload of Caucus members. [More…]
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But there is no compulsion upon any person receiving a ballot paper actually to vote and return it. [More…]
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There is but a compulsion to receive a ballot paper and have a capacity to vote. [More…]
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I do not have the figures as to how many members voted and what percentage of membership they represented. [More…]
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Passed by a vote of 94 to 10 against . [More…]
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In this article Mr Cochrane is reported to have said the vote was 94 to 10 but in the letter he sent to Mr Fraser he said that the motions were passed by an overwhelming majority at a meeting of 200 citizens. [More…]
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Of course they did not all vote. [More…]
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About 96 people did not vote. [More…]
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Of course they did not vote. [More…]
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Every decision taken by the Crow leaders must be approved by a majority vote in tribal council. [More…]
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This can be interpreted only as a tacit vote of no confidence in his own Minister for Primary Industry when he has to intervene in agricultural matters that often. [More…]
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If Senator Walsh feels so strongly about the matter I would have thought he would have at least convinced his caucus to vote against the Bill and not just come in here and nit pick at it and tell us what a disaster it is. [More…]
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I find it extremely difficult to understand how any Government supporter or any member of the Senate can vote on such a proposition. [More…]
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It must be a terrible bind to have to vote on a proposition which may, in some cases, mean a difference of many hundreds of thousands of dollars. [More…]
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How can any honourable senator in this place vote for this legislation without first establishing an alternative way by which his wealth can be taxed. [More…]
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It would be more ethical for parliamentarians in respect of this sort of legislation to establish firstly the alternative which the Opposition is proposing before they vote on it. [More…]
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I wonder in what position the Prime Minister (Mr Malcolm Fraser) found himself when he voted on this legislation. [More…]
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Today, the descendants of those who acquired, by fraudulent means, these vast fortunes sit in Parliament and vote for legislation to permit the unimpeded inter-generational transfers of those ill-gotten gains. [More…]
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I remind the Senate, in order that we will know the substance of the vote taken at the second reading stage, that the first change that is made by the Bills relating to estate duty is that estate duty will not be payable by the estate of a person who died on or after 2 1 November 1977- that was part of the election policy promise- in respect of” a family property that is passing to the surviving spouse, a child, a grandchild, a parent or a grandparent of the deceased person. [More…]
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The resentment against the use of the gag on that occasion to ram through the referendum proposals and to prevent people who felt strongly about these matters from having an opportunity even to say why it was that they proposed to vote against them will take some years to work out of the system. [More…]
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What has happened is that there has been caucusing, party division and a situation in which the real matters have not received proper discussion, in which they have received a caucus vote from a number of executive appointments from both the major political parties in this country. [More…]
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It is one thing for some people to say that 60 per cent of the people of Australia voted in favour of simultaneous elections– [More…]
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The average Australian voter is intelligent, he does pay attention to the issues and he casts an intelligent vote. [More…]
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The referendum result meant that in three of the six States a majority of voters saw themselves as people in a smaller State threatened by what was happening. [More…]
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Some people have said that there is no point in putting up proposals for constitutional reform because people will not vote for them. [More…]
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It has been said that they are just ‘ no ‘ voters, that a majority of them are negative voters or that a majority of people in a majority of the States are negative voters and that we cannot get a referendum through. [More…]
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What was demonstrated last year was that where we put up sensible reform people will vote yes and where we put up dangerous reform, the people of some States or of some parts of Australia will vote no. [More…]
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Constitution of the Commonwealth of Australia was accepted by popular vote in all the six colonies in 1900. [More…]
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The Constitution was brought into being as a result of a popular vote. [More…]
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The vote was State by State. [More…]
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-My question is directed to the Minister for Education, and I put it understanding that recurrent and equipment funds for the Maritime College in Launceston are to be provided each year from the education vote, to be decided by the Advanced Education Council in the normal way, having regard to the priorities of all the colleges. [More…]
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I therefore ask: Is it a fact that funds for the operation and maintenance of the proposed Casey university will not be provided through the Tertiary Education Commission but through a separate defence vote? [More…]
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To that question, 71 per cent of those who voted voted no. [More…]
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The best that the present Minister has so far managed is the puerile argument that only 26 per cent of all growers voted to retain the embargo because less than 50 per cent voted altogether. [More…]
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If that principle were to be applied to governments, it would mean that in every country of the world where optional voting prevails- I think that that is every country except Australia- the parties which are now in government would be in opposition, on the ground that less than 50 per cent of the total people entitled to vote voted for them, and the parties which lost the election would be in government. [More…]
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What was his attitude on 1 1 November 1975 when a vote was taken in the House of Representatives? [More…]
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that leave be given to honourable senators to move motions expressing opinions or making recommendations based on the reports of the Estimates Committees; that such motions be moved when the appropriate vote is under consideration; that where more than one motion is proposed in relation to a particular vote the motions may be debated together but in all cases the motion or motions shall be disposed of before the question is put on the vote before the Chair and that any resolutions be reported when the Chairman makes his report to the President at the conclusion of the proceedings in the Committee of the Whole. [More…]
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With respect to the conference vote to which Senator Douglas McClelland has referred, an officer of the Foreign Affairs Department is recorded as saying: [More…]
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In summary, that Bill provides, firstly, that the Council of the University shall not authorise a students representative council to expend moneys raised by the University for the provision of amenities or services unless the governing body of that Council is elected by students in an election at which not less than one quarter of the students entitled to vote have voted; secondly, that the Council of the University is to have a duty to ensure that any moneys it makes available to a student organisation for the provision of amenities and services are applied bona fide to the provision of amenities and services of direct benefit to the University; thirdly, that the Council is to have published and freely available to students at least twice a year an audited statement as to the amount of fees paid by students for amenities or services that are not of an academic nature, the organisations to which any part of these moneys have been paid and the purposes for which they have been expended; and fourthly, a provision that no person shall be required to be a member of any body or organisation in order to entitle him to be admitted as a student or to graduate. [More…]
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And I will vote for- - [More…]
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Before putting these estimates to the vote, I wish to respond to those honourable senators who have raised matters. [More…]
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The first matter I wish to raise comes under the vote of the Commonwealth Scientific and Research Organisation. [More…]
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I submit that the proper course in this instance is for the Committee of the Whole to request that the item be deleted; that if it is to be proceeded with, that should be done only after Parliament has considered the Bill to vote lump sum payments to judges for long service- judges who, to the day of their retirement, get an assured, sufficient salary and, the day after their retirement, go on a guaranteed lifelong pension of 60 per cent of that salary. [More…]
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I will not be a member of Parliament when the Bill comes forward, but if I were I would vote radically against it. [More…]
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Depending on whether there is any other interest in the matter, if I am the only one to protest against the item of expenditure I ask that my vote against that item of appropriation for the payment of costs of the defendants in the case of Sankey v. Whitlam and Others be recorded. [More…]
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They are exploiting the discretions- against my vote in 1964- just as the members of this Parliament, as I pointed out last week, are seeking to exploit lump sum payments to evade income tax. [More…]
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As a consequence Ministers were beaten on the vote. [More…]
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It just shows that this Government has no intention of doing anything for Aborigines except in that area in which it is forced to do something because it has its back to the wall as it fears a vote might go over its head. [More…]
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With very great respect, I suggest that this final vote and the third reading stage should be postponed until tomorrow to give the Minister time to find out what the Bill is all about. [More…]
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The final votes ought to be postponed until tomorrow. [More…]
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If the Minister comes back tomorrow after Question Time and gives an explanation, at least the vote in this chamber will be on a more informed basis because the Minister will have been briefed by the Minister in another place- provided he has returned from Samoa- who knows what the real story is. [More…]
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When the vote is taken on these amendments we will be able to look around and see the rebels in the Liberal Party who, in effect, really support the silvertail section- the wealthy section- of the community. [More…]
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I do not accept that, and that is the reason why I shall vote against Senator Rae’s amendment and for the Bill. [More…]
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I shall vote for the Bill, agreeing reluctantly to the insertion of the date 17 August. [More…]
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I thought that there would be relatively few speakers and that a vote would be taken on amendments fairly quickly. [More…]
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But if we examine the situation we find that the Country-Liberal Party gained 4 1 per cent of first preference votes. [More…]
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Obviously many more than 50 per cent of the people of the Northern Territory do not want statehood, because they did not give their first preference vote to the Country-Liberal Party. [More…]
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It is clear that a referendum on the issue, being counted on the number of single votes would have failed. [More…]
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It is all very well for Senator Kilgariff to get up in this chamber today and to express the opinion that he and his Party are concerned that the people who live in the Northern Territory should have a say in the running of the Northern Territory and in the government of Australia, but it is on record everywhere one likes to look that the members of the Country Party except Mr Calder who was practically led by the nose in the division at the Joint Sitting to cross the floor and vote against his Party, did not vote with the government of the day to give the people in the Northern Territory and the Australian Capital Territory representation in this chamber. [More…]
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The reason is that they can split the vote, in particular the vote of Aborigines. [More…]
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Within a couple of months of being elected to office we set things in train to give to the people of the Northern Territory the right to vote. [More…]
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I am afraid the Government also believes that, if a referendum is held in the Northern Territory and the people told what they would be committed for under selfgovernment, the result would be a large no vote. [More…]
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Whitlam Government- a rate of vote-getting which showed the complete disenchantment of that community with the Whitlam Government. [More…]
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Thereby, all persons who are entitled to vote in Federal elections are assured of the right to vote for the Legislative Assembly- a useful safeguard, I would have thought, in this fledgling State. [More…]
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If the Government does not accept the amendment I think we must call for a vote to ascertain which people support the principle which I am propounding and which people are posturing in this situation, because it seems to me quite clearly that it is a situation of a principle versus a posturing. [More…]
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I do not have to canvass here the point of view put forward by the Australian Labor Party, that we believe in one vote one value. [More…]
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The situation now is that the honourable senator referred one manone vote. [More…]
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If we were to adopt the one man- one vote approach and then wanted to have no more than a 10 per cent variation, what will happen in the Northern Territorythat is all we are talking about at the moment- is that we will have even more electorates than we have now. [More…]
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As every income earner in the Territory will be called upon to contribute on or as near as possible a fair share basis why should they not be entitled to enjoy a vote along the same lines? [More…]
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The Government does not believe that this is a case of one vote one value which, of course, is an old catchcry that nobody really believes and nobody knows what it means. [More…]
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When certain requests were made by the majority leader of the Federal Government to the previous Administrator of the Commonwealth, the former Governor-General, he did not accede to them, not even after a vote of confidence in the then Government was taken in the Parliament. [More…]
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They consistently return a Liberal State member of Parliament and they consistently vote for Liberal senators and for a Liberal member of the House of Representatives. [More…]
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Disregarding that little weakness in Senator Young’s proposition, if he really believes what he has said, then he ought to vote for the amendment which I am about to move. [More…]
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I fully recall that, when I had been a member of this chamber for about a week, he put forward a brilliant argument about why I should vote against the Government at the time, and he and I were the only two voting on that side, much to the wrath of Shane Paltridge, who took me into his office and dressed me down. [More…]
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I can only say that the Electoral Act provides that if the name of a person has been wrongly omitted from the roll that person may be permitted to vote. [More…]
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Ballot papers will be distributed to honourable senators, who are requested to write upon the paper the name of the candidate for whom they desire to vote. [More…]
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Ballot papers will be distributed to honourable senators who are requested to write upon the papers the name of the candidate for whom they desire to vote. [More…]
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I feel confident that if debate were to encompass the new members of the Senate from the Australian Democrats and if in fact Senator Harradine were enjoined to vote on such an issue we could count upon an overwhelming viewpoint from this national Parliament. [More…]
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-The vote for the Labor Party in Queensland was reduced to 30 per cent; that is the only opposition the Premier has. [More…]
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That is why the Australian Democrats have taken a vote on this question. [More…]
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We realise that debates on Standing Orders in this place are normally free ranging and that everyone can make his own contribution and normally vote as he wishes. [More…]
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Again I say to new senators that the sort of debate in which we are participating tonight, there being a free vote, is one of the rare debates which one can enter and vote on at will. [More…]
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A senator, though not a member of a standing committee, may participate in its public sessions and question witnesses, unless the committee orders otherwise, but shall not vote. [More…]
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I feel also that members of parliament perhaps should have some rights of participation in the joint committees, without having the right to vote. [More…]
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Standing Order 36aa provides: a Senator, though not a member of a Standing Committee, may participate in its public sessions and question witnesses, unless the Committee orders otherwise, but shall not vote. [More…]
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We know that he cannot vote but I hope that he could at least make suggestions for what ought to be involved in the report. [More…]
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I emphasise the following words- in its public sessions and question witnesses, unless the Committee orders otherwise, but shall not vote. [More…]
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A Senator, though not a member of a Committee, may attend and participate in its deliberations, and question witnesses unless the Committee orders otherwise, but shall not vote. [More…]
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A Senator, though not a member of a Standing Committee, may participate in its public sessions and question witnesses, unless the Committee orders otherwise, but shall not vote. [More…]
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A senator, though not a member of a committee, may attend and participate in its deliberations, and question witnesses, unless the Committee orders otherwise, but shall not vote. [More…]
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There is no special appropriation of funds in the Defence vote for commercial air charter. [More…]
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Does the Minister interpret this as a massive vote of confidence by the Australian community in the Budget and in the Budget strategies? [More…]
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Senators on this side are free to vote on this motion according to their personal views, and I hope that the same attitude will be adopted by the Opposition. [More…]
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In matters of procedure the Chairman or Deputy Chairman when acting as Chairman have a deliberative vote and, in the event of an equality of voting, have a casting vote, and, in other matters, the Chairman or Deputy Chairman have a deliberative vote only. [More…]
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For that reason alone, I believe that the Senate should vote against it. [More…]
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They feel very frustrated at the fact that they are unable, because’ of the limitations imposed by the vote for any given project, to have a look at what is happening. [More…]
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It is possible that people could take two weeks to vote. [More…]
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He could cast his vote in a referendum at that time. [More…]
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I have put to many such people the idea that they have a responsibility to be on the rolls and to vote but 1 have been laughed at for my pains. [More…]
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The Department of Employment and Industrial Relations agreed that there was a shortage of motor mechanics in selected areas but the vote in the Department cut out in early June. [More…]
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We will vote against that amendment. [More…]
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I intend to vote in this chamber in accordance with the tenets of the just war which permit armed collective resistance to unjust aggression- the so-called just defensive war. [More…]
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The development-vs.-preservation issue has turned into a hotly lobbied fight over what one environmentalist calls ‘the conservation vote of the century.’ [More…]
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I know that Mrs Kroll-Simmu was elated in the belief that Senator Wriedt did vote for the motion. [More…]
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No doubt the Tasmanian and South Australian Liberal senators, despite the fact that there is no indication that this is where the money will go, will vote for this measure. [More…]
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What action has the Department of Administrative Services, or the Government as a whole, taken to: (a) ensure that Australian Aboriginals are made aware of their rights and obligation to vote at elections; and (b) to encourage Aboriginals to register as voters. [More…]
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How many Aboriginals and Torres Strait Islanders currently resident in Australia, are eligible to vote, but have not registered to do so. [More…]
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special instructions were issued to Presiding Officers to ensure that assistance to non-literate voters was properly given. [More…]
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These instructions covered the marking of ballot papers, the use of How-to- Vote cards and the secrecy of the vote in respect of non-literate voters; [More…]
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posters aimed at assisting those Aboriginal voters having some degree of literacy to fill in their ballot papers were printed in Aboriginal languages for display at polling places at which Aboriginal electors were expected to vote and copies were distributed to Aboriginal communities. [More…]
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I will not vote against the Budget because the majority of provisions in it are excellent, but I certainly express the hope that this will be only a temporary change. [More…]
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The seat of Kalgoorlie is now within 5 per cent or 6 per cent of quota, a matter which I would have thought would have gladdened the hearts of those who favour one vote one value. [More…]
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Despite the overwhelming vote in the 1967 referendum for us to improve the conditions of Aboriginals, neither Labor nor Liberal Federal governments since have done anything for Aboriginals that could not have been done before the referendum. [More…]
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If they do not want their money spent on these types of organisations, they know what to do about it; they can vote the Government out at that next election. [More…]
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Both honourable senators said that they were opposed to a reduction of the bounty but, because it is a Budget measure, they could not bring themselves to vote for the amendment which had been foreshadowed by Senator Walsh. [More…]
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I think that when the vote on this amendment is put to the test we will see, in fact, who is hypocriticalpeople who stand up in this chamber and criticise a measure but then vote for it. [More…]
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I will leave it at that, because when we have the vote on Senator Walsh’s amendment we will see the final result. [More…]
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The fact is that Senator McLaren would vote for black being white if that was the decision of Caucus. [More…]
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If they vote for the measure, as I expect they will, that will be perfectly consistent with the remarks that they made in this chamber. [More…]
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What concerns me is that in regard to legislation such as this members of the Government, the Liberal Party-National Country Party coalition, go out to the electorate and say that they have the freedom to vote as they see fit on matters of interest and of vital importance, to primary producers particularly, and come in here and mouth the very same words, yet when the vote is taken they vote, irrespective of what their thoughts are, in support of the Government en masse. [More…]
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One notices that though he repeatedly expressed his opposition in the Press before the legislation hit the House of Representatives, he did not vote against it when it was before the House of Representatives. [More…]
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I think she rather unfairly asked them: ‘Why haven’t you got the guts to come over here and vote with us?’ [More…]
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How a Liberal can vote for this proposal is beyond my comprehension because it is totally opposed to Liberal Party policy. [More…]
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I recall that Labor decided that anybody who produced 1,400 kilograms of wool should have a vote in the referendum. [More…]
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So whilst this matter was of no particular relevance to our main income we had a vote, as did a producer devoted to merino wool production. [More…]
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Senator Wriedt said that about 80,000-odd wool growers would be entitled to vote in the referendum. [More…]
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The second question asked the 46,000 voters who said that there should be some restriction whether they thought that there should be some partial lifting of the ban. [More…]
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Of that number, 13,000 voters said that there should be a partial lifting. [More…]
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If one adds those 13,000 voters to the 9,000 voters who said that there should be free export one finds that in excess of 40 per cent of those who voted said that there should be a partial lifting of the ban. [More…]
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That is a significant percentage and ought to be taken note of, particularly in view of the fact that those who did not have control of the production- people involved in producing oil seeds, dairying and so on- were entitled to a vote on this matter if they produced 1,400 kilograms of wool. [More…]
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There is little doubt that neither the Minister for Primary Industry nor the stud sheep breeders wants the matter to go to a referendum because they fear that once again the wool growers will vote against their organisations and in particular against the Australian Wool Industry Conference. [More…]
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A referendum was held in November 1973 to determine the attitude of woolgrowers to the export of merino rams and about 123,000 woolgrowers were eligible to vote. [More…]
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If we add the ‘Yes’ votes to the two questions we get 22,493 which is still 10, 1 47 less than the ‘ No ‘ vote on the second question. [More…]
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The housing vote in this year’s Budget is down by $143m on last year. [More…]
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Despite what might be my lamentable idealism, I look forward to the days when we have public funding of political parties, disclosure of donations, some register of pecuniary interests, fair redistributions, one vote one value, a revised Federal Constitution and real popular participation in government. [More…]
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Liberalism, but also of one man one vote . [More…]
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The vote is not important; the vote is a mockery. [More…]
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Every honourable senator on the Government side will walk into the chamber when the division bells ring and mechanically vote that the Budget be passed- not that they have been allowed to discuss it. [More…]
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I do not have the slightest doubt that if this chamber could take a free vote and a secret vote on the Budget- God forbid that we ever accept the strong lobbying at present that parliamentarians ought to take a secret vote on issues- and if the vote were not along party lines these Budget Papers would not be passed in their present form. [More…]
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Let us see what happens when the legislation is introduced and the Government has to take a vote on this change in policy which proposes that the income that a child may earn without affecting the family allowance is to be increased from $6 to $20 a week. [More…]
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Not only did the Australian Labor Party support the Whyalla shipyards being kept in business but also an important joint committee of this parliament, the Joint Foreign Affairs and Defence Committee, decided by unanimous vote to recommend that Newcastle and Whyalla because of their defence complement should be kept going. [More…]
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We brought the matter back into the Senate, but what happened when a vote was taken? [More…]
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They voted against the very case that they had put up, with such great publicity, about the Whyalla shipyards. [More…]
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We were most struck by the fact that although there were questions on uranium and several other quite controversial questions, the highest response for a Yes vote was to the question whether it was thought that political parties should disclose all sources of their funding. [More…]
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When they vote they will know something about what is going on. [More…]
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They could consider those policies and vote accordingly. [More…]
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John Kerin, one of our esteemed colleagues, polled 72.26 per cent of the primary vote. [More…]
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He polled 24.28 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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So the Labor Party gained an increase of 1 1.6 per cent on its vote in Werriwa over that of the last election. [More…]
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What is more important, the figures for that area of Werriwa which is more closely associated with what might be called the primary producer area or the blue ribbon Liberal area show that John Kerin polled 54.92 per cent of the vote whilst his opposition polled 39.43 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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He would know what happened in Kimberley when the Liberal Party tried to destroy the credibility of a Labor candidate by using solicitors who were members of the Liberal Party to tell untruths and to stand over people to make sure that they did not vote for a Labor candidate. [More…]
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The votes polled at the various ballot boxes in the Werriwa by-election showed definitely that the biggest swing to Labor occurred in those districts which normally vote Liberal and in the middle class districts. [More…]
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Labor received its smallest increase in the proportion of votes in the working class districts. [More…]
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Perhaps we could not have polled more votes in those districts. [More…]
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Only one ballot box recorded a win for the Liberal Party candidate, and that was the ballot box which in the 1977 election recorded a four to one vote in favour of the Liberals. [More…]
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Those honourable senators who I applaud for taking the steps to change their Government’s policies can at least pay some tribute to the very major grouping in this place that would have brought about the essential changes in a vote on the floor of the Senate. [More…]
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We were told at the time that the Industrial Relations Bureau legislation would be part of this and that if the Government got a big vote in the 1977 election it would be proved to be right. [More…]
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I might say that that is a decision motivated by our public pledge before the 1977 election that we would never vote against a Supply Bill brought forward by a government elected by a majority of Australians regardless of the political complexion of that government. [More…]
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They were not game to vote on the Budget. [More…]
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We found out that the Liberal vote in some boxes crashed dramatically. [More…]
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We know that great publicity was given in the newspapers to Mr Giles from the other place who said that he was going to cross the floor and vote against the brandy excise. [More…]
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He voted against the suspension of Standing Orders. [More…]
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When the wine excise was in vogue I got the blood pressure of some people up to a very high level when I said in this Parliament that they say one thing when they are talking to their electors but vote the other way when they come in here and the chips are down. [More…]
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The education vote has not been cut down. [More…]
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Let those who said the same thing about the Macquarie by-election after Mr Chifley died and the total vote that accrued for Labor remember that for 20 years afterwards there was a Liberal government in Australia. [More…]
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Perhaps that is part of the reason that there was a vote in excess of 67 per cent in favour of the Labor Party candidate in the Werriwa by-election last weekend. [More…]
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It is no good the Government now saying that it is normal for the electorate to vote against the government in a by-election. [More…]
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All decisions are made by the Tribunal and in the event of the views being equally divided, the Chairman is empowered to exercise a casting vote. [More…]
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Your petitioners submit that all or any of the foregoing proposed legislation of the Lower House, if implemented, will greatly disadvantage many thousands of citizens as either against their expressed will or not submitted to universal vote as the democratic right of the Australian people, therefore, Your petitioners call on the Senate as the House of Review to take appropriate action to release these persons from burdens unfairly placed in order to finance a deficit not of their making. [More…]
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Your petitioners submit that all or any of the foregoing proposed legislation of the Lower House, if implemented, will greatly disadvantage many thousands of citizens as either against their expressed will or not submitted to universal vote as the democratic right of the Australian people, therefore, [More…]
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It is to be hoped that at the next general election the Australian people will remember the full page advertisements of the previous general election and will realise that the bunch of notes which were shown in that advertisement as being the great inducement to vote for Mr Fraser was nothing more than a mirage. [More…]
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I urge them to summon up such reserves of honour, integrity and consistency as they can and indeed vote against their Government on this proposal. [More…]
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It is all very well for the Liberals to say that they are not happy with what is embodied in the Bills, but they are going to vote for them. [More…]
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This Government no doubt convinced many young people to vote for it because it was going to give this concession. [More…]
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We will see how honest they are when they vote on these measures. [More…]
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They cannot get up and say that they are not happy with what the Government has done and then vote for this legislation. [More…]
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Your petitioners submit that all or any of the foregoing proposed legislation of the Lower House, if implemented, will greatly disadvantage many thousands of citizens as either against their expressed will or not submitted to universal vote as the democratic right of the Australian people. [More…]
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Your petitioners submit that all or any of the foregoing proposed legislation of the Lower House, if implemented, will greatly disadvantage many thousands of citizens as either against their expressed will or not submitted to universal vote as the democratic right of the Australian people. [More…]
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They asked, I think pertinently: How can money that is voted for research be used to pay taxation to the Treasury? [More…]
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If money is voted for research purposes that is the purpose to which it should be applied. [More…]
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In future when we vote a sum of money for research and that money is paid in the form of post graduate fellowships we must recognise that in effect the amount that is applied to research is a much smaller amount than we voted for that purpose. [More…]
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It can be that it is appropriate in exceptional cases but if we were to vote against everything which we did not like in particular proposals we would probably find an extraordinary situation. [More…]
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I do not propose to vote in support of Senator Townley’s amendment. [More…]
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However, honourable senators then say that they will vote for it. [More…]
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He expressed great sympathy for the people who will be caught by this legislation, but he will not vote for the amendment. [More…]
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He will criticise the Government but he will not vote against legislation. [More…]
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When the division was called Senator Martin voted for the Bills as a whole. [More…]
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If Senator Martin were sincere in her remarks last night I think we can take it that she will cross the floor and vote for the amendment put up by her Party colleague Senator Townley. [More…]
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Perhaps Senator Jessop, having heard what I have had to say, might even now change his mind at this late stage, be consistent and put his vote where his mouth is. [More…]
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I would not like it to remain on the record unchallenged that Senator McLaren has been able to assert that I stated I was against something but that I would not vote against it. [More…]
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I was not persuaded to vote against it on the ground that it was a retrospective tax. [More…]
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Of course, it ill behoves Senator McLaren or any honourable senator on the other side of the chamber- as honourable senators opposite did last night persistently during my speech- to say that not to vote against the matter was going against what I had said. [More…]
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I would not vote against such a proposal. [More…]
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I am not going to vote against Budget Bills and Budget proposals. [More…]
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-I voted, but I will never vote down such Bills. [More…]
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I did not vote against the second reading of these Bills. [More…]
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He ought to be talking about what he did not have the courage to do and that was let the Budget, 1975, go to a vote so that his colleagues could show their independence. [More…]
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The same applies to the 1976 figures which were a result of the Hayden Budget which was brought into this Parliament and on which the then Opposition refused to vote. [More…]
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Your petitioners therefore humbly pray that Honourable Senators should vote to:- [More…]
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Before we vote, gentlemen, there’s just one thing that Bill said, to carry on from there, about an Aboriginal in that position, I think there was one nomination, wasn’t there? [More…]
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This Government will meet those payments, if those profits are made, by reducing the Aboriginal vote and every Aboriginal in Australia knows that. [More…]
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The Northern Land Council could represent about onequarter of the Northern Territory vote in its area. [More…]
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The Northern Land Council will hold its next meeting on the question of the Ranger Agreement after it has received letters from 30 councillors saying that their communities are ready for a vote. [More…]
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I felt under considerable pressure to vote in favour of the agreement. [More…]
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On the last day of the meeting, Thursday, there were only 23 or 24 people entitled to vote, who were voting, and all of them supported the motion that we sign the agreement, and we did this by raising our hands. [More…]
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I believe this is the reason Mr Joseph Gamaraidj did not go to the voting and that he represented the traditional owners of that area more than most of us, and that he did not vote for the Ranger Agreement. [More…]
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I know that many other delegates were unhappy and felt that they had been pressured to vote for the Agreement and that they had no choice in the matter. [More…]
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As chairman of the Minjilang council on Croker Island, I do not believe that our people have been consulted and have been afforded a fair opportunity to express their views to the Land Council, and I have not had a chance to receive a vote from my members which I should act on. [More…]
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Several of the proxy delegates who were not entitled to vote were also very unhappy with the proposal and in particular Mr Wesley Lanuphuy and John Mulawa and Ian Wulrruwal. [More…]
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-While I was allowed to speak and ask questions, I was not allowed to cast a vote and, according to the Deputy Chairman, anything that I said was not to be recorded. [More…]
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But we were told quite categorically that we were observers, that we could speak only when we were invited to do so and that we could not vote. [More…]
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Your petitioners therefore humbly pray that Honourable Senators should vote to:- [More…]
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Your petitioners submit that all or any of the foregoing proposed legislation of the Lower House, if implemented, will greatly disadvantage many thousands of citizens as either against their expressed will or not submitted to universal vote as the democratic right of the Australian people, therefore, [More…]
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Your petitioners submit that all or any of the foregoing proposed legislation of the Lower House, if implemented, will greatly disadvantage many thousands of citizens as either against their expressed will or not submitted to universal vote as the democratic right of the Australian people, therefore, [More…]
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Your petitioners submit that all or any of the foregoing proposed legislation of the Lower House, if implemented, will greatly disadvantage many thousands of citizens as either against their expressed will or not submitted to universal vote as the democratic right of the Australian people, therefore, [More…]
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Your petitioners submit that all or any of the foregoing proposed legislation of the Lower House, if implemented, will greatly disadvantage many thousands of citizens as either against their expressed will or not submitted to universal vote as the democratic right of the Australian people, therefore, [More…]
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Your petitioners submit that all or any of the foregoing proposed legislation of the Lower House, if implemented, will greatly disadvantage many thousands of citizens as either against their expressed will or not submitted to universal vote as the democratic right of the Australian people, therefore, [More…]
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Your petitioners submit that all or any of the foregoing proposed legislation of the Lower House, if implemented, will greatly disadvantage many thousands of citizens as either against their expressed will or not submitted to universal vote as the democratic right of the Australian people, therefore, [More…]
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This is one of the occasions when I deplore our Standing Orders because they prevent us from coming to a vote on these matters. [More…]
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We really should be coming to a vote on this very important issue. [More…]
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I trust that sufficient honourable senators opposite will have a spark of compassion which will compel them to vote against this legislation. [More…]
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When the time comes to vote on this Bill I certainly hope and pray that it will be defeated. [More…]
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Unfortunately, there are not very many members of the Government who are prepared to admit that the pre-election promises were just a ruse to get the pensioners and the thinking people in Australia to vote for this Government- vote it back into office to retain the Treasury benches. [More…]
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They are concerned enough to stand up in the Senate and in the other House and say that they will not vote for this Bill because they do not see that justice is being done for the people who are least able to alford these sacrifices. [More…]
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I am paid a very high salary to make decisions and to vote according to those decisions. [More…]
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I suppose that it is some small credit to Senator Townley that he is going to cross the floor and vote with the Opposition on this occasion. [More…]
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Senator Townley said that if that affects his vote he will walk out of this place, but we all know that when he came into this place he came in as an Independent and then, like ex-Senator Hall, he quickly came back under the umbrella of the Liberal Party. [More…]
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I want to make a few comments about Senator Townley ‘s colleagues in the other place who did not have the intestinal fortitude to vote against legislation to which they claimed they were opposed. [More…]
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They stayed out of the House when the vote was being counted and did not deem to be counted. [More…]
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They made no difference to the vote in doing this. [More…]
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How would they vote then? [More…]
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Of course they would vote with the Government. [More…]
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They took certain action on minor matters but never did they vote against the Liberal Party if the term of office of the Liberal Party was going to be in jeopardy. [More…]
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I compared the number of pensioners in Pinnaroo with the number of people who voted for the Labor Party at the last election. [More…]
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I am also informed that 1 14 people vote Labor in that town. [More…]
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I can say to the Minister now that the figure will be very greatly increased the next time these people get an opportunity to vote because I know that a great number of the 1 14 people who voted for Labor at the last election are not pensioners. [More…]
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I find that the same situation applies in many other country towns in South Australia; that is, more people receive pensions in many country towns in South Australia than vote for the Australian Labor Party, which when it was in government gave them justice. [More…]
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Honourable senators opposite continually stand up in this chamber and say that they have freedom to vote according to their conscience. [More…]
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It really is idiotic to attack an honourable senator on the Government side of the chamber straight after he has announced to the Senate his intention to vote with the Opposition. [More…]
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I feel that we could perhaps proceed to the Committee stage following the vote on the motion for the second reading. [More…]
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Much as we have sympathy with the Opposition’s point of view that this is another one in a long series of broken promises of the 1977 general election campaign, we believe that logically that is no reason to vote against this clause. [More…]
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If the matter comes to a vote I will certainly not support the Government and I will show my disapproval by abstaining from voting. [More…]
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If this place is supposed to be an independent House then today is the classic time for members of the chamber to show their independence and to vote according to the known wishes of their constituents, not according to a party direction. [More…]
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It disappoints me when a man of courage like Senator Bonner says: ‘I disagree with this; this is a betrayal of what the Government promised’ but then he does not vote. [More…]
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In fact he denies the people who elected him the opportunity of his voice and his vote in the matter about to be voted on. [More…]
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Every member of the Liberal Party will agree that traditionally the pensioner vote has essentially been for the Labor Party, for reasons that we need not go into today. [More…]
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We won the pensioners ‘ vote for the first time in many years. [More…]
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This chamber is supposed to give a freer vote to members of the Liberal Party and the National Country Party than the lower House. [More…]
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I appeal to those Liberal senators who find a semblance of morality in the argument I have put forward today to vote against this overt breach of an election promise on which many Liberal members won their seats, on which, perchance, some Liberal senators in the third position on the ticket won their seat. [More…]
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I sympathise with those honourable senators, including Senator Bonner, who feel in their consciences or in their deliberations that it is not possible for them to vote against the Government on this measure because they know that there is a tied vote on this side of the chamber. [More…]
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To those Liberal senators who feel that they cannot vote against the Government I say, in the name of morality, that if they cannot support this Bill, they should cross the floor. [More…]
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With our preferential system of electing senators, that result just goes to show how closely knit the Labor Party vote is when it votes for the Australian Labor Party Senate ticket. [More…]
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Of course, we now have Senator Chipp on record as saying that that is exactly what happened; that the Government fooled the pensioners and they voted for it. [More…]
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He is now sounding a warning to the Government that the pensioners will not vote for it at the next election. [More…]
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I say to honourable senators opposite here and now, as Senator Chipp has said, that they will not get the pensioners’ vote at the next election, because of this very measure, this very clause 6 in this Bill. [More…]
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If honourable senators opposite have any intestinal fortitude, as Senator Chipp has said they ought to have, and if they have the freedom which they always claim they have, they will cross the floor and vote with the Labor Party to defeat this clause. [More…]
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When one starts advocating in this chamber that we just cut out what we want to cut out or increase what we want to increase in this way or that, I think that has to be viewed in the context of the responsibility of the elected government- a responsibility which it must carry- to prepare a Budget which can be rejected and on which the people have a chance to vote or which is otherwise relatively unalterable by this chamber, whatever this chamber may think about it. [More…]
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We believe that persons who devote their working lives to this country should not be disadvantaged in this kind of way when they retire. [More…]
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I do not willingly want to add to the long list of people who are taking Senator McLaren to task, but he was perfectly well aware when he made his remarks that Senator Chipp ‘s comments were inspired by a policy which was also voted on by many more people than would ever vote for an Australian Labor Party policy. [More…]
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Government members who do not want to come over to this side to vote have not thought about it either. [More…]
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I was not going to enter this debate but I think that I ought to if only to remind the chamber, Senator McLaren in particular, that this is an important clause and that votes are needed; and when one has a vote one keeps it in the bag and does not blow the bag as he has done. [More…]
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One also does not barrel with a barrage of abuse a senator who has made a difficult decision to vote against his party and his Government. [More…]
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I fully expect that Senator Townley will maintain his position and vote according to what he has said. [More…]
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They seem to have been saying that they are taking politics out of pensions and yet they all are talking about buying the pensioners’ vote. [More…]
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I have listened for the past hour to this debate and believe that pensioners exercise their vote according to a range of responsibilities that they feel. [More…]
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To assert that pensioners exercise their vote in accordance with what has been said this afternoon is insulting to those people who are individual members of the Australian society who have as broad a range of political views as the rest of Australian society. [More…]
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With that assurance I feel that we should move to a vote on this clause. [More…]
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Your petitioners submit that all or any of the foregoing proposed legislation of the Lower House, if implemented, will greatly disadvantage many thousands of citizens as either against their expressed will or not submitted to universal vote as the democratic right of the Australian people, therefore, [More…]
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Will he agree that whatever other measures to solve the legal aid crisis might be in Government contemplation and which may be announced shortly, the immediate backlog problem to which I have adverted can be resolved only by an immediate increase in the legal aid vote by $500,000? [More…]
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Your petitioners therefore humbly pray that Honourable Senators should vote to: [More…]
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Your petitioners therefore humbly pray that Honourable Senators should vote to: [More…]
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Your petitioners therefore humbly pray that Honourable Senators should vote to: [More…]
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Your petitioners therefore humbly pray that Honourable Senators should vote to: [More…]
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Your petitioners therefore humbly pray that Honourable Senators should vote to: [More…]
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Your petitioners therefore humbly pray that Honourable Senators should vote to: [More…]
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Your petitioners therefore humbly pray that Honourable Senators should vote to: [More…]
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Your petitioners therefore humbly pray that Honourable Senators should vote to: [More…]
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Your petitioners therefore humbly pray that Honourable Senators should vote to: [More…]
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Your petitioners therefore humbly pray that Honourable Senators should vote to: [More…]
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It is interesting to note that in making this statement the Minister carefully avoided any commitment in respect of an increase in the Australian Legal Aid Office’s vote. [More…]
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I see that all the legal men on the Government side of the chamber have run out of the chamber during this debate, but knowing their keenness to see justice done and their interest in the operation of our legal system, I doubt whether, if a proper appeal were made to them, any of them, or any of the legal men on this side, would vote in favour of this proposed new section. [More…]
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Surely the Committee should be satisfied with that advice or, if it is not satisfied with that advice, it should take a vote on the issue’. [More…]
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It is very difficult to take a vote on an issue when we believe that we have not received an explanation of this proposed change. [More…]
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After the 1977 federal elections the Divisional Returning Officer for Fisher, in accordance with the Commonwealth Electoral Act and the Electoral and Referendum Regulations, notified Dr W. L. Fowles that he appeared to have failed to vote at the election and asked him to state his reasons why he so failed to vote. [More…]
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The Divisional Returning Officer did not consider that Dr Fowles’ reasons for not voting were valid and sufficient in terms of the legislation and he forwarded a further notice to Dr Fowles advising him of that fact and advising him that he could have the question of his failure to vote determined by the Australian Electoral Officer for Queensland or by a court of summary jurisdiction. [More…]
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The question of instituting legal proceedings against Dr Fowles was referred to the Australian Electoral Officer for Queensland who, having regard to all of the circumstances, has directed the Divisional Returning Officer for Fisher not to institute proceedings against Dr Fowles for his failure to vote. [More…]
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It would receive all the funds currently available to the Aboriginal Land Fund Commission, the Aboriginal Loans Commission and the Enterprise Vote of the Department of Aboriginal Affairs. [More…]
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The political amendments of the last few years, by diverting the benefits of the scheme from those who needed them to those who might vote for them, weakened the scheme considerably. [More…]
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Your petitioners submit that all or any of the foregoing proposed legislation of the Lower House, if implemented, will greatly disadvantage many thousands of citizens as either against their expressed will or not submitted to universal vote as the democratic right of the Australian people, therefore, [More…]
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The Northern Land Council ‘s vote in favour of the resolution to ratify the agreement was 35 with two abstentions. [More…]
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Your petitioners therefore humbly pray that Honourable Senators should vote to:- [More…]
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The will of the people shall be the basis of the authority of government; this will shall be expressed in periodic and genuine elections which shall be by universal and equal suffrage and shall be held by secret vote or equivalent free voting procedures.’ [More…]
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Senators are elected periodically, by secret ballot, with universal franchise, and the quota-preferential method of proportional representation ensures that the vote values within states are equal as nearly as can be. [More…]
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We, the undersigned citizens of Australia, therefore humbly pray that the Senate will fulfil the pledge of a Member State of the United Nations and take steps to remove the compulsion from the Electoral Act in order to allow freedom of expression for everyone who has the right to vote for Senators. [More…]
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Your petitioners therefore humbly pray that Honourable Senators should vote to:- [More…]
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Your petitioners submit that all or any of the foregoing proposed legislation of the Lower House, if implemented, will greatly disadvantage many thousands of citizens as either against their expressed will or not submitted to universal vote as the democratic right of the Australian people, therefore, [More…]
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Your petitioners therefore humbly pray that Honourable Senators should vote to:- [More…]
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The vote for the ABC in Appropriation Bill (No. [More…]
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It is from this vote that payment would have to be made to the commercial networks for the sporting programs I have mentioned. [More…]
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Your petitioners therefore humbly pray that Honourable Senators should vote to:- [More…]
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Your petitioners therefore humbly pray that Honourable Senators should vote to:- [More…]
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Your petitioners therefore humbly pray that Honourable Senators should vote to:- [More…]
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Your petitioners therefore humbly pray that Honourable Senators should vote to: - [More…]
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Your petitioners therefore humbly pray that Honourable Senators should vote to:- [More…]
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Your petitioners therefore humbly pray that Honourable Senators should vote to:- [More…]
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Your petitioners therefore humbly pray that Honourable Senators should vote to:- [More…]
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I refer to the effect of a disallowance if it is accomplished by a vote here today. [More…]
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The second way is that the Government could take action before this matter actually comes to a vote. [More…]
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The third issue- one for Government senators- is the problem of whether they are to vote to overturn a decision made by the Government. [More…]
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I would be prepared to vote for such a motion, which Senator Rae has foreshadowed, provided that the Government made it clear that it would be prepared to bring in a new ordinance covering all the major health conclusions on the abortion issue reached by the Australian Capital Territory Legislative Assembly, or at the very least not effectively prohibiting them. [More…]
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So I shall vote for the disallowance of the Ordinance. [More…]
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I shall also vote for Senator Rae’s foreshadowed motion, which permits the Government promptly to bring in a new ordinance which will give effect to the wishes of the Legislative Assembly, including the banning of private abortion clinics. [More…]
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I cannot support that proposition, and therefore will vote against the disallowance if it comes to a vote. [More…]
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He proposes recision, a procedure, by the way, requiring an absolute majority of 33 votes. [More…]
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My guess would be that the Government is much more likely to allow the political blame for opening up the possibility of private abortion clinics to fall on the Senate or, more accurately, on those honourable senators who vote for the disallowance of the Ordinance. [More…]
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The consequences will fall on us or, more accurately, on those honourable senators who vote for disallowance if there is any suggestion that the clinic is to open. [More…]
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Therefore if this matter proceeds to a vote I will vote against it and I ask other honourable senators also to vote against it. [More…]
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The vote was 98 to 23. [More…]
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The vote was 98 to 23 and it was thrown out resoundingly. [More…]
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If we vote today to set up public abortion clinics in the grounds of Australian Capital Territory hospitals we will be voting for abortion on demand. [More…]
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I support the intention of Senator Ryan and for that reason I will vote for her motion. [More…]
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At the outset I say that my vote will be cast in favour of Senator Evan’s amendment, in favour of Senator Ryan’s motion and in favour of Senator Rae ‘s contingent notice of motion. [More…]
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I am talking about the debate as to whether it is a free vote or a whipped vote, or the sort of pressures one should take notice of when making a decision here. [More…]
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Where are the people who are blackmailing us with regard to our votes while millions of babies starve to death in, say, Africa? [More…]
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Where are the people who write to me and say: We are watching which way you vote and there are six adults in this house who also are watching which way you vote?’ [More…]
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But there is one time, I believe, when men should have a conscience vote; there is one time when men should have a conscience. [More…]
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We are in a situation of having a free conscience vote on an issue that affects self-government in the Capital Territory. [More…]
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It is a conscience vote for members of the National Country Party, but I feel sure that the important issue is selfgovernment in the Australian Capital Territory. [More…]
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Certainly I can assure you, Mr President, that my conscience would not permit me to subscribe to that continuance and hence I must vote against it. [More…]
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I doubt very much that the words which have been expressed in the Senate today will convince any honourable senators to change their minds on how they intend to vote on this subject. [More…]
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Accordingly, I intend to vote against the motion. [More…]
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Let it be these Houses, which under Act of Parliament have been given the job to vote for or against an ordinance. [More…]
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I certainly intend to vote for the disallowance of this Ordinance. [More…]
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So it is clear that a vote to continue this Ordinance forestalls further action, and the Legislative Assembly of the Australian Capital Territory can really expect no further action by the Government. [More…]
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For these reasons and in the compass within which this matter comes, I believe it is my duty to vote for the motion as has been moved and I certainly intend to do so. [More…]
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Those people who are sincere in campaigning against abortion should examine the way in which their time is apportioned and decide whether at least half of their time ought not to be devoted to the fostering of children from Asia- the children who are orphaned and the children whom I described earlier. [More…]
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But we do not live in a perfect society, and that is why I propose to vote for the motion. [More…]
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Senator Harradine ‘s right to speak and to vote on this motion is very clouded. [More…]
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I did not stand up here lightly today to say that I intend to vote in support of Senator Ryan’s motion. [More…]
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We have a role in legislation; but honourable senators who cast a vote on this motion are exercising the only absolute authority that they have in this area, and that is to remove the Ordinance from the statute book. [More…]
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Therefore I believe that, as Senator Tate has said quite correctly, if a vote is exercised in favour of [More…]
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I would simply say to honourable senators opposite that if a majority of senators vote in favour of the motion then who is to predict what power the Government will have in this matter. [More…]
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Traditionally, where personal and moral judgments have been involved, we have had a free vote. [More…]
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In such circumstances, our parties normally have given to all our members a free vote. [More…]
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These are situations which attract free votes. [More…]
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All these issues attracted free votes from honourable senators on this side of the Senate chamber. [More…]
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In May 1973, the Medical Practices Clarification Bill in another place attracted a free vote. [More…]
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The Opposition parties regard this matter as one for a conscience vote. [More…]
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It attracted a free vote. [More…]
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In October 1973 the debate on homosexuality attracted a free vote. [More…]
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I would have hoped that with this kind of proposal the Government would have moved to make an offer to the Parliament of the kind of law that it wanted and to have debate on a free vote basis. [More…]
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Under those circumstances I cannot support the thrust of the Ordinance and I will cast my vote for Senator Ryan’s motion. [More…]
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I have accepted Senator Button’s invitation to speak on this occasion because I believe senators have a right to indicate how they intend to vote on this question. [More…]
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As honourable senators know, there is to be a free vote or a conscience vote on this matter. [More…]
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She said that this was not in accordance with the wishes of the Legislative Assembly and the Regulations and Ordinances Committee withdrew its recommendation before it came to a vote. [More…]
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On one crucial issue the vote was eight votes to seven. [More…]
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The Senate is being asked to give consideration to disallowing an ordinance and to do it on a free vote. [More…]
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In the seven years that I have been here this is the third occasion on which the Senate has exercised a conscience vote on an important issue. [More…]
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I think it is relevant that we should make some reference to the debate on capital punishment having regard to the fact that Senator Harradine tried to draw an analogy between the vote on that matter and the way in which the Senate is exercising its obligations and responsibilities in relation to this ordinance. [More…]
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Whatever the result of the vote tonight there is no doubt that those who have decided to support Senator Ryan have won the debate because they have presented their argument in a coherent, cogent and rational manner. [More…]
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I urge you to vote against Senator Ryan’s motion to disallow the ordinance banning abortion clinics in the Australian Capital Territory. [More…]
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The vote is the concern of all Australians. [More…]
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So I ask you to vote against the motion. [More…]
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I believe that if we are to vote on a confused basis because we are in favour of home rule or against it, in favour of abortion or against it, in favour of free standing private abortion clinics or against them or a combination of any of the other things, without having some clarification of the issues we are voting about, I think this chamber could be validly held up to public ridicule. [More…]
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Whilst I commend Senator Evans for his endeavour to clarify the issue we are discussing, I believe that an amendment which I have foreshadowed would better clarify and identify the issue on which honourable senators will vote. [More…]
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If Senator Evans’s amendment is defeated I propose to move that amendment so that we can vote and identify some of the things that seem to be at issue. [More…]
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I believe that a vote on my amendment would help to clarify the matter and help this chamber appear to be a little less confused than it was at the end of the one hour tirade from Senator Harradine, which did not advance the proposition one iota. [More…]
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I do not wish at this stage to do more than comment in relation to Senator Evan’s amendment and to say that I do not believe that it clarifies the matter in a way that would enable a majority of honourable senators to vote. [More…]
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However, we are discussing a very serious matter on which all honourable senators have a conscience vote. [More…]
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I do not want to speak at any length because I want to indicate to the chamber the way in which I am going to vote, but allow me to address myself to the question before us. [More…]
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As an Australian Democrat member of the Australian Capital Territory Legislative Assembly, I urge you to vote against Senator Ryan’s disallowance motion against the Termination of Pregnancy Ordinance 1978. [More…]
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But the Labor Party itself then agreed to a conscience vote. [More…]
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Surely it does not have a conscience vote on self-government. [More…]
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That is why a conscience vote has been provided for by both sides. [More…]
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I have taken the point that a number of honourable senators have made that in such a debate in which there is a free vote, which I welcome, if we have the opportunity it is right to indicate how we will vote and why. [More…]
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As senators in this House I believe that we are all competent to speak directly about this matter and to make our own conscientious decisions without any criticism that because we do not live in the Territory or because we do not vote for the members of the Legislative Assembly we do not have the right to pass judgment. [More…]
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I believe that these amendments would take away the substance of any decision that may be made as a result of this single vote by a majority of senators. [More…]
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Members of this Senate have before them a motion on which they are to vote yes or no. [More…]
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I believe that those who are opposed to an extension of the practice of abortion in the Australian Capital Territory should vote against the motion for disallowance. [More…]
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I join in this debate only because, like some of my colleagues on this side of the House, I feel that I have to vote against the motion that has been moved by my colleague Senator Ryan. [More…]
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If the Senate carried Senator Evans’s amendment, the Senate would be merely expressing an opinion, as it were; the vote would not be something that was binding on the Government. [More…]
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Senator GEORGES (Queensland) < 1 1 .7) - I have been given the right to vote on conscience, a right which I did not desire. [More…]
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If it is a matter of conscience for members of this place to vote upon such an issue, which clearly is a moral issue in spite of the fact that it commenced as a debate on technicalities, then surely it is a conscience vote for the whole of the community. [More…]
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If it is a conscience vote for the whole of the community, surely we can take it further and say that it is a conscience vote of the person most concerned, the individual woman, and that is where it rests. [More…]
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I enter the debate to state my own position and to make it clear why I will vote the way I shall. [More…]
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I entered the debate with an open mind and was prepared to listen to the arguments carefully to see which way I should vote on the matter. [More…]
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The part that interests me, the part that sways me in deciding the way I will vote this evening, is at page 38, paragraph 84, which points out that 1,106 applications were received by the Terminations Committee to 21 March 1 977. [More…]
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I will have to make a decision when I vote on this issue in this chamber tonight. [More…]
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In some respects I find myself in a very awkward position in having to say that I will vote against the disallowance of this Ordinance. [More…]
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When I moved my motion on 1 1 October it would have been available to the Government to call for a vote on the motion immediately and to dispose of the matter without proper time being allowed for consideration of it. [More…]
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let us not vote with that confusion still with us. [More…]
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We know very well that few voters accept everything in any one policy; they vote for the Party which they feel gives them the most or with whose policy they agree the most. [More…]
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That leave be given to senators to move motions expressing opinions or making recommendations based on the reports of the Estimates Committees; that such motions be moved when the appropriate vote is under consideration; that where more than one motion is proposed in relation to a particular vote the motions may be debated together, but in all cases a motion or motions shall be disposed of before the question is put on the vote before the Chair; and that any resolutions be reported when the Chairman makes his report to the President at the conclusion of proceedings in Committee of the Whole. [More…]
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Not only does the Executive presently determine the aggregate allocation of funds to the legislature, but it also has day-to-day control of much of those funds, as a large proportion of the moneys relating to the functioning of the Parliament is contained in the votes of Executive departments. [More…]
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For example, the vote for expenditure on visits abroad by parliamentary delegations is under Executive Control. [More…]
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I know that the Standing Orders provide that a senator may attend a Senate committee, that he has the power to speak but not vote, but in my case I am physically precluded from doing so because I must fund the cost of my attending. [More…]
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I remember very well the amount of money that was spent in government circles to entice the unsuspecting voter to vote for a particular party. [More…]
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An advertisement, depicting a fistful of notes, in effect stated: ‘This is the amount of money you are going to get if you vote for the Liberal Party’. [More…]
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I think that such an attempt by a government to persuade people to vote for it in this fashion, by using the television media for the first time, depicting a fistful of dollars is reaching rock bottom. [More…]
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Your petitioners therefore humbly pray that Honourable Senators should vote to: [More…]
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The statistics have been compiled by Division and Subdivision and details are given of the percentage vote obtained by candidates, parties and groups. [More…]
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Honourable senators may have seen already the very simple information pamphlet which the Electoral Office has produced and which describes clearly and succinctly the electoral rights and responsibilities of those in the community who are entitled and obliged to enrol and to vote. [More…]
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Special cassettes, films and video tapes were produced both in English and Aboriginal languages in order to explain voting procedures and to assist voters to record a meaningful vote. [More…]
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I believe that the large reduction in the informal vote for the Legislative Assembly elections was in no small way due to the work of the Electoral Office. [More…]
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The significance of that particular issue was that amongst other things it said Good Job Electoral Office’ and then went on to praise the Office for its work in assisting the Aboriginal voter. [More…]
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The Minister for Administrative Services (Senator Chaney) referred to the fact that, over the past three years, the Electoral Office has seen fit to begin a campaign to educate the electorate about the responsibilities of the electorate and about the need for it to vote formally and intelligently in respect of all matters for which the community has some responsibility. [More…]
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One amendment to the voting procedures enabled voters in local government elections, for example, to vote by recording a vote for more than half the number of persons who had nominated for the position. [More…]
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Another amendment enabled voters to vote by recording a vote for one candidate in addition to the number of candidates to be elected. [More…]
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That achieved the objective of reducing the number of informal votes cast and simplified the electoral process without necessarily taking away the right of the electors to record a full formal vote inasmuch as they could extend their preferences if they so desired. [More…]
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I have pointed to the reduction in the number of informal votes in both local government and State elections in New South Wales. [More…]
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He also made the point that the Labor Party Caucus itself did not vote in such a way. [More…]
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In the interests of making every vote an effective vote in a democratic society we should try to reduce the incidence of informal voting. [More…]
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In some areas as many as one in five lose the value of their vote because of inability to understand the process. [More…]
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I am sure that this Government would not want to be associated with the view, fairly widely held, that by denying to voters a means of avoiding informal voting it is negating the principle of effective voting and democratic processes. [More…]
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As I understand the position, one of my colleagues in another place proposes to move, before the Parliament adjourns, that there be a parliamentary examination of the Commonwealth Electoral Act in order that the true will of the people will be expressed properly in every vote recorded, whether for the Senate or the House of Representatives. [More…]
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If it still insists that it will not make it available, the Senate as a whole, if it thinks that it is important enough, can vote and direct the department to make the information available. [More…]
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I want to raise a couple of other points in relation to the vote of $2m for beef classification which came up at the Estimate Committee hearings and which I mentioned to the Minister at the time. [More…]
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I remind the chamber that senators can attend any Estimates committee, ask questions and participate in discussions but cannot vote on the subject of the final report. [More…]
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I could not have voted but I think note should be made of the fact that in this respect that section of the Department of Primary Industry’s estimates are unsatisfactory. [More…]
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When I asked why the Northern Territory was not included I was given the answer that it was either built into the total allocation- that is, the allocation given as a straight vote to the Northern Territory or that the job is still done through Federal departments. [More…]
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Together with his colleague, Senator Jessop, he was very conspicuous by his absence when the vote was taken with respect to the Stuart Highway. [More…]
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Yet when they get the opportunity to vote and to get the weight of the Senate behind them they walk out of the chamber and refuse to vote. [More…]
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In view of the vote that was taken in this chamber some moments ago on the Stuart Highway I predict that all the proposals that are put forward to South Australian Government members from concerned country people fall on deaf ears because they are not concerned. [More…]
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We can make up our minds and we can vote on issues as we see them’. [More…]
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That vote was conclusive proof that Government senators were not game to vote against the proposition put up by their Minister. [More…]
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As I said in my opening remarks, the people in the Northern Territory, particularly in Alice Springs, will have to look somewhere else to find people to put a strong case to the Minister and to back it up with their vote in this chamber if they expect any improvement in the services which are being curtailed by the present Government. [More…]
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It is hard also to understand a statement in Mr Evan’s 1970 report in commenting on Mr Reece ‘s claim that the board, on which he as chairman had no vote, only acted on consensus of opinion, he said that this was in direct conflict with the concept of democratic rule which was rule by majority opinion, and further that this proved (?) [More…]
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I think that the Senator should now proceed to vote on the Bill. [More…]
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Given the ideological and political leadership traditionally given to the Liberal Party by the Victorian Division of that Party, when can we expect last weekend ‘s vote in favour of the restoration of capital punishment by the Victorian State Council of the Liberal Party to be reflected in moves by the Federal Government to reintroduce that barbaric punishment into Federal law? [More…]
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Of course, the electors of the division of Grey and, I hope, the electors in the Northern Territory, will not forget those broken promises the next time they vote in a Federal election, and they will not forget the episode which occurred in this Parliament last week when a motion was moved by Senator Bishop to get the weight of the Senate behind applications and representations that had been made to the Minister for Transport by all South Austraiian senators to have this special fund established and to get on with the work of reconstructing the Stuart Highway. [More…]
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When the vote was taken two of the most vocal members in this Senate- Senator Jessop, who has put out an endless number of Press releases telling the people in the electorate of Grey what he was doing to persuade this Government and the Minister to make funds available, and Senator Kilgariff- walked out of this chamber and refused to vote. [More…]
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He walked out of this chamber and refused to vote. [More…]
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To avoid raising taxes, it will also take a change in priorities in the Budget allocation, some self-denial to enable a transfer of funds to the defence vote. [More…]
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There is no great call from within Rhodesia for one man, one vote, neither is there a call in South Africa for one man, one vote. [More…]
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Of course, the chairman of each committee, being a Government member, has a casting vote. [More…]
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Yet this House, which is supposed to be a House of review is going to be called upon today to debate the motion for the second reading of this Bill, to complete that debate and to vote on the Bill before we rise tonight. [More…]
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We will vote against it on the voices. [More…]
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Before I sit down I would just like to say that I will certainly be distributing the Hansard speeches of this debate in the Riverland of South Australia as quickly as I can to acquaint the people in that area of the fact that Government members say things in the electorate which they cannot back up when it comes to a vote. [More…]
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But we cannot vote against it. [More…]
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I am sure that if the Bill were not so important to the community, the Opposition, along with Senator Walters and Senator Peter Baume, who I see nodded some approval, would vote against it; and because of the concern shown by the President we might get something done. [More…]
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It is one of those Bills which we cannot vote against at the moment but which we may vote against at some time. [More…]
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Mr President, when the vote was taken in the Senate- and I have a copy of the Hansard with me- you were one of the senators who voted for that motion. [More…]
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What circumstances led the Australian Electoral Officer for Queensland to direct the Divisional Returning Officer for Fisher not to institute proceedings against Dr Fowles because of his failure to vote (see answer to Question 894, Senate Hansard, 25 October 1978, page 1639). [More…]
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5 November 1978, that ‘the Government has said no Australian is to vote if he doesn’t want to vote’ and ‘I wish to thank Senator Chaney. [More…]
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As he has condoned my stand he will now have to condone any other Australian who decides not to vote’: if so. [More…]
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Cases of electors failing to vote will continue to be judged on their merits. [More…]
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Your petitioners submit that all or any of the foregoing proposed legislation of the Lower House, if implemented, will greatly disadvantage many thousands of citizens as either against their expressed will or not submitted to universal vote as the democratic right of the Australian people, therefore, [More…]
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On the basis of that promise he wooed hundreds of thousands of people to vote for the Liberal Party and for the National Country Party. [More…]
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There is no question that this matter of indexation of pensions is one of the biggest things weighing in pensioners’ minds, and it is one of the biggest things which influences them on how to vote at election time. [More…]
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I do not care what a majority of the democratically elected representatives of the people say by way of vote. [More…]
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I close by saying merely that to vote for the motion that is before us this afternoon, regardless of all pertinent circumstances, would have to be an irresponsible act. [More…]
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In that year we went to the people seeking their vote on the basis that we would increase pension payments to the figure of 25 per cent of the average weekly earnings. [More…]
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I do not for one moment apologise for what I am saying because he had the opportunity in this Parliament when the legislation went through some time last year to stand up and be counted, as he puts it, and to cross the floor and vote with the Opposition. [More…]
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Honourable senators on the Government side are always claiming that they are free to exercise a vote as they see fit and that they are not bound to vote with the party. [More…]
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So I suggest that we give them the opportunity to exercise that free vote. [More…]
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The Federal Government authorised an allocation of $500,000 from the’ Depanment of Administrative Services’ vote to enable the Silver Jubilee Organisation to undertake its nation-wide activities. [More…]
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It is the function and duty of your parliaments to see that you have that information and, having given it to you fairly and honestly after investigation, that you are allowed to vote in a referendum ‘. [More…]
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The vote was 54 to 30 with the majority component of that vote cutting right across party lines and, indeed, including delegates from all States as well as from the Commonwealth. [More…]
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There is already, as I have indicated, a quite impressive battery of champions in favour of the concept of a unified court system and, as I have also indicated, a surprisingly impressive body of bipartisan political support for the concept from all over Australia, as indicated by the vote of the 1978 Perth convention. [More…]
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Candidates are partially reimbursed for election expenses if they are elected or receive more than 15 per cent of the total votes cast in their electoral district. [More…]
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The extent of reimbursement is decided by ascertaining whichever is the lesser of the two amounts, namely, the amount of the candidate’s expenses as stated on his or her own declaration or an amount which is the aggregate of, firstly, the postage costs of mailing an ounce or less to each elector; secondly, 8c for the first 25,000 names on the preliminary list of electors; and thirdly, 6c for every formal vote cast in excess of 25,000 electors. [More…]
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I therefore commend the motion to the Senate and hope not only for a vote in favour of it but also for a commitment to see through its implementation. [More…]
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In the case of a number of debates here- for instance, when a matter of public importance comes upthere is no vote taken. [More…]
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Why is there no vote taken? [More…]
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I can see no reason why a vote should not be taken on such a matter. [More…]
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Yet no vote is taken on it. [More…]
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Throughout history those people who have been described as those who vote with their feet not only have been the result of international upheavals or wars but also have contributed to the cause of international actions and international wars. [More…]
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We took opinion polls back in 1969 and 1970 and were coming up with a 95 per cent vote against oil drilling being permitted on the Great Barrier Reef. [More…]
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It is a far easier task to suggest that people play safe and vote no than it is to persuade people to agree to change. [More…]
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The campaign was run essentially, and quite cynically, along the lines of hatred against all politicians- ‘Don’t vote yes or you will finish up politicians more of them’. [More…]
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Presumably it will not be his party, and I can assure the Senate that it certainly will not be ours, which will control most of the resources open to persuading the public how to vote on the issues. [More…]
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The Federal Government authorised an allocation of $500,000 from the Department of Administrative Services vote - [More…]
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Those are the only two sums that are mentioned in the report-$500,000 from the vote of the Department of Administrative Services, and a sum in excess of $100,000’ collected from the activities of the Silver Jubilee Organisation. [More…]
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According to other explanatory notes of the Department, $424,645 was involved, and that figure did not include salaries and allowances for staff who were permanent officers of the Public Service, because the salaries and allowances relating to them were charged to another vote. [More…]
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I can find no explanation given to date of the vote from which those funds came. [More…]
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Whether they came from the vote of the Department of Administrative Services or whether they came out of the $500,000 trust fund that was established by the Government, I have not been able to ascertain. [More…]
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From which vote did it come? [More…]
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If he can do that I imagine that our amendment will be defeated because honourable senators on the Government side of the Senate will vote against it. [More…]
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Perhaps members of the other House make decisions at the second reading stage of a debate and decide whether there is a vote in it for them in the electorate. [More…]
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Then they decide how to vote. [More…]
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Is it a fact that the wives of servicemen who accompany their husbands to overseas postings are not permitted to vote in Federal elections whilst their service personnel spouses are so entitled? [More…]
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I understand that the position with respect to wives of servicemen is as indicated by Senator Bonner, namely, that if they are not resident in Australia they are not entitled to be on the electoral roll and hence not able to vote. [More…]
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The position with respect to their husbands is that there is a specific exception with respect to servicemen overseas which enables them to vote. [More…]
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That is a political exercise as far as the Premier is concerned because he cannot find any Aboriginal people, apart from Stewart and a few others, who would vote for his party. [More…]
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Many do not bother to vote at all because they fear that if they put their names on the roll they would be an easier mark for the policeman who has to solve his first case. [More…]
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But when it comes to the crunch the Presiding officer says: No, you have no vote in this matter. [More…]
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The problem, of course, was not helped by the fact that the defence vote was, in money terms, for long periods held static during a time of rapid inflation. [More…]
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The elections were held and I have in my hands information to prove that one-third of the total voting population of that Aboriginal community was denied a vote by the authorities who are in charge and who, to use the kind of words used by Mr Porter, the Queensland Minister for Aboriginal and Island Affairs, are in control of the Aboriginal people of that community. [More…]
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A person who wants to vote in a State election must have his name on the electoral roll at least three months before the election is held. [More…]
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At least one-third of the voting population were not allowed to vote because once again the DAIA stated ‘you are a non-resident’. [More…]
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It was actually the wife and mother of a familywas allowed to vote and the husband was not allowed to vote ( husband, wife and children moved back to Palms . [More…]
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This is one of the candidates who was accepted as such- was not allowed to vote because she was classed as a non-resident’. [More…]
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Olive was allowed to vote but Tom was denied a vote because he did not have resident status. [More…]
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But this group of people must go through all these procedures and, having gone through them, they are denied a vote by the manager of the Island, the manager who represents the Director of the Queensland Department who, in turn, represents the Minister. [More…]
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He has prepared this petition which has been signed by 59 residents of the Island who are fully qualified to vote in the normal sense because they are voting in both State and Federal elections. [More…]
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However, they are not allowed to vote in an election that is very near and dear to them because it involves the running their own little community. [More…]
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They wanted the same situation that we have in the broader electorate in State and Federal elections: A person votes for the party he wants and he votes for the candidate who, he thinks, is going to do the best. [More…]
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But these people have been denied a vote. [More…]
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-I am quite certain that other candidates would have been successful if that one-third of the residents had been allowed to vote. [More…]
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One young man was beaten by four votes. [More…]
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My son was a candidate in the elections and he was beaten by six votes. [More…]
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It prevailed upon the electors to vote No. [More…]
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These were the very people who advocated the No vote. [More…]
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I am quoting the statement that Mr Askin advocated a No vote on price control. [More…]
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Government senators failed to vote with Opposition senators on 31 March 1978, even though they admitted afterwards that perhaps they should have taken cognisance of” what I said on that day and protected the position of the Aboriginal communities of Aurukun and Mornington Island. [More…]
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They merely abstained from voting on an issue in the Parliament; they failed to vote. [More…]
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He was not expelled for merely failing to vote on a motion in which the Victorian Parliament was asked to affirm its confidence in the Victorian Premier and Government. [More…]
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The two members who just failed to vote were expelled for their lack of confidence. [More…]
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For example, if any of us failed to vote on an issue, should we be expelled? [More…]
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Compare that with what happened in 1973, when a select committee to inquire into the civil rights of migrant Australians was established by a combined vote of Liberal Party senators, Country Party senators and Democratic Labor Party senators. [More…]
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South Australia, who was third on the ticket, got a greater proportion of first preference votes than did any other candidate in third position on a ticket until Nancy Buttfield campaigned for the women’s votes. [More…]
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The informal vote, which had been 10 to 12 per cent, in this case went down to 3 per cent. [More…]
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Many people in the electorate who deliberately vote informally would not stand for the injustice that was done on that occasion. [More…]
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Four years previously the Australian Government had voted for such a moratorium. [More…]
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For instance, the quota for North Pacific sperm whales, which had previously been reduced from 7,200 to 763, was then restored to a higher figure of 6,444 by the vote of the Commission when reviewing the quotas. [More…]
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Analyses in the past have contained statistical tables showing the percentage of the vote which would have been won by each political party in each proposed division at the preceding election had it been conducted on the proposed boundaries. [More…]
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He came to the very firm conclusion that that organisation had to have powers adequate for the performance of the duties which would be placed upon it- duties which of course ultimately are placed upon it by the vote of a democratic parliament. [More…]
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I will not canvass the rights and wrongs of the case but I think it is important that we look at the decision of the High Court of Pakistan which, by a four to three vote, rejected the appeal against the death sentence. [More…]
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Senator Puplick and I could be sent as a bipartisan delegation to watch how our delegates vote and how the other delegates vote. [More…]
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I do not think that many of them or many of the members of the Transport Workers Union who are on strike would vote to retain the constitutional government federally. [More…]
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The Senate ought to vote upon it. [More…]
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I do not doubt that if the caucus arrangements of the Government were in some way relaxed we would win the vote on this amendment and that would improve the Bill. [More…]
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The Aboriginal and Islanders Department in Queensland decided who would be on the roll and who would have a vote. [More…]
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If a person did not vote in a certain way he did not vote at all. [More…]
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There was a large turnout of voters, Senator Cavanagh. [More…]
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According to advice reaching the Department of Aboriginal Affairs the percentage of those on the electoral role who voted was over 90. [More…]
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Arrangements were made at Aurukun for residents at the outstations to vote and at least one member of the new Council represents Aboriginals living at outstations. [More…]
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We have to remember that it was a unanimous report from three members of the Labor Party and three members of the Liberal Party, and at no stage did the Chairman of that Committee have to exercise a casting vote. [More…]
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I hope that when and if a vote is taken on this subject, honourable senators responsible for that watered-down amendment will join those on this side of the chamber in supporting the original amendment. [More…]
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In summing up this debate I ask honourable senators to vote for the motion as well as the amendment moved by Senator Puplick. [More…]
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1 ) What expenditures were incurred by the Commonwealth Government in respect of the Silver Jubilee Commemorative Organisation to maintain the organisation or to enable the organisation to function, in addition to the allocation of $500,000 from the Department of Administrative Services’ vote, referred to on page 2 of the Silver Jubilee Commemorative Organisation’s Final Report. [More…]
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Australia will, of course, not vote for any resolutions in international forums that are condemnatory of the new treaty and it will continue to hope that a solution to the Middle East dispute, based on the principles of UN Resolution 242 and the legitimate rights of the Palestinian people, can be achieved. [More…]
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My question, which is directed to the Minister representing the Minister for Foreign Affairs, concerns the recent elections in Rhodesia where a 64 per cent turnout in a free vote gave Bishop Muzorewa a majority in the new multi-racial Parliament. [More…]
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I for one make it quite clear that if any legislation comes into this Parliament which says that commercial FM licences should be granted only to people who are the existing holders of broadcasting licences, I would certainly vote against that piece of legislation. [More…]
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Only in two of the 10 seats created was there any chance for the Australian Labor Party in any normal election to have its candidate elected whatever the vote, unless there were a landslide. [More…]
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It is therefore conceivable that we could have a two-to-one vote or in some instances, if not in all circumstances, a three-to-nil vote. [More…]
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Despite the vote that our Party received in Western Australia, the incredible result was that we were represented subsequently by only one seat. [More…]
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If we are to have confidence in electoral matters and procedures and if we believe that nobody should have a vote which is worth more than that of another person and that the Opposition wants to have confidence and faith in the redistribution which is to take place, we are entitled to say to the Government that the manner in which Mr McLeay has handled these appointments leaves much to be desired. [More…]
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The names of those shires might not mean anything to people from the Eastern States who are not familiar with aerial voting patterns in Western Australia, but the fact is that in those shires the Labor vote in recent elections- going back about 10 years- has run at about 15 per cent. [More…]
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That is just above the vote that the League of Rights and its ilk acquire in those areas. [More…]
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So because of the totally unnecessary addition of those shires to the electorate of Kalgoorlie, the Liberal Party finished up with a net gain of in excess of a thousand votes. [More…]
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There was a certain amount of irony then and there is certainly irony now in the views which were expressed by Senator Walsh because, for the whole of my political life, I have listened to the Australian Labor Party complaining bitterly about a lack of concern about the principle of one vote one value. [More…]
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They show that the Australian Labor Party in Western Australia won 32.79 per cent of the votes. [More…]
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On the other hand, the Liberal Party vote was 46.39 percent. [More…]
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In that blue ribbon Labor seat in Western Australia we find that John Sydney Dawkins picked up the grand total of 45 per cent of the primary votes. [More…]
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After a distribution of preferences, the Labor vote in the seat of Fremantle, where the vast majority of Labor votes were locked away unfairly, totalled 51.82 per cent. [More…]
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If we move through the seats- I will try to be as quick as I can, Mr President- we find that in the seat of Canning the Labor Party actually managed to pick up something under 27 per cent of the vote on the first count and, after the distribution of preferences, 32.3 per cent. [More…]
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Party picked up 24 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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In Forrest it picked up 27.7 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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In Kalgoorlie the Labor Party picked up 37.3 per cent of the vote before preferences were distributed and 37.6 per cent after preferences were distributed. [More…]
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In Moore the Labor Party picked up 23.83 per cent of the primary vote and 29.61 per cent after the distribution of preferences. [More…]
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In Stirling it picked up 32 per cent of the vote. [More…]
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In Swan, the other seat that the Labor Party believes it could or should have won, it picked up 39.5 per cent ofthe primary vote and 49 per cent after the distribution of preferences. [More…]
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In the seat of Tangney the Labor Party won 33 per cent of the vote before the distribution of preferences and 34 per cent after the distribution of preferences. [More…]
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1 per cent of the vote it is possible to win all the seats. [More…]
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In Western Australia those figures demonstrate quite clearly that in no sense have Labor voters been shepherded together and herded in to stop the Labor Party from winning seats. [More…]
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The Labor Party simply got such an abysmally low vote- a vote which in historic terms is quite remarkable- that it could not win seats. [More…]
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He had asked for an assurance that his private member’s Bill would be brought to a vote before the end of the session. [More…]
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I said that at the beginning of that speech I would indicate that I would enter into no debate on pensions, and said that I would withdraw immediately my motion to suspend Standing Orders if the Government could give me an undertaking that a vote on the Bill would be taken before the Senate rose for the winter recess. [More…]
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It is simply this: While on the one hand this Government is making noises, in order to woo the conservation vote, about protecting the Great Barrier Reef and proclaiming the area as a marine park, it is having discussions with its mates in the Queensland Government and in the oil companies to subvert that very process. [More…]
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Amongst other things, the advertisement stated that the Liberals would automatically increase pensions every six months and urged readers to vote Liberal. [More…]
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We have been concerned with the rights of the individual and have been in the forefront of issues concerning the right to vote, freedom of expression and the right of assembly. [More…]
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The Opposition believes that any attempt to reduce the welfare vote, as is advocated by many Government supporters and people in the community, should be resisted strongly. [More…]
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He could not depend on the vote of Senator Marriott and the late Senator Bessell. [More…]
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Vote against the amendment if you are set on this course of obstructing anything which is designed to protect civil liberties. [More…]
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If you are set on that course vote against it, but do not do it on the basis of the specious arguments which have just been put. [More…]
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As I mentioned to my Whip during the week, they expect me to get a vote on it in this chamber. [More…]
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If this vote is taken and no guarantee is given to me by the Government, the Senate will not have the opportunity of debating and voting on my motion of which I have given notice. [More…]
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The Government has not given a guarantee to Senator Chipp, as I am informed, that a vote will be taken on his Bill. [More…]
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I certainly would be happy to see the proposition go to a vote. [More…]
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We are not in a position now suddenly to vote for this amendment or that amendment and to ditch our colleagues after they have given consideration to the legislation. [More…]
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I find grave difficulty- having heard the arguments advanced by Senator Missen in favour of what, in some circumstances, one might justifiably describe as this trendy aberration from the United States- in understanding how he can vote on and oppose a number of Opposition amendments to various clauses of this Bill on the grounds of practicality, and then suggest this provision as one which he would otherwise regard as being practical. [More…]
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I am advised that until the advice to which I have just referred was received by the Australian Electoral Office the postal vote envelopes in question remained unopened. [More…]
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Accordingly, the advice from the Attorney-General ‘s Department was given without knowledge of which candidate would be favoured by admitting or rejecting the postal votes in issue. [More…]
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An advertisement in the 12 November 1949 issue was headed: ‘Ten Sound Reasons why Every Woman should Vote Liberal on December 10’. [More…]
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That is the matter upon which we wish to vote. [More…]
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On the face of it, we again are debating a censure motion directed at Senator Webster, lt is more or less in the same terms as that which was debated and disposed of very convincingly by a vote of this Senate about a fortnight ago. [More…]
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The Opposition will vote against the motion. [More…]
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I am hoping that honourable senators in the chamber and those who are listening to the debate in their offices will have enough sympathy for the sick in our society to vote for the amendment that the debate be made an order of the day for a later hour this day. [More…]
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At page 2 137 of the Senate Hansard for 24 May the names of those honourable senators who voted for the proposition are listed and the names of those honourable senators who voted no are listed also. [More…]
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appears, I presume that Senator Collard did not vote both yes and no and that where the name ‘Collard ‘ appears under the ayes it should read ‘Colston, M. [More…]
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I imagine that in the weekly edition of the Senate Hansard that will be corrected but, because it will be some time before the weekly edition appears, I wish to place this matter on record at this stage so that those people who read Hansard will know that I did vote in favour of the proposition. [More…]
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I would hope that if some Government supporters are true to what they have been saying, they will cross the floor and vote against them. [More…]
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More importantly, I hope that the Federal Government will take up the matter and support the States of South Australia and Victoria in their wish to remove this farcical aspect of requiring unanimity in decisions of the River Murray Commission and substitute instead a majority vote on major policy decisions. [More…]
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At the same time, it should be recognised that equipment acquired by the Defence Force for this purpose, which has no wartime value and operations conducted for this purpose which have no training value, should not be funded from the Defence vote. [More…]
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I said that 12.9 per cent of the defence vote is spent on capital equipment. [More…]
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We must also watch very carefully Defence Force manpower costs to which some 35 per cent of the vote is devoted. [More…]
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But if it is necessary to provide additional relatively simple equipment- ships or aircraft- which would not have a real defence value although they should be operated by the Defence Force, the funds should not come from the Defence vote. [More…]
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We would be deceiving ourselves and the public, if we allowed our Defence vote to be whittled away for non-defence purposes. [More…]
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Our Defence vote is low enough, in all conscience. [More…]
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Under the party system, party members come into this chamber and vote according to what the Prime Minister says. [More…]
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If that is so, we will accept Senator Chipp ‘s vote. [More…]
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Next year he will offer all sorts of handouts in an election Budget and if the electorate is true to form, it will vote through its hip pocket and return him to office. [More…]
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I will quote not only Senator Carrick ‘s words in the debate but words that were put in a substantive motion in this Parliament as an amendment to an Appropriation Bill which was voted upon. [More…]
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I have had a look through the division list on that vote. [More…]
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I find that there are 19 members sitting on the other side of this chamber- including yourself, Mr President- who voted for that motion which used the words ‘deceit, dishonesty and corruption ‘. [More…]
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Therefore, we have 1 9 Government members who were quite prepared to talk about an amendment like that in their party room, bring it in here and vote for it. [More…]
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No Senator shall reflect upon any Vote of the Senate, except Tor the purpose of moving that such Vote be rescinded. [More…]
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The Committee suggests that the Senate give consideration to deferring passage of the Vote of the Department of Employment and Industrial Relations until details of progress on the 1 976-77 report are provided to the Senate. [More…]
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I now say that I will not vote for the passage of the provision of funds for this area of activity unless a little more attention is given to obligations in relation to reporting. [More…]
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Senator Rae has suggested that he will not vote for a particular appropriation until such time as an undertaking is given by the Department concerned to supply honourable senators with prompt reports. [More…]
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I did not interpret what he said to mean that he would vote against this particular appropriation, whether he would delay it, or whether he would– [More…]
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Although he had committed himself to the main principles of the motion, when it came to a vote he decided not to support it. [More…]
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But when the matter was taken to a vote Senator Jessop did not vote for it. [More…]
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I had forgotten that Senator Jessop walked out and did not vote. [More…]
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He was given the opportunity in this Parliament on that very day to vote for a motion put down by Senator Bishop but he walked out of the House along with his colleague Senator Kilgariff. [More…]
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He walked out on the vote. [More…]
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I would have thought that if anyone wanted to support something he would vote for it. [More…]
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If each of the public servants here had a vote in Queensland I do not think that he or she would vote for Bjelke-Petersen. [More…]
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I am genuinely seeking information about why the Government voted in the way it did yesterday on the matter of public importance concerning oil exploration on the Great Barrier Reef. [More…]
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Which of those three components impelled the Government to vote against the motion when it was put? [More…]
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In debating this matter, a debate which took a whole 42 minutes from the beginning to the final vote on the motion that the Bill be read a third timejust 42 minutes- the Opposition was given 14 minutes to speak. [More…]
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In conclusion, I plead with the Government today to allow the second reading debate to proceed immediately, and the Senate to vote on this urgent Bill before it rises this session. [More…]
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When all that was done I was told that if the parents of the children, some of whom were over 1 8 and had voted or were able to vote, agreed that I should visit, I would be allowed to visit. [More…]
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The Legislative Assembly opposed unanimously the ordinance that is before us and called upon all honourable senators to vote for its disallowance. [More…]
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Forty-six per cent of Australian electors would vote for that ALP and 43 per cent for the coalition if a Federal election were held this month, according to the poll. [More…]
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Amid widespread petrol shortages, with new domestic sources of oil at a premium, the vote was expected to be mush closer. [More…]
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As a warning shot, house Democrats on Tuesday voted among themselves by almost two to one to block the president’s plan to begin lifting price controls at the end of this month. [More…]
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The environmental lobby has been losing ground in congress recently, lt came fully prepared for what was called “the environmental vote of the decade”. [More…]
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Many members sided with the president to put at least one solid environmental vote on their record. [More…]
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By a vote of 268 to 157, the House had just approved a proposal that the industry thought it could defeat: legislation that would set aside 126 million acres of Alaska ‘s most spectacular wilderness. [More…]
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Before the vote. [More…]
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The Speaker also realized that the voters were fed up with the oil companies. ‘ [More…]
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Indiana Democrat John Brademas saw another reason for the vote, urged along by persuasive conservationist lobbying: ‘There is a feeling of protecting the great natural legacy of Alaska. [More…]
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The objective of the conspirators is to deprive, by foul means, Aborigines of the right to vote. [More…]
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The Western Australian Liberal Party’s determination to disenfranchise Aborigines has grown out of its conviction that Aborigines vote Labor and will continue to do so. [More…]
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I am assured by competent legal advice that the Commonwealth can pass an Act which would assert, among other things, that no Aborigine shall be deprived of a vote by any procedure for enrolment more difficult than that contained in the Federal Electoral Act. [More…]
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Clause 20 of the Bill requires that this mandatory question be asked of all people presenting themselves to vote: Have you already voted here or elsewhere in this election? [More…]
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The Government plans to insert this mandatory question into the relevant Act: Have you already voted here or elsewhere in this election. [More…]
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Clause 18 (3) (c), which concerns directions by the presiding officer to voters who present themselves to vote, is a provision that the Opposition believes is open to abuse if misinterpreted in the way that provisions of the existing Act were deliberately misinterpreted by the Chief Electoral Officer, on instructions from the Minister of Justice and the Attorney-General, in 1977. [More…]
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The presentation of a list of How to Vote Card by an illiterate elector is a proper direction by such an elector, both as to the marking of his first and subsequent preferences provided that the Presiding Officers takes the direction of reading what is written on the List or Card to the Elector and by that or other means satisfies himself that the card reflects the wishes of the Elector before he marks the Ballot paper. [More…]
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It would have been possible to state explicitly in the Act that the presentation of a how to vote card is, as Mr Justice Smith found, sufficient indication of the elector’s intention to vote. [More…]
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They conceived the strategy to misuse the office of the Chief Electoral Officer, having done that they sent a team of five lawyers to seven polling booths in the Kimberleys with the explicit purpose - as the Smith report confirms- of sabotaging the Aboriginal vote. [More…]
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In letters that Mr Ridge wrote, he made comments regarding his fears not that Aborigines were being manipulated or improperly influenced, but that they were taking advantage of their right to vote. [More…]
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That spells out the purpose of the Western Australian amending Bill, which is to deprive the Aborigines of their right to vote. [More…]
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That is the purpose of this motion: The Opposition is seeking an assurance from this Government that, having been given the power and the obligation to protect the rights of Aborigines, it at least guarantees- if necessary by an Act of the Federal Parliament pre-empting the Western Australian Act, if and when that is passed- the rights of Aborigines to vote at elections in Western Australia. [More…]
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But the Government is absolutely committed to the idea that it is of great importance to Aboriginal people that they should be able to exercise their vote. [More…]
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I emphasise that it is part of the general view of the Government that not only Aboriginals but also other disadvantaged people in the community- disadvantaged in the sense that they are less able than others to take advantage of the electoral laws which exist to safeguard their rights to vote- should be assisted in regard to this matter. [More…]
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I think it would be generally true to say that the disadvantaged voter, that is the person who does have these difficulties, is also disadvantaged in other respects. [More…]
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In other words, the difficulty in exercising the vote is not likely to be the only difficulty that that person faces, whether it is a migrant who is not able to speak or read English, or whether it is an Aboriginal who is not able to speak or perhaps to read or write English. [More…]
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The second thing which I think is important is that if such people are voting, as they should be able to vote, then of course this is a fair guarantee that government will be more sensitive to their needs. [More…]
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If one were to take a strict reading of the motion which was put forward- I do not intend to do that and I have indicated that the Government will support the resolution- it does, subject to the qualifications I am making in this speech, provide that even if we look at Western Australia which has been subjected to so much criticism here today, one will find in fact that there are areas where the Aboriginal voter is advantaged under the State legislation as against the Commonwealth legislation. [More…]
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The particular example to which I draw the Senate’s attention is that the Commonwealth electoral legislation provides that an application for postal vote must be signed by the elector in his own handwriting. [More…]
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There is the starting point for getting an absent vote under our Electoral Act, with which I think, properly, we are pretty satisfied. [More…]
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The Commonwealth Electoral Act does not permit marksmen to sign postal vote applications. [More…]
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So that if an illiterate person or- perhaps to use a less offensive expression- an Aboriginal who cannot read or write English wished to get a postal vote for a Federal election, he would not be able to do so. [More…]
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I think there is some difference in the Northern Territory as to whether one can get a vote for the House of Representatives or the Senate. [More…]
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In other words, a person who cannot sign his name cannot apply for a postal vote. [More…]
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The legislation in Victoria, South Australia, Western Australia and the Northern Territory allows marksmen to apply for postal votes. [More…]
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The Kay report, which has been referred to in this debate, recommended that Western Australia’s legislation be amended to require a marksman’s thumbprint on a postal vote application. [More…]
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In other words, the position remains the same, that one can apply for a postal vote without– [More…]
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I am trying to say to honourable senators that we pick up what we believe to be the spirit of the motion, with the vituperation removed, and say: ‘Yes, we are very anxious to see that Aboriginals who have some disadvantage are able to vote’. [More…]
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Before the elections some people were saying that Aboriginal people wouldn ‘t vote or that they shouldr ‘t vote because they didn’t understand what was going on. [More…]
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I think that means the Electoral Office- helped Aboriginal people by asking the people in charge of the voting places all over the NT to help people who couldn ‘t read or write to make their vote. [More…]
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This meant that Aboriginal people who couldn ‘t read or writeespecially old people- were still able to have their vote. [More…]
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This is the sort of thing which represents, I think, the commitment which we have to the objectives which I believe are shared by both sides of the chamber, namely, that Aboriginal people should exercise properly their right to vote. [More…]
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One finds in that statement, which is recorded in Hansard, that not only are we concerned about and mounting these programs with respect to Aborigines but also that we are mounting quite substantial campaigns to ensure that other groups in the community, in particular ethnic groups, get the necessary information which they require to exercise properly their right to vote. [More…]
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In the case of the Northern Territory Legislative Assembly election the Australian Electoral Office believes that it is significant that there was a reduction in the informal vote from 5.08 percent to the total vote in 1974 to 3.18 per cent of the total vote in 1 977. [More…]
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Under various headings in the report, for example, with respect to the enrolment of voters, Mr Justice Kay made out his case as to why he believed it was necessary for some form of authorised witness to witness an application or a claim for a right to vote. [More…]
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I refer very quickly to page 31 of Mr Justice Kay’s report for his comments on postal votes, which again 1 think are useful in pointing out the differences between the States and the difficulties of ensuring, when a marksman is involved, that one is getting a vote from the person who is claimed to have his name on the electoral roll. [More…]
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However, we should endeavour to strike a balance between the right of the individual to have access to casting a vote and at the same time ensuring that Aboriginals are not being induced to enrol under the Act, that no illiterate person is induced to vote in a particular way and that no postal vote is allowed unless it can be established that the mark on the application and declaration is the mark of the elector. [More…]
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The last point I want to make relates to the very vexed issue of the presentation of the howtovote card. [More…]
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Here again, there is a real dilemma when a person comes in to a polling booth and says that he cannot read or write and then presents a piece of paper which someone else has given to him and says: ‘But that is how I wish to vote’. [More…]
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The vote to scrap the project, taken just after the Three Mile Island accident, was financially painful: the authority had already spent $ 1 47 million on the project. [More…]
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Therefore, they intend to proceed to vote for this legislation. [More…]
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The final vote on the Bill might occur before the Bundestag rises for its summer recess on 29 June. [More…]
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Although at present there is no indication of the likely outcome of that vote, the effect of abolition of the statute would be to make indefinite the period in which accused persons remain liable for prosecution. [More…]
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We can postpone the actual vote on the clause 15 amendments until we get to them, if that course is satisfactory. [More…]
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I want to say this: There will possibly come a time when my vote in this chamber may affect the continued existence of a particular government. [More…]
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For that reason, the Government is unable to accept or agree with either of the amendments and we will vote against both of them. [More…]
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When government supporters had the opportunity to support a motion moved by Senator Bishop proposing that the Government set aside a special fund, Senator Kilgariff and Senator Jessop walked out of the chamber and would not vote. [More…]
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There has been some disquiet about the constitution of Zimbabwe-Rhodesia which entitled electors to vote. [More…]
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Turning to the elections in ZimbabweRhodesia, as honourable senators know there was no register of voters in that country. [More…]
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Other methods were determined to ensure that as many people who were entitled to vote did vote, but double voting was avoided. [More…]
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For example, there was no register of voters in Gabon and no register of voters in Mozambique for their 1978 elections. [More…]
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Further, there was no register of voters in Iran this year for the refer- endum for the establishment of the Islamic Republic. [More…]
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In countries such as Nigeria, Jordan, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia, women do not get a vote at all. [More…]
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Will the Government support a motion to suspend so much of Standing Orders as would prevent a debate and a vote by the Senate on that Bill, which at this stage I intend to move tomorrow? [More…]
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Is it usual to have the costs of a Prime Minister’s use of RAAF aircraft and personnel covered in the Defence vote or is there a separate vote to cover these matters? [More…]
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Earlier this evening in the course of the second reading debate Senator Lewis and others said: Look, we have to understand this amendment before we can vote intelligently on it’. [More…]
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Unlike my colleague Senator Gietzelt, we very strongly support the concept of the Bill and will vote for the second reading. [More…]
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At this stage the Australian Democrats will probably vote against the few other Labor amendments; but let me say, without scoring a point, that we in our party are in a unique position in matters such as this. [More…]
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If I had to vote on the matter tonight, I think that I would still have to vote against decriminalisation but the margin is getting closer; I am 51 per cent against it and 49 per cent in favour of it at the moment. [More…]
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If we could take politics out of the debate I think every honourable senator would feel free to vote according to his or her conscience and what he or she believed to be in the interests - [More…]
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Senator Wriedt is asking us to vote for a Labor Party which wants to abolish State parliaments. [More…]
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After that time we can come to a vote. [More…]
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If he were a councillor in local government he would vote for the second reading, as I will, but also most certainly would vote with the Opposition on several of the excellent amendments that will be proposed. [More…]
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If he were to have a free vote he also would vote for several of the amendments proposed by the Opposition. [More…]
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They will vote with their bums. [More…]
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Is the vote any different? [More…]
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The will of the people shall be the basis of the authority of government; this will shall be expressed in periodic and genuine elections which shall be by universal and equal suffrage and shall be held by secret vote or equivalent free voting procedures. [More…]
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Senators are elected periodically, by secret ballot, with universal franchises, and the quota-preferential method of proportional representation ensures that the vote values within states are equal as nearly as can be. [More…]
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Member State of the United Nations and take steps to remove the compulsion from the Electoral Act in order to allow freedom of expression for everyone who has the right to vote for Senators. [More…]
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I submit, therefore, that the motion is out of order and that it would be pointless for the Senate to vote on it because no such documents lie on the table and there is nothing before us to be printed. [More…]
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Notwithstanding that, the Australian Democrats will vote with the Government on this matter for the very reasons espoused by Senator Rae and which I stated yesterday. [More…]
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What this means in real terms is that not only will the people of South Australia, if they vote for the Labor Party, be opposed to economic development, including Roxby Downs, and filling the obligations for the energy needs of the world, but also they will be voting for somebody else as Leader of the Labor Party. [More…]
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I struck a lot of pensioners who said to me: ‘How can the Labor Party expect to get a vote for your candidates for the State Parliament when the candidate’- I am not going to name him because he is not in Parliament nowwas along yesterday and told all the pensioners that if he were elected he would see that our pensions were increased? [More…]
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The ministerial statement, which was the basis of the vote which came subsequently to the tabling of those reports, is a somewhat short and graphic document. [More…]
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It is unfortunate from the point of view of that particular legislative measure that there was no opportunity for a final vote on the Bill before the Parliament was dissolved, particularly as it had been indicated that there was very wide bipartisan support for the measure in question. [More…]
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Indeed, it is a distinction which has been accepted and articulated on numerous occasions by Senator Pulpick, whom I am delighted to see back in this chamber to vote on this issue. [More…]
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When will they next be broken, may well be the question that pensioners will pose when they ponder how they will cast their vote at the next election. [More…]
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The simple fact is that if one studies the results of the poll taken yesterday in the State seat of Torrens one will notice that there is a swing of upwards of 13 per cent to the Liberal candidate and a reduction in the Australian Labor Party vote of something like 16 percent. [More…]
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Before the quorum was called, I was saying that a poll conducted by the South Australian Institute of Technology yesterday showed that there had been a 16 per cent fall in the Labor vote in the seat of Torrens. [More…]
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Clearly, these were the points that were made: Of the intending anti-Labor voters, 83 per cent were concerned about the state of the local economy; 86 per cent were concerned - [More…]
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I ask honourable senators to guess how many people in that State poll were showing an intention to change their vote as a result of that publicity. [More…]
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It is pretty clear that this is the matter in that State which will urge people to vote for the Liberal Party on Saturday. [More…]
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An examination of any evidence which is available can only lead one to the conclusion that the lack of response by the business sector and by consumers indicates a massive vote of no confidence in the policies being pursued by this Government. [More…]
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A vote for the Corcoran Government on 15th September will add to this State’s bargaining power in vital forthcoming Federal/State talks about finance and taxes. [More…]
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Senator Young turned it down and would not vote for it. [More…]
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Again Senator Young did not vote for what was logically a genuine State request which in the old days - [More…]
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When it came to a vote some of the Liberal senators walked out of the Senate. [More…]
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But the only opportunity today for us to stand behind the Committee will arise when we vote on the motion that the Senate take note of the Minister’s statement. [More…]
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shall be entitled to have his name placed on or retained on any roll or to vote at any Senate election or House of Representatives election. [More…]
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In other words, they ought to lose their right to vote at Federal elections. [More…]
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In reply to Senator Cavanagh, the Minister, I believe quite unfairly, said: ‘But Senator, you would not vote against a statutory regulation which increased an amount of payment to a compensated employee ‘. [More…]
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Failing any such explanation, I propose to vote for the amendment moved by Senator Grimes. [More…]
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Today, more and more money and a greater part of the defence vote are being spent- and so it should be- on sophisticated equipment. [More…]
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Their offence had been to distribute leaflets reminding people of their constitutional rights not to vote or to vote by secret ballot. [More…]
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At that election he polled 6.6 per cent of the vote in Patersonsome 4250 votes- compared with 1.45 per cent for Mr William Ignatius O’Donnell, an independent candidate, 57.61 per cent for Mr Frank Lionel O ‘Keefe, the National Country Party candidate, and 34.28 per cent for Kerry Donald Scott, the Australian Labor Party candidate. [More…]
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Provided on the back of the newspaper was an elaborate how-to-vote chart which promoted Mr Baker as the candidate for the seat of Paterson and promoted the Australian Democrats candidates for the Senate election. [More…]
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That how-to-vote chart was headed on one side: How to vote Don Chipp and the Australian Democrats and make your second preference Labor’. [More…]
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On the other side it was headed: ‘How to vote Don Chipp and the Australian Democrats and make your second preference LiberalNCP.’ [More…]
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The willof the people shall be the basisof the authorityof government; this will shall be expressed in periodic and genuine elections which shall be by universal and equal sufferage and shall be held by secret vote or equivalent free voting procedures. ‘ [More…]
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Senators are elected periodically, by secret ballot, with universal franchise, and the quota-preferential methodof proportional representation ensures that the vote values within states are equal as nearly as can be. [More…]
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We, the undersigned citizensof Australia, therefore humbly pray that the Senate will fulfil the pledgeof a Member Stateof the United Nations and take steps to remove the compulsion from the Electoral Act in order to allow freedomof expression Tor everyone who has the right to vote for Senators. [More…]
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I point out that in the United States of America, as has been made apparent in the report of the Pike Committee, which is the House of Representatives Select Committee on Intelligence, the secret vote associated with security activities in the United States very substantially exceedsindeed, by a factor of five said the Pike Committee- what had been acknowledged publicly to be the size of the actual expenditure. [More…]
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We do not know in Australia to what extent, if at all, there is any such secret vote. [More…]
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We know that there is such a thing as a secret vote because Mr Justice Hope let it slip that there was. [More…]
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To approve the annual estimates for the intelligence community, including the secret vote, and to endorse forward financial plans in a form to be agreed on. [More…]
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Finally among this fairly random list of examples from the 1975 ‘Report to the President by the Commission on CIA Activities within the United States’, there is a fascinating illustration of funds under the CIA vote being used not for intelligence but for political purposes. [More…]
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I certainly would not vote for this motion, as an individual senator, on the basis that it would not achieve the results in accountability which I think ought to be achieved. [More…]
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Senator Wriedt referred to the United Nations vote which was taken in recent days. [More…]
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Thirty-five countries voted against that proposition, and there were 34 abstentions. [More…]
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We should note in our own national interests- this is what foreign policy is about- that many of the countries which voted for that motion are countries which are vital and crucial to our security. [More…]
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They still vote for the recognition of the Pol Pot regime, although they condemn, as we condemn, the horrendous nature of that regime. [More…]
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Yesterday, in reply to questions in this place relating to that, Senator Carrick, referred to the Australian vote on the matter of recognition. [More…]
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In this case, Australia voted to support the report of the Credentials Committee because the credentials of the delegation of democratic Kampuchea, which is a member state of the United Nations, had been found by the Committee to be in proper form. [More…]
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Our reluctance to vote for this motion arises as we believe that if any matter ever coming before the Senate needed a nonpartisan or a bipartisan approach, it would have been this very question that we are discussing today. [More…]
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The fact is that our ambassador was instructed to vote for the retention of the Pol Pot regime to represent Cambodia. [More…]
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The fact is that at the weekend the Foreign Minister and the Cabinet which Senator Knight supports instructed our ambassador to vote for the continuance of the Pol Pot regime to represent Kampuchea. [More…]
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I hasten to add that I will not score a political point off Senator Knight by saying that he supports the actions of the Pol Pot regime, but the very fact that he has supported the decision to vote that way means that he supported the continuation of the Pol Pot regime. [More…]
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Those who object are always those who go along and vote against something. [More…]
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The present boom on the stock market is a genuine and massive vote of confidence in the Government’s economic policies. [More…]
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displaying of’how to vote’ cards in voting cubicles at polling booths; [More…]
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Is the Minister also aware that the Soviet Union’s proposal has been sent to the 23 International Whaling Commission members for a postal vote by 17 October? [More…]
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The chairman of the International Whaling Commission had requested a vote on that amendment by International Whaling Commission members. [More…]
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That vote was to be lodged by 1 7 October. [More…]
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In keeping with the stated policy of this Government of opposition to whaling, both domestically and internationally, and through the medium of the International Whaling Commission, I can confirm for Senator Missen that the Australian delegate, Professor Ovington, lodged the Australian vote against the USSR proposal on 28 September 1979. [More…]
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displaying of ‘how to vote’ cards in voting cubicles at polling booths; [More…]
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The advertisements read: ‘Make your legislative council vote count’. [More…]
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Your vote for any party other than the Liberal or Labor Party may not be counted. [More…]
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The peculiar system of voting for the South Australian Legislative Council means that votes cast for any group other than the major parties may result in preferences not being distributed. [More…]
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What surveys have been done of the probable numbers of 1 8-20 year olds, migrants and Aboriginals who are eligible to vote but are not enrolled. [More…]
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1 ) Upon whose advice, and on what basis of logic or morality, did the Government’s representative in the United Nations vote to continue to recognise the Pol Pot regime as the legitimate Government of Kampuchea. [More…]
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In the court Mr Justice Smith found that the Labor candidate had been improperly denied votes by the tactics of the Liberal candidate, Mr Alan Ridge, who was then the Minister for Community Welfare. [More…]
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It is quite feasible to suggest that the vote of the black people could tip the balance at the next State election which is due early next year, because in a letter presented to the Court of Disputed Returns Mr Ridge stated, in part: [More…]
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He wanted them to be able to accept the responsibilities that are accepted by the European community, part of which is the right to cast a vote in elections and to know what one is voting for. [More…]
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It is an amendment to the Electoral Act and it will preclude many Aborigines from casting a vote in the next State election, on the grounds of illiteracy as much as anything. [More…]
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That is one provision that I object to, but there are other provisions relating to how-to-vote cards being accepted as an indication of the way a person wants to cast a vote and other things like that. [More…]
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I say now that very few egg producers in Australia would support or vote for the Party that I represent in this Parliament. [More…]
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As I said earlier, I am putting a case for all those poultry farmers all over Australia who would not vote for me or the Labor Party- people whom Senator Knight claims to represent and whom he is doing his best to throw on the scrap heap. [More…]
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If every one listed speaks for only half an hour- there are some lawyers on the list and I cannot conceive of their speaking for only half an hour- we are going to get to the second reading vote at 11.15 p.m. tonight. [More…]
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In either event, unless the Government can give a guarantee that that will not happen, I will vote against its particular proposal. [More…]
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It can pick and choose the right to vote in union elections and the right to nominate the position of an office bearer within a union. [More…]
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I suppose I could have demolished Senator Watson’s address with a simple interjection, ‘in the 1972-75 era when the Labor Government sought to enact an incomes and prices policy, did he vote yes in relation to the proposals that were put forward?’ [More…]
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If he voted no he has to live with the society to which he is objecting. [More…]
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I doubt whether very many of them even vote for my Party. [More…]
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That statement adds to my confusion, apprehension and disenchantment of this place as a forum for democratically elected senators to express a view verbally and in a vote. [More…]
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Presumably some of them would vote for the Labor Party- obliterating 42,400 working days and costing Sl.Sm lost wages. [More…]
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If, at the ballot, the members vote in favour of industrial action, settlement of the dispute could be unnecessarily delayed until such time as a further ballot results in favour of a resumption of work. [More…]
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Of 812 ballot papers distributed, 368 were returned and 299 voted in favour of a return to work. [More…]
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Of 69 ballot papers distributed, 60 were returned and 44 voted in favour of the proposal. [More…]
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A significant factor in this case was the union’s refusal to allow its members to vote on Commissioner Brown ‘s proposal for settlement of the dispute. [More…]
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The percentage of the union that elects the leaders is that percentage which the Government of which the honourable senator is a member decided in its legislation had to vote. [More…]
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I will vote for this Bill because the Government is of the opinion that it requires a number of these powers. [More…]
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The only regret I have is that in the closing stages he said that although he disagreed with the Bill he would vote for it. [More…]
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I am at a loss to understand how a man could so passionately voice his opposition to a Bill and then, in the last sentence, say that nevertheless he will vote for it. [More…]
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We had a situation in South Australia prior to the State election with the bus employees union where people went along to the depots, agitated for strike action and drove out of the depot with stickers on their cars asking for people to vote for the Tonkin Government. [More…]
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They would not even vote on the Budget while the man who is now the Prime Minister was out at Yarralumla organising the overthrow of the Whitlam Government. [More…]
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The Minister advised that our delegate had voted against that proposal. [More…]
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Is the Minister able to give the Senate any information as to the result of that vote? [More…]
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-My Department has been informed by the Secretary of the International Whaling Commission that the result of the vote on the proposed amendment by the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics was: Three in favour, 16 against and three abstentions. [More…]
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In these circumstances the charge would be paid by the Bureau, which will receive additional funds for this purpose within the appropriate aid vote, to ensure that the overall level of assistance to developing countries is not reduced. [More…]
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Just a few weeks ago, members of the Liberal Party voted against something in this parliamentary institution, but tonight, a few weeks later, they are supporting it totally and eulogising it. [More…]
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You must now vote differently in the Parliament from the way you voted some weeks ago ‘. [More…]
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But because of the practicality and pragmatism we will be obliged to vote with the Government and against the Opposition on this question. [More…]
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First, the Government appreciates the view that the Australian Democrats have expressed and understands that those honourable senators will vote with it on this matter. [More…]
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I intend to vote with the Government on this particular proposition, but I do so against my own desire. [More…]
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I do not want my brains splattered all over the electorate for having voted in any way other than that which I have just indicated. [More…]
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If I wanted the Senate to accept on its own vote the dissolution of this place, I would say that we could easily pension everyone off at a considerable rate a year for the rest of their lives. [More…]
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We would all vote for it. [More…]
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If we had the vote in this place, perhaps we could do it easily. [More…]
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I did not hear any of the honourable senators who now sit in government say that they would forego their pay when they went on strike in this chamber in 1 975 and would not vote on the Budget. [More…]
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I draw the attention of the Senate to that General Business motion which, because of our vote in the Senate today, will not be dealt with. [More…]
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within the appropriate aid vote, to ensure that the overall level of assistance . [More…]
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It is really very disappointing that the Minister presents a report describing a vote of $12m to this area and talks about it as if it is something of which the Government can be proud. [More…]
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At 11.30 a.m., Monday, P October, 1979, Mrs Alice Yeatman delivered to the Manager, Yarrabah, a petition containing a total of 417 signatures, which the Manager confirmed as containing at least 3S7 signatures which appear, beyond reasonable doubt to be those of Yarrabah residents, eligible to vote in Council elections. [More…]
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It should be noted that in Council elections in recent years, not all voters exercised their right to vote; the position being: [More…]
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We found on the petition some names of people who were not eligible to vote at all. [More…]
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My examination revealed that the sheets contain a total of four hundred and seventeen (417) signatures- three hundred and eighty-seven (387) appear beyond reasonable doubt to be those of Yarrabah residents eligible to vote in Council Elections. [More…]
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For the purpose of assessing the petition, it is worthy of note that the largest number of Yarrabah residents who have taken advantage of their right to vote at Council Elections in recent years was three hundred and forty (340) at the General Election on 16th January 1979. [More…]
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We saw what happened there and how members of the Government side obviously were dragooned to vote against something in which they believed fundamentally. [More…]
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No Senator shall reflect upon any Vote of the Senate, except for the purpose of moving that such Vote be rescinded. [More…]
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You are referring to a vote of the Senate - [More…]
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But I do indicate that it is desirable to avoid saying anything which reflects on a person or a vote of the Senate. [More…]
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But this morning he had an opportunity to vote on the motion asking us to express our grave concern. [More…]
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Did Senator Bonner vote on that motion according to his conscience? [More…]
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He voted to stop himself from voting. [More…]
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On the instruction of his political party he voted that the Senate be prevented from voting on the motion. [More…]
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We all came here this week but we were not even allowed to vote on the motion. [More…]
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I have certainly never been directed by my Party on any occasion as to how I should vote. [More…]
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They did not even pay honourable senators the courtesy of inviting them to vote on the suspension of Standing Order 68. [More…]
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While I am prepared to vote and work for those amendments which have been put forward to attempt to strengthen this piece of legislation, if they are not successful I will nevertheless give my support to the legislation. [More…]
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But as there will be only one vote, we will be placing ourselves on the side of the Government. [More…]
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Without an unequivocal assurance to this effect from the Attorney-General, the Human Rights Commission Bill had better not be passed, and I shall vote accordingly. [More…]
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The second criterion, as I remember what Mr Justice Kirby said, was that a Bill of rights was needed if politicians voted on issues and not according to party direction. [More…]
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I do not say this in order to make a point against Senator Puplick, but at the conclusion of his hour-long speech the other night he issued a rather historic admonition to the Senate- that it is the role and the responsibility of this Parliament to debate and vote on violations of human rights wherever they occur. [More…]
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On that very day, in the morning, he voted against this Parliament, this chamber, voting on the violation of the human rights of human beings in Timor. [More…]
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One wonders about the capacity of this chamber and of this Parliament to comply with Mr Justice Kirby ‘s criterion that politicians should vote on issues as they see them and not vote on party lines. [More…]
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The fact that they abstain is not taken as a negative vote when in reality they are all supposed to concur when major decisions are being taken. [More…]
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For example, women are not allowed to vote in Nigeria, Jordan and Kuwait. [More…]
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I am happy to proceed to a vote on the motion for the suspension of Standing Orders. [More…]
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This arises from our lack of success early this morning in the vote on the second of the two Bills, the [More…]
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It is a matter for great regret that the vote to reject the Racial Discrimination Amendment Bill was lost last night only by one vote, as a result of the indavertent non-appearance in the chamber, in time, of Senator Harradine. [More…]
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For that reason it is crucially important that this chamber vote for at least the small chance of preserving Mr Grassby ‘s effectiveness and the effectiveness of the Office of the Commissioner for Community Relations that would be involved in making the Commissioner a member of the Human Rights Commission. [More…]
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The Western Australian Minister for Health and Community Welfare, Mr Ridge, who holds the seat of Kimberley, has admitted in a Western Australian newspaper that the Liberal Party devised and executed a plan deliberately aimed at denying Aborigines in the Kimberleys an effective vote. [More…]
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For a Minister of the Crown to find it degrading to mix with Aborigines who are, after all, his voters and constituents seems to me to be related to the problems we were discussing yesterday on the racial discrimination and human rights legislation. [More…]
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The proposed amendments will at best create difficulties for Aborigines wishing to vote in State elections and at worst disenfranchise illiterate Aboriginals wishing to register a postal vote. [More…]
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He did not criticise that aspect, but he did mention Western Australia and possible legislation there in regard to elections and the right to vote. [More…]
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That principle was introduced by the Federal Government seven years ago, when Aboriginal people in the Northern Territory were given the right to vote. [More…]
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They had to apply to have their names placed on the electoral roll, but once their name was on the roll it was on the roll for keeps- it was there permanently- and they had to vote in elections. [More…]
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All of the Aboriginal people will be expected to vote, as are other people. [More…]
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We are dealing in this legislation with nothing other than an attempt by legislative dictate to weaken and destroy the AUS rather than allow student campuses throughout Australia to vote on the matter. [More…]
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I believe that Senator Carrick has enabled there to be a development from the original Bill, which I would have regarded as Draconian in the extreme, and which I think probably would have induced me to vote against it, to one which I am just not prepared to support. [More…]
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I do not propose to vote in favour of the Bill because whilst it contains many desirable features which are of a machinery kind, I think it is unnecessary for the Parliament to impose on the Council of the University requirements in relation to these areas, particularly when the Council has made it demonstrably clear that it is prepared to act and has spent a very large part of more than 12 months of Council meetings discussing the very issues which are being so cursorily and superficially discussed here tonight. [More…]
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I would only hope that as this debate proceeds he reconsiders his stated intention simply to abstain from the vote on this matter and in fact supports the Opposition amendment which, as Senator Tate has indicated, is directly aimed at those provisions of the two Bills which are concerned with student fees and organisations on the basis that for a variety of reasons they are quite inappropriate in legislation. [More…]
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I think an awful lot of cant is talked about conscientious objection to an organisation which is based simply on an objection to one or other activity in which that organisation might engage, one or other way that that organisation might spend its funds or one or other kind of resolution that that organisation might, by majority of vote, have adopted. [More…]
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Secondly, there is a new system of votes at the AUS councils whereby the voting strength of campus delegations is proportional to student numbers except that the half dozen smaller campuses have been upgraded to two votes instead of the nil or one vote they would have had under a perfectly proportional system. [More…]
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Never was such a motion moved, although ample democratic process is available on the campus should anyone have been inclined to do so, quite apart from any vote being taken involving a majority of students. [More…]
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The outcome of that series of votes, which took place in September this year, can be described only as representing a situation in which the tide has unequivocally turned. [More…]
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There is now a resurgence, for reasons I have explained, of confidence in the AUS, such that Monash University, Adelaide University, Griffith University in Queensland, Newcastle University and the Western Australian Institute of Technology all rejected secession motions in September of this year, and Melbourne University, which had previously seceded, returned to affiliation with AUS by a 65 per cent majority vote. [More…]
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The main substantive change in this particular Bill is the removal of the power of a casting vote from the Chief Justice where there is an equality of judges, an evenly divided court, in appeals from the Federal Court, from Territory Supreme Courts, or from the Family Court. [More…]
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Hitherto, in those situations where there has been an equal division of judges, the Chief Justice has had a casting vote, unlike the situation which has obtained in the State Supreme Courts, where appeals coming from those jurisdictions and resulting in an even division of opinion have resulted in the majority decision at the lower level- the State level- prevailing. [More…]
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Moreover, we would resist especially any notion that the language now to go on the statute book is to be taken as implying that judges should be appointed only on the basis of some collective or majority view having emerged, on there being in effect some kind of vote in which the Commonwealth has but one voice among others. [More…]
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It does not mean that there has to be a vote by which some sort of majority view is obtained. [More…]
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He knows perfectly well that if honourable senators vote for these Opposition amendments they will strongly induce State Ministers to support alterations in future. [More…]
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He does not escape from what he is trying to do by saying that he will not vote for the amendments. [More…]
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He is saying that he has to vote against the amendments although he believes the Opposition is right. [More…]
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If Senator Rae believes that the amendments put forward by the Opposition are correct we would expect him to vote for them as an added inducement to show the strength of the Committee’s opinion on this question to State Ministers at their next conference on the issue. [More…]
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When the time comes that he has the courage of his convictions to vote against his party then I will doff my hat to him. [More…]
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To what budget vote or appropriation did the Public Service Board charge the cost of the advertisement. [More…]
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by leave- Certain news reports this morning have stated that the Australian Democrats failed to vote on a clause of the Human Rights Commission Bill last evening. [More…]
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I listened to the debate in my room until seven minutes to 1 1 p.m. when it became clear that there would be no vote by the time of the scheduled adjournment. [More…]
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I deeply regret my absence in the circumstances of this vote. [More…]
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by leave- Any assertion by Senator Chipp, however gracefully put- I must acknowledge that he did speak very gracefully- that his failure to vote in the Committee of the Whole last night was in any way attributable to me is incorrect The assertions contained in the Press release which was issued today and which the honourable senator read to the Senate contains some inaccuracies. [More…]
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Senator Evans advised me today that he recalls telling Senator Chipp at about 10.30 last night in relation to the Human Rights Commission Bill- I am using Senator Evans’ words- ‘I do not think we can assume there will be no votes tonight’. [More…]
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The decision to sit beyond 1 1 p.m. was not finally taken by the Minister until very close to 11 p.m. Whilst there was no anticipation that there could be a close vote, two matters require emphasis. [More…]
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Firstly, one Australian Democrat vote last night- I think Senator Chipp said that there could have been only one Democrat vote because Senator Mason was sickwould not have affected the outcome of the division and, secondly, no honourable senator can properly blame any other honourable senator for his failure to vote in this place when this is occasioned by his going home to bed before the Senate adjourns. [More…]
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Some people have suggested that the Government has ignored the problems of the unemployed; that it has taken the cold political judgment that the unemployed are not the people who will vote for it in next year’s election anyway and that the people who will vote for it in next year’s election anyway are a selfish group of our society who have work and are prosperous. [More…]
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The honourable senator could quite easily have a button in his home which, when his leader’s finger went up he could press to register his vote, for all the influence he has on the affairs of this country at the present time. [More…]
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That is a matter which arises under the vote for Parliament. [More…]
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The question that Senator Rae raised may well be a question of whether that agreement is being honoured and whether we vote a payment to the Minister for Finance to make unexpected payments without stipulating that those payments can only be covered by the ordinary annual expenditure. [More…]
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The basis of the General Fund will be the moneys currently available to the Aboriginal Loans Commission, the Aboriginal Land Fund Commission and the Department’s enterprise vote. [More…]
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We are considering here a vote from the Parliament, an appropriation of $ 10m to maintain the office of the Auditor-General when the reports, having been prepared by that office, remain secret documents known only to the Minister for Primary Industry. [More…]
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So there will be a second opportunity for members of the Liberal Party, for members of the Country Party and for members of the Australian Democrats, who voted with the Government in the vote which has just taken place and abdicated not only all responsibility to review actions of the Government but also abdicated the right to know the facts upon which they could base such a review of actions of the Government. [More…]
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1) in this chamber last year, Senator Jessop and his colleague Senator Kilgariff- who will no doubt follow me in this debate- walked out of the chamber and would not vote. [More…]
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So I ask this question: Where is the authority for this payment and under which vote are funds appropriated? [More…]
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They should not come in here again and tell people that they are free agents and that they can vote according to their consciences, because it has been proven over and over again that they cannot. [More…]
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As my colleague the honourable member for Fremantle (Mr Dawkins) has indicated in the other place, such is the redistribution that it requires my party to gain more than 50 per cent of the votes in order to exceed the quota of two seats in Western Australia. [More…]
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I do not want to canvass that at this stage other than to say that it is a rather anomalous position that a party has to exceed 50 per cent of the vote in order to win more than two seats out of 1 1. [More…]
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But having said that, one can only hope that the electors in Western Australia will in fact give us more than 50 per cent of the vote so that we can win more than an even share of the seats in that State. [More…]
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The only other point I want to mention relates to the honourable senator’s concern that the Australian Labor Party has to get 50 per cent of the vote to win more than two seats. [More…]
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shall be entitled to have his name placed on or retained on any roll or to vote at any Senate election or House of Representatives election. [More…]
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The National Party would be able to muster the required 16.6 per cent of the total vote. [More…]
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-I refer the Minister representing the Minister for Foreign Affairs to an article in the Melbourne Age this morning which states that the United Nations General Assembly voted yesterday to reaffirm the right of the people of East Timor to self-determination and independence. [More…]
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In view of the fact that the vote was 62 to 3 1 , with 45 abstentions, can the Minister advise how Australia voted and the reason we voted as we did? [More…]
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Will Australia’s relations with Indonesia, and its attitude to the situation in East Timor, be changed in any way by yesterday’s vote at the United Nations? [More…]
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Always Aboriginal people have faced impediments to exercising effectively the right to vote. [More…]
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Even now under Commonwealth law and the law of most States Aborigines, though entitled to enrol and vote, are not compelled to do so as are other native-born or naturalised Australians. [More…]
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The Bill ‘s scope is further restricted to enrolment to vote. [More…]
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The absence of overt legislative discrimination, though a pre-requisite to equality of opportunity to vote, does not of itself guarantee equal opportunity. [More…]
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Justice Smith found that 96 people had been improperly deprived of their right to vote for Ernie Bridge and for that reason declared the election void- the winning margin having been only 93 votes. [More…]
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The objective was to prevent Aborigines from recording votes, or if that failed, from recording valid votes. [More…]
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In one instance, the Liberal scrutineer told the presiding officer that he had telephoned the returning officer, who had told him that ‘how to vote’ cards were not to be accepted as evidence of voting intentions. [More…]
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So discriminatory against Aborigines were these amendments that they were opposed in the Legislative Assembly not only by the Labor Opposition, but by half the Country Party, and a Liberal backbencher, and were defeated by the casting vote of the Liberal Speaker. [More…]
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Kay recommended changes to the Electoral Act aimed at eliminating or at least minimising malpractice pertaining to illiterate voters. [More…]
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Clause 5, States that an Aboriginal who is enrolled to vote in Commonwealth elections shall be entitled to enrol as an elector for Western Australian elections. [More…]
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If a free vote were allowed, I am certain that many would. [More…]
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That Aborigines should have the same opportunity to enrol and vote in State Elections as in Federal Elections. [More…]
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But the Government is absolutely committed to the idea that it is of great importance to Aboriginal people that they should be able to exercise their vote; [More…]
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All honourable senators who vote against this motion will align themselves with Mr Nixon in refusing to give the Senate information to which it is entitled. [More…]
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The original petition, which is a vote of no confidence in the council and which I referred to in this chamber about a week ago, will now be dealt with by the Queensland Government. [More…]
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We will not vote on the amendment. [More…]
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Nonetheless, the Opposition regards it as an amendment which is worth pursuing to a vote, even in the absence of that regrettably missing support from Senator Missen. [More…]
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The Opposition will resist this Bill and vote against it at every stage. [More…]
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There comes the occasion when, for a particular reason, a given member may desire to have recorded very clearly how the vote went, particularly as it concerns him. [More…]
- An example of the selective criteria which are applied her is that the council of a university shall not authorise a students representative council to expend money unless that council is elected by one quarter of the students entitled to vote. [More…]